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Quote from: Helena Yu on April 16, 2023, 05:04:34 AM

Football isn't the only a way to attract people to gamble, you forget there are many sports don't have strict rule about gambling and they're free to open any casino who want to rent a space in their sports. With this new announcement, I don't think an old gambler will stop gamble, they will keep gamble since their country allow to gamble and there's no problem for them.

True that, gambling had already set its foothold on every corner of the world. This action stated by @OP won't have any effect on how gambling spreads since gambling platform is scattered everywhere. There are lots of gambling advertisements on mobile apps and websites even minors and toddlers are being reached by these gambling advertisements. Unless the total banned of advertisements on all platforms is done, I don't think this small prevention stated by @OP will have an effect on gambling adoption.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on April 16, 2023, 05:04:34 AM

Football isn't the only a way to attract people to gamble, you forget there are many sports don't have strict rule about gambling and they're free to open any casino who want to rent a space in their sports. With this new announcement, I don't think an old gambler will stop gamble, they will keep gamble since their country allow to gamble and there's no problem for them.

Many other sports attract people to gamble and because of this, the casinos provide those sports bets. The casino knows how to attract people to gamble in their casino. And this is what makes casinos often provide promotions related to ongoing sporting events and gamblers very like that because they can bet for the team or player they like. Old gamblers will not stop because they are used to gambling and already have a subscription place to gamble.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

For me, I don't see any way whereby removing gambling sponsors from the front of shirts should have anyway to either increase or decrease the total number of people who gambles all around the world, because apart from Premier League sponsorships, these gambling casino has also got other ways through which they create awareness to people, of which if premier league seems to stop promoting their businesses, all they will need to do is channel their resources to other ways of creating awareness, such as Google ads, social media & online forum promotions, such as "bitcointalk signature campaign".

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Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

I don't even think that what the Premier League management is doing is aimed at reducing the number of people who gamble. maybe, the league management doesn't want that casino sponsored club to put their logo on the front jersey. I'm sure the reasons are very diverse and varied, but it doesn't aim to reduce gamblers. after all, even if the club doesn't put the casino's name logo on the players' jerseys, we will still gamble. so, it will be very inefficient with what the Premier League management is doing.

Well, we agree that it will not have an impact on reducing the number of gambling addicts. and I'm sure the management of the Premier League knows very well. even if so, actually the gambling sponsors could outsmart it in various ways, for sure they will always find a way. after all, at this time in the digital era. Gambling sponsors can carry out promotions on social media, web ads, influencers, or use the services of celebrities who have big names.

One more thing related to the problem of gambling addiction, every government that legalizes gambling should provide an understanding of being a responsible gambler, they can make a site related to that, even if necessary, every casino must have guidelines to provide understanding to gamblers.

During my life I realized that nothing is done in the interests of ordinary people and there are more compelling reasons for this or that innovation or decision people who have at least some power.

As I understand the real reason for banning gambling advertising on T-shirts in the premier league is that someone could not agree on the money. I'm sure that after a while everything will go back to normal.

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There is this exchange that I'm always seeing in the front t-shirt of fighters and if that will be removed from them, I don't think that the number of its users will decrease.
They're after the new customers that they're advertising in. So, if the logo is removed from these teams, I don't think that there will be lesser gamblers that will continue to gamble from these certain casinos.
Coming up with another way to get some great exposure from these sporting events might be patronized by these companies as soon as that rule has been applied.

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Quote from: Russlenat on April 14, 2023, 04:39:28 PM

Quote from: ryzaadit on April 13, 2023, 03:11:50 PM

Not gonna affect people.

People still gonna gamble, especially in "Football" which generated the most revenue on gambling. As you can see, even in the World Cup on QATAR with most religions countries.

Gambling revenue comparing 2018 world cup has just increase 13% without any betting sponsor.

I don’t see what OP has shared will take an effect to gamblers. As much as there is good team to bet, gamblers will never stop from gambling, regardless if there is no betting sponsor. Most particularly for an event like football, everyone is eyeing on it, so expect that the more viewers will pay to watch it, the bigger amount of gamblers will be more visible.

You probably haven't understood the whole thread, it's not about gamblers making bets on sports events or not, but it's about the Premier League banning casinos from being on the front of the t-shirts of players in the matches even if they are official sponsors or partners, and the question of this thread is that whether this will make any effect in decreasing the number of gamblers.

In my opinion, that will probably stop any new gamblers from getting involved with casinos that were being promoted by the teams in matches but there will probably be other ways for the clubs to promote their sponsors since they get paid for that.

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Quote from: Helena Yu on April 16, 2023, 05:04:34 AM

Football isn't the only a way to attract people to gamble, you forget there are many sports don't have strict rule about gambling and they're free to open any casino who want to rent a space in their sports. With this new announcement, I don't think an old gambler will stop gamble, they will keep gamble since their country allow to gamble and there's no problem for them.

Yes even though they already advertised or they are going to advertise that people needed to stop gambling still people will do it, there's no solution to gambling addiction we only have our own self discipline in order for us to stop this addiction as early as we could. We need to learn that even how much effort does government or some sectors try to end this gambling site still the decision is in gamblers hands.

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Football isn't the only a way to attract people to gamble, you forget there are many sports don't have strict rule about gambling and they're free to open any casino who want to rent a space in their sports. With this new announcement, I don't think an old gambler will stop gamble, they will keep gamble since their country allow to gamble and there's no problem for them.

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Quote from: AmoreJaz on April 15, 2023, 02:52:52 PM

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

that is very true. there are so many marketing options these days. social media alone can be a very good avenue to promote a site. a lot of people are now into these media platforms. you can't stop people from using these channels so they will always see something promoted even when the government is limiting it in some medium of advertising.
so they may be limiting the exposure of gambling site to some extent, but these sites will have other modes of advertising. and people these days have net access. unless the govt will also ban some sites under their jurisdiction.

any effort made to stop gambling site advertising will not be able to reduce the number of increase or decrease in gamblers but there will always be gambling advertisements through other media that people out there can see more often.
yes, it is indeed possible for this plan to keep gambling away from children because football is a favorite sport, almost all ages like this sport, so it provides regulations limiting fish on soccer team shirts. but unfortunately gambling ads can still be seen by children on Google ads and other social media.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

I don't think this going to have a huge impact on the sports betting industry. First of all if the bookmakers have the money to use on marketing campaigns and advertising, then just banning them from the premier league will let them switch to other leagues or other form of advertising. The ban is not going to remove the existing customers and will likely not result in a short term impact. There are so many different ways the bookmakers could spread their company name and promotions, especially in social media there is almost no limits these days. The question will also be who is going to pick up all the free advertising space that becomes avalaible now. There will be a lot of companies who would like to get the exposure from premier league, but the gambling industry could afford to pay a lot of money for those advertisings. Let's see if other countries are going to do the same and if this is going to have a lot of impact.

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Quote from: Reatim on April 15, 2023, 10:57:17 PM

good catch there mate , though front print is important but we know that Camera Angle nowadays is 360 degrees meaning even in the armpit still the advertisement is visible so there is no really sense this at all.
and talking about premier league? all the biggest banners are all over the place , adding those tv advertisement .
maybe they are just cleaning their hands but gambling and sports are always go together and this is all about money.

Advertisements, promotions, sponsorships are always attached to a team or sports match because so far, a sports match is one match that is always of interest to many people to watch, even almost all people in this world have their own preferences in every existing sporting event.
It's only natural that advertising has succeeded in getting enthusiasm from many people because in advertising a match, the implementing team will do many things to get more viewers.
It is true that sports and betting are two different options, but they always go hand in hand where every sports match there must be a bet behind it.
Betting in sports cannot be stopped or limited because it has a large enough money circulation, even greater than what is generated in the sporting event.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble?

I don't even think if it will be successfully the number of people who gamble. To be honest gambling was legal in english. I think that we shall try to search which the main problem that was triggering EPL to implement such rules. EPL was not fully removing gambling from the advertisement or sponsorship.

Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

If you are reading the whole of the article and then you may be getting points if EPL will be just only removing advertisements for the front of shirt. EPL is fully explaining if the club is still able to accept sponsorship from the gambling platform as long as it will be in a different area. I think that this is not greatly affecting the gambling site. It will always remaing the same at this moment or even until the regulation will be commenced.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

It may, the advertising campaign generally targets those gamblers who may cease playing for the time being and this advertising is more to trigger them to gamble again but this is a very small portion because the gambling industry uses a lot of media platforms to promote their platform, this is more on the principle of the organizers than trying to reach a goal, other sports may adopt it but as long as other platforms allow advertising of gambling platform the reduction will not be dramatic.

This study was done three years ago but it's still relevant
Understanding how consumers engaged with gambling advertising in

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What we learnt
This research reinforces what we already knew – that gambling advertising and marketing activity has a wide reach, encompassing existing gamblers but also lapsed/non-gamblers who may be encouraged to start or restart gambling.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

I think the keyword here will be "front" of their match day shirts. There is nothing about the back or side of the shirt. I am sure that the sponsers will find a work-around or a loophole of sorts to smear their logos on. Reducing promotions of ANYTHING is a good thing for players because we as the viewers, came to watch the players and watch them play. We did not pay for tickets to watch advertisements 24/7. But as I said, its unrealistic that there will be no more gambling or other advertisements, they will just find different ways to show them.

good catch there mate , though front print is important but we know that Camera Angle nowadays is 360 degrees meaning even in the armpit still the advertisement is visible so there is no really sense this at all.
and talking about premier league? all the biggest banners are all over the place , adding those tv advertisement .
maybe they are just cleaning their hands but gambling and sports are always go together and this is all about money.

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Of course they will find some other sport to promote from, even if all sports are banned, there will be something else. There is always platform available to promote, as long you pay the right price.

Indian premier league is also filled with fantasy league garbage, it's not exactly gambling but I'd consider it pretty close to it. I expect similar development for it as well.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 15, 2023, 02:38:39 PM

Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

Probably this is their first big step to reduce the exposure of gambling on their sports, this can still help but not big enough to prevent younger people to get information about the gambling site being advertised. There's still a big factor that celebrities are endorsing a crypto gambling site, their influence are really a big help to a casino site but again, its not that good especially if their supporter is still a minor.

This is why most of the celebrities are being sued because of their advertisements, in my country there’s a lot of issues with celebrities endorsing a fake site, those who get victim from this are now suing that endorser and this can also happen to crypto gambling. Removing the advertisements on their uniform is still a big help, we can expect more updates from that regulations as they continue to fight the increasing number of gamblers, maybe they will fully ban this type of advertisement in the future.

Just for money the celebrities getting involved into unprofessional activities will come to an end. However this is going to be effective and it won't give immediate result. The first step is taken by the premier league and maybe other tournaments and sports too can follow it. At the same time it is also necessary to educate people about gambling and how it can be done being on the safer side. Earlier Moeen Ali based on his religious belief had an agreement with the team that he won't have any liquor company ads on his t-shirt. It could've given him the inner satisfaction and peace. Maybe more players will feel the goodness.

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Quote from: crzy on April 15, 2023, 04:26:52 PM

Quote from: madnessteat on April 15, 2023, 02:38:39 PM

Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

Probably this is their first big step to reduce the exposure of gambling on their sports, this can still help but not big enough to prevent younger people to get information about the gambling site being advertised. There's still a big factor that celebrities are endorsing a crypto gambling site, their influence are really a big help to a casino site but again, its not that good especially if their supporter is still a minor.

This is why most of the celebrities are being sued because of their advertisements, in my country there’s a lot of issues with celebrities endorsing a fake site, those who get victim from this are now suing that endorser and this can also happen to crypto gambling. Removing the advertisements on their uniform is still a big help, we can expect more updates from that regulations as they continue to fight the increasing number of gamblers, maybe they will fully ban this type of advertisement in the future.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 15, 2023, 02:38:39 PM

Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

Probably this is their first big step to reduce the exposure of gambling on their sports, this can still help but not big enough to prevent younger people to get information about the gambling site being advertised. There's still a big factor that celebrities are endorsing a crypto gambling site, their influence are really a big help to a casino site but again, its not that good especially if their supporter is still a minor.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 15, 2023, 02:38:39 PM

Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

I don't even think that what the Premier League management is doing is aimed at reducing the number of people who gamble. maybe, the league management doesn't want that casino sponsored club to put their logo on the front jersey. I'm sure the reasons are very diverse and varied, but it doesn't aim to reduce gamblers. after all, even if the club doesn't put the casino's name logo on the players' jerseys, we will still gamble. so, it will be very inefficient with what the Premier League management is doing.

Well, we agree that it will not have an impact on reducing the number of gambling addicts. and I'm sure the management of the Premier League knows very well. even if so, actually the gambling sponsors could outsmart it in various ways, for sure they will always find a way. after all, at this time in the digital era. Gambling sponsors can carry out promotions on social media, web ads, influencers, or use the services of celebrities who have big names.

One more thing related to the problem of gambling addiction, every government that legalizes gambling should provide an understanding of being a responsible gambler, they can make a site related to that, even if necessary, every casino must have guidelines to provide understanding to gamblers.

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Quote from: madnessteat on April 15, 2023, 02:38:39 PM

Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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Personally, I don't think it will have the effect of reducing the number of gambling addicts or people who play gambling for fun, because the money that was spent on gambling advertising in the Premier League will be spent in another area and I can assume that it will most likely be spent on Internet advertising. We all know how many celebrities advertise gambling. I think there will be more of them soon.

^So after all, it depends on us how to set our self-control.
We should be avoiding to have more exposure that will trigger that lead to a gambling addiction which can help reduce the urge to gamble. This may mean staying away from casinos or avoiding websites related to gambling if you cannot control yourself.
Using social media for online advertising with influencers and celebrities.

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