Can this be effective against the increasing numbers of gamblers? - page 7.

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Quote from: bitbollo on April 14, 2023, 02:17:46 PM

well, amount of gamblers is not an issue. this is enough to avoid pathological people to join? I don't think ....
Also because gambling in itself is not dangerous it is simply an activity like many others.
I believe that the "real problem" arises when people at risk of addiction start to bet like minors or people who cannot understand the danger of risk higher amount of cash.

You can barely see those logos on the uniform of the players so this might not be effective.
If they really want to decrease number of new comers going into gambling, then banned any gambling advertisements because this is their best way to attract players. Removing a logo can help might not be effective, many will still try a site because they are curious about it and many want’s to have some income as well with their bets.

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Quote from: klidex on April 14, 2023, 04:07:31 PM

Quote from: virasisog on April 14, 2023, 12:25:42 PM

I think it will not affect most of gamblers because it doesn't affect the game as well as their bets.
I guess it will be better if they will switch to a more effective strategy if their goal is to reduce the number of gamblers.
We all know that gamblers will always find ways to gamble and removing sponsor brands will not hinder them to enjoy sports betting.
Gambling still exists freely so there's no sense in removing brand logos.

I agree with your statement that when advertising through sponsorship on soccer team shirts is removed, it will not have any effect on increasing or decreasing the number of gamblers but only reducing gamblers from becoming more addicted to betting.
In fact, in this case I am still a little doubtful whether the regulation will actually be applied, even though it has been a long time ago when football teams were sponsored by any gambling for mutual benefit.

For sure it would be revoked or would really be removed later on considering that they would really be looking for its benefit rather than on blocking or prohibiting it out without even having the assurance that it could really be that lessening up the number of possible gamblers if they would tend to removed it so.This is why it would really be that understandable if decisions would really be having that u-turn but
if this one turns out to be finalized then it would be understandable that advertisement and sponsorships would definitely be going into other sport.
There's no way on these things to be stopped considering that this is one of the most effective way when it comes to advertisement or simply with marketing.

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Quote from: virasisog on April 14, 2023, 12:25:42 PM

I think it will not affect most of gamblers because it doesn't affect the game as well as their bets.
I guess it will be better if they will switch to a more effective strategy if their goal is to reduce the number of gamblers.
We all know that gamblers will always find ways to gamble and removing sponsor brands will not hinder them to enjoy sports betting.
Gambling still exists freely so there's no sense in removing brand logos.

I agree with your statement that when advertising through sponsorship on soccer team shirts is removed, it will not have any effect on increasing or decreasing the number of gamblers but only reducing gamblers from becoming more addicted to betting.
In fact, in this case I am still a little doubtful whether the regulation will actually be applied, even though it has been a long time ago when football teams were sponsored by any gambling for mutual benefit.

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It will increase the number of gamblers into the competition due to the premium leagues. Gambling is all the time favourite one to the gamblers, So the gamblers always target on the gambling. The sports betting increases the gamblers to the gambling websites daily, even though their are huge offline gambling was their. Gambling people do gambling on all the sports based betting. The football is all the time available game, so the betting on the football are ever green concept.The effect of sports on the gambling was keep on alive one, people with good knowledge in the sports will earn some good money using the gambling. Some people not know about this one and wasting their sports knowledge only to argue with their friends and their is no use by that arguments.

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well, amount of gamblers is not an issue. this is enough to avoid pathological people to join? I don't think ....
Also because gambling in itself is not dangerous it is simply an activity like many others.
I believe that the "real problem" arises when people at risk of addiction start to bet like minors or people who cannot understand the danger of risk higher amount of cash.

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There are no proof that the reduction in marketing will reduce gambling, because they promote it on lots of other platforms. The reduction in gamblers should not be needed, if responsible gambling were promoted.

I see a lot of gambling sites are now advertising with a warning that gambling might be addictive and that they are supporting responsible gambling. I think they realize that gambling addiction are tainting their reputation and they want to prevent that. Wink

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

If only to reduce the type of gambling promotion, it still makes sense especially to prevent teenagers from gambling. but to reduce the number of people who gamble, it seems something that will be a long debate. why, because, we are no strangers to gambling, in fact there are many media that can be a place of promotion for gambling. for example, what we most often encounter related to gambling promos is on the internet. whether it's from site advertisements, applications, social media, YouTube, everything can be a promotional tool for casino business people.

So, the question is, is what the Premier League management is doing a good idea or solution, of course not at all. after all, they just said "voluntarily" well, is this obligatory. if we refer to the keyword "voluntary" it means, can be followed or not. one more thing, i agree with what @goldkingcoiner said. that is, the clubs sponsored by the casino, can put the casino's name behind the back, or wherever it is, except for the front.

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I think it will not affect most of gamblers because it doesn't affect the game as well as their bets.
I guess it will be better if they will switch to a more effective strategy if their goal is to reduce the number of gamblers.
We all know that gamblers will always find ways to gamble and removing sponsor brands will not hinder them to enjoy sports betting.
Gambling still exists freely so there's no sense in removing brand logos.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

Gambling activity in the region is already to the point that it can be called "a big thing" there. Therefore, any kind of prohibited gambling promotions won't have any effect at all on reducing the number of gamblers. These people are already used to doing sports betting.

The Premier league just agreed to remove any kinds of promotions on the matchday shirts but still "tied up" to the gambling sponsors.

If the purpose is to reduce the number of gamblers then make sports betting there illegal lol. But that won't happen.

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There are rumours that it is only in front, meaning they can still put it in the back, so there are still promotions, but it is not that visible to the camera when closed up. But whatever it is, there are still a lot of leagues or sports that they can advertise. Also, gambling is really known right now, online or offline. Even without advertising it in sports, only in social media or through promoters, people will hear about it and gamble if they want to.

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How it's make sense removing casino brand in front of the player's jersey will reduce number of gamblers? you need to use your logic.

Let's say I know gambling because I see the casino brand of a player jersey and I keep gambling until now, then I didn't see the casino brand in front of the player's jersey now, but the casino which I play is still run and become more trusted than was I knew it, will I stop gambling? nope.

The casino is still trusted, nothing to worry.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

gambling is one of the freedoms of every person that can be exercised freely by anyone and if you only remove sponsorship from soccer players' shirts, I don't think that will stop gamblers from betting or reduce people from being involved in gambling.
from several cases such as the state prohibiting all forms of gambling but people in that country can still gamble through online gambling. so that if you only remove sponsorship on soccer player shirts you will never be able to reduce the gambling population.

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Quote from: Pierre 2 on April 14, 2023, 07:15:11 AM

I think gamblers wouldn't bother a lot with uniform brandings. Yeah when you put a brand right in front of your uniform its lot more visible. Especially on tv, only thing you see in high definition is like brand in front of when cameras zoom in. Anyways I don't think it will stop people from gambling. It may definitely decrease popularity of gambling among kids. Kids love to watch football here and United Kingdom I am sure. If they see less amount of ads of casinos it may be effective.

There's really have an impact on team jersey advertisement since it can be seen by global audience world wide. But we are talking about gambling anything about sports there's gambling activities attached on it, so whatever the league do regarding on banning gambling advertisement they cannot stop fans to gamble because this add up the excitement while watching the result.

Sportsbetting is so famous so even if they stop advertising this, it gain root already on the industry so expect if there's big game or playoffs takes place.

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I think gamblers wouldn't bother a lot with uniform brandings. Yeah when you put a brand right in front of your uniform its lot more visible. Especially on tv, only thing you see in high definition is like brand in front of when cameras zoom in. Anyways I don't think it will stop people from gambling. It may definitely decrease popularity of gambling among kids. Kids love to watch football here and United Kingdom I am sure. If they see less amount of ads of casinos it may be effective.

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That move (hiding sponsors) isnt going to help at all. For example take a look on a smoking industry. In some countries smoking ads are prohibited. In some countries, at shops/at the cash desks, cigarette both are covered by opaque screens, people still buy them. Cigarette packs have pictures of lung cancer and other diseases - people still buy them. People know that smoking habit is bad - they continue to smoke. Why people think that hiding gambling logos will decrease number of gamblers then?

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Quote from: Frankolala on April 14, 2023, 04:28:38 AM

If this will help reduce the number of underage involving in gambling activities, therefore, i will say that it is a nice initiative by EPL
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The Premier League is one of the most popular football leagues in the world and without any doubt everything they promote has a wide audience and a great influence. Obviously, someone from the institutions dealing with the problem of gambling addiction presented the data on the basis of which such a decision was made, but one should not think that the clubs will just give up that money - because gambling advertising will continue to be on their sleeves. Less visible, but still visible.

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It has previously been reported that clubs will still be permitted to use gambling companies for sleeve sponsorship deals as a compromise.

The source is the link from OP.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

I also read this news yesterday, it seems to have started before now, only a few clubs in the EPL that are not complying yet, so the grace of your quoted time is now agreed upon. Personally, I don't see how this would stop or regulate gambling, even the stadium that hosts the players would still be displaying/advertising companies in which casinos/sportsbooks would still be among them.

It's just a means to reduce the earning of some clubs, nothing serious could influence the number of gamblers in society. Those companies are only advertising so that people will prefer them, not that they are newly creating gamblers in most cases as this makes them viewed.

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Quote from: ultrloa on April 13, 2023, 04:24:21 PM

Nope its not, people will gamble even if they would not see those adds on their shirts since as long as they can see a opportunity to place a bet on their favorite team and there's a platform exist where they can do that they continue to gamble. And besides there are so many ways gambling sites advertise so for sure they could reach up to more bigger audiences and can influence people to gamble especially when crucial games coming on the league.

Gambling is indeed like the culture of humanity. It has been in existence for a long time it is as old as man. It might be impossible to regulate its spread. But this policy will limit the rate of the spread of gambling because promotion helps to attract gamblers to some gambling platforms. It will also hurt the finance of many clubs because some of them rely on these endorsement deals to run the club. The government will also lose some tax revenue because the income from both the clubs and gambling firms will reduce. The government is claiming it wants to reduce gambling addiction in the country. Let's see how it will work and the level of impact.

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Quote from: Bananington on April 13, 2023, 02:56:23 PM

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The Premier League have confirmed clubs have voluntarily agreed to remove gambling sponsors from the front of their matchday shirts from the start of the 2025/26 season.

This is a move to try to reduce promotion of gambling in the premier league with it's increasing audience, do you think it can successfully reduce the number of people who gamble? What do you think? Will these gambling platforms not just move to other sports, do you think other sports that wear their sponsors name in England will adopt this new development in the premier league?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/premier-league-clubs-to-remove-gambling-sponsors-from-front-of-shirts/ar-AA19Ogeu

I don't think it has any influence on the adoption of gambling, in this case only a small part can be obtained as the popularity of the gambling platform from sponsoring and storing their names on the jerseys of the players I think it is not very effective because it can still do advertising in other sectors besides in the clothes of the players but still within the scope of the English premier league.
The rules are clear only regarding the name of the gambling platform in the shirt being banned, that doesn't mean banning teams from accepting sponsorship of gambling there are still many ways to advertise in this league, and I don't think it should move because it's not a complete ban.

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Not that much in my opinion. It might probably lessen the exposure of the gambling site but the number of gamblers won't reduce that much after all they already know the gambling sites on where are they going to play. Not because they remove the name in the game or whenever in the event, doesn't mean people will stop playing gambling or place bet on that certain sport.

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