Can we Manipulate Bitcoin price? - page 55.

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Quote from: betlord90 on September 27, 2016, 04:31:53 PM

Quote from: amacar2 on September 27, 2016, 03:37:26 PM

Bitcoin price has been or being manipulated many times in past and i think will continue to get manipulated until it gains very high marketcap just like other precious metals and assets.

Yes full of manipulated because they to get high volume so that they manipulate bitcoin price. But its good to us because as we can see the bitcoin price now its very stable and can earn it if bitcoin move the price down then after it going up again. We trader are get profit.

Until the price is not manipulated I don't expect serous investors to step in and buy bitcoins. They will risk their money if someone can dump their bitcoins and crash the price.
So yest the manipulation itself is not good for bitcoin.

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Quote from: amacar2 on September 27, 2016, 03:37:26 PM

Bitcoin price has been or being manipulated many times in past and i think will continue to get manipulated until it gains very high marketcap just like other precious metals and assets.

Yes full of manipulated because they to get high volume so that they manipulate bitcoin price. But its good to us because as we can see the bitcoin price now its very stable and can earn it if bitcoin move the price down then after it going up again. We trader are get profit.

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Quote from: Fraxinus on September 27, 2016, 03:26:10 PM

Quote from: wibuindon on September 27, 2016, 03:22:22 PM

I think we can manipulate bitcoin price, but we must to find users which have big amounts of bitcoin.

That's the only way BTC price can be manipulated,by many people with huge amounts of BTC,that's when the price can be risen really quick

Manipulating bitcoin prices may occur within an exchange but worldwide getting it done is not that much easier for an individual person or even for group of peoples.

You must need at least 2 billion USD (when considering bitcoin's market cap of 10 bitcoin USD ) or equivalent bitcoins for a sustained manipulation otherwise a pump may not last for two days too. There is no meaning in short-term manipulation other than an immediate dump.

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Bitcoin price has been or being manipulated many times in past and i think will continue to get manipulated until it gains very high marketcap just like other precious metals and assets.

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Quote from: wibuindon on September 27, 2016, 03:22:22 PM

I think we can manipulate bitcoin price, but we must to find users which have big amounts of bitcoin.

That's the only way BTC price can be manipulated,by many people with huge amounts of BTC,that's when the price can be risen really quick

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I think we can manipulate bitcoin price, but we must to find users which have big amounts of bitcoin.

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I think "Whale" player or people who have many bitcoins can manipulate bitcoin price. They can easily dump and pump to manipulate the price of bitcoin. But in the end the price will back to normal.

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Quote from: Ayers on September 27, 2016, 01:26:11 PM

Quote from: Ybalevia on September 21, 2016, 09:51:07 AM

Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.

how can it drop if everyone hold? there would be no more buyers because no one is selling, so it's actually force the price to increase not dropping

Don't listen to spammers and account farmers. That dude is just taking nonsense.

People hodling their coins for a certain period of time means that there are less coins in circulation, and thus the price will experience a steady increase since there will be more demand.

If all coins make their way to the market, then the massive flood of coins will make the price tank harder than ever before.

Keep hodling!

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Quote from: Ybalevia on September 21, 2016, 09:51:07 AM

Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.

how can it drop if everyone hold? there would be no more buyers because no one is selling, so it's actually force the price to increase not dropping

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Quote from: Ybalevia on September 21, 2016, 09:51:07 AM

Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.

You can only manipulate the bitcoin price for the short term. The long term price is determined by development and adoption.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 21, 2016, 06:23:49 AM

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity.

Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.

Well yeah right the price of bitcooin is always depends in the demand and supply the more people who are selling their bitcoin the more the price will decrease or even one person if he or she are holding a lots of bitcoin he can change the value of bitcoin buying bitcoin can change the price into high value and selling bitcoin can change the value below the present price.

As soon as the price decrease after that BTC10,000 dumping scene, the price will be decrease resulting for bitcoin users that waits for a low price to have some more.

And the result? It will bounce back again and will build the correction price.

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Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.

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Quote from: crairezx20 on September 21, 2016, 07:43:53 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on September 21, 2016, 07:38:06 AM

Quote from: dunfida on September 21, 2016, 06:23:49 AM

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity.

Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.

Well yeah right the price of bitcooin is always depends in the demand and supply the more people who are selling their bitcoin the more the price will decrease or even one person if he or she are holding a lots of bitcoin he can change the value of bitcoin buying bitcoin can change the price into high value and selling bitcoin can change the value below the present price.

That though will take a lot of risk. If I am the one holding a lot of bitcoin I will have a question to myself. What if suddenly it went up while I sold it all out. It will be a waste of bitcoin and capital. So the proper would be talking to other whales and do it simultaneously.

that's why you won't ever be able to predict, unless you just sold part of 'a lot', instead of all.
if you sell your bitcoin, unless you are urgently in need of that, it would be lead you to jelly. you should balance the bitcoin anr the fiat to get the bitcoin stronger, after all the bitcoin is valued because of fiat.

Whales will be holding and if they will manipulate the price that is just a temporary fall back so that they can buy cheap bitcoin when panic selling will happen, that is their strategy and they will not let this bitcoin die because they are continually making money on it.

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Quote from: danherbias07 on September 21, 2016, 09:11:17 AM

Quote from: crairezx20 on September 21, 2016, 07:43:53 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on September 21, 2016, 07:38:06 AM

Quote from: dunfida on September 21, 2016, 06:23:49 AM

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity.

Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.

Well yeah right the price of bitcooin is always depends in the demand and supply the more people who are selling their bitcoin the more the price will decrease or even one person if he or she are holding a lots of bitcoin he can change the value of bitcoin buying bitcoin can change the price into high value and selling bitcoin can change the value below the present price.

That though will take a lot of risk. If I am the one holding a lot of bitcoin I will have a question to myself. What if suddenly it went up while I sold it all out. It will be a waste of bitcoin and capital. So the proper would be talking to other whales and do it simultaneously.

that's why you won't ever be able to predict, unless you just sold part of 'a lot', instead of all.
if you sell your bitcoin, unless you are urgently in need of that, it would be lead you to jelly. you should balance the bitcoin anr the fiat to get the bitcoin stronger, after all the bitcoin is valued because of fiat.

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Quote from: crairezx20 on September 21, 2016, 07:43:53 AM

Quote from: chaser15 on September 21, 2016, 07:38:06 AM

Quote from: dunfida on September 21, 2016, 06:23:49 AM

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity.

Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.

Well yeah right the price of bitcooin is always depends in the demand and supply the more people who are selling their bitcoin the more the price will decrease or even one person if he or she are holding a lots of bitcoin he can change the value of bitcoin buying bitcoin can change the price into high value and selling bitcoin can change the value below the present price.

That though will take a lot of risk. If I am the one holding a lot of bitcoin I will have a question to myself. What if suddenly it went up while I sold it all out. It will be a waste of bitcoin and capital. So the proper would be talking to other whales and do it simultaneously.

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Quote from: chaser15 on September 21, 2016, 07:38:06 AM

Quote from: dunfida on September 21, 2016, 06:23:49 AM

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity.

Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.

Well yeah right the price of bitcooin is always depends in the demand and supply the more people who are selling their bitcoin the more the price will decrease or even one person if he or she are holding a lots of bitcoin he can change the value of bitcoin buying bitcoin can change the price into high value and selling bitcoin can change the value below the present price.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 21, 2016, 06:23:49 AM

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity.

Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.

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It is too hard to manipulate the bitcoin price
you need a lot of money to do that and I'm not sure it will be a success.

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Quote from: dunfida on September 21, 2016, 06:23:49 AM

Quote from: btc-facebook on September 06, 2016, 11:45:49 AM

You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin.
Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit

Quote from: lister storm on September 06, 2016, 11:37:21 AM

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thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that

Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000
If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now Grin

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

I do not think users can manipulate the bitcoin price, if that is possible more users can do that to earn a lot of money in terms of bitcoin to make them billionaire that is why i am pretty sure that normal users can not manipulate the price

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Quote from: btc-facebook on September 06, 2016, 11:45:49 AM

You need mass buyer around the world that agreeing to purchase bitcoin.
Yes, there are some group that able to do that as the action can impact on their profit

Quote from: lister storm on September 06, 2016, 11:37:21 AM

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thats right, i think you need to have a really big amount of money in order to manipulate the price and ordinary people cannot do that

Remember the guy who seek for Pizza , BTC 10.000
If he hold his bitcoin until now, he able to manipulate the price right now Grin

For sure if the pizza guy would able to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but sad to say that was before in the past which is somehow a very regretting situation. Manipulating price or moving bitcoins price would definitely need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or to be bought,

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