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October 12, 2016, 06:26:44 PM
I think it is harder to manipulate Bitcoin Price at this point.  Unlike in 2013 where bitcoin numbers that are available in the market are smaller compared to the number of bitcoin available today.  It will need hundred of million to boost bitcoin price, and on the other side needs many bitcoin to dump it to lower price.  Either way, the manipulator have a bigger chance of losing than winning.
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October 12, 2016, 05:54:04 PM
yes the price of bitcoin can be manipulate but think it is not such an easy job, it need a lot of bitcoin you have because bitcoin is a universal currency and almost use in all the countries of the word, so it is not so easy to manipulate the price of bitcoin.
bitcoin prices can be manipulated, but I guess we can not do it by having a slightly bitcoin. I feel you need a lot of money and bitcoin in large numbers to do that. even if you have 1000 BTC it might not be enough. maybe just big companies that can do that, however, it may result in bitcoin prices plummeted after the ride
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October 12, 2016, 05:10:25 PM
Yes if we have 1 million bitcoins,we can manipulate its prices negatively which means we can only decrease its prices by dumping ten ten thousands coins everyday for ten days 
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October 12, 2016, 03:54:53 PM
yes the price of bitcoin can be manipulate but think it is not such an easy job, it need a lot of bitcoin you have because bitcoin is a universal currency and almost use in all the countries of the word, so it is not so easy to manipulate the price of bitcoin.
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October 12, 2016, 01:58:19 PM
i think that is not something possible unless your enough rich to buy enough to do so, which again, is clearly not possible lol
If you are the riches all worldwide you can do to buy that can afffect the value of bitcoin but .. who can do that since we are just users and investors.. some investors are invest a lot but they are just staying their coins to hold and wait for price increase and wait for new investors to come so that they will sel ltheir bitcoin and buy cheap price again..
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October 12, 2016, 01:32:11 PM
i think that is not something possible unless your enough rich to buy enough to do so, which again, is clearly not possible lol
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October 12, 2016, 01:29:03 PM
you are a fool to think bitcoin price is not manipulated and you are a bigger fool if you think this manipulation is as big as a couple of years ago.

in my experience price of anything can be manipulated but it is much harder when the market size of that thing grows bigger and bigger. for example you can easily manipulate price of an altcoin with a small market cap but when this market cap grows and more importantly when there is a fair distribution, it becomes harder and harder to manipulate the price.

Agree. Today's bitcoin status is not that easy to manipulate but still it's chance of manipulation is possible although it will goes in a hard way.. Since bitcoin was distributed now, at no doubt around the globe, the coins is distributed well. Y

Yes there are still big hoarders but not to the point that they own coins that circulating in the market.

I think so. The bitcoin market capitalisation is much bigger now. A single whale cannot move it.
But a groups of whales can move it because i heard there is  a group of traders outside and increasing that their plan is to increase the price of altcoin and if they seen that more people are attracted to buy more those whales they will sell so that the price will decrease and those whale made profit..
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October 12, 2016, 01:26:42 PM
Off course everyone who has bitcoins can manipulate the bitcojn price but what you have to do is work together becuase you wnont change the price by your self you need
to sell all together and the price will rise for sure!

you don't know what manipulate means!
changes in price are not called manipulation, the fake changes however are. and these changes should be big to be considered real manipulation. so you can't do anything with a small amount even if you can gather multiple people like yourself and try so hard.
yes that is right that the fake change in the price is called manipulating, and we can hear that words specially in stock market, but for bitcoin it is not such an easy task because bitcoin is a universal currency and one need so much hard work and need to invest a lot of bitcoin so as to manipulate the price of bitcoin.
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October 12, 2016, 01:20:49 PM
Off course everyone who has bitcoins can manipulate the bitcojn price but what you have to do is work together becuase you wnont change the price by your self you need
to sell all together and the price will rise for sure!

you don't know what manipulate means!
changes in price are not called manipulation, the fake changes however are. and these changes should be big to be considered real manipulation. so you can't do anything with a small amount even if you can gather multiple people like yourself and try so hard.

In order to manipulate the price of Bitcoin is necessary that a group of people concentrated in a large number of Bitcoins. Then there was a sharp deficit. The price may rise
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October 12, 2016, 01:06:54 PM
you are a fool to think bitcoin price is not manipulated and you are a bigger fool if you think this manipulation is as big as a couple of years ago.

in my experience price of anything can be manipulated but it is much harder when the market size of that thing grows bigger and bigger. for example you can easily manipulate price of an altcoin with a small market cap but when this market cap grows and more importantly when there is a fair distribution, it becomes harder and harder to manipulate the price.

Agree. Today's bitcoin status is not that easy to manipulate but still it's chance of manipulation is possible although it will goes in a hard way.. Since bitcoin was distributed now, at no doubt around the globe, the coins is distributed well. Y

Yes there are still big hoarders but not to the point that they own coins that circulating in the market.

I think so. The bitcoin market capitalisation is much bigger now. A single whale cannot move it.
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October 12, 2016, 09:05:03 AM
you are a fool to think bitcoin price is not manipulated and you are a bigger fool if you think this manipulation is as big as a couple of years ago.

in my experience price of anything can be manipulated but it is much harder when the market size of that thing grows bigger and bigger. for example you can easily manipulate price of an altcoin with a small market cap but when this market cap grows and more importantly when there is a fair distribution, it becomes harder and harder to manipulate the price.

Agree. Today's bitcoin status is not that easy to manipulate but still it's chance of manipulation is possible although it will goes in a hard way.. Since bitcoin was distributed now, at no doubt around the globe, the coins is distributed well. Y

Yes there are still big hoarders but not to the point that they own coins that circulating in the market.
legendary
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October 12, 2016, 08:50:55 AM
Off course everyone who has bitcoins can manipulate the bitcojn price but what you have to do is work together becuase you wnont change the price by your self you need
to sell all together and the price will rise for sure!

Ohhh. Sell altogether and it will rise? Is this some kind of reverse psychology?  Grin
I will give you an example. Iphone6 was created and they made 1 million of it. After a month 500,000 was sold but an event happened where people are selling it even for a half price without any reason. Will you still buy that Iphone6 after this news? Or some questions will come out of your mind? Why are they selling it? Right? Is there something bad about it?

So who will buy those if that event happen? No one and they have 500k left in stock.
So what will the company do? Sell it for a lower price. Hell they will even sell it Buy1 Take1 just to get ROI back.

That will be a lost for Apple.
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October 12, 2016, 07:18:09 AM
Off course everyone who has bitcoins can manipulate the bitcojn price but what you have to do is work together becuase you wnont change the price by your self you need
to sell all together and the price will rise for sure!

you don't know what manipulate means!
changes in price are not called manipulation, the fake changes however are. and these changes should be big to be considered real manipulation. so you can't do anything with a small amount even if you can gather multiple people like yourself and try so hard.
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October 12, 2016, 06:55:01 AM
Off course everyone who has bitcoins can manipulate the bitcojn price but what you have to do is work together becuase you wnont change the price by your self you need
to sell all together and the price will rise for sure!
I think you said something wrong. selling bitcoin all together won't rise it's price.. but buying bitcoin will rise the price of bitcoin. if all people become together and sell all their bitcoin then bitcoin price will dump so badly.
The demand of bitcoin will make the price rise because some people may not be selling their coins which would increase the price. The law of supply will be applied here as the total bitcoins in the circulation are only limited.
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October 12, 2016, 02:54:01 AM
Off course everyone who has bitcoins can manipulate the bitcojn price but what you have to do is work together becuase you wnont change the price by your self you need
to sell all together and the price will rise for sure!
I think you said something wrong. selling bitcoin all together won't rise it's price.. but buying bitcoin will rise the price of bitcoin. if all people become together and sell all their bitcoin then bitcoin price will dump so badly.
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October 12, 2016, 02:46:41 AM
Off course everyone who has bitcoins can manipulate the bitcojn price but what you have to do is work together becuase you wnont change the price by your self you need
to sell all together and the price will rise for sure!
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October 12, 2016, 02:28:20 AM
you are a fool to think bitcoin price is not manipulated and you are a bigger fool if you think this manipulation is as big as a couple of years ago.

in my experience price of anything can be manipulated but it is much harder when the market size of that thing grows bigger and bigger. for example you can easily manipulate price of an altcoin with a small market cap but when this market cap grows and more importantly when there is a fair distribution, it becomes harder and harder to manipulate the price.
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October 12, 2016, 01:55:09 AM

Yes we can manipulate the price of bitcoins if we are going to keep on demanding and supporting the usage of bitcoin.

But the ones who are able to manipulate the price of bitcoins are the whales, who are holding a lot of bitcoins in their wallets.

Maybe thousands of bitcoins or even millions.

Add to that those Chinese miners, it seems that the bulk of bitcoin comes from them.They have millions being hoarded and it seems can change bitcoin price it they all unite.If we all unite, then we can manipulate bitcoin price but it will seldom happen. last time maybe is due to halving?
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October 12, 2016, 01:38:13 AM
Most likely if you are with a lot of people you can manipulate the price without any doubts, and the fact is also that this already has been done back in the days.
I think there is a possibility to do this, so my answer is yes.

Yes we can manipulate the price of bitcoins if we are going to keep on demanding and supporting the usage of bitcoin.

But the ones who are able to manipulate the price of bitcoins are the whales, who are holding a lot of bitcoins in their wallets.

Maybe thousands of bitcoins or even millions.
A manipulation is only done by the minority who are holding a majority of share in the total circulation of bitcoins, with that for sure we cannot manipulate but they can, what we are doing is that we keep on buying so the price of bitcoin will rise for the benefit of everyone.
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October 11, 2016, 09:51:25 PM
Most likely if you are with a lot of people you can manipulate the price without any doubts, and the fact is also that this already has been done back in the days.
I think there is a possibility to do this, so my answer is yes.

Yes we can manipulate the price of bitcoins if we are going to keep on demanding and supporting the usage of bitcoin.

But the ones who are able to manipulate the price of bitcoins are the whales, who are holding a lot of bitcoins in their wallets.

Maybe thousands of bitcoins or even millions.
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