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October 03, 2016, 07:46:29 PM
you can manipulate bitcoin price
but your must have much bitcoin, minimum you must have 10K bitcoin , or over 6 milion dollar
hero member
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October 03, 2016, 07:29:38 PM
If we buy or sell from someone of course we can manipulate bitcoin price, but if we sell or buy from exchanger of course can't
Lol is meant to manipulate not like it. of course you can ask for the price to someone when you're selling or buying.
but the question is can you change the manipulation of bitcoin prices in the world market? is it possible?
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October 03, 2016, 05:24:52 PM
At some exchanges you can influence, manipulate the price of bitcoin in around 20-50 dollars, but you need to have atleast 1-2 btc, at big exchanges were the bitcoins are traded all minutes your attempt will mean maybe a raise or drop of cents and just.
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September 29, 2016, 09:11:36 AM
It will be very difficult to manipulate bitcoin price, because the price is depend on all user and the number amount of transaction, so in order to manipulate the price you are going to need a huge amount of bitcoin to trade

Yes or a large group of people that will really sacrifice their time and effort to make a movement. But I doubt that will happen. Selfishness will always come to the top first before helping each other and one more is why would they entrust their beloved coins for the group sake.
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September 29, 2016, 07:28:30 AM
It will be very difficult to manipulate bitcoin price, because the price is depend on all user and the number amount of transaction, so in order to manipulate the price you are going to need a huge amount of bitcoin to trade
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September 29, 2016, 04:47:05 AM
For sure it's possible to manipulate the price but not for regular people like use only for very rich people cause they can buy super many causing prices to go up or sell and dump them all causing a crash again.
It is possible because we have seen whales in the industry but since we are increasing in volume it would be hard for them to manipulate already. That is why I am loving bitcoin to trust my future investment because the future will bring me good profit, if the price will be manipulate I am sure it will be up.
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September 29, 2016, 04:44:30 AM
For sure it's possible to manipulate the price but not for regular people like use only for very rich people cause they can buy super many causing prices to go up or sell and dump them all causing a crash again.
so how much the exact money to manipulate the price? i don't think,only "rich" is not enough but very rich could probably enough,bitcoin's volume in 24H taken from coinmarketcap is $44,481,200,i'm just curious how in this world people would spend millions dollar for only manipulating bitcoin while the chance is uncertain
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September 29, 2016, 04:38:37 AM
For sure it's possible to manipulate the price but not for regular people like use only for very rich people cause they can buy super many causing prices to go up or sell and dump them all causing a crash again.
legendary
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September 29, 2016, 03:01:01 AM
If we buy or sell from someone of course we can manipulate bitcoin price, but if we sell or buy from exchanger of course can't

When we're using an exchange, the transactions are being completed on the Blockchain too. This means the price can be manipulated by exchanges too, and this is part of the price business. If I had a million bucks and would transfer it dozens of times, the price would be instantly up a few dollars. We're part of the price, we make it change.
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September 29, 2016, 02:57:39 AM
I remembered reading an article from bloomberg which talks about China who wants to make Yuan the strongest currency of all. But they do have the largest bitcoin investment with them. Just thinking, is it one reason that can make them strong? Are they manipulating bitcoin without anyone realizing it will be the cause for Yuan to be strong. This will all be answered in the future.

Actually CN don't own most of the bitcoin and investment today. They just have the biggest bitcoin mining industry as far as my idea is right and concern.

Also some of the big whales movement of the price increase or decrease started in those Chinese exchanges since if they will succesfully start a trend there, others exchanges will follow.

But you know, months ago before the halving, CN devaluates their Yuan and that is one of the reason why the price rose prior to halving.
Absolutely right, and we cannot really tell who owns a majority number of bitcoins because we are living in a anonymous world, the fact that we are growing that is not only because of big countries but also from small countries they help to make bitcoin grow its popularity.
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September 29, 2016, 02:12:32 AM
If we buy or sell from someone of course we can manipulate bitcoin price, but if we sell or buy from exchanger of course can't
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September 29, 2016, 01:07:01 AM
I remembered reading an article from bloomberg which talks about China who wants to make Yuan the strongest currency of all. But they do have the largest bitcoin investment with them. Just thinking, is it one reason that can make them strong? Are they manipulating bitcoin without anyone realizing it will be the cause for Yuan to be strong. This will all be answered in the future.

Actually CN don't own most of the bitcoin and investment today. They just have the biggest bitcoin mining industry as far as my idea is right and concern.

Also some of the big whales movement of the price increase or decrease started in those Chinese exchanges since if they will succesfully start a trend there, others exchanges will follow.

But you know, months ago before the halving, CN devaluates their Yuan and that is one of the reason why the price rose prior to halving.
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September 29, 2016, 12:50:45 AM
Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.
I think it is impossible for bitcoin users would hold them, then no transactions and the sale or purchase in the market? lol I think it is impossible. for possible price manipulation I agree, it could be done by someone who's smart and has a lot of capital. and probably more than 1 million dollars

We do have an option to hold our bitcoins or sell it but if we do not own a major percentage of the total market of bitcoin then there is no way we can manipulate the price of bitcoin, we are just here to observed the market and decide base on our analysis.

I guess only the whales of the bitcoin ecosystem are the ones who are going to be able to manipulate the bitcoins price.

Remember the bitfinex case when they got hacked 120,000 BTC was hacked and that changed immediately the price of bitcoin to fall.

So when another whale wants to make the price of bitcoin to increase, they can just do it easily.

the bitfinex hack and the big drop was not a work of a whale or whales. it was the work of all of us who are trading bitcoin. everybody started selling because they knew very well that price is going to drop and rise immediately after and no trader passes on that opportunity lightly.
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September 28, 2016, 11:54:57 PM
I remembered reading an article from bloomberg which talks about China who wants to make Yuan the strongest currency of all. But they do have the largest bitcoin investment with them. Just thinking, is it one reason that can make them strong? Are they manipulating bitcoin without anyone realizing it will be the cause for Yuan to be strong. This will all be answered in the future.
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September 28, 2016, 11:47:29 PM
Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.
I think it is impossible for bitcoin users would hold them, then no transactions and the sale or purchase in the market? lol I think it is impossible. for possible price manipulation I agree, it could be done by someone who's smart and has a lot of capital. and probably more than 1 million dollars

We do have an option to hold our bitcoins or sell it but if we do not own a major percentage of the total market of bitcoin then there is no way we can manipulate the price of bitcoin, we are just here to observed the market and decide base on our analysis.

I guess only the whales of the bitcoin ecosystem are the ones who are going to be able to manipulate the bitcoins price.

Remember the bitfinex case when they got hacked 120,000 BTC was hacked and that changed immediately the price of bitcoin to fall.

So when another whale wants to make the price of bitcoin to increase, they can just do it easily.
But whales cannot manipulate the price anytime, they are making it with the right timing like if there is a bad news that happens in the community, they are just making the issue bigger so people will sell their bitcoins and will create panic but in the end they will just buy cheap bitcoins and the price will be back to normal in a short time.
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September 28, 2016, 12:35:40 AM
Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.
I think it is impossible for bitcoin users would hold them, then no transactions and the sale or purchase in the market? lol I think it is impossible. for possible price manipulation I agree, it could be done by someone who's smart and has a lot of capital. and probably more than 1 million dollars

We do have an option to hold our bitcoins or sell it but if we do not own a major percentage of the total market of bitcoin then there is no way we can manipulate the price of bitcoin, we are just here to observed the market and decide base on our analysis.

I guess only the whales of the bitcoin ecosystem are the ones who are going to be able to manipulate the bitcoins price.

Remember the bitfinex case when they got hacked 120,000 BTC was hacked and that changed immediately the price of bitcoin to fall.

So when another whale wants to make the price of bitcoin to increase, they can just do it easily.
hero member
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September 27, 2016, 09:40:32 PM
Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.
I think it is impossible for bitcoin users would hold them, then no transactions and the sale or purchase in the market? lol I think it is impossible. for possible price manipulation I agree, it could be done by someone who's smart and has a lot of capital. and probably more than 1 million dollars

We do have an option to hold our bitcoins or sell it but if we do not own a major percentage of the total market of bitcoin then there is no way we can manipulate the price of bitcoin, we are just here to observed the market and decide base on our analysis.
hero member
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September 27, 2016, 08:45:04 PM
Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.
I think it is impossible for bitcoin users would hold them, then no transactions and the sale or purchase in the market? lol I think it is impossible. for possible price manipulation I agree, it could be done by someone who's smart and has a lot of capital. and probably more than 1 million dollars
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September 27, 2016, 07:10:13 PM


For sure  if   the pizza guy would able  to manage his bitcoin then it would surely affect the bitcoins price movement but  sad to say that was before in the past which is  somehow a very regretting  situation.  Manipulating price  or moving bitcoins price would  definitely  need huge amounts of bitcoin to be sold or  to be  bought,

If we take that BTC10,000 today and someone dumped it, yes it will move the price down but not that much since I noticed that reaching the correction price today is more resistable with the support of the commonuity.

Today's situation is different from the past where manipulation is just an easy task. There are many big whales today that has different aspects on how they will move their coins.
Well yeah right  the price of bitcooin is always depends in the demand and supply the more people who are selling their bitcoin the more the price will decrease or even one person if he or she are holding a lots of bitcoin he can change the value of bitcoin buying bitcoin can change the price into high value and selling bitcoin can change the value below the present price.

That though will take a lot of risk. If I am the one holding a lot of bitcoin I will have a question to myself. What if suddenly it went up while I sold it all out. It will be a waste of bitcoin and capital. So the proper would be talking to other whales and do it simultaneously.
that's why you won't ever be able to predict, unless you just sold part of 'a lot', instead of all.
if you sell your bitcoin, unless you are urgently in need of that, it would be lead you to jelly. you should balance the bitcoin anr the fiat to get the bitcoin stronger, after all the bitcoin is valued because of fiat.
yeah, you can never predict the bitcoin price and it is a really good thing because no one can make easy money
hero member
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September 27, 2016, 06:00:26 PM
Off course it is able to manipulate the bitcoin price if all the peopel who owns bitcoins will hold their coins you will see the price dropping if we all trading with each other he will rise.
yeah I also think that the price of bitcoin still be manipulated by some great people, they use a variety of ways such as panic, issues, and so, naturally enough capital they need to determine is great. but I think it will be more difficult to manipulate when the user is large enough
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