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legendary
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

Here in our country, we are gradually moving from enhanced quarantine to general quarantine on general quarantine businesses and other establishments can reopen but with strict restrictions and guidelines, could be possible with gambling casinos so they can allow their work to go to their work and earn a living.
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many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
Things are not going back to normal anytime soon, even if a vaccine was found tomorrow and it could be produced massively at a low cost the economic effects of this crisis are not going to disappear, there are many businesses already that have declared bankruptcy and all of those jobs that they generated will be lost, this will create uncertainty about the future of the economy and people are not going to spend as much money in luxuries as they did before and if this behaviour continues then many businesses are going to go bankrupt as well as people decide to keep their money instead of spending it.
Still, when the vaccine has been discovered and mass produced, this will improve their recovery because many people now want to end this pandemic as soon as a few months have lost a lot, including industry and jobs for the little people.
But with its return to normal, economic recovery will return to normal where many people will be rehired and people will shop again with what they want.
In my opinion you are being too optimistic, the economy is not going back to normal anytime soon, there are many businesses that have already closed their doors and their owners do not have the money to reopen their business or to create a new one so all of those jobs are lost, and even if it is obvious that things are going to improve once this healthcare crisis is resolved I'm pretty sure that many businesses are not going to hire as many people as before because they are going to want to recover the money they lost during the months they were closed.
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In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.
Well, I know the desire that you want that casinos must pay their employees as they helped them in making their business a successful one. However, some of the casino owners are just selfish enough that they don't want to help them.

There are some casinos who are giving some assistance to their employees and that is a good move for them. Yes we need cooperation right now but the casinos doesn't have the power to sustain the lives of their employees for a long time. The employees must help themselves too.

The problem with some employees is that, they are just hoping that the company where they are working will give them some food supplies or cash assistance. They don't have any savings to be used for this crisis. One problem is that, most of the employees doesn't saving a portion of their salary but they are spending all of it and the worse is that they are spending in things that they don't need. Now they are the ones who are suffering right now.

I just wish that this will be a lesson for them that whatever happens, keep a portion of your monthly salary in a bank so that you can use it when things like this will happen. It will serve as your emergency funds.
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Also, some says that in coming time the cases may even rise much more than what exists in some countries.
In the case of the USA, that's what we are seeing now, there is an increase in a daily basis and in fact they are the number 1 with 1.2 million total infected now, it's no joke considering the increase was fast and they left other countries in terms of number of cases.

This is alarming, and they need to fully lock down if possible as it could in fact all the people as it stays longer.
I don't know, maybe they have underestimated the covid-19, because they think China were able to beat the virus, so they think they could also do the same.
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.

The situation is so difficult that on one hand if certain sectors are opened than they would also have to ensure that all the rules are being obeyed and followed so that in future there is no mess created due to opening of such sectors or industries and create further more cases. Some countries where the cases are drastically reduced can think or also doing it. But still the many countries are facing the issue and daily the cases are on rising mode itself. Also, some says that in coming time the cases may even rise much more than what exists in some countries.
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In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Unfortunately, the principle "this is a business - nothing personal" most often applies.
The casino is aimed at increasing their profits, they do not create any product, so it is not so important for them to have super loyal employees.
Of course, any enterprise wants employees to want to work on it even for free and love it as their parents, but as a rule, such things happen in companies that produce products that help people.
The casino, on the contrary, can get rid of all the workers, and then hire new ones without losing much.

I think even in a service type of business, the trust and loyalty of the workers are still needed to ensure that the business is running smoothly. Because they are the one accommodating the customers.
Although you have a point that it's easier to fire the workers especially when they are at the lower position, that just does not feel right ethically. It shows how the management poorly handles this kind of situation towards their workers.

i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!

Why would they pay employees that are not working?

Do you think jobs are a one way relationship? Contracts are formed based on the understanding that an employee will perform a set amount of work in return for their salary.

I can understand paying them salary in advance, but they certainly shouldn't be paid for work they'll never complete. That's just crazy.

How would you feel if you were a business being forced to pay your employees to sit around and do nothing?
When we say paying salaries, it does not mean that they should pay their workers even without doing any labor. Of course, it is not fair to the employer as well.  So to make it kind of fair, advances or bonuses are really the best things they can do to help their workers without putting the company at the edge. They can find ways to make things work out well for the two sides.

It's just my opinion though.
legendary
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i can't really imagine that owners of all those casinos and hotels don't have enough money to pay out employees' salaries. they are just too greedy!

Why would they pay employees that are not working?

Do you think jobs are a one way relationship? Contracts are formed based on the understanding that an employee will perform a set amount of work in return for their salary.

I can understand paying them salary in advance, but they certainly shouldn't be paid for work they'll never complete. That's just crazy.

How would you feel if you were a business being forced to pay your employees to sit around and do nothing?
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In my opinion, casino owners should pay their employees salaries in difficult situations like now. Because of a crisis like now cooperation
is needed by all parties, it cannot just rely on government assistance. All casinos should, especially in America, be able to pay workers
even though they don't work. Because I believe the benefits gained by casino owners are huge.

Unfortunately, the principle "this is a business - nothing personal" most often applies.
The casino is aimed at increasing their profits, they do not create any product, so it is not so important for them to have super loyal employees.
Of course, any enterprise wants employees to want to work on it even for free and love it as their parents, but as a rule, such things happen in companies that produce products that help people.
The casino, on the contrary, can get rid of all the workers, and then hire new ones without losing much.
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I heard that some countries began to implement a plan to gradually launch the economy. And above all, industrial enterprises received work permits. I wonder when entertainment enterprises (casinos belong to them, I think) will receive similar permissions? This would help casino workers no longer depend on the goodwill of the government or employer.
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many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
Things are not going back to normal anytime soon, even if a vaccine was found tomorrow and it could be produced massively at a low cost the economic effects of this crisis are not going to disappear, there are many businesses already that have declared bankruptcy and all of those jobs that they generated will be lost, this will create uncertainty about the future of the economy and people are not going to spend as much money in luxuries as they did before and if this behaviour continues then many businesses are going to go bankrupt as well as people decide to keep their money instead of spending it.
Still, when the vaccine has been discovered and mass produced, this will improve their recovery because many people now want to end this pandemic as soon as a few months have lost a lot, including industry and jobs for the little people.
But with its return to normal, economic recovery will return to normal where many people will be rehired and people will shop again with what they want.
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many people are experiencing the effects of this pandemic, especially the food industry and many employees are laid off from work, we can only hope that this pandemic ends soon and life returns to normal again.
Things are not going back to normal anytime soon, even if a vaccine was found tomorrow and it could be produced massively at a low cost the economic effects of this crisis are not going to disappear, there are many businesses already that have declared bankruptcy and all of those jobs that they generated will be lost, this will create uncertainty about the future of the economy and people are not going to spend as much money in luxuries as they did before and if this behaviour continues then many businesses are going to go bankrupt as well as people decide to keep their money instead of spending it.
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Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.
The company is generous for your friend, though not all can do the same as there are differences in handling this kind of situations, some companies might have enough budget to extend help for their employee while others have only few which can be in some sort of small help to feed their workers. This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.
I don't think that Casinos doesn't have enough budget in this kind of situation,

It is their decision whether they will extend their help to their employees who actually work hard for them, I also think that this is the right of the employees to receive the help they deserve in exchange of their hard work.
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Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.

No one knows when the lock down will be lifted and even if the lock down is partially lifted, we can't grantee that casino's will be opened or not at an early stage. Its been almost two months of casino closure (March / April) and casino owners will have to pay from their pocket if they do not dismiss the casino workers from job. Its really tough for casino owners too.
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That is great news. At least, we know that the casino in your country can support their workers by giving the payment to them so they can use that money to buy their daily needs. I am sure that the workers will be happy because besides of that payment, they can also get a holiday bonus. That is one sample of the casino that cares to their workers because not all of the casino can do the same thing as that casino.

This is true and hopefully if majority also does like this it will be a very good thing. Also wondering what government could pass on the benefits to the casinos owners so that the loses they would have suffered during their shutdown and making payment to employees can be reimbursed sort of for the casinos who does not make good profits or not that cash rich.

I think the government will offer some benefit to the casino owners so both sides can get the benefits. If many casinos can do this, I think that can get attention from the government so they can consider giving permission to the casino to operate or running their business under their law. Together, with the government on their side, the casino will not worry about running their business because the government will know that their purposes will not just to make money. Still, the casino will help people if there are other pandemic or worst thing happen again in the future.
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i think i have read a post here that the employer can lend money to their stopped work employee and just take the amount little by little when the work starts again to operate.
They are the only one who can help their employees, but how far they will be able to do that, if the pandemic will last longer then they will run out of budget too, they can give an initial help but these employees should seek full support from the government as they are tax payers. 
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Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon. If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.
Casino might be the last priority, you can't do a social distancing in a casino because that's not its norms. The business that are opening now are those providing our basic needs but casino doe snot provide it, so maybe we just stick to online gambling for now and it's possible that physical casinos might struggle until the end of the year or until the vaccine will be release.
impossible to happen that it can be implemented guys,imagine how small the place of casino compared to the amount of people that may enter the place.
remember that inside casinos are table after table and machines against the machines.
This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.
Based on the current situation, it looks like it will take a long time before casino will re open, and if the owners will provide salary to their employees that would mean a lot of expense on their part, though some countries may have lift the ban but the virus will still spread, and crowded place like casino is going to be a place that will put a lot of people on risk, I don't believe in social distancing within a casino.
i think i have read a post here that the employer can lend money to their stopped work employee and just take the amount little by little when the work starts again to operate.
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This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.
Based on the current situation, it looks like it will take a long time before casino will re open, and if the owners will provide salary to their employees that would mean a lot of expense on their part, though some countries may have lift the ban but the virus will still spread, and crowded place like casino is going to be a place that will put a lot of people on risk, I don't believe in social distancing within a casino.
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Any one has got any confirmed news that what are casinos doing in such situations, like are they giving the salaries to their employees even during lockdown or they decided not to be give, or are they partially giving them or what is the situation with such employees who had being surviving their families on this salary only? Hope things smoother quickly as possible.


In our country, a friend of mine who is actually an employee in a casino, he was given their full payment even without working ever since the beginning of this lockdown. They were also given their advance payment called 13th month pay, it is a holiday bonus and the casino expanded their help and give their employees a supply of groceries.
The company is generous for your friend, though not all can do the same as there are differences in handling this kind of situations, some companies might have enough budget to extend help for their employee while others have only few which can be in some sort of small help to feed their workers. This pandemic virus affects most of the business and thats include the gambling offshore industries.
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Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon.
Even if the casinos started operating ill anyone dare to take risk their life in a situation like this, these are situations no one wanted to undergo but we are forced to follow the protocol designed by the health department and until there is a containment, it is better to stay away from a crowded area.

If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.
You need to adapt to the situation, i was forced to sit at home for over a month, never visited any crowded places even though i go out once in a while, i never anticipated nor wanted to shut myself inside four walls but there is no other choice considering my health and the health of my relatives and family members.

I think the only choice left just in case this pandemic will last is to make necessary adjustments. Casinos cannot operate the same way as before because of the risk of pandemic. I doubt if casinos will survive if they open and implement social distancing or limit the people who can enter. It is also risky, just imagine the chips, money, tables, slot machines getting infected by gamblers and that will be shared by other gamblers.
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Lockdown is being lifted in a staggered manner across the globe, and I hope that most of the casinos will be back in action very soon.
Even if the casinos started operating ill anyone dare to take risk their life in a situation like this, these are situations no one wanted to undergo but we are forced to follow the protocol designed by the health department and until there is a containment, it is better to stay away from a crowded area.

If that doesn't happen, then a compromise needs to be reached between the two sides. Casinos can't operate online, as we already have online gambling sites for this purpose. Regular visitors may not be comfortable with the online casino games. Either wait until the lockdown is lifted, or try to reach a deal. There is no other option available.
You need to adapt to the situation, i was forced to sit at home for over a month, never visited any crowded places even though i go out once in a while, i never anticipated nor wanted to shut myself inside four walls but there is no other choice considering my health and the health of my relatives and family members.
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