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Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 2. (Read 9397 times)

sr. member
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It does sound unethical when members have fulfilled requirements such as KYC or others, and when they want to make a withdrawal they are advised to reapply for KYC, which seems ridiculous. But on the other hand, those who act as hosts can of course do whatever they want, including asking members to submit their KYC again. Even though it doesn't make sense to the members, when the host is like that then I think the members won't be able to do anything but follow the host's orders.

In a way they make them bow their heads because it is money that they are going to get, so this can be beneficial from the point of view that it will always lead to a better way of doing things, of course, I am one of the people who does not does everything in case I left my KYC, I always try to have my KYC in the casinos that are 100% trustworthy, like stake.com, bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io, where normally you have to complete the KYC once and not They make so much trouble, I know that when there are larger withdrawals they do have a more rigorous KYC but this is within the casino rules, even so they are reliable casinos and that is what gives more security.


Honestly, dude, after all, KYC is not a big deal if the casino has a good reputation and is a long-time player in the crypto space. It's just that there are others who don't want KYC and are sensitive to their data privacy. And that is their right, too.

Now, if they initially registered with the casino because they knew there was no KYC, so they made a deposit and came to the point where they won a large amount of money playing gambling, and suddenly they are required to submit KYC, there is nothing they can do or choose if they have funds in the gambling platform but to still submit. Because they only have two choices: to submit a KYC to release the winning prize to the casino or not to release the winning prize to the casino? That's all easy to do, right?
legendary
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, so it is a thousand Sometimes it is better to choose a good casino, do the KYC and then withdraw and win, that is what has become the best way to avoid tantrums.


Like I've always said, it better to pass through the stress of kyc upon registeration than going through it when you make a huge win. Some new casinos might act like they barely require the kyc data of the user at first just so, the user feels safe and continues play.njot until he wins a very huge amount will they start making the kyc compulsory. To save one self the trouble, we just have to look for reputable casinos and play there instead just Incase we might be scared of releasing our personal data to some new or random casino that we don't trust with such data. They will ask for the kyc at the very end so avoid being a victim.
By the way, this dilemma is about what kind of stress you need to experience in case of a big win. 
Namely, the stress of providing your personal data to the casino, which does not know how it will then manage it and use this same KYC.  And on the other hand, there is stress from the actual loss of a large win if the player for some reason cannot provide personal data.  In my opinion, all this now creates the greatest discomfort in the entire gambling industry in crypto-casinos and generally has an extremely bad effect on the overall pleasure of the game.  It can be said that the widespread implementation of KYC has completely ruined the gambling industry itself. 
And of course all this needs to be resolved somehow.  However, the general digitalization of civilization does not seem to allow this to be done in the near foreseeable future.  Here we are faced with a serious attack on the human rights to privacy and financial freedom.   And this is the wrong step in the development of the entire civilization. 
These are obvious negative consequences of the development of digital technologies, which, as it turns out, bring not only help and convenience to humanity, but also unpleasant surprises.
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, so it is a thousand Sometimes it is better to choose a good casino, do the KYC and then withdraw and win, that is what has become the best way to avoid tantrums.


Like I've always said, it better to pass through the stress of kyc upon registeration than going through it when you make a huge win. Some new casinos might act like they barely require the kyc data of the user at first just so, the user feels safe and continues play.njot until he wins a very huge amount will they start making the kyc compulsory. To save one self the trouble, we just have to look for reputable casinos and play there instead just Incase we might be scared of releasing our personal data to some new or random casino that we don't trust with such data. They will ask for the kyc at the very end so avoid being a victim.
sr. member
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At this point we cannot see that this is something to surprise us because we all know that casinos when they are starting out are a complete love, but when the casinos start to add more licenses then the demands are much greater and everything begins to be more difficult, I am clear that winning in a casino is difficult, and one of the things that makes it more difficult is the KYC to withdraw, and I am of the type that when I win I like to withdraw to enjoy my winnings, so it is a thousand Sometimes it is better to choose a good casino, do the KYC and then withdraw and win, that is what has become the best way to avoid tantrums.
sr. member
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Yes, we totally agree with that, but there are people who sometimes, when they are newbies, don't really know which are the platforms that do things well, or those that are very famous and that are legitimate or that are very authentic in which can actually be trusted, some do not know it and give their KYC in a casino that perhaps due to ignorance over time it becomes a scam, I believe that crypto technology should never ask for KYC because it should be anonymous and have the privacy that everyone search, those who want to reveal their identity that is another thing, but it is something that is currently very mandatory in every sense, and that is becoming fashionable, there is very little resistance to no KYC and most or all casinos require it.

We would really be wishing for this to be on this way on which it should be something that will not really be asking for KYC but we do know that these businesses are involved huge amount of money
on which it would really be that impossible that they wont be that becoming that being regulated sooner or later. This is why its not really that shocking that those old non kyc platforms had become that being asking some KYC as of todays on which it is something anticipated or something that being that could really happen in the future. It wont really be that much of an issue if you would really be that
dealing with the right platform but of course you wont really be still be sure on where those informations would really be flying on but well if there's nothing you do hide
then i dont see on why someone would really be that so scared.
legendary
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It does sound unethical when members have fulfilled requirements such as KYC or others, and when they want to make a withdrawal they are advised to reapply for KYC, which seems ridiculous. But on the other hand, those who act as hosts can of course do whatever they want, including asking members to submit their KYC again. Even though it doesn't make sense to the members, when the host is like that then I think the members won't be able to do anything but follow the host's orders.

In a way they make them bow their heads because it is money that they are going to get, so this can be beneficial from the point of view that it will always lead to a better way of doing things, of course, I am one of the people who does not does everything in case I left my KYC, I always try to have my KYC in the casinos that are 100% trustworthy, like stake.com, bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io, where normally you have to complete the KYC once and not They make so much trouble, I know that when there are larger withdrawals they do have a more rigorous KYC but this is within the casino rules, even so they are reliable casinos and that is what gives more security.

You wont really be having that kind of feeling of being discomfort or having that worry about complying any KYC if you are really that indeed dealing up with a platform on which you do know that they are old timers or someone whose really that being known or reputable into this market on which you would be having that kind of confidence and dont mind much about sending out any documents for verification.
Although there would really be still those people who would really be that skeptical in this regard because there are really indeed doesnt really like for their information to be given out no matter
how legit or reputable a site or platform is. This is why crypto gambling had become so much that becomes bigger due to the essence that people could really be able to play anonymously but well
we do know on how regulation becomes that always a problem where these platforms do make out those kind of integration.

Yes, we totally agree with that, but there are people who sometimes, when they are newbies, don't really know which are the platforms that do things well, or those that are very famous and that are legitimate or that are very authentic in which can actually be trusted, some do not know it and give their KYC in a casino that perhaps due to ignorance over time it becomes a scam, I believe that crypto technology should never ask for KYC because it should be anonymous and have the privacy that everyone search, those who want to reveal their identity that is another thing, but it is something that is currently very mandatory in every sense, and that is becoming fashionable, there is very little resistance to no KYC and most or all casinos require it.
sr. member
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.

We will need to understand their own side of view as well because all that matters here is just a business strategy and nothing more, the gambling platforms will prefer seeing that they allow gamblers have the first encounter with their platform and finds it easy to bet without having challenges in doing that, then to later request for kyc in which can be the only reason they can use to hold customers down to their platform for the sake of those that wont be able to provide the requirements for it.

You are right in what you say; it is the right of any casino to require KYC from their users. Even if we say that in the beginning they didn't say that there was anything, that doesn't mean they can't require it. Of course, it's not like that because they make the rules.

Any business like a casino, especially if the casino is regulated here in the crypto gambling business, that's normal. The bad thing is that if the casino is not regulated and still requires to get the KYC of their players, it's not really right but really wrong.

Its their right to demand that if they are transparent on their KYC verification to people. But if they are claiming to be a non-KYC compliant casino then this is different story since its like they are deceiving people and just that word only for marketing. They know that there's a lot of people doesn't like KYC and they cheat them for telling that they don't ask KYC but later on they surprised them with this documentation which is bad action they made. We know that casino will be regulated that's why they should not use that No KYC compliant or needed word so that there will be no lying factor will happen there since if I see a casino telling it but require me to do that then I will think about that they are a scam casino.

Some casino didn't tell at first that they have KYC and not  all casino like that is a scam casino but some are not . The best example of that is those casino who actually have doubt or they are suspected that their customers break the rules and regulations. So that's their reason that they are hold the payment and ask for some KYC. But still there are many casino that are scammers and that are their sayings that they don't have any KYC but once you are gonna withdraw your winnings then  they are many KYC but still don't have a chance to get.
legendary
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.

We will need to understand their own side of view as well because all that matters here is just a business strategy and nothing more, the gambling platforms will prefer seeing that they allow gamblers have the first encounter with their platform and finds it easy to bet without having challenges in doing that, then to later request for kyc in which can be the only reason they can use to hold customers down to their platform for the sake of those that wont be able to provide the requirements for it.

You are right in what you say; it is the right of any casino to require KYC from their users. Even if we say that in the beginning they didn't say that there was anything, that doesn't mean they can't require it. Of course, it's not like that because they make the rules.

Any business like a casino, especially if the casino is regulated here in the crypto gambling business, that's normal. The bad thing is that if the casino is not regulated and still requires to get the KYC of their players, it's not really right but really wrong.

Its their right to demand that if they are transparent on their KYC verification to people. But if they are claiming to be a non-KYC compliant casino then this is different story since its like they are deceiving people and just that word only for marketing. They know that there's a lot of people doesn't like KYC and they cheat them for telling that they don't ask KYC but later on they surprised them with this documentation which is bad action they made. We know that casino will be regulated that's why they should not use that No KYC compliant or needed word so that there will be no lying factor will happen there since if I see a casino telling it but require me to do that then I will think about that they are a scam casino.
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.

We will need to understand their own side of view as well because all that matters here is just a business strategy and nothing more, the gambling platforms will prefer seeing that they allow gamblers have the first encounter with their platform and finds it easy to bet without having challenges in doing that, then to later request for kyc in which can be the only reason they can use to hold customers down to their platform for the sake of those that wont be able to provide the requirements for it.

You are right in what you say; it is the right of any casino to require KYC from their users. Even if we say that in the beginning they didn't say that there was anything, that doesn't mean they can't require it. Of course, it's not like that because they make the rules.

Any business like a casino, especially if the casino is regulated here in the crypto gambling business, that's normal. The bad thing is that if the casino is not regulated and still requires to get the KYC of their players, it's not really right but really wrong.
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sr. member
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It does sound unethical when members have fulfilled requirements such as KYC or others, and when they want to make a withdrawal they are advised to reapply for KYC, which seems ridiculous. But on the other hand, those who act as hosts can of course do whatever they want, including asking members to submit their KYC again. Even though it doesn't make sense to the members, when the host is like that then I think the members won't be able to do anything but follow the host's orders.

In a way they make them bow their heads because it is money that they are going to get, so this can be beneficial from the point of view that it will always lead to a better way of doing things, of course, I am one of the people who does not does everything in case I left my KYC, I always try to have my KYC in the casinos that are 100% trustworthy, like stake.com, bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io, where normally you have to complete the KYC once and not They make so much trouble, I know that when there are larger withdrawals they do have a more rigorous KYC but this is within the casino rules, even so they are reliable casinos and that is what gives more security.

You wont really be having that kind of feeling of being discomfort or having that worry about complying any KYC if you are really that indeed dealing up with a platform on which you do know that they are old timers or someone whose really that being known or reputable into this market on which you would be having that kind of confidence and dont mind much about sending out any documents for verification.
Although there would really be still those people who would really be that skeptical in this regard because there are really indeed doesnt really like for their information to be given out no matter
how legit or reputable a site or platform is. This is why crypto gambling had become so much that becomes bigger due to the essence that people could really be able to play anonymously but well
we do know on how regulation becomes that always a problem where these platforms do make out those kind of integration.
legendary
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It does sound unethical when members have fulfilled requirements such as KYC or others, and when they want to make a withdrawal they are advised to reapply for KYC, which seems ridiculous. But on the other hand, those who act as hosts can of course do whatever they want, including asking members to submit their KYC again. Even though it doesn't make sense to the members, when the host is like that then I think the members won't be able to do anything but follow the host's orders.

In a way they make them bow their heads because it is money that they are going to get, so this can be beneficial from the point of view that it will always lead to a better way of doing things, of course, I am one of the people who does not does everything in case I left my KYC, I always try to have my KYC in the casinos that are 100% trustworthy, like stake.com, bitcasino.io, sportsbet.io, where normally you have to complete the KYC once and not They make so much trouble, I know that when there are larger withdrawals they do have a more rigorous KYC but this is within the casino rules, even so they are reliable casinos and that is what gives more security.
legendary
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Yes, this can be done at the beginning of creating an account so that the desired problems do not occur. I don't know whether if the casino faces a problem with large withdrawals from winnings obtained by members who have done KYC, what other schemes will they use to prevent withdrawals.
It would be very funny if members who had done KYC at the beginning experienced withdrawal problems when they won and were asked to do KYC again. and in most complaints, we can see that the data verification process can be carried out by the casino compliance team in quite a long time.

There are so many platforms currently in circulation that we can choose which platform is suitable for us, but of course it's not just by looking at it that we can feel suitable, of course we have to gamble first so we can determine whether the platform is suitable or not. Apart from that, at the beginning of registration, of course we will be asked several things, one of which is KYC, which may be the correct aim of what you said, to avoid unwanted problems, and apart from that, to make withdrawal transactions easier.

It does sound unethical when members have fulfilled requirements such as KYC or others, and when they want to make a withdrawal they are advised to reapply for KYC, which seems ridiculous. But on the other hand, those who act as hosts can of course do whatever they want, including asking members to submit their KYC again. Even though it doesn't make sense to the members, when the host is like that then I think the members won't be able to do anything but follow the host's orders.
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My concern is not that the gambler does not have the required documents for KYC but the issue is that even if he has the required documentation for the KYC, the gambling sites may still not accept the KYC if the withdrawal amount is big and they do not want that the gambler becomes eligible for a withdraw.
In the event that things are like this, that they do not accept the KYC so that I cannot withdraw, that for me is a scam, that is what I would say from the beginning because it is not possible that with everything up to date and they say no, now it is Thus, and apart from a very great lack of respect towards one as a player, apart from everything else in casinos it should be the same, if a person had not won but had lost a large amount of money, then is that fair? If it doesn't matter at all, they don't even bother to see if there was an error in the player's bet or something , but rather that the money was spent and that's it, then those kinds of things are what aren't very fair
Not that I'm siding them but I won't be hasty and say that, especially if you haven't investigated further. Sure your documents are up to date but the question is, did you follow the instructions that they are telling you, carefully? And what if this casino has a high rating?

Each customer must be respected even if they are not VIP yet but as a business owner, I think they already know this and will try their best to serve us. Sometimes, being too strict can only be a sign of being a professional. It's normal that they will not react on a loss but the player can still report if there is something wrong with it and a legit casino will act accordingly to solve the issue.
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.
If the gambling site is like that, I'd better look for a site that is really fair, there are no problems regarding doing KYC, but if deposits are permitted and withdrawals are not permitted, that is coercion in the game and could be considered fraudulent, it is better to play at  A well-known gambling site rather than a new gambling site that provides frills and ultimately ends up being fraudulent, I'd rather avoid that so that my money doesn't go to waste on that gambling site.
this has been the issue from many gambling sites before but its good that recently we are seeing
small percent that is doing this attitude towards their players because like you this seems to be
misleading and fooling gamblers to believe they are have privacy playing but after a time then
will take the privacy from them.
legendary
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.
If the gambling site is like that, I'd better look for a site that is really fair, there are no problems regarding doing KYC, but if deposits are permitted and withdrawals are not permitted, that is coercion in the game and could be considered fraudulent, it is better to play at  A well-known gambling site rather than a new gambling site that provides frills and ultimately ends up being fraudulent, I'd rather avoid that so that my money doesn't go to waste on that gambling site.

Lots of reputable casino which is transparent on their KYC process so there's no need to stay on those casino fooling us for saying that they won't need a KYC but suddenly they asked something like this when a player win or there's something they say needed to verify since its pure deception. Fraudulent casino always say they are not KYC compliant casino since this is part of their plan to deceive people and make them think that their identity is safe then scam them. Its good decision to avoid rather than trying to risk since for sure we cannot get a good assurance with those casino who fool people regarding on this situation since for sure we might end up getting compromised by them.
legendary
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.
That is exactly the point but unfortunately, most casinos really don't give a damn what we the gamblers feel or think their actions (such actions) stand for or represent, and this is mostly because regulation on online casinos arent really strong, if at all it's present, and this is one of the reasons why I am usually of the opinion that registration and licenses that most online gambling casinos obtain to prove their legality in the gambling industry is nothing but for decoration, show and nothing else.
This is why we see that a casino that is fully registered and licensed can one day, wake up and decide to close the casino and run away with customers deposits, and yet, the regulatory body wont do a thing about it, because possibly, they don't even know the faces that operated the scam casino, they (the regulators) were only interested in selling license and nothing else, and yet, they claim to protect consumers.

If regulations was strong enough on online casinos, I believe such cases as casino allowing deposit without kyc, and demanding kyc when it's time for the user to withdraw his or her money; would have been non-existent, because any casino that is caught in such act would be barred or sanctioned heavily.
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If KYC is must, I think they mustn't allow users play/use their casino until they fill their details and get accepted rather than let them deposit and play from the very beginning. It may be somewhere in TOS but letting them play/deposit but deny withdrawal asking KYC is totally unfair and somewhat scam/cheating. Then it will be like one way door. One can enter but can't exit.
If the gambling site is like that, I'd better look for a site that is really fair, there are no problems regarding doing KYC, but if deposits are permitted and withdrawals are not permitted, that is coercion in the game and could be considered fraudulent, it is better to play at  A well-known gambling site rather than a new gambling site that provides frills and ultimately ends up being fraudulent, I'd rather avoid that so that my money doesn't go to waste on that gambling site.
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My concern is not that the gambler does not have the required documents for KYC but the issue is that even if he has the required documentation for the KYC, the gambling sites may still not accept the KYC if the withdrawal amount is big and they do not want that the gambler becomes eligible for a withdraw.

There are a lot of complications in case you do not want do the KYC initially. I think one should read the terms and conditions first and if there is a KYC requirement at any stage, better do it on the first stage and avoid any problems later. If you do not want to do the KYC, better play at KYC free casino that will not ask for KYC even at the time of withdrawal.
Yes, this can be done at the beginning of creating an account so that the desired problems do not occur. I don't know whether if the casino faces a problem with large withdrawals from winnings obtained by members who have done KYC, what other schemes will they use to prevent withdrawals.
It would be very funny if members who had done KYC at the beginning experienced withdrawal problems when they won and were asked to do KYC again. and in most complaints, we can see that the data verification process can be carried out by the casino compliance team in quite a long time.
legendary
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My concern is not that the gambler does not have the required documents for KYC but the issue is that even if he has the required documentation for the KYC, the gambling sites may still not accept the KYC if the withdrawal amount is big and they do not want that the gambler becomes eligible for a withdraw.

In the event that things are like this, that they do not accept the KYC so that I cannot withdraw, that for me is a scam, that is what I would say from the beginning because it is not possible that with everything up to date and they say no, now it is Thus, and apart from a very great lack of respect towards one as a player, apart from everything else in casinos it should be the same, if a person had not won but had lost a large amount of money, then is that fair? If it doesn't matter at all, they don't even bother to see if there was an error in the player's bet or something , but rather that the money was spent and that's it, then those kinds of things are what aren't very fair
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