Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 5. (Read 12716 times)

By and large, the widespread introduction of non-cash payments has almost completely eliminated the element of anonymity in payments.  And you are right that it has become impossible to carry out banking transactions or payments using plastic cards without identifying the payer.  But such human actions as universally disclosing one’s identity to just anyone, including any shady or even fraudulent casino, cannot be considered normal.  It’s just that you immediately provide information about yourself that other businesses may not know about you.  This is information about your gambling habits. 
That's all.  Leaks are inevitable.  And at least above all, the mobile phone is polluted with contextual targeted advertising.  But is this really what you need in your life?  Most likely this is clearly unnecessary for you. 
Therefore, you still shouldn’t provide KYC verification data to just anyone and on their recommendation or even on the first request.

You share your data everyday - social networks, delivery services, banks, etc. But you think that only casino can sell your data. And you can`t don`t share your data if you want to make your life more comfortable.
The best way is to think that your data is sold. Take care about your bank cards and mobile phone, use 2FA and sms confirmations.
That`s why i say don`t be afraid of KYC.


Yep, they doubt when you want your money back  
Why they don`t forget you to deposit money? Why there are no deposit limits? They don`t care where from these money, until you don`t want it back.

I disagree, they have no doubts when we deposit and gamble with money. But at first, there can be instances that they already have doubted you with your deposit when it's quite hefty amount of money.

Even if you gamble with that and try to withdraw some when you have changed your mind.

Then, that's something else for them and will start questioning you.

Actually there's no way on hiding yourself about KYC thing because if we do speak about those typical life situations like getting some documents or ID or whatever documents then we are already that exposing our personal information. It id really just that turned out that we are currently dealing up with something which is online. The moment that you would really be having such impresssions
then it would really be creating those kind of doubts on which it would really be just that normal and typical on having this kind of consideration. Doubts about exposing your indentity is just a normal thing but just like been said that our information had been long time exposed or known. So why would really be that trying out to avoid?

The reason why most person are all very serious about their KYC is because most of the time some casino do sell it out but although some of the casino that do that are the ones with no reputation at all but even at that many gambler are still very conscious of the data they do submit to the casino. But like you said there is actually no need to panic if you are clear beside it's a matter of seconds or minute for the verification of the details you submit for reputable casino.

That's why KYC and wagering requirements has been required to fight those money laundering activities made up by criminal. And since this is been implemented on casinos, I guess lots of frauds now is not thinking about using those online casino which have this requirements since aside that they might get tracked by authorities. They might also got compromised especially if they deal certain huge amount to those casinos.

There's nothing to be afraid of KYC if you are a simple person just want to have fun on casinos since for sure there's nothing will happen to us. Only those criminals or other which have bad intentions are avoiding it since they don't want to get caught for what illegal activities they are doing.

Money laundering mostly stops by wagering requirements. Casino KYC you if they have doubts in your honesty. Unfortunately, such doubts they have if you begin to win. And they have no any doubts when you deposit money.
On one hand - there is nothing to be afraid in KYC. On the other hand - today KYC is used mostly against gamblers, not for its real purpose.

That's right.

Because they have to follow it up for a KYC and they're very strict with that. Even the gambler have won it through their casino, they'd still doubt that player even they've got the records.

One reason that they might say about asking for its compliance is about money laundering. Yeah, you've won a large amount but because you want to withdraw it and take that money, they will doubt you that you'd used fund from money laundering.

Yea, that a casino is regulated doesn't give full assurance or guarantee, but there are some casinos that have been operating for so many years and have not recorded any bad activity related to scam during their year of their services. Those high reputable casinos are the kinds of casinos a gambler should trust while making a choice for the casino to gamble at. We have some old, reputable casinos on this forum, and they undoubtedly have good records, despite the fact that they also ask for KYC. 

Exactly. We must be careful when selecting the casino and not just choose the casino from the review out there. We must search for many reviews before we decide so we know what casino we want. We don't know which casino that will turn into scam and which will be a legit one.

Some casino needs to do KYC before their user can process their withdrawal so we must be aware of that. We can asks about that matter with their support system so everything will be clear. We don't have to suspicious with the casino if we can collect many information about the casino.

If you want to gambling, you must search for reputable casino so you will not have any problem when you gambling. You can search the casino from this forum as we have many good casinos. That will also what we suggest to our friends when they want to know the online crypto casino.

I also have the impression there is an important percentage of people within the gambling community which over-estimated the actual value the licenses have when comes to spotting differences between reliable and likely scam casinos. Licenses can be acquired by any casino which fills some basic requirements and also pays enough for the license itself, it does not guarantee anything shady will come and happen in the cute with that casino. In the case of casinos which are unlicensed or not regulated at the beginning of their operations, most of those who act in good faith and do not wish to scam any penny out their gamblers will be asked by authorities to get regulated after they have accumulated an important number of gamblers and a high enough volume, most of them will accept to get licensed, since they would not like to get their domain seized and lose all their hard work and community.

Whether we like it or not, the tendency is towards licensing, but we should not look at it as a warranty of reputation. A good reputation and time in the market is worth more than a license.

Not all regulated wouldnt be turned out to be a scam and it's important that you should really be wary about the probabilities and possibilities that you could really be able encounter those legit sites but doesn't mean out that they won't be turning out to be a scam. This is why it's important that you do stick with those reputable sites.Although it doesn't mean that they won't be turning be a scam but somehow you would be able to assure that you could be able to have that confidence that you are on the right place.

If you do just that hover yourself into this forum then you could really just that be able to find out tons of good sites on which you could really be able to make yourself play on without worrying about legitimacy despite on having that KYC  thing.
You wouldn't be hindering yourself just because you are really that seeing that it is really that trust able by the community.

Regulated casinos doesn't necessarily mean they won't turn as scam, as time goes by. Because even the casino is regulated and licensed, there are some cases that they turned as shady and eventually scam. Therefore it's still best to choose the casino to play in since you're going to risk your hard-earned money just to gamble. Anyway, nowadays, a casino asking for kyc is not isolated anymore. Thus, expect that you'll be asked of kyc if you're playing on a regulated casino.

agreed, it would be good to resolve it by agreement between both parties, because in my opinion, by not paying other people's winnings that have been obtained, perhaps it could also reduce the reputation of their own casino with the person who has received the winnings but was not paid, he posted the casino because not paying them and giving negative comments, of course it will affect their casino's reputation to a small extent. By resolving the problems that occur that must be done, especially with the staff who work at the casino, I think they work to resolve the problems that occur with their customers.

I have experienced where I entered an account number that was mine, but when I withdrew the winnings the number was changed. I don't understand what happened but I registered at a casino which had almost the same name and I registered with a different account number, also when I made a deposit with the account number I had it was successful but when I withdrew the winnings my account number changed, I don't know maybe they are mutually exclusive. It's related between one casino and another or whatever but I don't mind it because it's just a small win too. So what I did was just change casinos and didn't bother.

The risk of KYC leakage is much more burdensome on the gambler most especially those that have not yet established their foot on a particular reputable casinos, because at some point the reason why I never sign up on some casino is because of the fact that I am affraid that my data is not protected and since I don't trust their capacity to provide me with data protection I won't border to sign up on them, but still on still I am more familiar with a few casino that have high KYC database that can not be penetrated either by hacker's or even the casino selling my data off when their become out of business for whatever reasons.
KYC have become more threat than it is a protection, speaking from a user perspectives as a gambler who have hard some few experience in the past with casinos that have failed in their responsibility to protect their players data most especially in time of campany crisis e.g hack, bankruptcy and sell off, this is what make me decide to only gamble on high reputable casinos that can not just fold up and sell out users privacy.
Much more also, as a gambler you need to read all the the KYC requirements and what to expect with KYC as time goes on like what are the KYC requirements at various stages and level of the account and it funding e.g when you make a deposit above a certain amount of you want to withdraw a large amount what KYC requirements that need to be meet up with, or just a ruetin KYC check that requires update on the account verification documents like when your IDs have expired.

There might still be some casinos that are only interested in having our information in their hands so that they can always use it to do whatever they want without any worries. Gambling is fun but when it looks like it's becoming too serious and unbearable, we can always quite even though while looking for another good platforms we can be using. There are so many bad casinos out there we need to avoid because they would always want to do everything to make sure that we are frustrated especially when we have funds in such platforms. It is always good for us to be wise and go for what we really want so we don't get cut out at the middle.

Yes, any casino that is regulated will definitely ask for KYC from their customers in the future. As long as they have the rules of KYC requirements in their policy, they have the right to ask a particular customer to perform due to some reasons best known to them. The only casinos that may not request KYC are some of the new, non-regulated casinos, and some of them can be scams too. 

Good, well-known casino, can`t ban your account without reason, but they can freeze it - stop bets, deposit, withdrawals. Mostly you have to KYC after it to be able to continue gambling. Even if you decide to leave the casino - you can`t withdraw your money without KYC. So choose yourself - to share some data, or to leave the prize.
It is typical situation today, so i recommend to make several small withdrawals before making serious bets.

       -     I just noticed that in other casinos here in the crypto gambling business, there are actually some gambling platforms that, when they see that the winning gambler will withdraw a large amount from their platform, they don't just immediately allow it to be withdrawn; that's how they play on their platform.

Instead, they first ask for criteria like KYC, and sometimes there are others that, after the KYC is given, there are still other documents that seem to be having an impact, or it seems that they don't want the gamblers to be able to release a large amount.

Judging by what you narrated, if at all there is a true reason why the account was blocked, it can't be for the data error but for the big withdrawal filed. It is not the first time some casinos have used deceit like this to steal customers' winning and will frustrate them from fulfilling the criteria they claim to be the issues, that's if they even answer them again.

About the data error, it shouldn't even be as difficult as this between a casino and the customer, errors are bound to happen, so even if the person made a mistake, it is the right of the casino to call his attention to it and the two parties should work together to resolve it, and not in a manner of cruelty like blocking the account, for what? However, my position on this is only possible in a sane environment and I am a witness to it. I made a mistake with my name spelling with one of my traditional brokers many years back, and when I sent my documents for KYC verification, they detected the mistake by themselves and did not tell me anything when they internally changed it all themselves. I only noticed late, that's how it should be. Even if they can't change it for you, they may call your attention to it, not blocking the account, that's harsh.