Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 25. (Read 12780 times)

I like the twist of things regarding the KYC these days unlike before when people put the KYC so much in their heads. Although some people would still put the issue of privacy in their heads, and the most annoying thing is that you may not find a reasonable amount of money to have warranted such a high level of privacy if you check the accounts of many of them. Being private and secretive are good and I am a very private person, but the manner in which they are taking it is too much.

Fine, you might hide it from the people around you as much as possible, but that of a company that is not even thousands of miles close to your country is extreme. Who is now the person digging you who has a few thousand bucks to that extent? Think of it, KYC is just a document, it is not an access to your account/wallet, and it is just a way for the government and the company to make us more accountable by knowing us, which is a global standard. Or is it the company that doesn't know you in person that will even become a threat to your life in case of fear of one's life? Another annoying issue is that those who are calling privacy concerns for not completing a KYC is that they will be busy completing the KYC in many other places like banks, schools and others that would also ask them for the source of their funds in some cases.

Even those places where they commit their money for long and short-term investments ask for KYC, which includes the buying of lands and properties. So what is their headache about that? What is so important to me with any company is primarily the good service and the pace of money withdrawal, and not the privacy because if the company can come clean and have their address, registration, phone number, account/wallet, regulation, tax, insurance etc details are displayed publicly, how much more my KYC being shared with them, something they will not display publicly.

That would be their main weapon for those situations on which they would really be having that kind of reasoning about their terms and conditions on which this is something that they would really be throwing at you and on the time that you've been telling to yourself that you havent been able to read up those long pile of text then you would really be having thoughts to yourself that you might really have that mistakes
that you have done on which you wont really be having those questioning because you do believe that you had missed out something on their terms.

This is why it would really be that important that you should really be reading up those terms and conditions and as much as possible you would really be able to copy it or
screenshot on which if there are some possible alterations then you could somewhat have a fight on this case.

Of course, of course it does, but that's where the trap comes in, or what I consider to be one of the reasons why it shouldn't be accepted and as a consequence shouldn't be played there, is that game of words that if you don't Read carefully because we are agreeing to accept everything that the casino wants to impose, and that is why reading those things is so important, it is actually a trap, so by agreeing with this and not doing anything else, then go ahead. What to do, we are accepting everything.

That is why there are so many casinos in the world, the ones that are most recognized, the ones that have the most reputation and the most acceptance are generally old casinos and those casinos are not interested in doing this type of things, therefore these things It is more common for them to be done in casinos that are relatively new that can have this type of inconsistencies, I have not seen problems with casinos like stake.com, bitcasino.io, among others because they are old casinos and not are involved in problems like these.

I hope you remember that some of these gambling platforms also used to state it on their policies that their rules are subjected to changes and they will ask you to acknowledge that you have read and understand their conditions of service before accepting the approval for your registration while at the point of signing up, and all we do is to check the button and click yes even though we don't read anything.

Well, the truth is that if some type of casino changes its rules, that for me represents a violation of the rights that you have as a player, because you cannot do things like that by changing the rules and without being able to accept the rules, because in a clause they can put it in a very crazy way to never win, just so that the casino benefits, and being in a casino playing something like that is equivalent to cheating, rape, theft, worthy of a casino with bad influences, in fact, in this case things They can happen differently if the casino participates and wants to change the Tos the players have to accept the new Tos that the casino changes, that is the correct and legal way.

This makes one think that the casinos that are more reliable, those with the greatest reputation are never going to play with something like this, they are very correct and legal with their Tos, because those are their laws and I agree that everyone should share their experiences Regarding That topic, I personally didn't even read the Tos for a long time because I was too lazy, now with all these things, well, I'm taking my time to read and accept the Tos.

Today there are just two things we have to care about - password/pin to the credit card and the phone(i mean the device). All services today asks 2FA or sms - so without phone it is difficult enough to make something with your data. And without pin it is difficult to get your money. Of course it doesn`t mean that you can don`t care about security, but these two moments are the main things we have to care about it.

terms and conditions sometimes changes overtime mate specially if casino are scams and
that is what you need to understand so to not falling from that term strategy though only few
casino has this but some casino are hiding their Terms specially in KYC thing just for their plans
in taking advantage of gamblers.
and this is also the reason why we need to share every experience we had in each casino
so others can be safer.

Well, being new casinos, the risk of dealing with them is higher than the old ones, we can never take out that fact since it will take time before they build the reputation and trust. While some would eventually build the reputation, others will never build it which makes dealing with the new casinos riskier no matter what.

But when it comes to issues/disputes, it is not peculiar to the new or old casinos. There are issues where the casinos could be guilty, but in some cases, it is the customers who would be guilty. For this, issues have to be treated individually and with the much-needed evidence so that the right judgement can be observed.

Specifically, when it comes to KYC issues, the customers and casinos could be at fault and this is irrespective of being old or new, and even reputation might not be a basis here as well. Imagine the person who signed up with a casino that is not a no-KYC casino and has played with them for 5 years without asking for the KYC. When the casino finally asked for it, the customers could now be frowning at it calling them all sorts of unprintable names. You can see that the customer is the fool here, a KYC casino will always have the right to ask for it now or later. Also, in the situation where a no-KYC that has served a customer for 5 years suddenly asked for KYC completion, is a breach of the agreement. These, and more examples have to be treated separately to ascertain who is guilty or not.

That's why it's important to read the terms and condition of this online casinos before doing anything or using them, they mostly do this not to scare users away from verification cause they know that the moment your money is with them you have no other choice than to do the kyc verification.

And sometimes it's for safety cause scammers also use them to keep funds.

I agree with you that it is useless to care too much about KYC as we may loss our KYC in a various ways especially for the phone companies. But if we loss access of any account which is related to finance or loss our pc/mobile then we will have a great/big loss.

The casino has an opportunity to use this trick when they want, so i`m sure that they will never reject this opportunity. And we can`t make something with casino rules - they have the same ToS in the main.
PS. I try to withdraw some small sums several times to get KYC. Only after it i begin to gamble seriously.


I don`t cares about it. I saw my data in internet several times before KYC. Lots of shops, banks get our data and sell/lose it later. I don`t cares about my data in the internet, i cares only about my credit cards and my phone.

We do know that old sites are ones that new too and just like been said that it is really that hard to trust up new sites but we do know that not all would really be that ending up on scam
and there are still few numbers that would really be ending up on becoming bigger on the time that there would really be recognitions that do happen. This is why it would really
be just that depending into your assessment whether you would really be dealing up with something new or would really be tending to give out some chance or you would really be that
sticking into those old ones because you cant just trust them enough?

It would be that not hard to identify which site is a scammy one basing up with those some couple of redflags on the time that you would really be having those kind of
checks and some user experience once you do hover yourself into the site. It is really that impossible you wont be able to notice if there's something wrong.

Those sites are old and reputed we can know from forum discussions, social media, review sites, and so on. If we invest without anything knowing then all the sites are the same whether that is reputed or not? They are new or not. They are a scammer or not? So, as much knowledge we have about the site we may trust/distrust that site and the important thing is that all the sites started from the beginning.

I do not trust casinos that are new, much less if they require that they have to comply with new requirements or demands that are very extreme, so new casinos have to be the easiest for a user to register, so that the ease catches their attention What is entering, but in a casino that requires KYC and that is so hard and that also has no records, how is it possible to trust this? You can't be sure about something because we don't know if they pay or not, we have to wait for them to be quite reliable, I now take that perspective because I have lost money in casinos like this, that's why I haven't become afraid of new casinos .

It also scares me when I go and I find that I can win quickly and easily, sometimes I don't think that I'm lucky, but that if I won quickly it's because something strange happens, sometimes I think badly that it's the good fact of doing those things Well, that's only for new casinos, but in casinos that are reliable one no longer worries.

Doubts is normal for new casino since they don't have reputation built yet and we don't know if we can really be safe there or the owner is just farming private details since we will be in danger if this case really happen. If they trigger this requesting a withdrawal maybe this is understandable if the amount if huge. But for chunks maybe not since there are people skeptical about the process and want to be anonymous on everything they want to do online. That's why if a casino claims that they don't have any KYC requirements and anyone can play without worrying that but suddenly implement this then I guess they are just fooling people around and cannot be trusted since they are not really transparent to their costumers.

There are bound to be doubts, especially if it is a new casino. but if the KYC requested is related to the withdrawal of a fairly large amount of money, there may be no other option to carry out KYC.
However, there are those of us who like to try new casinos. If they are properly paying players' winnings, I don't think there will be any problem if they require KYC verification for all users.
The most important thing is that the casino does not violate the trust that has been given.

Are you sure about the casino or, do you have no doubts about your personal data if it is used for the KYC process with the casino which is relatively early, to be honest I don't blame someone's confidence, but here we are discussing the confidentiality of personal data so that it is not misused.  by other people, what's more, the casino is not yet well-known. I'm worried that someone's data will be misused, so I prefer a well-known casino. If KYC is required then I will do it, but if it's a casino that I think doesn't have a name but asks for it.  My KYC will leave the casino to protect my personal data.

Stick with reputable sites then you should be just fine and this is where people do really miss out on making up some research but instead they would really be that
making deposits without doing any research just because they've been got hyped? This is the usual case specially if they've seen someone do flex out their winnings from an unknown or
not popular site and on the time that they do get hyped then this is where they would really be making deposits without even thinking on what they are dealing with
on which we know that this is really that something very dangerous i should say and this is something that you must be avoiding.

This is the headache we face in online dealings and it is not peculiar to gambling, but it is so less with formal establishments like brokerage companies these days. I guess it's because of the way things still are in the online environment where there is no proper conductor, monitoring and regulations that can incur heavy sanctions, which is why any business online could decide to make the earth a living hell for their customers. I can't just wait for that day to come when true fairness will be inculcated in everything we do online, it is only then that all that you narrated above and even worse will stop.

Although to date, I've not had any issue with casinos but I wouldn't pretend that those I know have not, notwithstanding, if you investigate the situation, you would realise that the casinos are mostly at fault or they are just overbearing in nature due to their selfish interest. However, if it is still the issue of KYC, it is the least, and I believe that those who are being targeted for the stress are those who did not do the KYC from the beginning and/or are the people who want to withdraw so big or are good at their gambling. This is why I advise people to do their KYC from the beginning, and when they are duly certified by the casino and they are later asking for extra documents and start rejecting them, then you should know that something is truly fishy.

Most gambling site doesn’t mention the exact time frame of requiring KYC but surely they always noted that KYC may be requested anytime when it’s necessary. Besides casino doesn’t requires KYC on random basis without anything suspicious on user account that needs to be verified with their identity.

But you’re right that reading ToS will not change a thing if the user doesn’t like KYC because they will always find a way to circumvent it just to play in the casino and later use the forum to seek support when casino ask them while they have funds on their account.