Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 31. (Read 12721 times)

I'm glad that someone else is advocating against this practice which is being used consistently by casinos on this board. I see this being validated case by case when there are reports about KYC or about accounts being frozen/locked.


...and this is exactly the idea. As well as this, in the event that you do attempt to do KYC, they won't just ask for a photo or a scan of your identity to prove it these days, they'll make you video yourself, video your with withdrawals to prove source of funds, and virtually humiliate you alongside stripping you of any form of privacy.


Unfortunately, this is true. Until there is a strong enough collective pushing the change, casinos will keep on doing what they've been able to do without consequence for the foreseeable future.

When a gambling casino is not requesting for KYC from the beginning, it shows the extent of how they could go far in helping us through the way we could start with them having no issues, the next thing that should be done is when they also requested for these informations, then we shouldn't hesitate in giving them as required, but in most cases, we took them for granted and denied them the right they have turned a privilege on us.

This is a classic thing that shady businesses do. It is completely illogical, given that if they were required by legislation to get your personal details, they should have done so prior to letting you sign up and deposit. Their whole object from the get go is to get a free option to make you lose money. If you lose, then nothing happens to your account. And if you win, then they will restrict your account, and make you KYC.

They do this with full knowledge that there is very few people that actually trust these online casinos to handle their private info responsibly.

Unfortunately, this is a risk that people have to put up with when playing online, especially at a crypto casino. No matter how reputable a company is, there is always some probability that they pull this.

I agree with your opinion because if a casino requires KYC then KYC materials should be provided first. If the KYC system is provided in the beginning then it is easy for every user, and one of the reasons for the ease is if there are too many strict rules for doing KYC then maybe many users will not be able to do that KYC so they will not participate in gambling on that platform. But here I don't understand why the OP joined such a complicated casino to have a much simpler casino platform. There are many trusted casino sites where no KYC is required during withdrawals and all casino platforms are best to participate in. But it is true that casino platforms should have simple rules or else customers will not want to participate.

My advice for everyone is to go with your first option and not let anyone drop coldness in your heart about this as it is the right thing to do, no controversy about this unless the casino is a no-KYC type. Have you ever seen any company you can trust 100%? That is why we should be wise, this issue of the reputation and integrity of a company are relative and it might not happen to all but that doesn't mean that it can't happen at all, so let's safeguard it. To date, I have not been a victim of any company, and this is partly due to how I deal with them. I follow the rules and do my KYC at the beginning of the registration to avoid issues. The same thing goes for those who followed by lead.

But still, I do read and hear stories of how some people are being treated unfairly by the same company I work successfully with. This means that they might be doing something wrong that I do right. One of the issues is this KYC, they could frustrate some people simply because they didn't do the KYC on time, but this would have been avoided if they had done it from the beginning. Many would say otherwise about this, but you should ignore them and keep on doing it and leave them to their later fate with the casino as some often face it in an ugly way.

I guess what you meant was that I don't see any additional hassle when it comes time for the gambler to withdraw; he won't have to go through the process of submitting the KYC because he has already done so since the start of his casino play.

To be honest, I agree that as long as the casino is legitimate, this is an area in which I can increase my trust in the casino platform. It shouldn't be a significant concern in terms of KYC.

One of the things that they would be having in mind if ever that they've been asked some KYC;

1. Those information might be sold up on dark/deepweb
2. Leaking information could be used in other means

This is why people would really be that skeptical whenever they do deal up with something that ask about KYC. Come to know that
Crypto gambling did become famous because of anonymity which does really exempt out someone when we do speak about KYC.
This is why people would really be that too reactive when the time comes that they would really be needing on complying something specially on the time that
withdrawal time happens.

I agree with that, if it can be done at the beginning why wait, something that can be done at that time must be done immediately, it's better that way than doing it later. instead of waiting for complications to come, there's no harm in doing it at the beginning before gambling, because some say this is annoying, in my opinion if they don't do it at the beginning it might be annoying but if it can be done at the beginning why not, after all if they If they feel disturbed by this, it is their own fault for not doing it when they should, so they have to do it when they experience complications.

That's right, reading the terms and conditions must also be done, because this can also determine their comfort in the future, if they don't read them there might be a problem and after experiencing problems they will only read the existing terms and conditions. In my opinion, these two things have something in common, where gamblers usually always ignore these two things, even though these things are quite important for their own gambling comfort.

I share in your view my friend, and it is for the sanity of the world that KYC is being required. Even if it is not immediately needed by the company, but later, if something happens and an investigation needs the data of some particular customers, the company/casino will be able to furnish it. If this is not to vindicate the customer, they will at least be cleared by law that they follow due process. As easy as it is, KYC is good and has helped so well in this world, it has stopped some evil-doers to rethink their plans and has limited a lot of scammers from achieving their goals. If there is no sin in the world, will trust ourselves. But I tell you that it is not all families you will see people trusting each other not talking about the people you do not know but still want to work with. Also, it is a good means to limit money laundering, it helps the anti-money laundering crusade to be more effective than if there were no KYC at all. These are a few reasons among the many reasons why people are being asked for KYC and I believe every patriot should be willing to do it.

I now wonder why some people would not want to do the KYC, and if you asked them, you would hear that they want to stay private. Private from what? As a human being living in a country, you can only stay private as a private citizen which is a mere word, and it is not a must that you gamble or do business. But if you must do that, you should know that the government and at least the company you are dealing with have the right to know enough about you. This is actually not by force, one can choose to avoid all that if that is good for them. But I think living in the forest is better for such a person to encourage more privacy as there is no privacy anywhere. Even our telecommunication companies know everything about us, so the privacy argument is always baseless and overrated. The worst is that if too much privacy is given, the world will be unsafer, that's the truth.

You know, I honestly don't understand from other gamblers why Kyc is such a big deal to them. Which, for me, is not really the problem. Because often, what becomes a problem is what they think is not good.

They say things about their privacy but don't have an investigation. It turns out they are the ones who committed a violation against the rules in casino gambling here in the cryptocurrency gambling space.

Damn, this is a pretty shitty practice. Like, I use Dplay and XFUN atm, and they do keep their promise as far as KYC not being required to deposit or withdraw funds. I imagine I'd be pretty pisses if anything else were to happen.

Crypto gambling mostly is famous for crypto users. The main part of the gamblers don`t want to learn something about cryptocurrencies. The online gambling becomes famous because it gives you an opportunity to bet anywhere and anytime. For someone it gives an opportunity to brake some restrictions. That`s all why it is famous. Except the small percent of users, that never leave any data in the internet.
Crypto gambling is created for freaks, that have some interest to gambling and to cryptocurrencies. And some freaks, who think that there is anonymity in the internet.

You're right, passing through KYC is not a barrier of how much you wanted to withdraw, if not, only those with higher money there will have to be the ones passing through KYC, when a gambling platform set a requirement for being eligible for rendering KYC informations, then there will not be any other contrary opinions to kick against it in the name of being linient, they may only kind on us by allowing us to start with them before requesting for it later and not by how much requested for a withdrawal.

That is one of the things that can be implemented so that casinos are allowed to do it in the most possible way, the most feasible and the most common and legal thing that they should do is that, but the casinos must be as tranquil as possible so that they can defend In the future, when I play in a movie theater I had that mistake of not doing the KYC and it was quite annoying for me to do it to be able to make a withdrawal and that is Something that I know bothers everyone in the world.

What you say is that before depositing, make a deposit, if you implement it, many will leave the caisno, but it is good because they may be scared, but then they will come back to do it because I think that is the only way they are True to the truth, people prefer that people do their KYC last so that they have a strategy to play and spend the money they had to withdraw It is a somewhat dirty strategy that some casinos Apply , not all , but I have seen those cases.

Instead of doing the KYC at the time of withdrawal, isn't better that the gamblers do the KYC before the deposit ? If we can do the KYC before the deposits, it can save a lot of complications at the time of withdrawals and you can have piece of mind. Sometimes if you do not have performed the KYC and your withdrawal amount is big one (in case you have won a lot while gambling), then what if the gambling site never approve your KYC so that they would not have to withdraw your big funds. At that time, you will be helpless.

Also, you need to read the terms and conditions of the gambling site carefully. If they allow withdrawals without KYC, then you may proceed playing without the KYC but in other cases, if it is explicitly written that you will be needing the KYC for withdrawal, try to do KYC at earliest. You simply cannot avoid it.

Make difference among the two on which its never been that people would be mindful about into that KYC or indeed mindful about their identification on which this is something that wont really be that totally
comparable on the time that they would really be dealing up with things online or with those platforms on which as on the moment that they would really be asked out for some KYC then
they would really be totally flocking away. There are really people who are really that skeptical when it comes to this, this is why crypto gambling becomes that too famous because of that anonymous gambling on which time comes or later year where regulation and other factors could get in on which it would really be that changing up the overall impression on which i couldnt blame those people who are really that been affected.

I share your opinion, it is worse to the point that if you want to withdraw just $50, some casinos will tell you to complete the KYC first. As this is their right, it is suspicious at the same time. The gist is that some might believe that some gamblers will not be able to fulfil it, thereby seizing their money for themselves which is why they beat it down so low as that. Such is happening in small casinos because I do not know why a big casino would want to be greedy with a small deposit, they have bigger fish to fry. This is unless they've added it already in their terms and conditions that no amount could be withdrawn unless the KYC is completed, which is why it's good to read the Ts&Cs of all the companies we are dealing with to avoid issues.

In the absence of that, then this is so suspicious, do you know why? Even in the payment systems/gateways, you may still make some financial transactions without verification. They will only set the limit you can transfer per day, per week, per month and per year. That's the institutions that are directly dealing with money and are strictly regulated, not to talk of casinos. There will always be some level of freehand given to them by the regulators (that's if they are regulated at all because many of them are only lying but hiding under it). Regulators often give them graces of flexibility in this condition and not be too strict with their customers. But if they decide to do that, one should know that something is possibly fishy and certainly not because they are reputable. This is why I often advise gamblers to first do their KYC so that they will not give any casinos the right to confiscate their money, and this has to be done before depositing a dime in their coffer.

It is not only about banks. We give our data to everybody, but afraid of KYC. Online shops, various services, booking, tickets, etc - it will take several pages to list them all. But the casino will use our data against us. It is funny to hear it. The only problem with KYC is that casino use it to steal your money. I remember here the thread, how the casino asked printed water bill when the gambler is paying online and refused him to KYC in their office.

And this is where you would really be tending to look up whether the site is having a license or not but just like you do said that this isnt really a solid indication that yo u would really be trusting up fully a particular site or platform just because of having these kind of things on which we know that it isnt really something enough for you to consider that it is really that legit just because they do have those
licenses but we know that this isnt a solid indication or solid identifier that you are dealing on the right place on which it would really be that best that you should really know on what you should really gonna do. There are really just those people who are really that tending to make checks before making any deposit so that you wont really be ending up on getting wrecked if ever
the site would really be running.

I guess you have never heard some cases where players need to undergo KYC for few hundreds dollar withdrawal or even less.
You can find those cases in this forum, it means that small withdrawal does not mean that you are free of KYC.
KYC is not only about how much you want to withdraw but it can be caused by some other things.
For those who are afraid of KYC, it is better not to play in online casinos or try to find casino which is 100% KYC free.