Topic: Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw - page 34. (Read 12549 times)

There is something that I have realized, that a KYC is a process that is annoying, because I do not like to comply with it, I see that things are very reluctant with that, but the fact that sometimes some things are changed, well That's something I don't agree with.

One always has to see if the KYC that is going to be done in the casinos is a very relevant process, because I only advise that it be complied with for the casinos that are more reliable, so that there are no bad times in the future, a casino that is a newcomer. I don't recommend that.

The problems with KYC are seen with casinos that are not so reliable, nor do they have much reputation because they are the ones that present the most problems, I am one of those who do not like to do the KYC, for me that represents insecurity and that can impact In the process, my data is compromised and that is delicate, I would not like the data to be leaked so that thugs come here to rob me or something like that.

It's only not a big problem, but mandatory to me these days. I wouldn't want to put money into something that might be a scam. And you can tell a lot from a ToS when determining that. Being too vague and promising something that seems too much, is a red flag. Not complying with regulators and being proud of it is a red flag. Too many typos, or anything inconsistent, defiitely a red flag. And if they are too ambiguous rules, i won't even bother to ask from help desk, but just don't use the site.

And even though it should be up to the casino noticing us of any updates, some casinos won't do that or do that in a way we don't even notice. So it's up to us to check ToS more then once. I was a member of a site that added my country to blacklisted countries, and i accidentally noticed it while checking it out again.
I might have end up getting my account frozen, as they didn't even ban my ip. That was a huge red flag and i know it's only a matter of time before they are shut down

And regarding to OP's text, i always assume that they will ask a KYC at some point. If they say that they won't, it's a red flag. There are different kind and levels of KYCs, but we should always prepare for the most invasive, that wants to know everything about us.

Once you notice any behaviour that is not clear to you as a gambler such as casinos not being stable with their decision making and what their stand out for at some point because if a casino could act in that manner to the point of letting the gambler down or asking him to provides documents which will end up not being verified by them, or even taking players winning and giving shady excuses.

All this is what makes up for a shady casino at some point in time, because when a casino starts to do what is not online or in connection with the terms and conditions, it will become dead end for the users because their can change the rules at any time just to suits their games.

We do know that once a platform would really be having that kind of behavior on which they've been making those kind of shady moves. Then you would really be definitely be sharing it up
into the public or even into this forum on which these information would really be scattered like wildfire on which it is really just that impossible for a good looking and well created site
to do such thing which we know that building up a gambling business and platform doesnt really come cheap. This is why on the time that you would really be able to
experiencing out such hardship on cashing out then it would neither be that intentional on the first place or something that a requirement.
This is why it would be best that you should only deal on sites or platforms which are really that known and reputable.

Actually, in my personal opinion, reading the rules, reviews, and terms and conditions at the casino is not a big problem, and reading all of that in my opinion won't take hours, but the problem is that most people are reluctant to read long texts. there's also a lot, because it might be boring, even though on the other hand, the terms and conditions and rules really have to be read and understood, the aim of which is to avoid problems later, but if they don't read all of it, they will have problems and in the end they will also have to read all of it. I mean, if it can be done in advance, why wait for problems to occur first, that's ridiculous.

Yes, that's right, what must be paid attention to of course is security, because in my opinion everyone wants guaranteed security, and with KYC which is related to security of course this must be paid attention to too. because it's important, it's not important, but if it's for security then in my opinion it really needs to be paid attention to.

They would lose their costumer if at the first of their operation they tell a lie to them. That's the reason casino should know to be transparent that they might need this requirement in future. If they keep telling that KYC is not needed then for sure there's a lot of skeptical people will not try to use their casino since they might not trust them for that. First impression is always important to they really need to be honest for all the time especially if they want to became a reputable casino in this forum. There's a lot of casino running here so transparency of everything is what they need since this is the most strongest tool to market their casino.

It is good to read the terms and conditions of the company you are signing to, nevertheless, often time, if you want to gamble all the same, whether most of the terms and conditions are against you or not or you have given the casino so much power, you will still accept it, or else, you will not be able to gamble your favourite games. This is your choice still, but since most people want to gamble all the same, they then continue to accept the terms and conditions they read or did not read. But some are too careless about this, they would agree to the terms and conditions even without reading some key parts, despite in many, the evil is embedded in those parts which causes issues for them eventually.

I don't joke with the part about withdrawals, especially the reasons that can cause account locking and refusal to honour my withdrawal, so I pay attention to them and also talk with some support staff. However, what I have noticed is that these terms and conditions of casinos are almost the same thing except for a few alterations, which is more discouraging for me as we give them so much power indeed. No wonder that even the court often sides in favour of the customer at times despite being guilty a little bit in such a case that could be bent by the judge since it is a plain evil with most terms and conditions in key areas. I wonder what the government is doing about it as it amounts to cheating due to the desperation of people. It is not all terms and conditions that should be allowed by the law.

Any casinos that is used to creating rules that is very hard for users to abide by would always end up losing customers.
This is something of common sense since their are several casinos online one can use and bet with friendly atmosphere and terms.
Everyone one wants to keep using casinos that would not keep giving us headache because we don't do some certain things right.
This is one of the reasons we keep seeing gamblers moving from one casino to the other just to get a better and friendly atmosphere.

You are right and indeed almost all casinos, even those that are big and have good reputation, will have requirements written in the tos that KYC will be requested if necessary, but for gamblers who are in doubt and are afraid of something bad, they can provide KYC right away initial registration.
In fact, for large and reputable casinos, we don't need to worry about discrimination in requesting KYC requirements and we don't need to worry about money being detained or account blocked when we have provided the correct documents.
They will prioritize maintaining good reputation and they will prioritize good service for customers so that there is no possibility of actions that are detrimental to customers and disappoint customers.

It easier, we use casino that is trusted and has good reputation.
They of course already have collaborations with several sports companies and of course this proves that they can be trusted because when they have the opportunity to commit fraud or have bad reputation then it is impossible to collaborate with sports companies.
They also definitely have large community and this will be proof that many gamblers rely on this casino.

Those who know the reputation of a gambling site may decide which to play and which is not. But those who are not aware of these they usually can't play and can't be aware of it and as a result may fall into the trap of KYC.

As most licensed casinos are requiring KYC, the player himself should be ready at all times to submit the docs if deem necessary.
Because you agree with the terms of the site, it means, whenever they ask a specific requirement from you, you need to obliged.
So better know what you are getting into, before you complain that the site is asking a doc from you, because it is already stated in their terms in the first place.
This is why most gamblers are being caught in a situation because they failed to browse the terms of the site.

If you are skeptical or doesnt have trust on the casino that you are dealing then you would really be having those kind of advanced thing on trying out to make some screenshots of their terms and conditions so that if there would really be some changes, then you could really be able to present them if ever there would really be having those kind of possible issues in the future but since
everyone is really that too lazy on reading up those TOS then i do highly doubt that they would really be able to read up about those differences. In overall if you dont like to experience
those possible experiences then it would really be that best that you should really be sticking into those known gambling sites then you would be having no kind of worries
in related to potential hold up winnings and KYC.

The funny part of all those terms is the part that gives the absolute power to the casino to change the terms and conditions of their services to suit them at will.
This single part has given the casino the absolute power to do whatever they think is best for their own good, this is the part most scam casinos have taken advantage of to scam alot of people of their winnings at some points, these things have been very evident in recent times with some of the few cases that we have experienced or treated here in the gambling community when there is a case of violation of rules and accusation from some players have pointed out the fact that those casinos have multiple times tempered with the terms and conditions just to suit their scammy aim to defraud the players.

Well, as now things will always be focused on Knowing how it can be done to make things more direct, or that it is more favorable without KYC, it turns out to be difficult, the rules of the casino must be read before Registering to future discomforts can be avoided, in case Someone has a problem, but carefully read in the TOS how to do it, or how they are, according to it, it is possible to complain and that is something so simple to do, that is why it is the success of the lawyers, reading, not being lazy to read before resgisyo was one of the things that when I Recorded what I was doing it was quick to look for where I accepted the Tos, just because of the laziness of not reading, I plead guilty to that, on many occasions I I did, just for the thrill of registering quickly to go play, now things are Different , first read everything, carefully and thus be able to make a difference, for that reason it is also when you decide how to do in the case that you Want to comply with theKYC.


To comply with KYC it is necessary to do so, firstly so that a Good link Could be Established with the casino and secondly to establish the Security that is had with the casino , and the link that the client Wanted to establish, because once You have to take the Commitment for granted, that is, if you decide to be a casino customer, you currently have to Comply with KYC requirements, after this, what follows is to be able to generate more profits with the rules, which is about the norms, the Tos, and that is what we must be clear About , as I have Said , there are times that the documents that they offer, do not say all theNorms or rules, because many of them are at the beginning cunood nons regitrtramos, only They place the newest ones as a bonus, and the rest is Supposed to be very clear to us, but at the Beginning of a Complaint, the Support Cannot remind us that we Sccept those rules , and from there nothing can be done.

While I can say you did a great job being a gambler, this is a different scenario of most of the gamblers. Let's admit it, most of us does not read the TOS of a gambling site before we use their service, as we are thinking that their TOS could be the same with other sites we played before, or that it's not too important.

So, with that kind of approach, we should put in mind that we have no right to complain if the site's action does not favor us like we are losing money but their action has a basis which is their TOS.

It's true, all actions must be well considered, including registering at a gambling casino, of course we have to read the existing rules, because it can determine later the gambling that we do,  and to avoid gambling problems. i myself still can't see or distinguish which casinos are trusted and which casinos are fake, but on the other hand when I play at a new casino I am always safe without getting any problems. it's true what you say,  it's good for us to go to a casino that can be relied on like a casino that has a high reputation and good,  because with that maybe we know the casino is good or not.
and in my opinion the goal of the casino is to attract many people to be able to gamble in the casino  because that way they will get big profits,  also the goal of the host is to reap profits from many people,  namely those who gamble. but with them of course occasionally some of them might win and of course in my opinion they have to fulfill the withdrawal requirements including KYC.

What happened is that when we are in a casino the things we can do are very big, we have to have control with what we do and what we are going to say, we have to consider that when we register in a casino things can be very different, from the beginning we must read these rules, we must not assume that we are doing things correctly when in reality we are not doing it, that is why every time we enter a casino we must see if the casino is trustworthy, if the casino is worth it. worth it and if the casino has everything to win, that is something we should see, if not, it is not the case, we must consider things with more magnifying glass, I always recommend going to a casino that is reliable, with a high reputation, some similar casino or like the one at stake.co, where you know that we will not experience any type of poreblma when using it and when withdrawing, KYC is requested, yes, but it is somewhat fast.

In the case that we do anything to be able to win is another thing, but a casino that we are in and that we consider to have as a favorite we cannot leave things like that, I recommend doing the KYC first for any eventuality, lest we have a good stroke of luck, we win and we cannot withdraw for the simple fact that we do not have anything as guarantee, unless the KYC has been achieved, then it is annoying, because it is really difficult sometimes to win in a casino and if You win so that later you say that you cannot repeat for the simple fact that you have to do the KYC is something wow, that you did not expect, and if they take longer for the approval of the same even longer, and if they ask for more legible documents or something, Well, the annoyance is spoer, because the first thing the person thinks is that the casino wants to keep the money they won, when a casino is not interested in that, a casino is not interested in doing something like that to run for their money, then it is Better safe than sorry.

They can also try to be soft on us by allowing us to have an itch free experience with using them on the start before later demanding for what they want, this is just all about understanding, if a casino is a KYC gambling platform, then know this and have peace, so that you can be able to present their requirements on request at any time without fear or any challenges, this is also like a strategy for them to get people attracted to their gambling platform, when you find it easier to begin with, that may be the only reason to make you choose to continue with them.

Many times, gamblers have failed in the area of taking time to read the terms and conditions of a casino before they even create an account makeing a deposit on them, many times it has been proven that the majority of. the cases we have seen that involved KYC from casinos are all though to players not reading the entire terms and conditions of a casino before they register on it, this has been proven many times to be the reason why they run into troubles with the casinos at some point in time.


The first thing I do always is to make sure I read the terms and conditions of any casino before I think of proceeding to create an account with them, this has helped me alot to avoid falling into unnecessary pressure from the casino when they demand for such casinos.

In this he is right, because in the case of casinos they always have to do things well so that they can offer the best service, when we enter we are so guilty of what happens to us, and before playing we know that we accept certain rules and commitments, That's why there is a lot of emphasis on the fact that you have to read to know what you are getting into and how you can do things right. I have thought that when they are doing things urgently in order to play, you don't read or understand. does not know any details at a legal level and that can be something that harms us later, for that reason I think that when we make a deposit, before doing so we have to verify that the casino offers us everything correctly and everything in the best way to to be able to play calmly.

In this case, what can be done is that you should be more patient if you have not approved the KYC, and not wait to win to then do the KYC, with that you will not have a bad time, it is a matter of doing things well.