It's not easy to blame the casino because the casino will say that they are not responsible for anything that happens to people who play gambling in their place. Maybe the casino can equip the place by providing a complete first aid kit so that if there is such an incident, the paramedic staff from the casino can immediately provide emergency assistance. But if the deceased's family wants to sue the casino, it won't be easy because the casino can turn against them by saying that it is not for people who suffer from heart disease, which can flare up when gambling.
This is actually a dilemma. On the one hand, the casino wants to provide satisfying service to its customers. On the other hand, the casino must also ensure that its customers are in a healthy condition. This is also the responsibility of each person who comes to the casino, apart from keeping his money from playing gambling. But how else, the victim's family will surely sue the casino because it cannot provide emergency assistance to the victim.
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[....]Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
They could be if the staff that administered the quick aid can be proven as untrained. What I would really like to know is whether or not the staff called 911 or seek help from other medical professionals upon realizing the customer's grave condition but that wasn't mentioned in the article. I think they would still be cleared of any charges if they did that. 
On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
I do not know about the lawsuit to be right or wrong, but according to how I see it, it is totally wrong. Anyone can die of cardiac arrest at certain middle or old age.Only what I know that can happen is to rush the man to a hospital nearby, but which can be done by some of the casino workers that are in charge of something like it in the casino. But it can be too late, cardiac arrest can occur fast and lead to death.
They are trying to blame the dealer for not noticing the player who suffered cardiac arrest since he/she continue deal while the player is already in pain. The story is not in detailed narration but the casino can be charge for negligence in case the judge who will handle this consider the family and what happened. Sometime court on US side against the casino when the victim family manage to get sympathy.
This is why you should gamble in land based casino with your friend, the dealer might think it's just normal thing and the gambler will recovered after a while. But since there's no friend of the gambler know if he has a problem with his heart, no one take it seriously. If there was his friend on there, he know what he need to do and call an ambulance ASAP.
As far as I know, first aid kit is mandatory in casino's. They also require basic training on how to perform first aid. On the man's case, it depends on how the casino act on what happened. If the man was having a heart attack and did nothing at all or maybe they did not noticed immediately, maybe there's something wrong with them. Imagine being a dealer and there's a man having a heart attack in front of you or just collapsed on the table and you did nothing. Man, you have no awareness around you.
This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
This ain't a matter of being prepared for health emergencies, it should be a matter of dealers not being dumb enough to let someone who experienced a cardiac arrest sit at the table and literally do nothing. In case the man was already, say, lying his head down the table and experienced the arrest then, then they may have ignored him simply because they thought he was having a break but really, don't people who get attacks usually exhibit some weird or odd symptom, e.g. shaking? I reckon that would've been more than enough for someone to check up on him. Heck, someone sitting at a table for 5 minutes not doing anything but lying down should be asked to leave really. We can't really blame anyone here except the casino. I mean we can't exactly blame the man for having a cardiac arrest at that exact place no? The casino can't escape responsibility here imo, not because of them not being well equipped for health emergencies, just in terms of personnel training imo.
The casino most likely didn't know he was having a heart attack. If they did know, he would have been dragged out of the casino so that they will not have any responsibility for his death. Incidents like this don't happen often but I do think casinos have clinics to respond to such incidents.
Obviously, they are not trained to figure out if a player is having a heart attack, so they just continue because they are also serving other players, but the casino is still liable for what happened to one of their clients, the dealer is trained to deal a card but they should still equipt on knowledge about medical attention, they should have CCTV where the people monitoring should be the oen monitoring if something is not right in one of their client.
The family has a right to file a case, if only they are equipped and their staff are trained for emergency situation like this, these things will not happen.
in that case i read it is very sad how the people around him think and what they think when someone falls ill or unconsciously on the blackjack table and what's worse the dealer continues to distribute cards to other players or is it really that bad the behavior of people in the casino without helping someone who is sick and I think this casino is like a little casino that does not care what happens to the people. it may sound a bit harsh but what I know is that Wynn Las Vegas is a luxurious gambling place but why would someone not care about other people when there is a very critical problem.
I know that gambling or a casino is a place to find entertainment and whatever happens is not the responsibility of the casino, but at least if there is an urgent problem, the casino should help or call the hospital to get it resolved immediately. people who are there are not free and pay a high price and if there is a problem like that and the family asks the casino for money it is very reasonable because there is no concern there.
I know that gambling or a casino is a place to find entertainment and whatever happens is not the responsibility of the casino, but at least if there is an urgent problem, the casino should help or call the hospital to get it resolved immediately. people who are there are not free and pay a high price and if there is a problem like that and the family asks the casino for money it is very reasonable because there is no concern there.
I can't imagine telling or ordering all casinos to start hiring a satisfied nurse or doctor for in case of emergencies, what emergencies anyway? Because a man died of a heart attack, how many have died the same way in a year? I guess there is no other like this.
If this is a constant accident there would have been a new form of law to start having a clinic or standby docs around the casinos to treat emergencies like this one, I am sure the casino will be able to pay but that's not the case.
I don't have to blame the casino, and first-aid is for injuries not emergencies like this.
For those saying that someone should have cared for the man, well, it's possible that they aren't even aware of what's going on, some gamblers are very good at putting up an act when they lose games, and some will even roll on the ground, they are full of drama, I have seen this before in a gambling house in my country.
If this is a constant accident there would have been a new form of law to start having a clinic or standby docs around the casinos to treat emergencies like this one, I am sure the casino will be able to pay but that's not the case.
I don't have to blame the casino, and first-aid is for injuries not emergencies like this.
For those saying that someone should have cared for the man, well, it's possible that they aren't even aware of what's going on, some gamblers are very good at putting up an act when they lose games, and some will even roll on the ground, they are full of drama, I have seen this before in a gambling house in my country.
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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/
This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
Nah, I don't think that the casinos here are to blame, they are in the gambling industry and we really don't know what's going to happen to us next. Maybe you are eating dinner in a fancy restaurant and then suddenly have a heart attack as well.
Just interesting though what will be the and of the person as it could be called a 'dead mans hand', in black jack now.
As in poker legend, this is known to be a dead mans hand,
From what I understood from the article the Op presented, not only did the casino team ignored or neglected the man they also didn’t have a well trained emergency personnel to handle the situation.
I think the casino should be held responsible, and just as the article said which is true, if the deceased person was cheating in a game you’ll see security everywhere trying to apprehend the man but when it got to the health of the man they all stood in their position and even went on to check the man’s card without bothering to know why the man slumped, which is very unprofessional for them. If they are allowed to go without any consequences I’m sure other casino that are also guilty of such behavior will still continue doing it but if they are faced with a severe punishment others might be force to change for the better.
I think the casino should be held responsible, and just as the article said which is true, if the deceased person was cheating in a game you’ll see security everywhere trying to apprehend the man but when it got to the health of the man they all stood in their position and even went on to check the man’s card without bothering to know why the man slumped, which is very unprofessional for them. If they are allowed to go without any consequences I’m sure other casino that are also guilty of such behavior will still continue doing it but if they are faced with a severe punishment others might be force to change for the better.
It is impossible for an offline casino to not have first aid kits and I think they do, but maybe in the above case there is no such service it may be very unfortunate also if a user or gambler has a cardiac arrest there should be a team to take him to the hospital with an ambulance maybe at least it is also owned by offline casinos. I often see ambulances where they are available in entertainment venues or first aid kits so that when something happens that needs to be rushed to the hospital they are always on standby.
But this cannot blame the casino and its users either, therefore users should play at casinos that have first aid kits and services like that, when cases like this occur they can be handled directly, but this case will become a concern and a lesson for other casinos. also gamblers who still play in offline casinos. because this is very important especially related to one's life.
But this cannot blame the casino and its users either, therefore users should play at casinos that have first aid kits and services like that, when cases like this occur they can be handled directly, but this case will become a concern and a lesson for other casinos. also gamblers who still play in offline casinos. because this is very important especially related to one's life.
As someone died due to the negligence of the casino I would support the family of the deceased. The casino should compensate the family as it was their responsibility to look into the medical emergency. Most casinos are equipped with medical emergencies as they do have trained doctors and EMT specialists. What happened in this case is questionable and now through this lawsuit, it will be investigated. Meanwhile, all other casinos should learn from this incident and try to be proactive in such a situation.
There are cases when drunk players just fall asleep into blackjack/poker tables, so I guess they thought of this one as another of those cases. Though at the least, the dealer should have called for someone to ask the man to 'leave' in order to check on what's happening with the guy. Needless to say, the dealer should have send someone out to check on the guy immediately after he stumped. I'm pretty sure that the way the man slumped isn't normal, so from that point the dealer should have been alarmed.
Anyway, I guess casinos have these people around, the health professionals and stuff. It's just that the dealer didn't alert any of them at the time the incident happened.
Anyway, I guess casinos have these people around, the health professionals and stuff. It's just that the dealer didn't alert any of them at the time the incident happened.
This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events.
The story is very pathetic because a little medical attention would have saved the gamer's life. I agree that casinos should have well-equipped first aid but having an employed paramedic will depend on the size of the casino. If the casino usually has frequent customers and can afford the cost of employing one, it will be okay. But their staff you be well trained in customer relations and emergency. They should have a swift link with a hospital with an effective ambulance. Quote
On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
The most disheartening part of the story is that the client suffered a heart attack for 15munites and the staff didn't show any concern but was dealing with other players. The family might just be angry and want justice. Maybe they might be targeting profit from the judgment. I don't know what the attendant was thinking maybe he thought David Jagolinzer was drunk or on drugs. I am sure they would have offered help if they knew that he was dying. The casino is responsible if they are more concerned about profit making than the health of their customers. But if it was because of the negligence of the staff, then the law should be lenient. 
Casino is a business about game, not medical health. This is unexpected, so you can't blame the casino because of not having a doctor and a room for serious illness. If you're going to workshop and you want to repair your car, do the workshop's workers are talented in health emergency? if you're going to grocery store to buy some veggies and chips, do the grocery store's workers are talented in health emergency?
The best thing to do is call an ambulance, it's not about the place.
The best thing to do is call an ambulance, it's not about the place.
They are already prepared with any kind of (First Aid Kit)
But, do you know? most of the kit is only for the common case. Cardiac arrest (heart-attack) is not really a common case (it's really rare to be happening) and most of service provider is also are gonna to provided the same things that casino provided.
They are ready, for any kind common issue because that was the most they're facing.
I think when you enter into reputable casinos, it’s already given that they are also prepared to extend their emergency help in times of unforeseen incidents. However, you are right, having a cardiac arrest is not a common case as it’s very serious that needs immediate medication from health professionals. So if you think you have heart problems, be sure to take your maintenance medicine first before you gamble in casinos. That way, cases like this will be avoided and should not put the blame into the casino management. But, do you know? most of the kit is only for the common case. Cardiac arrest (heart-attack) is not really a common case (it's really rare to be happening) and most of service provider is also are gonna to provided the same things that casino provided.
They are ready, for any kind common issue because that was the most they're facing.
the casino should already have a first aid kit as a treatment measure for unexpected things, because that is the most basic thing for any entertainment venue. but cardiac arrest is an illness which is difficult to be treated by first aid kits, it requires further treatment by the medical team and places like casinos may not have the ability to handle this. it seems that this really is an incident that the casino doesn't know about, because logically if it were known by the casino they would definitely contact the hospital to be able to get medical help as soon as possible.
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A man experiencing cardiac arrest and who later died was slumped over a blackjack table at Wynn Las Vegas for more than 15 minutes while the dealer continued to deal cards to another player, according to a wrongful death lawsuit filed this week in District Court. David Jagolinzer, an attorney from Florida, was staying at the Wynn when he suffered a cardiac arrest on April 6, 2022, while playing blackjack on the casino floor. The dealer at his table continued to deal while Jagolinzer was slumped over, according to a complaint filed Thursday.
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/
https://www.reviewjournal.com/crime/courts/lawsuit-dealer-continued-to-deal-with-man-slumped-over-during-cardiac-arrest-2731495/
This happened in 2022 and although I do not know the outcome of the court case, my thoughts are that the discussion about casinos should go beyond security measures to cover how prepared they are in the event of a health emergency . I think that well-equipped First Aid Kit and trained paramedical staff could significantly contribute to ensuring the safety and well-being of casino patrons. Although casinos are primarily places where people go for entertainment and profit, the operators should put in place health emergency measures could potentially mitigate the impact of unforeseen events. On the other hand, I would argue that the family of the deceased is trying to obtain money from the casino. Do you think the casino is to be blamed?
I think the casinos are already equipped for emergencies but they cannot do anything if somebody has an cardiac arrest and God forbid dies there,there is nothing the casino can do in such scenario.Of course I agree that more should be done in order to achieve better responses to emergencies like having a doctor there for any case, like a cardiac arrest that is not fatal but leaves the person stunned and the doctor should intervene, it is not enough to have a first aid kit in such scenario.
Aside from having a stand-by doctor, the casino should also have a stand emergency van to rush such cases to the hospital, because if you look closely into this case, even though the man's death happens so fast, due to the nature of his heart attack, but the action of the dealer to have neglected the gamblers instead of raising alarm for some others helping hands even if he needs to continue with his business. So having a stand-by van to move emergency in public utilities such as a casino is most appropriate for this kind of incident.
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