Topic: [CFNP] Mixin Safe - Decentralized Bitcoin Custody Solutions | Review Campaign - page 6. (Read 6837 times)

                
My Review


          Downloading Mornin key
Firstly I started with downloading the mornin key. I discovered that to download the app was very easy but the app doesn't support low memory android phone. This makes it uneasy for everyone to access,my phone couldn't open the app and I have to use my sister's phone to download the app and registration was easy. A 12 seed phrase will be given to you and you have to put them to open your mornin key.

Suggestion: It will be better if the dev can make the mornin keys app to be flexible to all kind of  andriod phones,either high grade or lower grade,just like the mixing messenger that is easily accessible on any type of andriod phone.

      Downloading the mixing messenger.
The download was easy and fast,after that I was asked to register with my phone number which I did and a confirmation code was sent to me through me through my phone number, this is what you will use to complete your registration. After that you have yo setup a security pin which you are asked to put in four times before it will be confirmed. The next step is to add your contacts either from your phone book or by adding the persons mixing messenger I.d number. In my messenger when I wanted to add one contact,I discovered that I already have one contact that was added automatically because I have his phone number. It was very easy to add contacts,I only add one contact to as my emergency contact since it is a muti-sig wallet.
Suggestion: The idea of using phone number to register is not safe,so it will be better is emails are used instead of phone numbers for privacy.

  Creating the mixing safe wallet
You need to go to the mixing safe site and use your mixing messenger to scan the QR barcode which will automatically log you in.



                To Subscribe
I used the long process unknowingly to me that there is is short process. I transferred $8 to my morning keys bitcoin address from my electrum and after I confirmed the funds in my mornin key, I connected my mixing messenger with my mornin key by scanning the QR barcode on my messenger and it was done successful. The fund reflected on my messenger, i used my mixing messenger to subscribe to a $2 package,which was by following the directions and changing usp to btc for payment.

            















Next was connecting my mixing messenger to my mixing safe wallet so that I can get my btc address of my wallet and after that, I got my btc address,I thought that I could use the balance of $6 in my messenger to fund my safe wallet but it was impossible because the transaction fee is very high. I wasn't happy with it because I will not be able to withdraw it anymore.

                



Suggestion : The whole process is complicated for a starter and if there can be a tutorial video to assist new users so that they don't get discouraged on it. Also,I will like it if users can transfer funds from the mixing messenger to his/her safe wallet with a low fee based on the amount that you are transferring.

                


              Funding my mixing safe wallet
I decided to deposit the sum of $4.9 worth of btc to my safe wallet btc address using my electrum wallet and this was fast and easy.


            









             Withdrawal.
To withdraw is very easy but you need to pass through a maximum security process that you must need the assistant of your emergency contact. First,you have to use your mixing messenger to scan the QR Barcode on your safe wallet,which a notification will be sent to your emergency contact for his approval on your transaction. Next is to use your mornin key to scan the QR code of your safe wallet before your withdrawal will be approved. I like the safe wallet  because the withdrawal fee is free and I was astonished at that.

                


Conclusion
I love the security aspect of the wallet,which makes it impossible for someone withdraw your funds without the your concept and your emergency contact.
I like the features of the mixing messenger as you can chat with your contacts and also send btc to your contact by just clicking on his name. It is done in 3 seconds.

DATE: 29 JULY 2023
MIXIN REVIEW BY THESPIRAL

I heard most of the time about online saving private keys but I was thinking that it is not best to save online. I was thinking that storing in hard copy is much better but after reading the full procedure and stories of Thosmas (locked 220 million) and other people who lost their phrase words.

Website:
Domain date of creation and expire


 Website designing is best one i looked so for and everything is clear. Website could ne easily browse in Smartphone and PC without any limitations. All project details and features available in main page. I hope , by visiting once no question will be raised in mind. The first thing that caught my eye is to check the Prices so here are my thoughts and recommendations.


Pricing:
Three kinds of packages available and cheaper one is standard package (100$) while two other packages are Elite (1000$) and Prosperity (10000$) respectively.

I accept that the price is cheaper than many other platforms asking for a big fee but still I think it will be better to give a bonus (25-50% off or payback) to early users which will attract more users because at the start our first priority is to gain more users.

GET STARTED:
On the website i clicked on "Get Started" with thinking to start the process. there I found full process of Safe mixin with full screenshot step by step. at the last bar code appears to scan from smartphone.

Official website has link to download Mixin messenger and link direct me to to Playstore.

This ia first app used for sign purpose and our member key saved here.

 Installation:
Downloading and installation process is very easy and nothing different from other apps, I downloaded from playstore.

Signup:
The signup process needs a mobile phone number. we can use virtual numbers too but i think own phone number is more secure due to less chance of lost. code arrived through sms in 5 seconds. entering code direct me to dashboard of the app as there no other setting to do at the start.

Creating PIN:
we have to create a six(6) digit PIN after successful registration to further use app. This pin would be used for accessing Mixin wallet. everytime we open wallet, we will enter Pin first. This pin also used to recover app if we lost our phone number.


Setting:
we can change theme, profile setting, add emergency numbers amd other options here,  i will discuss one by one.

=> We can change the limit of sending messages and adding in groups to  everyone or only contact.
=> we can change finding us with phone number to everyone, contact or nobody
=>  we can sync all phone contacts by uploading contacts.
=> we can change PIN number in setting too.
=> we can change phone number in setting
=> we can delete our account if we not satisfied with up or any other faced any issue.
=> we can change the text size, chat background and theme too.

Emergency Contact:
we can add emergency contact in setting too. This is a very important step which will give us access to recover our account of our phone number lost.

Adding contact:
adding contact is very easy and we have two options to search contact: by phone number and by unique Mixing ID

Chat:
we can chat with our contacts and i enjoyed it with lot of options available. we can send text message, voice message, image, smileys, gif, location, contact , voice call and camera option available too.

we can send wallet fund to our love one from chat option by clicking on plus button and then click on transfer. sending Fund to Mixin contact with Mixin id is totally free and we can enjoy this.

Wallet:
Mixin wallet is used to receive,store and send crypto tokens. All big tokens and big networks available. deposit and withdraw function is very easy and same kind of options which we used in other crypto wallets. one function is added which is to send crypto to contact which increase the security and delivery fund with fast speed without paying any fee.



Scanning:
Scan option is available too in Mixin messenger startup menu which help us to login in desktop as well as payment signin.

The second app which is used for Mixin safe is Mornin. This is not Mixin official app but secure app use for saving one member private key. Playstore has paid version and we have to pay small fee and we can download APK files too which is free.
Installation and signup process is very easy and we have to save twelve words Phrase key.

i open official website and then clicked on Sign In. Now the first step is to login through Mixin messenger required scanning bar code. scanning code is very easy and safe mixin logged in successfully very fast.

Creating Safe:
In Creating Mixin safe these step is required
1: Mixin messenger with some contacts
2: Hardware, Bitcoin core or Mornin(software wallet)

I already discussed these two steps and I am now fully ready to create my first safe

Creating a First Safe wallet:
Creating save required multiple step and its not easy to make without reading proper "Get started courses". When I click on create a new safe , i have been given a window to give my name to my safe because we can create multiple safe so when we give names to every Mixing safe , it will he easy for us to select required Mixin Safe for view balance,deposit and withdraw.

Next we have to select a number of members for signing. we can add maximum 5 members and Signin of two of them will be enough to approve transaction. Without signing of two members, no one can withdraw fund even if anyone get access to private key. This is extra security provided by Mixin to make their security strong.



There is the option of adding only own mixing safe sign approval and for this purpose we will select "One Member"

In the next step we have to signin through Mornin app using bar code. This step is easy but we have to need two device( one for bar code and other for scanning). If we open the web on a PC then we can easily scan through mornin app.

New private key is created in Mornin app and we can easily checked out key by clicking on reveal private key but we cannot make transaction with this key.


In the next step we have to upgrade to proceed to final step. We have to buy any package according to our need. at this time i am just checking how it works so i buy plan which give me one one Mixin safe creation and also one time free transaction.

Buying package is very easy and we can pay through crypto and i am happy to see lot of crypto tokens available for payment. Ltc, bnb, xrp, doge are cheapest ones to proceed through. tracking is faster than my thinking and after sending tokens to the provided address the website tracked my transaction quickly and upgrade immediately.


Now last step is to activate Mixin safe wallet. for this step we have been given bar code and we have to just scan through Mornin wallet. all steps done and now we can see our btc address, deposit and new transaction option. We have successfully created our Mixin Safe wallet. The whole process took one hour and i believe if i do it again, i will do it in just 10 minutes.

So far the whole process worked smoothly but not checked deposit and withdraw function. In general we check speed, tracking of fund deposit l, decentralization and customer reply when we face any problem.

Deposit:
I used Safepal wallet to send btc to Mixin safe address with default gas fee(10 Gwei). payment recieved immediately after confirmed in my wallet (after 5 minutes). This shows that the tracking deposit system is top class and it shocked me at first. deposit function is better then my expectations.
we can check total balance in main page but if we want to view specific safe balance then we have to select this safe to check number of btc.



transaction and activity option is also available where we can see history of deposit and withdraw any time.

Withdraw:
 The withdrawal function is also very fast and fully decentralized. I withdraw all btc to my Cex wallet. I received payment without facing any issue.

For withdrawal we have to click "New transaction" and then select required Safe and then amount of btc we want to send and then at last we have sign in through Mixin messenger and Mornin.

first we have to sign in through Mixin messenger. for this step I scanned bar code and this step successfully done with message in Mixin app. I added only one mixing member and only my own signin required for withdrawal. 2  or more signing will be required for added members if we add  more member.

and then last step is to signin through Mornin app and its went smoothly too and i recieved payment immediately according to cex confirmation limit .

Customer support:
The whole process went smoothly and i didn't faced no problem. This why I didn't asked any question from customer support but message chat option is available which is fast way to solve problem. In my experience message Chat support is better than mail.

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Review from: ajiz138

I'm back about the Mixin Safe review, at first I withdrew from this review because I couldn't log in using my area number, meaning that the 4 digit number sent didn't always appear in the message, but there are some people who use "online SMS recipient" so there I can log in from the Mixin Messenger app from my phone.
I again submitted this review to @Royse777 via PM and he agreed.

First - Mixin messenger

Mixin messenger is not available in Play Store for my country, this is due to restrictions but my solution is to download the APK file provided, while it runs normally during the installation and setup process until it creates a PIN and appears on the dashboard.

PIN
It takes 6 times to create a PIN password with this unique number for security combined with the wallet.
There are many other cryptocurrencies available on Mixin Messenger but I will only be using bitcoins to start depositing here.



Chat
This feature is so complete I seem to like the chat on Mixin Messenger because it's exactly the same as the chat of other platforms.
Trying to add contacts in the chat here many features of a lot of Emoji, can send files, send voice.
The Mixin team's support is quite fast, I asked for confirmation of the required deposit, they were very responsive, there is also always a notification here when you have made a successful deposit.

Desktop version of Mixin Messenger
I tried to use the desktop version to find out the features that were there, as shown in the image below that the desktop version only provides chat services, can't see the wallet like in the smart phone application.
But if someone with a chat then it's better in the desktop version, but it's back to those who like it but the features in the application are more complete than the desktop version.



Second - Morning Key

For Mornin Key it is available in Play Store but have to pay around $1 but I made that payment to create a safe at https://safe.mixin.zone/.

During the process of creating a new account > selecting Biometrics for key security > saving the Mnemonic Phrase, then performing a scan to make Mixin Safe the next process.



Third - Safe Mixin Zone

Now to this stage to access the safe, this must be with Mixin Messenger with qr-code scanning, but a little slow in the process of entering the PIN waiting to load for a few seconds then failing, I tried again with the second successfully entering the safe and starting other activities.
The failed login message was "Server is under maintenance: 502" but after logging in everything was fine. Ok next phase.



After entering the Msafe mixin I immediately clicked "new safe" entered the name and chose on the bitcoin network as the next test by scanning from the "Mornin key" and selecting the standard Upgrade Plan with $ 2 to activate it here the process is quite fast, only a few seconds only payment is complete.



After that I made a deposit of around $29 from Mixin Messenger with a fairly expensive fee of $8 (0.00028 BTC) for me this is quite expensive the Mixin team may have to lower the fee to a lower one because the bitcoin tx fee is now normal again if seen from Mempool.



After the balance is entered, it displays on the main dashboard with an upward graph, because there is only a deposit, then to try a withdrawal.



Withdraw from Safe Mixin

Withdrawal from safe mixin must be agreed with two other apps, first with Mixin Messenger and second with Morning Key. This actually maintains tighter security for those who store bitcoins and some other altcoins in the safe mixin.

The withdrawal process does not take long, I experienced no more than one minute, the transaction was completed without any fees for this withdrawal, because of the standard upgrade plan, only one free transaction is obtained, but for more upgrades, more free transactions will be made the maximum is 16 free transactions if you upgrade to prosperity more profits.

I'm trying the lowest plan to test for the first time, if it's safer and I like it then I'll try the higher plan again.



Support chat in safe mixin
I tried to communicate in this support chat to ask further questions that I don't know what should be, they can explain in detail and are also able to respond faster, maybe if there are complaints from you or something that needs to be asked then this support chat can help what the customer needs.
Satisfied with chat safe mixin support.

Conclusion

The initial experience in safe mixin was quite complicated because I had to understand several other combinations that had to be combined with 2 other applications (Mixin messenger and Mornin Key) but the experience here was quite enjoyable because I could test what I felt.

The advantage here is that saving funds is quite safe in the safe mixin because it is designed in such a way for security that they have to agree from two applications to make other transactions. I think this is safe enough from a security level for them to store assets in a safe mixin.

Lack; for some people it may be necessary to understand how to use it which is a little complicated especially for beginners, actually there are many that can be connected to the safe mixin, starting from Bitcoin core and Ledger, but the most common is the application provided this is the choice where they like can run as they wish.

Even from Upgarde, this must be extended every year and the PLAN variation to be chosen, this method is indeed quite burdensome but the safe mixin believes that what they apply in its features is better security.

That's a bit of my experience in testing Safe Mixin and others.

Bitcointalk username: Faisal2202

Mixin Name: Faisal2202
Mixin ID:41181685

Owner Wallet means ---> My main Wallet either its Mixin Messenger or Mixin Safe
Member Wallet Means -->My alternative account to test features. It is used in both Mixin Messenger and Mixin safe

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I downloaded Mornin Key first as i when clicked on the "Get Started" button on the website it asked me to download the Mornin Key App. Then i downloaded the Mixin Messenger app made an account then with the help of Mixin Messenger i opened up Mixin Safe. Then i upgraded the Mixin Safe by buying the 2$ plan. Oh, i forgot to add, i also added members/contact in my Mixin Messenger in order to increase security. Then i made a transaction on Mixin Safe then took Withdrawal from it in my Mixin Messenger Wallet. Then i tried to send and receive money from my Owner Mixin Wallet to my Member Mixin Messenger wallet.

• I will try to focus on problems and errors but will not forget to mention the procedure i have gone through.
• I will share step by step experience of this platform.

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Well, Mornin Key is just a Key manager which i downloaded at start of the review. I didn't bought it, as from the main page i could download free APK, So i went for Free APK. Then i thought i may not come to use it but when i made Mixin Safe there i have to use Mornin Key app. I scanned the QR code provided during the Mixin Safe Activation. I think i used this app 2 times there.

My experience with Mornin Key App was smooth, i didn't faced any issue while downloading, and using it. App worked smoothly in my Android Phone.

• I liked the Dark Mode feature as it is mostly preferred by many users.
• I could also change the security type to access the app. At start i used fingerprint then i changed the setting to 6 digit Passcode.
• I could easily add and remove extra accounts in Mornin Key app

Recommendations

• I hope if the Password and fingerprint (both option) works/avail together. For example, when i open my trust wallet (i could not remember of any other example) i have two option i could also type my passcode and also use the fingerprint option.

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After downloading and setting up the Morning Key App, i start to find some guide from official platform And found one. So, according to guide, i have to download Mixin Messenger, so i simply downloaded the app for free from Play store (for Android). Then i started to set it up, i have to give a phone number in order to receive a OTP, which was quite difficult for me to get so i have to call my relative so i could use his number to receive the OTP (my relative is out of country). So, after getting the OTP, i logged into the app then made/activated my wallet. Where i have to give 6 digit passcode like 4 to 5 times. Which is a good step. After doing this my Mixin Messenger was set up.

Then, i started to explore all options available there.

• I really liked the feature of asking for Passcode after some intervals to log into wallet of Mixin Messenger. Because in this way i could easily remember it. ^A
• There are numerous features in Mixin Messenger app, on which i am so satisfied. Like i have all the "Privacy", "Security" Options. I could see the logs, change the pin and number. i could add Emergency Contact too. Which is quite good.
• "Notification and Confirmations" Features is so good for merchants. Because whenever they will receive a payment of "X" amount they will receive notifications. Which is not so unique but comes handy during quick buying and selling.
• We can easily backup our chats which are also encrypted by end to end. That's also a good point.
• Customization of Mixin Messenger is also easy and there are numerous number of "fiat" options to select.

Adding Emergency Contact
The procedure was smooth, all i have to select a member from my contact list and then hit confirm option to receive OTP (that i will receive in other account/member account). Which came very fast, i input the OTP and verified that account as my emergency account. It was smooth like butter. Note* I added both my personal account and my member/relative account in emergency contact with each other.
Recommendations

• As 6 digit wallet passcode/pin is not recoverable due to TIP security protocol. So, there comes "Emergency Contact" feature handy. But i might not know about this feature if i didn't tested the whole features. So, it would be a good gesture if you would recommend new users to enable it by giving them a reminder Notification just after they set up the Mixin Messenger App.
• After clicking on the "Phone Contacts" option we are asked for giving them the permission which is a good thing. But After that we could not minimize that tab. I thought it would be open as Tab. And there was no search option available too. To search the required Phone number by name. I had more than 600 phones numbers so, it becomes so difficult for me to select one from there and send invite. Although i can also send invite directly from the image shown at number 3. But If you have provided this option then a search bar must be there to search the required number and this tab will be better if could be minimize or maximize with need.

• After setting up Mixin Messenger, i have to connect it to Mixin website to Activate Mixin Safe. Well, during connecting, there was a small pop window which comprised of agreements and rules etc. But the issue is, there was 2 pages to swipe left/right. I only could swipe left/right by clicking in the green area. It would be better if you could also allow to swipe L/R by clicking in the Red Area too.

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After scanning the code on "Login Page" from Mixin Messenger app, i logged into Mixin Safe. First of all, i was attracted to read a red background notification bar which can not be closed. Well, then according to the guide, i clicked on the "safes" option, then add safe, during the activation of safe, i didn't encounter any problem. The procedure was smooth as butter. Here are some pics to activation pics. And just to add, for buying the plan of 2$ i choose cryptocurrency as payment option and selected the "Matic" Coin for payment. The fee was almost near to zero.

Recommendations

• The red background notification bar is a little bit annoying, so there must be a close option available for it too.
• The networks are only two --> (BTC and LTC). Which are few only even if the app is new there must be more options available.

Now after activating the Safe, i made a transaction. I used TW to send 9 dollars (0.0003 BTC) to Mixin Safe. As the minimum Amount is equal to 0.0001 BTC. So, just in case i transacted 0.0003) BTC. As the amount was lesser so does the fee. So, it took some time to be confirmed like maybe 10 to 15 minutes. Well here is the transaction details --> https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/56ecfd12c678abbef462fd9942eaffb93ecd95d5a0fdbdc396aa32ad693f34a4?from=trustwallet


Well, then i tried to withdraw this amount of BTC into my Mixin Messenger app.
The process was very simple, even though i was trying multisig feature for the first time. Here is what i did. I simply clicked on the "New transaction" feature, filled the recipient address which i copied from my Mixin Messenger wallet. After filling the information, i have to confirm the transaction from the member i added for multisig. I received a message as shown in the pic on my member's Mixin messenger app. I then signed on to the Mixin Safe Dashboard on new different Browser. Signed the transaction from Member's dashboard. Then i came back to owner's dashboard of Mixin Safe and approved the transaction from there. The experience was fun and really easy.

While filling the details for withdrawal.

When i filled the details i have to confirm the transaction from member's dashboard as i aforementioned i received a notification in my Member's Mixin Messenger app from there i can easily know that other party is making transaction. To confirm the transaction, i logged in to Mixin Safe from Member's side then i have to go to "Transaction" section. There i see the same transaction i made from my Owner account well, then i clicked on it and scanned the QR code from my Member's Mixin Messenger app to confirm the Transaction. Which was so easy to do.


Well, then i have to approve the transaction from the Owner's Safe account, where i have to use the Mornin app scanner to scan the provided QR code. Which really enhanced the security. Well, after doing that my transaction was given the status of Confirmed on Mixin Safe's Transaction detail page.
But it yet to be confirmed from the receiver's end. As only 3 confirmations are required there. So, after 2 hours my transaction got confirmed and reflects in my Mixin Messenger Wallet.

I also tries to Send money from one Mixin Messenger wallet to another Mixin Messenger Wallet.. I used my own personal account (owner account) to send 0.0003 BTC to Member's Mixin Messenger Wallet. The procedure was so smooth and transaction reflected into member's side wallet in no time. (like within seconds). It was so fast and smooth. All, i have to choose a contact or a address to whom i wanted to send money. I first added address then i tried sending through Contact address. Here are the results.
Recommendations

• You should add a maximum button there which could instantly fill the amount bar with maximum amount, so that we don't have to write it down manually. Because that way it will be time saving and will be quick.

As you can see the amount i had in wallet was lower than the transaction fee so i delayed this step and will do when the transaction fee will be lower. But i think that is not necessary to do. I want my some amount to be in this wallet.

Note* I already made Sending and Receiving Transaction in Mixin Safe and in Mixin Messenger wallet.

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1. I think you guys mistakenly replaced the Description of following highlighted stories. Because in the title on says "James Howells 7,500 BTC" While in the description the name and the amount is not matching with the title. Same goes for the second story. I think you guys have replaced the story description with one another or if it's not the description then the Title is misplaced there. I recommend you to correct it.

2. While i was depositing BTC on my Mixin Messenger wallet, there i came to see an option of guide of "depositing money on Mixin Messenger Wallet" that guide was useful but in one pic you wrote "Click the wallet icon at top right corner" While the wallet Icon is at the Bottom Left Corner. I think that's a mistake too and you guys should correct that too.

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First i contacted in "Team Chat" with my issue of not getting deposit in Mixin Messenger Wallet. A bot (i doubt) replied me with some links of "How to deposit in Messenger Wallet" then i type i wanted to talk with some real person. Then a real person reached me, actually it was not an issue from Mixin side instead the network was so congested that my transaction stuck in there for like 2 hours. Well, this was the first time my transaction got delayed this much so i was worried. And contacted them in Chat. My experience with Support chat was very smooth they were fast and very friendly and handled me like a lady. That's a good point which shows there enthusiasm towards this great project.

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The overall, experience was very smooth i tested many features and they went smooth even i found some mistakes in the Website which i already mentioned, and i also suggested many recommendations according to my experience with other apps. Which i think must be included in yours too. On the other hand, it was fun to use the platform. Even if the procedure looks difficult and hard but once i started it.  It turns out to be fun and all i have to face is to get another Smartphone which was difficult to get so i have to bribe my younger brother to get his phone (that also costed me 0.35$ to buy him Shawarma). But this is not a big issue when you will send someone invite link it will become there headache to get register. So, overall experience was good and platform has great potential. Because, Security Key in Mornin key app is placed in another device, Mixin Safe in is my Laptop and if we manage to install Mixin Messenger in another device too then the comptonization of one device will not effect your wallet as other devices are also needed. And even if hackers find a way to compromise all three devices they can not pass through every 6 digit passcode and multisig feature made that impossible.

I hope me review will be of use to you, and thanks for allowing me to test this platform on such lower rates. Best of luck Mixin Safe.

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Bitcointalk Username: Latviand

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The steps on how to set up is pretty straightforward to my taste which is nice because it makes sure that you're not getting lost in the process from the get go. My recommendation for this is to part is that they should create a link with video tutorial, makes the process easier for most people since they can see how the process works. I don't recommend using Mornin Key as your wallet as it doesn't have the same Scan the Gallery^[1] for screenshotted QR code like Mixin Messenger^[2], you will need two devices so it's a hassle for me and also, if you are a cheapskate like me, you can download Mornin Key's APK so you don't have to pay for their app in the Playstore.

• Mixin Messenger UI/UX
  The UI is overall not that bad in my opinion, I'm a fan of minimalistic styles of websites, the buttons are where you expect them to be, I'm still adjusting to the loss of burger menu style for options being replaced by my Mixin Messenger profile to access the settings. I like the triple password confirmation for the setup of the password, I am sure that I won't forget that 6-digit number anytime soon. I probably recommend having some sort of tutorial for navigating the Mixin Messenger, I think people are overestimating how smart people are sometimes.

• Mixin Messenger Chat
  I don't see anything different with other messaging apps out there when it comes to the chat function, just like Telegram although the reminder that it has an end-to-end encryption is a nice touch but I wouldn't say that it's a game changing feature. I like the support bot of Team Mixin though, it helps that people follow your guidelines and what better way to do that than to have them see that message first.

• Contact Page/Settings
  There should be like a tooltip in the QR Code of Receive Money, I don't see any USD or local currency in my Mixin Wallet so I don't know what I should send in it, money when it comes to crypto is a tad bit confusing for me, I don't like losing my funds if I can prevent it. Regarding adding contacts, I think you should group the Phone Contacts option with the other two, it's not that different from adding contacts in the Mixin Messenger. No problems with the settings, maybe moving the Mixin Messenger Desktop to the Scanner as an option.

• Mixin wallet
  Pretty straightforward UI for a wallet, I like the adding of address and having a list of addresses that you've previously sent your funds. The only recommendation I have for this is adding more cryptocurrency options to choose from, I don't know if it's because it's beta test but there should be a slider as to how much you should be paying for your transaction fees, I am not paying for a 20 USD tx fee just to send 3 USD to my safe if you catch my drift.

Now we're getting to the juicy part. The safe creation is pretty smooth for me, the problem is Signing in to the Mixin Safe in my browser, for context, my phone was stolen a few weeks back, you need 2 devices to sign in to the Safe which in my opinion is a bit of a hassle since not everyone has 2 or more devices, also worth mentioning that the sign in is confusing because you don't log in where you scan your QR Code which I think is odd, shouldn't you be able to log in where you used your scanner, right?

• Mixin Safe Browser UI/UX
  The UI of the website in my Google Chrome browser is unresponsive so I have to tick the Desktop Mode in the Google Chrome browser, it should be able to adjust to the size of the device (phone). You can't even add safe when the Desktop Mode isn't on because of how unresponsive the UI is.

• Mixin safe deposit and withdrawal
  I deposited 0.0001 BTC to test it out, the tx fee is just too much at my first attempt to deposit so I have to wait it out another to see if the tx fee will go down and it did by a lot, from 20 USD worth of tx fee to a measly 7+ USD, I'll probably have the same recommendation as the other reviewers, and that we should be able to set how much tx fee we are going to pay especially if we don't mind how long it will take for the transaction to materialize. Transferring the bitcoin from your safe to a different address was a hassle for me but I guess that it's a security and I just refuse to believe it, maybe I was irritated by the GIF style QR code to display 3 QR codes for confirmation

Even though I had a hard time in some steps, everything went smoothly for me as I took it slow with each process. On a personal level, I wouldn't recommend it at all unless you are handling multiple funds from different people and they expect you to make sure that that money is safe in your hands but if not then it's a 50/50 since anyone can safekeep their bitcoin pretty well already. But if you're a business, I would recommend using this because of the safe feature, it's economically more viable for you to store here even with just their Personal tier in pricing and if you want, the Elite Level is the way to go. The multisig feature is a good thing too, probably even a government agency like the tax department, accounting and payroll unit might use this to prevent unwanted release of funds since signatures from different entity must approve the release of that said fund. Their UI is already on my good side although they have to address that issue of unresponsiveness. I would put Mixin Safe at 4.2/5

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This is my review about Mixin Safe and in this review I will describe in detail each feature of this amazing system. The review will describe everything in detail as I try to cover as much I possibly can. I will soon add the screenshots of the review because at time time I'm having some technical difficulties due to shifting to another home.

The Mixin safe website

I have visited the website of Mixin safe and the experience was quite interesting. The exact URL of the site was safe.mixin.zone, and I have visited the website using my Android based smartphone and there wasn’t a lag or delay browsing the site on that device. When I visited the website there was a button named “Get Started” and when I tapped it, I was taken to another page where the information about the Safe was shown in detail. The information include following text “Prepare Owner Wallet, Prepare Members Wallet, Set Mixin Messenger PIN, Add Mixin Messenger Contacts, Sign in Mixin Safe,” and when I scrolled down I found frequently asked questions as well. I have visited the website for sometime and after that I decided to go further and test the applications.


Mornin Key

Mornin Key was the application I used to approve my safe because I didn’t had access to complete Bitcoin core in order to install the PC version of the safe. I download and installed the APK file of the Mornin Key on my Android based smartphone. I recommend the Mixin team to make the Play Store and App Store version of the application to be free so that users would be more happy to install this application. However, for someone like me a free APK is enough to install an application.

Downloading of Mornin key

When I visited the website of the Mornin Key which was mornin.one, the website interface was similar to the Mixin Safe’s original site, and I didn’t gave further time to browse it in detail because I was basically there to download the Mornin Key. I scrolled all the way down to the bottom of the site and from there I clicked on Mornin Key option, and within a second I was taken to another page where I had the option to download Mornin Key either from Apple App Store or from Google Play Store, and when I clicked on the Play Store one I saw that the Application wasn’t for free. I have never used any paid application because I have never had any purchase on Play Store, and that’s why I revisited the website of Mornin key, and download the APK file from that page. Once the file was download then I installed it for free without any issue, and I began testing of the application.




Testing of the Mornin Key and Setting Passcode

I installed the Application of my smartphone Poco M3 pro with just 4 GB ram and there wasn’t any issue during installation, and then tapped the app icon to launch it. When the app was launched I had to create a new account and for that I clicked on “Create a new account” button and I was taken to a window where I had to write my account name. I used my Bitcointalk name for the account and then tapped the “Create” button. Soon after that I was taken to another window where I had two options “Use Biometric” or “Use Passcode”, I have selected the Passcode option, and there appeared another window where I had to set a 6 digit passcode to protect my data. I have selected the 6 digit passcode and it asked me to retype the passcode and I have retyped the passcode once again, and within a second my account was created. After that process a pop-up window appeared that asked me to “Secure the account,” and for that it had an option to select a Mnemonic Phrase. I tapped on Start button on that window and it asked me to write my passcode to unlock Mornin key, and after writing the code it gave me a Mnemonic code that I saved instantly, and then I tapped on Next button. After that it asked me to confirm the Mnemonic code and I confirmed it without any issue, and now I was ready to test Mixin Messenger.





Mixin Messenger and Setting of Pin

In order to test the Mixin Messenger I also used the same Android based smartphone, and I have gone with the same route of installing the APK file directly instead of going with the Play Store one. The installation was pretty smooth, and after the installation I tapped on the Mixin messenger icon to launch the application and it was launched without any lag or errors. Once the app was launched it asked me to write my phone number in order to create the account, and I entered my real phone number to get the verification code, but unfortunately after so many tries and waiting for a long time, I was still unable to get the code on my phone. The code wasn’t coming on my number and that’s why I decided to go with a throwaway number which was already allowed by Royse to be used during registration.  I tried to register my account with a throwaway number and I received a 4 digit code on that number without any issue but after confirming the code I found that someone has already created a mixin account using that number, and after that I tried to log out the account, but unfortunately I never found a log out button even after searing it for 10 minutes, and each time when I tried to load the Mixin messenger the account was already logged in on my app. I decided to “clear all data” of the app so that I can somehow be able to recreate another account and fortunately that worked for me. I have done the process on many throwaway numbers and most of them already were used to create an account by someone, but finally I found a number which was fresh, and I verified my account using that number.






After that I was taken to a window where I was asked to write my name, and I have written my Bitcointalk account name once again this time and tapped of next arrow. After that step I was taken to a window where I had to create a new wallet for me, and for that I clicked on continue button. After that it asked me to create a 6 digit pin, and I have written my 6 digit pin and clicked on start, and I have to reconfirm the pin for 4 times if I remember and then a small pop-up message appeared “Set PIN successfully,” and a some messages were given by team Mixin. I clicked on that tab and read those messages which were basically welcome messages, and some guideline messages.

Testing of Mixin

After that was done, I started testing the app. I first tapped on the left down icon on the app that was somehow similar to a lock type of icon, and once I tapped that then I was taken to a page where I had the option to send or receive crypto-currencies. I decided to deposit some money to test the app’s functions and out of all available crypto-currencies I went with Lite Coin as that’s the one which I always prefer because of low fees. I sent only $5 worth of Litecoin from my wallet and after 12 confirmations the Lite coin appeared on my messenger wallet. After that I added random contacts in my contact list to test the app, the contacts were added. I sent them some messages, but got no replies from those contacts.  I should also mention that I had transferred the $2 from my mixin messenger by reading the QR code of the wallet and then sending money to that wallet was easy. As soon as the transaction was completed the MixPay message appeared in my chat. After the purchase I had only $2.94 worth of Lite coin left on my account. I gave it a try to withdraw the money, but the fee was too high at $1.84 per transaction, and after seeing the fee I decided to deposit $5 more into my account. The deposit process was just like the previous one and it appeared on my wallet after 12 confirmations.
Now I tried to send some of my Lite coin to the ones in my contacts, and the first transaction I send was just 0.0001 LTC and it was sent very fast without any issues. After that I send another transaction worth of 0.001 LTC to another contact and that was sent instantly like the previous one.    





Creation of Safe

Now it was time to create my safe and for that I used my Mornin Key app to scan the QR code. I have now scanned the QR code of mixin safe from its website and authenticate the Mixin Safe Service to get access to my safe on the website. After that I have purchased the standard plan of the site which costs $2 dollars, and with that plan I was able to create my own safe. The standard plan to use the safe cost $2 dollars as of this day and may later be reduced or increased depends on the decision of the mixin, but I really recommend to reduce the cost of basic plan to $1 or even lower then that to attract new customers. After that was done and my account Samreomo was approved as a member of the case then I decided to deposit some money into the case.





                  
Connecting my safe and depositing money into it

Now it was time to approve some transactions using Mornin Key and for that I had to scan the QR code of my Safe with Mornin Key application. I scanned the QR code of my safe and approved it with Mornin Key app, and during approval I was required one again to enter my passcode, and the safe was approved instantly. After that I decided to deposit some of the Lite coin in my safe and for that I had to add the wallet number of the safe which I have added using mixin messenger once again and then I sent just 0.0001 LTC as first deposit to the site. The deposit was sent after sometime, but the fee was too high for that transaction. I just deposited 0.0001 LTC and the fee was 0.02 LTC which was quite higher than the transaction itself, and after that I decided to sent 0.02 LTC as my next transaction, and that transaction also had 0.02 LTC as fee. The fee was higher then other exchanges and that’s why I got curious that why the fee was so high as compare to the exchanges. For that reason I had to contact their Customer Care service.






Mixin Customer Care service      

Now it was time to ask some questions from the customer care service. I posted the message that why the fee of the transactions made with Lite coin were higher with mixin wallet from other exchanges? And, within few seconds I got some replies from the customer care of the mixin. They have explained the reason for higher fees, and I must say that it really made sense so that I thank them for the information they gave me. I must say that the customer service is quite good and responsive and they are always there to help you with their assistance.



Withdrawing Money from My Safe

After contacting the customer support now it was time to withdraw my Lite coin from the Safe, and for that reason I used my own Lite coin wallet address to withdraw coins into it. To do that I clicked on transactions button on my account page, and at the transaction page and I selected SamReomo safe, and after that I clicked on next button. After that the next window appeared in that window I pasted my wallet address and selected the amount that I was going to withdraw, and then clicked on the next button once again. Now I was taken to another page named summary and from that page I clicked on Create button, and I was taken to next page where I clicked on Approve button. A pop-up appeared where the member of the safe had to approve the transaction with a QR code to scan, I scanned the QR code using my mixin messenger and the transaction was approved. After that the final window appeared and at that window I also clicked on Approve button, and this time I need to scan the QR code with Mornin Key application. I have scanned it with Mornin Key and the transaction was approved, and soon it was completed. After a few minute I received the Lite coin In my wallet.






Setting Emergency Contact

Now it was time to have my emergency contact and for that I had tried on all of those contacts that I added, but none of them added me back as a friend and for that reason I was unable to add any of those as emergency contact. I was worried that how can I fulfill this requirement of the review and sudden I got an idea to create another mixin account on my brother’s smartphone, and for that I took my brother’s smart phone which had similar specs like the one I used. I created the account in the similar way that I used to create my original account. Once the account was created fully I added it as a friend by searching it with the help of its mixin id, and then I added my account as a friend on it in the same way. Now, I added this account as my emergency contact and I got the code from it and entered it to make a my emergency contact. The operation was done successfully and I had faced no issue at all. I must say that adding an emergency contact was a hard task, but still I have completed it successfully.
   
Withdrawing money from Mixin to my wallet

I decided to give mixin a try by withdrawing the money into my personal wallet. For that I have added my personal Lite coin wallet and requested a withdrawal using mixin messenger. I have withdrawn 0.0065869 worth of LTC to check that what happens, and fortunately I got my withdrawal without any issues, but once again the fee for the withdrawal was 0.02 LTC, but since I knew that why the fee was so high, and that’s why I didn’t care about that.

My Suggestion

Although the Mixin safe is a quite useful system but it needs some changes in order to be more useful for the users. The first suggestion I want to give is that the Mixin team should reduce the costs of the plans because many users won’t be happy to begin with a system that starts with $2 as basic plan. I would also advise Mixin team to make the Mornin Key app free on Play Store as well on App Store because many people don’t trust the applications that are installed from outside of the Play Store or App Store, and those people also consider such apps as suspicious. I find it okay to register an account using a phone number because most of the messenger apps also require phone verification, but still it would be better to allow the users to create accounts with e-mail address, however it isn’t necessary. Finally, I would recommend Mixin team to reduce the fee for withdrawals because the fee is very high and for those accounts who have less amount of crypto won’t be able to use it with those high fees.

Conclusion

Mixin safe is the most secure and useful safe for all those users who want to secure their crypto-currencies, and I believe that it is very important for everyone who wants high level of security. My experience with this system was really good and I have never faced any issue by using the safe. Anyone who is uses this application for one time would love to use it forever because the system is the safest one in the market, and so far my experience has been really good I must say. Anyone who loves to make their crypto safe can easily rely on Mixin safe because this thing is among the best one in the market.

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Finally after 3 days of trying to complete all the processes here's my review (I'm using 2 Android phones because one of the phones can't download Mixin Messenger):

1. Download the Mornin Key application (mobile 1) because this application is paid, so for the first time the application in the playstore costs around $ 2, there is no problem in the installation process, I pay immediately, create a passcode, username and the backup stage is not much different from the method another wallet that I have used.


2. Download Mixin Messenger on my HP 2, now this is where a problem arose apart from not being available in my homeland, requiring me to find a way to install this application for 2 days and finally, I was able to find a solution including the OTP code which was not easy. Referring to the member's solution, I used a one-time use number, successfully entered my wallet, created a PIN, and deposited bitcoins, then suddenly my account was logged out because someone else was using the number, so I was worried about the balance. which has been deposited.


3. The support feature welcomes me but it's only a bot and the online support still hasn't responded to me until now and I try again for up to 15 minutes and then I can open my wallet, the balance is still safe.


4. Received Bitcoin: The deposit process went well but it took more than 30 minutes to receive it. (no problem for transactions) Even though the first deposit was less, a fee was charged 2x the transfer fee.


5. Sending Bitcoin: here I use a second wallet to process transactions, the fees charged are quite expensive so I made a 2x deposit as mentioned above. Actually I sent it back to my own address. Due to limited balance I didn't test the multisend feature, next time I will test if I have multiple sats already.
Network fee : 0.00021
minimum withdrawal: 0.0001


6. Send and receive altcoin features: However, the effectiveness and safety of a digital wallet application can be seen from the process of sending and receiving. Because then we will judge whether the wallet is safe or not. The other features are just an additional innovation in order to provide a differentiator from digital wallets in general. For this reason, apart from sending and receiving bitcoins, I also try to make altcoin transactions such as BNB (BEP 20), SOL, Matic, Doge and what I like the most is TRX.

7. The Chat feature is pretty good, but it's really hard for me to add members because no one understands how it works so it's difficult to use this feature.
As a result, I asked for a member ID here so I could test the chat feature as a whole. This feature is very helpful when confirming delivery of crypto, so I found it very useful. Makes me not need to open through a different chat application, because having it provided will make everything easier.

8. Desktop features: Connecting to the desktop view by scanning the QR code and everything can be seen in one view is more convenient and easier to understand. After making a payment of $ 2 without fees because it's free to use Mixinpay, so if you upgrade, you can get extra services rather than free.


Conclusions and suggestions: From start to finish, each application has its own advantages and disadvantages, whether it's a problem with complicated features such as using a cell phone number that users don't like, including me having to provide a number, even if it's a one-time use number. Paid desktop features, Chat etc seem to vary but if the user is just for transactions it might not be hard to use for the casual crypto user.
My advice, whether it's good or bad, is all for the sake of improvement in a better direction. Sorry if my review is not satisfactory but thank you for giving me the opportunity to try this Mixin wallet application.

best
naira

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Installation of Mornin Keys

I was trying to download and install Mornin keys application from google play store, that time I see in google play store this application is not free it is a paid application. Since I don't have the payment option to pay in google play store, so I chose the second option and then I downloaded and installed the apk application of mornin key which was added in the mixin safe website. After installation everything went smoothly, then I was asked to add a 6 digit password, after adding the password I saw my mnemonic phrase. I copied the password and mnemonic phrase and saved it in a safe place.
 
Installation of Mixin Messenger

I easily downloaded Mixin messenger from google play store and installed it on my phone. But while setting the phone number created problem, because the 4 digit code was not sending to my number in any way. I don't know if other members are facing same problem like me. The 4 digit code didn't come to my phone, so I had to wait an extra 24 hours. After repeatedly failing to get the PIN with my local number, I then had success using a virtual number. Here I think to get the code, it also depends on the country where the user is located. Mixin messenger has many features, the most notable of which is that mobile number and mixin ID number can be added to the user's contact, and group chat can be done after creating a group. So anyone can create community using Mixin messenger. Another good move is that one user can send money to another user using Mixin ID number which is really a useful feature.


Wallet

When you enter the wallet, you will see a list of names of many crypto currencies chains that are popular among crypto users, and there are many currencies that I don't even know about, you can send and receive all those currencies using mixin wallet. I have only done bitcoin transactions using this wallet. All the transections I performed were done without any problems.


Wallet Fees

I added 0.00136896 Btc to mixin wallet for payment and deposit to mixin safe. After adding funds I paid mixin plan upgrade fee from mixin wallet and it was done without any fee. But when I go to deposit in Mixin safe I see the withdrawal fees of mixin wallet is 0.00025 BTC which is very high compared to my wallet funds, I paid $7.3 fee to withdraw $30.7 which is very high. So I think using mixin wallet to transact small amount of funds will be very expensive which will be difficult for normal users to afford. After adding such high fees it will be difficult for mixin wallet to beat the rest of the competitors in the market and take itself to a bigger stage. So the team should decide on these fees, and set acceptable fees as a wallet.


Sign in Mixin Safe

I was able to smoothly login to the mixin safe website using the https://safe.mixin.zone/start link on my laptop by scanning the QR code. Since I had two devices mobile phone and laptop, the login process in mixin safe was very smooth for me, but when a user goes to login using only one device, especially a mobile phone, that user may struggle to access mixin safe.

After sign in done I see this interface all options came in front of me to move to next step, I found very user friendly UI which will be easy to manage everything.


Upgrading Mixin Safe Plan

After I clicked to upgrade plan to standard I was transferred to the mixpay.me website, after coming to this website I found that there are different payment options. Since I had bitcoins, I went to make bitcoin payments and very easily paid from mixin wallet and it was successful in few seconds. I did not think that the payment can be made so fast, but I made the payment very fast and upgraded my plan.



Deposit and Withdrawal

Creating Safe

I have to create multisig safe to get deposit address. I easily created my safe using the Mornin Key option and got the deposit address. This process was also easy.


Deposit

After creating safe and getting bitcoin deposit address, I deposited bitcoin from mixin wallet to mixin safe. I only had to wait as long as it took for the bitcoin network to confirm as I saw bitcoin added to my mixin safe account quickly after the transaction was confirmed. So after creating the safe and getting the bitcoin deposit address, everything can be easily controlled there.



Withdrawal

New transection has to be created to withdraw from Mixin safe. And this process is also a very good idea in terms of security. Because it will not be possible to take withdrawal without owner's approval. So I added new transection from mixin safe and it was confirmed quickly, after a while I checked my own wallet and found that the funds withdrawn from mixin safe were added to my wallet. So it can be said that there is no problem with deposit and withdrawal from Mixin safe, at least I did not face any problem during my testing process.



Conclusion:

Mixin safe is a highly secure platform as authorization is required everywhere, thereby keeping a user's funds safe. Due to the multisign withdrawal mechanism, it is not possible to withdraw without the approval of the main owner of the mixin safe account, so it can be said that a user's funds will be completely safe with mixin safe. But there are some negative aspects, I don't see it as a good thing to make personal information like phone number mandatory to join mixin messenger, because crypto users are always very careful about their personal information. So I think if the team added some other option instead of phone number, it would have saved crypto users from sharing such sensitive personal information and would have been more interested in using this platform.

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Preface and Mornin Key:

About the reviewer: Average user. Certainly not tech savvy levels but have been in the bitcoin space for a couple of years now. I will be using an old spare phone with second space feature + disposeable numbers

I started by checking the user guide mentioned on the OP. As I don’t have any of the wallets mentioned, I went with Mornin Key.

I used the following as my main guide
https://support.mixin.one/en/article/how-to-use-mornin-key-to-create-mixin-safe-1u1rf36/
https://safe.mixin.zone/start

I installed the apk because that was the easiest route for me. I must admit, I’ve never heard of Mornin Key before so when I saw “Prepare Owner Wallet”, I was expecting a typical crypto wallet but it did not look like one. After some quick digging, it appears it’s a password manager that could store private keys and act as a signer (cmiiw).

Mixin Messenger:

(Note: this bit is more of a help center feedback but I thought I’d include this here to not break the flow).

Next up is installing Mixin Messenger. Because there is a category called “Mixin Messenger” in the help center, ofc I’d view it! Unfortunately, there are only two articles and one of them is broken, see: https://archive.is/gEhRR

On Installing Mixin Messenger article, they forgot to mention a mobile app is still needed for desktop apps which was indicated here: https://mixin.one/messenger

Their help center is obviously bare bones - lots of stuff are missing, the guides aren’t beginner friendly/not as fluid, and there could be typos. I can only guess it’s because it’s pretty much at its first stage when it comes to work progress hence I would suggest indicating such as a precaution and perhaps try to redirect people to your live chat to compensate.

Moving on to the actual app:

I noticed the app relies on phone numbers a lot – registration and emergency contact – which honestly, I’m not a fan of. Emails are just better as they’re a lot more flexible. For instance, it’s pretty easy to setup one email dedicated for a single or couple of services so it’s easier to jump ships when something goes south ++ we could secure our email account with totp/hardware 2FA as a lot of providers have this.

After registration, next step is to invite members. The process is pretty straightforward but I thought to just try and key-in the user’s Mixin ID and it went fine. I tried to add my contact to “emergency contact” and had the following confirmation:



Okay, makes sense! I tried to still hit “confirm” just to see what happens and was surprised it asked me for a code but of course, no code was sent because we weren’t mutual contacts yet. Moving on, I went to my 2nd account, added the other as my contact, set it as my emergency contact, got the code and process done!

I looked into mixin messenger’s settings and was glad options for users to improve privacy and shoo nasty internet strangers were there. I didn’t like how auto-download media/documents was enabled by default though. I know malwares are unlikely on these type of files but I’d play it safe have it disabled.

Mixin Safe

According from the guide, I should now be able to make a safe! Contrary to previous steps, the article cover this one step-by-step so it was easy to follow. Hopefully, the same fashion will be applied for the rest as well! It also helped that the UI is beginner friendly. I think an average user could go through the steps just fine even without a guide article. Plus points for adding a progress section the right!

It’s nothing too big but I noticed in order to open my safe, I have to always tap the three-dotted button and hit “view”



Quality of life suggestion: double (or single?) clicking the safe should also allow us to view our safe.

Gotta say, one address per safe is certainly a drawback since it’s better for privacy to use as many.

As for the last step, I was able to withdraw pretty smoothly. I did not even needed a guide, the website was great. One thing though, I noticed some strange profiles when I was trying to approve my transaction. It would be nice if they’re more professional looking.



Ending Note, thoughts?

The setup wasn't really convenient however self help guides and in-app guides should help alleviate. Perhaps, using a wallet you're already familiar with would also make a difference e.g. for ledger users.

I also think the whole product/service could be better explained in lay man terms.

First of all, I read all the necessary information about using Mixin Safe and its advantage and I believe that if those users who lost the recovery phase with a big fund are now regretting that if mixin safe was in our time, we would not have suffered such a great loss.
All I learned about Mixin Safe on their website is that the whole systems use three private key processes in which two keys will store by the user while one key will be stored by Mixin. Hardware wallet or mornin is used to save one key while family members who approve transactions store another while the third key will be stored by the mixin team and will be only unlocked when the address remains inactive for one whole year.


I opened the Mixin site on my desktop and there was a tutorial with an image of the setup Mixin safe. From this tutorial, I concluded that I have to use two other apps also(the Mixin app and Mornin app).

Mornin:
This app is used to keep up our privste key and also when we create safe and withdraw we have to sign in in this app too. I download apk file and intall it. at start i have given phrase key to save in safe place and this is all and nothing other to do. This app is quiet easy to use and no need of any mail or phonr number to register. we can also use ledger or other hardware for this purpose.

Mixin:
I search for the desktop app but unfortunately, It's not available yet for a desktop and I have to use a smartphone to download it. I used my smartphone to install it from Play Store.
after downloading I opened the app and it asked for a phone number, by putting in the phone number 4 Digit pin code arrived in 2-3 seconds. by entering the code Mixin app directed me to the main page.

Now first of all I set up a 6-digit pin and now my Mixin app is ready to give me a full view of crypto assets and other chat options. I was thinking that was enough for me and no need for using Mixin Safe but when I start Mixin Safe I recognize that I have to add family and friends contact who save the private keys. I added one Bitcointalk user and family member just by searching through uid. This process worked smoothly and I added contact in no time.

Some good features of Mixin Messenger:

This messenger gives us access to chat with friends with a lot of advanced features like sending audio voice, video, group chat, voice call, and many others.

This app has a built-in wallet with a lot of cryptocurrency available and almost all big tokens (BTC, ETH, BNN, SOL, APTOS, LTC, DASH, KSM, AVAX, Doge, Dot,NEAR AND MANY MORE). We could use this wallet for holding purposes but only the listed token will work. Sending non-listed tokens will result in loss.

We can send a token to our contact without any fee and also receive it from our friends and family just by giving them our public ID.

We could add emergency contact which will help us to log in to our Mixin account if we lost our access to phone number.

we can change the mobile phone number

we can change the text size, and theme, and the best one I like is the dark mode option available.

There are some limitations too in Mixin messenger like no email option, no desktop version for Windows and Linux, Group or channels option

Mixin Safe:
Now, it's time to check the main service. I opened the Safe.mixin.zone site on Laptop and clicked on sign option, scan the code through the mixin app, and Mixin safe opens in no time. this whole process works very smoothly without facing any issues.

Now it's time to create my first safe. As i already checked out the details of creating a safe therefore i faced no issue with it.  during creating a safe I have to sign in through mornin app which I tried without the internet but its not work which means that an internet connection is mandatory to connect with Safe.

I can select a maximum of 5 contacts for the mix-in sign in but all members should be in my contact list otherwise I cannot do it. I set only one(me) for fast but it's not secure. we have to select at least 2-3 family members for better security.

I purchased an upgrade plan using crypto. A lot of payment options are available too. I preferred trx as I was holding and the fee was also low and payment arrived as well as safe was created successfully in 15 seconds.


I have been given a BTC address and now it's time to deposit some BTC to checkout deposit and withdraw service.

The deposit function is very easy. Just clicked on Received deposit under my created safe and now I am able to scan the address and I deposited 0.00465(135$). Wonder to see that payment arrived after one confirmation which is I think very fast to track fund deposits.


The deposit is working smoothly and I have faced no issues. The speed of the deposit is very fast. Normally it arrives in our wallet after several confirmations but here it arrives after 1 confirmation.


Now it's time for checking withdraw function. I clicked on a new transaction and default safe was selected for the transaction. if we have more safe then we can also choose any safe for withdraw transaction here. after doing this process now we have to sign in through the Mixin app. This option is best to secure our funds. If anyone steals our private key cannot withdraw without our mixin signin' approval. There is a risk also if other added members are not able to sign in then we cannot withdraw our fund therefore adding members carefully. an automatic message arrive in my mixin app and will received by another member also which is best for security and awareness.



I purchased a 2$ plan where 1 transaction is free and for the second transaction, we have to buy a plan or credit for the transaction. I proceeded with the free transaction and last I have to sign in through mornin app. BTC arrived in my wallet without any issues very fast.


Conclusion:
I found the whole Mixin safe process very fast and secure and I will recommend it for every Btc and Ltc holder. This is a decentralized way to store our key and can access our fund even if we lose our key (which often happens after a long time). understanding this process is not easy and at first, it's looking a bit complicated process but after processing first then it becomes easy to be familiar with it. In a safe process, we have to sign in to different apps multiple times which is looking boring but best to secure our fund. customer support is online to help you if you face any difficulty in the process. Mixin Safe is still in the beta phase and I hope the team will overcome all drawbacks.

Bitcointalk username: Logfiles

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My review

1. Downloads and set up

Setting up the mixin safe using the mornin Key was my preferred option because;
→ There was no access to a ledger hardware wallet at the time of testing the service.
→ There was not enough resource and time to install and set up a full Bitcoin core node.

As a first timer, during the set-up process. I faced some hiccups due to the couple of apps I had to install. The instructions are not quite straight forward (You install the app or do something as per the guidelines, but you have no idea why you are even doing a particular step)

I suggest a proper documentation is made on how to set up the mixin safe, with easier to understand instructions in articles and videos for the newbies.

For example
Yes, but what is their purpose to the mixin safe we are trying to set up?


Maybe the hypertext link to the Mixin safe website should be inserted in the highlighted area so that it's a little more direct.

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2. Mixin messenger

Downloading it and setting it up was pretty straight forward, but I had a challenge with one of my mobile network providers as I was not able to receive the SMS verification code.

→ Add more ways of verifying the phone number, like an automatic phone-call. Something similar to what is on WhatsApp.
→ How about a secondary email verification for those that don't want to use SMS verification or use their phone numbers for registering?

The Mixin messenger's guidelines probably have some error, which could be misleading
It says, Coinmarketcap and coingecko suggest that there are only about 10,000 tokens. Please correct that.

Fiat Currencies
Add more local fiat currencies around the world if you pick exchange rate data from platforms like Coinbase. Cryptocurrencies are now getting known world over. Currently, the APP supports only 15 of them.

Adding contacts
The QR Code scanner looks a little out of place, maybe another QR code scanner next to Mixin ID or Phone number search box would be great
 

Setting Emergency Contact
This was straight forward, easy steps to follow with clear instructions

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3. Sign in Mixin Safe

Signing in using the QR code was easy, but I do wonder what happens if I have only one device? I was lucky to have 2 mobile phones and a laptop. What about someone with only one phone, how do they access the Mixin safe?

The Mixing safe could also do well with an option for dark mode  

Settings

Settings → General → Appearance

→ Again, very limited fiat currency options. This time only four!
→ Only 2 languages available. English and Simplified Chinese. You might need to work bringing in more Languages.

Setting up safe.
No hiccups at all, but we might need simple and detailed instructions that can help a layman understand what they are doing and why they are doing so.

I also put my computer to sleep, got back to it 8 hours later, and I just got right back into the safe's account minus any log in prompt/verification. I think security should be tightened in regard to the safe.

Pay To test

I used bitcoin as a payment option.

Under scan to pay, you should add more wallets, with emphasis on open source noncustodial wallets. For example, even with electrum, one can scan to pay.



Under payment method, you should also add an option to open in wallet like you see in sites such as bitrefill. Once you click on the button, the wallet installed in the device opens up automatically with the order details (address and amount to be spent)



I also saw somewhere that order expires in 48 hours. We know that sometimes Bitcoin transactions can take more than 48 hours to get confirmed if the fee paid is very low. What happens if the transaction gets confirmed after 48 hours? Does the service process an automatic refund?

On my test transaction, the order got confirmed, and I was redirected to the new safe page summary and also received a message on the mixin messenger about by subscription after which I proceeded to create the safe

Mysterious Recovery tab

Once I created the safe, A new tab appear (Recovery tab) With no explanation or few helpful notes in the tab, I was not exactly sure what its purpose was exactly for. I guess so many newbies will also be clueless about this.
It had some details about my safe and stuff like that, with a last transaction date from 2001! More confusion. And then when I reloaded the page, everything was gone, just like that.

Depositing

There is an error from receive deposit. Once I clicked on it, it instead redirected me to the page similar as where one is trying to withdraw from the safe.



I ended up depositing through Safes → Receive deposits (on clicking 3 dots) → Deposit address generated.
Once my deposit was confirmed, this is what I saw in my Recovery page.



I never set the lock time to 4 days, so I have no idea what happened. How one can modify the lock time, if it's even possible? What if I want 10 days or 30 days?

New Recovery
I wanted to see the guidelines, but the link took me no where. Please fix that.


I tried reading about safeBTC and I didn't understand anything. What is this?

Anyway, I just did a new recovery by holder keys method and see what happens.
Once I approved, there was not much information about what was happening next. No transaction ID, No record about the receiving address, Not many details about the transaction/activity I had just carried out. No idea whether the Bitcoin is going to appear in my address or not. And if yes, approximately after how long?

In summary, this is how the page looked like

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4. Conclusion

The idea behind the mixin safe is a great one, but the process involved in setting up the safe is tedious and does not have proper documentation. I suggest you invest a lot more in helpful articles and Tutorials, including Explainer videos.
If new users with less technical knowledge are going to use this platform. Ensure that process is precise and well to the point.
Most of the other suggestions are within my review.

Thanks for the opportunity to review your platform.

Introduction:
The home page of the website is simple and has a transparent background. The website has no registration link but it has sign in link. And I used the mixin messenger app to scan the code in the website to login. And the website can load faster in all browsers.
The process to some extent was complicated because of the use of different devices. And this made me to spend some physical cash both in transport and to borrow extra device to set up the Mixin Safe Wallet
All the processes will be breaking down for clear understanding.

The process of installation
The first thing I did was to install the mixin Messenger App in my Android phone and the app has 12.46mb which made the downloading very fast with good network. After the installation, I continued to insert my mobile phone number with the country code and I clicked the Captcha then the 4 digit OTP was sent to the number provided. And my wallet name was asked for you to continue the process. And a pop up message "Get a Net Wallet". Create a pin page appeared.

Six (6) digit pin was asked to set up and I used a very simple digit for the pin and the app rejected the pin and stated that, "the pin is too simple". So I have to used another complex digits for the pin and the pin confirmation was four times and finally the pin was successfully set. And a welcome message was send to me.

The wallet home page is just like the Trust Wallet home page which has Receive and Send with other cryptocurrencies.
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The whole problem is in the mornin key app installation. The app is not working in all the Android phone. I installed it in Techno Spark 6 Go 2020, but the app did not open. At first it shows pure white screen.
Then the second box is
And this means that the app is not compatible with all the Android phones. But the mixin Messenger App works with all the advance Androids but the mornin key app is not like that.
Installation
After the installation of the mornin key app in the upgraded version of Android Phone with 3gb and 62gb rom, I was asked to put my security passcode then "write down your 12 mnemonic phrase".

Problem I Faced Here
When the mnemonic phrase was given to me, I had two identical words as "Cupboard and Cupboard" so in the process of writing the phrase in the box, if I clicked one of the "Cupboard" the second one would be automatically highlighted so the confirmation of the mnemonic phrase was a tough time for me, and because of that I could not passed that stage. So I have to delete the first account and create new account and new mnemonic phrase and everything was successfully submitted.
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After the installation of the mornin key app, I went to the main website of Mixin Safe and clicked on the login and scan the code as I said earlier in the introduction.

Mixin Safe Wallet
After scanning the Maxin Safe Bar Code from the laptop, the both devices were successfully login and the welcome page appeared and the home page of Mixin Safe shows the total balance and other features. But I can't scanned the code in my mobile phone.

The depositing process

I deposited 0.0000665 BTC and transaction fee was very high as of the time and I was warned but I still continue the process.

After all the installations of the two apps, I made a deposit.of 0.000037 was successfully entered and reflected in the mixin Messenger App wallet.
And the balance did not reflect in the mixin safe wallet.
And also I used three (3) device this process to be successful.
1. I installed the Mixin Messenger App in the first Android phone.
2. I installed the Mornin Key app in another Android phone because it didn't opened in the first Android phone.
3. I tried to scanned the code in the website from the second phone, and after login successful from the both phones, the phone that I scanned the code shows half screen, so I could not see all the information on the screen so I have to use laptop to rescan the code and I see the full screen.

Withdrawal
After depositing the amount of 0.000037 BTC, I tried to see if I can withdraw $1 but the transaction fee was much more higher than the total amount to be withdrewn  so I left it for the main time but will still participate in the site if the fee reduces.

First the process of opening mixin safe wallet is too cumbersome. Using the three softwares for the registration all in the name of security is not recommended by me. Assuming I am alone and there is no any other devices and no any other person is available to assist me then directly, I can't open the wallet. So that Process should be reviewed by the software developers.

Secondly the transaction or network fee is too much as a new company that needs visitors. I advise you to reduce the fee.

Thirdly, you have to work on the mornin key app because it is not working in most of the Android phone like the messenger which works almost in all.

Fourthly, I recommend on the customer care service attendance, their response is very fast and okay.
Finally, frankly speaking, the process is complex.

Bitcointalk username: SmartGold01

AREAS OF REVIEW:
1. MIXIN MESSENGER
2. MIXIN SAFE
3. MORNIN KEY

Tools used:
1 Android device with 2GB Ram which I installed my Mixin Messenger
1 Android Device with 4GB Ram which I installed my Mornin Key
Reason for multiple device used: Mornin Key don't operate smoothly with lower version of both Android and IOS since it usually send an error message.

MIXIN MESSENGER: downloaded direct using the provided link from Mixin safe website:
The user interface and the appearance is humanly friendly to operate on just as some other social media apps are being used, since is stress free and it doesn't need one to be technically sound to have it set up for a normal operation and usage.

Connecting with users is somewhat a bit difficulty and differently to me while adding them to my contact list, unlike other social media where you don't need to face much difficulty connecting and adding people to your contact list.

Because basically it requires only those that has the Mixin ID to be associated with that has same mobile phone registered with on the Mixin platform. Left alone with the individual's username the search option won't work smoothly until you have to contact whom you want to add to give you the correct details used. I contacted few people from my local board to help me complete this process, succeeded adding up  about 3 contact's.



Mixin Messenger wallet: The Mixin messenger has an inbuilt wallet on it which has a default 40 different supported coins/tokens in different network. With such feature they could also be used as a wallet and not just a social chat app.

Deposit to the Mixin messenger wallet:
I used the Bitcoin receive option: I was able to deposit $2 worth of BTC into the wallet, as show on the image below: Along the process I realized the unconfirmed deposit was shown on my deposit history, unlike others which deposit only displays when they are fully confirmed both on the blockchain and also with the deposited wallet. Perhaps, even as the deposit was showing as an incoming transaction the balance was not directly and immediately reflecting on my wallet.



Mornin Key:
This is the security which would be used to protect the safe; its nearly impossible to withdraw the funds on the mixin safe without this key it's being bind with the Mixin safe
The Key is not free: Have to pay for the APP before I was able to download it from my Play store.



Mornin Key security:
It displays option either for me to allow it make use of my phone biometric or set in a new pin which could be used to execute transaction in the app.
PIN: It required for a six digit pin set up.
Phrase: It consist of 12 generated words. After the phrase generation user would be required to confirm the phrase in the next phase which is the a nice way to be sure that the phrase is securely backup.

Mixin Safe:
Steps required:
Security/Key: I choose Mornin Key
Owner's set-up: Choosed a custom name





Members: Used 3 over 2
Which I was able to reached out few individuals from my locality (Localboard), they helped me get a code from their mixin messenger in other to enable me verify them below my emergency contact list. I will cover their names for security purpose as they since they already used their forum name as mixin messenger username.



Funding my Safe: From my observation during the safe creation I witnessed only 2 network available which happens to be Bitcoin and litcoin. Along the line I had to choose Bitcoin. During the funding I was asked "allowed to deposit using Bitcoin network". I transferred Bitcoin from my external wallet to my safe address. I couldn't capture the time used for the deposit to appear on my safe as, the deposit was taken a bit longer time to move from my external wallet so, I left it to attend to other home chores coupled with my baby made me to have a divided attention of not recording how long it took to deposit.  

After some while I got a notification, when I checked back my mixin messenger that my safe has been funded. Blurred the sensitive part's



Fund withdrawal process:
Member 1 is myself (SmartGold01), I observed any of the member irrespective of which number they were being added and can approve the transaction first it must done accordingly, the only part which couldn't switched was the part where me being the safe creator will have to approve the final part of the transaction through my mornin Key.


In summary:
It took me quite some days in other for me to finish up this review, handling my daughter and husband coupled with family members who always come around and other activities are yet to be mentioned. From my experience basically, the safe is quite interesting as it has also added to my crypto knowledge in general, its as safe and a true replication of its name as it implies, those security measures are really worth it.

Suggestions: I would suggest when the upgrade is done on the safe as I can see that the mixin safe is on the beta version. The mixin team should try to render a free safe service, that's where users would try how it works, since the $2 might be lot of money to risk in some regions.
Also the Red warming at the top of the mixin safe website. If not for the sake of the review if I come across a site warning me about my deposit I might completely avoid it.

Additional payment option: Right now their are lot of network out their and every one have their preferred network of use, but the litecoin and Bitcoin network weren't enough for the safe deposit, addition for more choices should be implemented as quickly as possible so that one won't have to go through rigorous way to fund using the only available payment option to carry out their payment.

                                           My honest Review after using Mixin Safe.



                           This review tells my experience with using Mixin Safe, In terms of


1.Its Security.

2. And the wallet's overall Functionality.


 Wallet installation/ morning key :

The wallet is currently accessible in the play store & Apple Store with a provision of APK download.











Morning key :

Here I was asked to pay a few dollars to enable me to install the morning key app, having done that, this is where was provided with my


seed phrases that guarantee me full ownership or access to the wallet.




  




  





Phone number verification:

Hereafter the installation of the mixin messaging App, it required providing a phone to be able to access the wallet.


 Wallet pin creation:

In this pin creation stage,

 I was amazed to have seen that you have to pass 4 confirmation processes to ascertain you can remember your pin.
 





Supports Multi cryptocurrency :

The wallet currently supports tons of different cryptocurrencies/coins such as
BTC,  
ETH,
SOL,
BNB, etc.
Which allows users to be their bank and have total control of their funds seamlessly.
 etc.




                                                            Transaction

 

Deposit:

After the installation and setup of the wallet I had to deposit some amount of Bitcoin to test-run my new wallet,

the wallet uses a good bc1 address, and the deposit was successfully received.










Withdrawal:


I also had to withdraw immediately to ensure both deposits and withdrawals are working smoothly

and indeed the withdrawal was received in the destination wallet without any delays.

This ascertains that the wallet runs smoothly.





Touring my new wallet and Navigating its features:


1. I realized it has an option for a connected DAPPS feature where users can connect their wallets to other blockchain platforms.

2. Hidden assets feature

3. Receiving money with Mixin Id:

Users can send funds to fellow mixin users just by using using your mixin Id.



Mixin Messenger :


You can add people using their mixin id or phone numbers /contact if the person is using a mixin safe messenger /wallet.

Added some to text out his this works, It works perfectly just as other messaging apps do.




              
                                                                                             Observation,  Recommendation, and Conclusion



  2. Phone number verification :



Here is a stage I'm not too comfortable with as it overlooks privacy,  

which is Paramount in the crypto space and I suggest an alternative verification method be used to replace the phone method such as an

email verification method.




3. The multi-signature integration in the wallet makes requires multiple participants in the authorization of a transaction,  

and this feature or added layer of security makes it difficult for hackers to access one's wallet without proper approval from the

participants.  

Bitcointalk username: CryptSafe
                                                                                   MY REVIEW
A brief review of my experience with the Mixin App

First and foremost I had to read through the instructions here on the mixin service board before proceeding. After this, I saw a link that I clicked directing me to the Mixin safe website then there I saw the link to download the mornin' key and the Mixin messenger app. The downloading and installation process was not too difficult but the second phase was a bit technical and it takes one with vast experience in crypto and wallet installation to know how to handle it. This phase was the scanning of app QR codes to gain access to your personal dashboard which was a bit technical too.





Mixin Customer Care Service and Mixin Chat
The customer care service was top-notch. The representative was very fast and actively responded to my concerns and the situation at hand. I will say that from my experience and little engagement with the care support, the mixin team and organization have a good communication structure and relationship with their users. The messenger chat is quite alright as there are lots of features such as the emojis and other options made available.The message delivery was very fast from both ends and has a double blue tick to show the sender that the receiver from the other end has seen the message sent to them.




Creating of Mixin App pin

After downloading the mixing app, I had to set my login password which requires a 6-digit number and up to a five times verification input process which I find too lengthy of a process. Possibly a three-time would be okay since one has written down the pin in a safe place.

Creating of Mixin safe

Before creating the mixin safe, I had to follow the process of scanning via the app QR code from the website using my mixin app to gain access to my mixin dashboard. After doing the scanning, I got a notification on my app to have successfully signed into mixin safe. The process was quite alright but if the developers or team could make it easier for one to log in manually through a password and user ID  that would be very nice because not everyone sometimes could be free to use the QR code option.
 


Linking my Mornin key  to my Mixin safe

After I had successfully created my Mixin safe account through the QR code scanning of my wallet, the next phase was for me to link my morning key to my Mixin safe for transaction approval. This I believe is done so as to protect the holder's fund if there be any unauthorized transaction taking place elsewhere without the holder's consent. This is a very good step and a nice idea by the mixin team to have come up with such a sophisticated method to protect users' funds.


  


Purchase of Upgrade Plan
The next phase was the purchase of my upgrade plan which I needed to start the process by making payments for the grade I want. I opted for the 2pUSD option because it was the first time I was trying it out and as such  I needed to test run so as not to encounter any difficulties if I do, I would not have any reasons to bother as the funds were little and I can try out with another fund. I started by clicking on the upgrade plan option and it took me to the next page where is saw a three-plan upgrade option and I opted for the 2pUSD plan. I clicked on it and I was taken to the next page which was the payment processors with lots of payment processors and crypto payment of choice. I opted for Bitcoin as that was the available one that I can make payments very fast.

 

I made a transfer of 0.000645 BTC ($18.79) into my mixin messenger app and from there i made the payment via QR code from my app direct to my mixin safe account for the upgrade for which i choose the scan option payment vendor. The process was quite easy but confirmation process on the  mixin pay safe took time (47 minutes) before it was confirmed which is not alright. If the process of confirmation can be narrowed down it would be nice.

 



Mixin pay deposit and withdrawal

The deposit and withdrawal process was not much stressful as the process was initially as the payment gate way is already been activated  as i already did. I made payment direct from my mixing app as it was there i had the funds kept  which made it much easier for me. It was an automatic payment process as i  scanned through the QR code on my mixin safe pay dashboard although the confirmation time still remains the same but the funds got to my wallet address with mixin pay and was confirmed. The withdrawal process was easy as i had to copy and paste my wallet address from my mixin messenger app to the website then I  approved the withdrawal then the next page popped up but i noticed it kept loading for a long time without any feedback or message.





Nevertheless, i noticed i recieved  a safeBTC on my mixin mesenger app wallet of 0.0001 safeBTC with no monetary value attached so i was wondering if it could be the withdrawal that i made from my mixin safe account.

 


I noticed as well that there is no transaction option for activities table which would have better categorized the nature of the transaction which was carried out on the mixin safe pay dashboard. From the overall look, the table looks more elaborate but would be okay if the transaction option such as deposit/withdrawal is added to it.
 

General Observations

1. The fee was too high which is not normal for a small amount of transaction.
2. Long time confirmation which is not convenient for transactions.
3. There was no other means of login except through QR codes which some times might not be convenient for
    users.
4. The payment gateway and process is far too time consuming and not convenient as it would scare away users
    who have no much knowledge on crypto and wallet installations.

Possible Recommendations

1. The high transaction fee should be looked into to minimize the cost of running a transaction.
2. The long time confirmation should be narrowed down so as to save much time when conducting a transaction.
3. Possibly, the team should device another means of access into ones mixin safe account other than scanning of  
    QR codes. Email address, user ID and password would be nice.
4. The team should look into a way of reducing the lengthy process involved in activating an account with mixin
    safe pay as no one would want to spend such amount of time ding such where there are other available
    options out there for them. It would be in the best interest for the team to do the needful as regards this
    opinion.

In all, the review exercise was a bit technical and requires one with patience, vast experience and knowledge to install and carry out the process.

Bitcointalk username: TryNinja

I went through this without reading any other review or even doing too much research about the product so I could have a truly first impression. First thing is that going directly to the "Get Started" page without at least checking the "Technology" page was a nightmare and I was completely lost. I had no idea what exactly was an "Owner Wallet" or "Members Wallet", or even what the Mornin Key or the Mixin Messenger app were for. The following text will be my first impressions finding out what the heck is Mixin Safe:

What I would do is rename the "Technology" page to "How it works" or at least add a warning before the "Get Started" page indicating that one should probably read how the product works before (obviously, but I can usually learn things on-the-fly and this was a bit too much). I tried setting up everything before reading that page and I had more questions than answers:

"Do I need both Mornin Key and Mixin Messenger apps?".
"Which one will actually hold my 1/3 key? And for what do I need the other one?".

I was under the impression that the Mornin Key was my wallet for the owner key (1/3) and the Mixin Messenger was the wallet for my trusted counterparty (2/3).

Of course I later found out that the Mornin Key (owner) will hold the first 1/3 key and the second 1/3 key will actually be composed of as many users as I want through the Mixin Messenger app. "Oh, now it makes sense". Still, I wish this was better explained on that screen.

Even better, also add a small explanation on each step so people understand the basic concepts. On the first step: "Select the wallet that will control your owner's private key responsible for 1/3 of the vault"; Second step: "Your friends or trusted ones will be responsible for the second key through the mixin messenger app", etc... I think it would improve the user experience if there is a direct explanation about both apps and what they are needed for.

Some stuff from the FAQ should probably also be added next its related step itself. For example, on the "Set Emergency Contact" step, there is no explanation on what is that for (and not everybody will read the FAQ).

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Now to the process itself...

First thing is that I tried doing everything on my phone as I'm traveling far away from home and I have no computer/laptop with me. I could NOT do that as I need to scan a QR code from the login page (with Mixin Messenger) and it's just not possible to scan a QR from a phone from the phone itself (I had both the apps and page open on the same phone). Maybe add an option so the user can paste his session/code directly (I noticed the QR points to some kind of unique UUID). A few days later I found a PC on a hotel I'm staying and here we are!

Logged in with my phone, went to "Safes", created a new safe... oh, so here is where they ask for my owner wallet (Mornin Key), cool! Scanned the QR with the Mornin Key app, created a new key for my sick-vault and clicked next.

Now to add the Mixin Messenger members responsible for the second 1/3 key! First thing I disliked is that you need a phone number to create an account at the Mixin Messenger (why not allow email-only registrations?). But well, at least I got a local sim on my trip I can use as a "throwaway"...

Anyways... I remembered of a service that allows me to rent a phone number, so I reinstalled the app on my phone and created a new account to test with 2 members (me and a fake one). Added him in a 2/2 vault, paid the $2 (loved how many coins you accept and how quick the payment is processed) and when redirected back the page wouldn't let me proceed because I still needed to upgrade my plan. Waited a bit and it just moved on. Signed the vault creation approval with my owner wallet (Mornin Key) and it's done! Now time to send some coins...

Sent just a little bit since I was scared I would lose access to the second signer (the one I used a SMS rent service for). 1 confirmation later and I could see the balance on the page.

Went to the New Transaction option and tried sending everything to a new address. Cool thing that I received a Mixin Messenger notification for every step (first the deposit and now the transaction approval request). Now this is where something odd happened. I scanned the approval QR code with the app and a bunch of random "receivers" showed up on the transaction. "EOS Mapping", " Calculator", "Mornin", "Mixin Logs", and a symbol I can't type. Who were those? And I was apparently sending them 0 safeBTC (what the heck is this?). Anyways, I accepted it (because why not?) and it seems like everything worked out. Now to the second signer...

I try to login to the second signer again and the SMS rent service logged me out. Got logged in again and the number was gone (). I spent some time thinking what I would do now that I couldn't login to the second signer. "Is my $$ gone?", well at least now we know why it's important to add an emergency contact and make sure you have access to your account. Still, I couldn't stop wondering how things would be different if I could have used an email address to register the account. Some more thinking and I found out you can actually reactivate an old number by paying a $3 fee, so this is what I did and it worked!

And now all I had to do was sign a last time with my Mornin Key (owner wallet). Boom, transaction sent! Interestingly enough, looks like I didn't get any fee deducted from the amount sent (do you guys cover that?).

The product reminds me of the Gnosis vault multisig (now called Safe.global?), that even Vitalik Butterin uses to safeguard his ETH: https://safe.global

Great to see this kind of service on Bitcoin's native chain (no sidechain with solidity-like contracts). I would definitely use it if I had 7-8 digits worth of BTC (assuming I could check everything is bullet proof and 100% legit). Less than that I honestly don't think I would pay $100/year, but that's me. After understanding the entire process and what each party needs to do (and with which app), it becomes quite simple. Still, I think the UI and UX when you start (before you login) could be more straightforward and more self explanatory as it takes a bit of time to get familiarized with the process. The dashboard UI itself is great and I had no problems with that.

Here is a screnshot of me approving the tx with the almost-lost second signer, in a Windows 7 computer that I found in my hotel.