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October 11, 2014, 10:19:21 AM
#76

This thread is getting pointless, please stop adding fuel to the Fire.

Whatever the issue was in the past, it's not worth talking about.

Threads don't "sink" nor does social pressure. If I scam you, you come right back here because I promised to pay and it would look worse if I don't.

You will be paid in full, I've alredy started. If I was going to scam you I would not even be responding here or I would argue with you.

I'm not arguing, so let's both relax be professional and adults.

- Charlie


don't call this thread pointless, it is worth 50 btc to me

and please add another bolt to your statement,
a time limit on all this,


 because, what if price goes up and you end up not being able to earn or buy enough btc on the market ?

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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
October 11, 2014, 08:47:26 AM
#75
the idea is to defuse social pressure and heat with time,
to let this thread sink,
and to not pay in full after all


the btc are still not coming in, title of the thread gets heavier as time passes...

you shall know them by their deeds ?
Maybe you should just both agree to a date by which all owed funds should be paid. It seems to me you agreed to partial payment for stock with the rest to be paid as he sold them. It seems your mistake was agreeing to an arrangement you didn't like in retrospect. Perhaps you two can set a date by which all funds must be paid. This way there is no confusion from anyone if the agreement is complete or not.

it should have already been paid, long ago, that is what this thread is all about

This thread is getting pointless, please stop adding fuel to the Fire.

Whatever the issue was in the past, it's not worth talking about.

Threads don't "sink" nor does social pressure. If I scam you, you come right back here because I promised to pay and it would look worse if I don't.

You will be paid in full, I've alredy started. If I was going to scam you I would not even be responding here or I would argue with you.

I'm not arguing, so let's both relax be professional and adults.

- Charlie
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October 11, 2014, 08:10:58 AM
#74
the idea is to defuse social pressure and heat with time,
to let this thread sink,
and to not pay in full after all


the btc are still not coming in, title of the thread gets heavier as time passes...

you shall know them by their deeds ?
Maybe you should just both agree to a date by which all owed funds should be paid. It seems to me you agreed to partial payment for stock with the rest to be paid as he sold them. It seems your mistake was agreeing to an arrangement you didn't like in retrospect. Perhaps you two can set a date by which all funds must be paid. This way there is no confusion from anyone if the agreement is complete or not.

it should have already been paid, long ago, that is what this thread is all about
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October 11, 2014, 05:50:26 AM
#73
the idea is to defuse social pressure and heat with time,
to let this thread sink,
and to not pay in full after all


the btc are still not coming in, title of the thread gets heavier as time passes...

you shall know them by their deeds ?
Maybe you should just both agree to a date by which all owed funds should be paid. It seems to me you agreed to partial payment for stock with the rest to be paid as he sold them. It seems your mistake was agreeing to an arrangement you didn't like in retrospect. Perhaps you two can set a date by which all funds must be paid. This way there is no confusion from anyone if the agreement is complete or not.
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October 11, 2014, 04:11:46 AM
#72
the idea is to defuse social pressure and heat with time,
to let this thread sink,
and to not pay in full after all


the btc are still not coming in, title of the thread gets heavier as time passes...

you shall know them by their deeds ?
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October 10, 2014, 05:02:10 PM
#71
I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

It's already been explained in the thread that his understanding of the agreement was that you would be paid when he sold the coins, not when he received them from you.
-snip-
 IMO you are being -snip- greedy
This.
I have sent a PM requesting BTC payout if possible. You'll save on Fedex fees, I'll save on converting it back to BTC.


Edit: I'm not even legally allowed to send you Bitcoin as a refund, as that constitutes money transmission which I'm guilty of. I can only refund you in the way you paid which is why I offered to FedEx a bank check.

Rawted, he can't send it in BTC. 
My apologies, didn't notice the edit.
Oh the irony here. Maybe he is LE trying to trip up Charlie again. I wouldn't trust him
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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
October 10, 2014, 02:35:54 PM
#70
I have sent a PM requesting BTC payout if possible. You'll save on Fedex fees, I'll save on converting it back to BTC.


Edit: I'm not even legally allowed to send you Bitcoin as a refund, as that constitutes money transmission which I'm guilty of. I can only refund you in the way you paid which is why I offered to FedEx a bank check.

Rawted, he can't send it in BTC.  
My apologies, didn't notice the edit.

Responded to your PM.
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October 10, 2014, 02:35:11 PM
#69
I have sent a PM requesting BTC payout if possible. You'll save on Fedex fees, I'll save on converting it back to BTC.


Edit: I'm not even legally allowed to send you Bitcoin as a refund, as that constitutes money transmission which I'm guilty of. I can only refund you in the way you paid which is why I offered to FedEx a bank check.

Rawted, he can't send it in BTC. 
My apologies, didn't notice the edit.
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October 10, 2014, 02:33:19 PM
#68
I have sent a PM requesting BTC payout if possible. You'll save on Fedex fees, I'll save on converting it back to BTC.


Edit: I'm not even legally allowed to send you Bitcoin as a refund, as that constitutes money transmission which I'm guilty of. I can only refund you in the way you paid which is why I offered to FedEx a bank check.

Rawted, he can't send it in BTC. 
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October 10, 2014, 02:00:17 PM
#67

My apologies for making you post that, I didn't know about your bail conditions.

You may not remember, but you forwarded me onto a female support agent via PM because of my post on that thread sometime in april of 2013.

Again, I appreciate your offer, but I will need to think on this.

Just to confirm my choices are:

a) $360 refund from you directly
b) wait until the terms of your conditions run out and we pursue it for my full amount (if so, how long is that?)

No apology needed, you are trying to get money owed to you and thats understandable.

a) yes, I can FedEx you a check anytime.
b) You can, but like KingOfSports said, the most you will get from a judge is the $360 refund, which is why I offered it to save you the time.


Charlie is not the person who owes you, it is bitinstant ENTITY that owes which consists of many owners. Charlie did not personally harm you and just like in a court system the CEO of a company is not the one sued here, its the company in general. Either take the $360 or hold your vendetta/stubbornness and walk away with $0. I find it honorable Charlie would offer to pay you $360 as he personally owes you NOTHING.

As the company was doing illegal activity you won't be able to get a judge to give you anything except the $360 you paid AT MOST. Thus, this is your best option here.


This is exactly accurate. Although I was trying to say it nicer myself.
I have sent a PM requesting BTC payout if possible. You'll save on Fedex fees, I'll save on converting it back to BTC.
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October 10, 2014, 01:54:00 PM
#66

I've been asking and posting about it here and on IRC for almost two years. It wasn't until I posted here and left you negative feedback that you started coming around and responding again. What is it going to take to resolve this, man?

Rawted,

This was a BitInstant matter, not one of me personally. I've done my best to refund every customer, paying thousands out of my own pocket.

I sent you an email and I am offering again here to fully refund the $360 you deposited that day.

You have my email, as we were in conversation, feel free to email me an address where to mail the check.

I will overnight a FedEx check to you today if you email me your address right now.

-Charlie

I can appreciate the fact that you're no longer involved with BI. I can totally appreciate the amount you have had to pay out of your pocket to clear up issues. My problem is that I started this support request through you/your company back when you were in charge of it all. You know exactly who I am, as you just emailed me right away after I posted. If you notice the email you replied to was sent March of 2014. That's 7 months since you last replied to me about this.  You even knew the exact amount (360). Why did it have to get to this?

I'm torn as I realize you have no control over BI assets anymore, but I feel like my situation is different (due to the length of time I have been in contact about this, and the hoops I've been forced through), and that I have been more then patient enough. The offer of $360 is commendable, but again, I bought bitcoins with that money - I didn't place it in a no-interest savings plan for 18 months. I am honestly not happy at all with that appeasement. I appreciate you responding, and honestly attempting to resolve this (which I would like as well), but this is not fair, imo.

I have removed  the negative from your profile while we work towards an amicable solution, and thank you for stepping up.

EDIT: The email you just replied to from feb 2014 even has the order ID, event details, store, and location sent from in it. Would it be worth trying to get a hold of zipzap again about this?
Fuck your stubbornness and accept the fact that you either get $360 or $0 here. Its called bad debt, should've been written off months ago. Charlie is not the person who owes you, it is bitinstant ENTITY that owes which consists of many owners. Charlie did not personally harm you and just like in a court system the CEO of a company is not the one sued here, its the company in general. Either take the $360 or hold your vendetta/stubbornness and walk away with $0. I find it honorable Charlie would offer to pay you $360 as he personally owes you NOTHING.

As the company was doing illegal activity you won't be able to get a judge to give you anything except the $360 you paid AT MOST. Thus, this is your best option here.

I'll care about what you say once you take care of your debt to BigBitz.
That misunderstanding is still the same shit as right here. He made a mistake, I offer to pay his $250 in BTC at anytime he wishes for him to put it behind him. If BTC reaches $125 a coin I will send the 2 BTC he argues owed to his addy within 24 hours. He is not going to hit the jackpot off an unagreed deal and his mistake. Again, as there was no agreement I argue I owe nothing.

Like you, his stubbornness blinds him from reality, either $250 or $0, there is no convincing otherwise.
Fair enough. Thank you for your input. I hope you two resolve the issue.
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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
October 10, 2014, 01:50:30 PM
#65

My apologies for making you post that, I didn't know about your bail conditions.

You may not remember, but you forwarded me onto a female support agent via PM because of my post on that thread sometime in april of 2013.

Again, I appreciate your offer, but I will need to think on this.

Just to confirm my choices are:

a) $360 refund from you directly
b) wait until the terms of your conditions run out and we pursue it for my full amount (if so, how long is that?)

No apology needed, you are trying to get money owed to you and thats understandable.

a) yes, I can FedEx you a check anytime.
b) You can, but like KingOfSports said, the most you will get from a judge is the $360 refund, which is why I offered it to save you the time.


Charlie is not the person who owes you, it is bitinstant ENTITY that owes which consists of many owners. Charlie did not personally harm you and just like in a court system the CEO of a company is not the one sued here, its the company in general. Either take the $360 or hold your vendetta/stubbornness and walk away with $0. I find it honorable Charlie would offer to pay you $360 as he personally owes you NOTHING.

As the company was doing illegal activity you won't be able to get a judge to give you anything except the $360 you paid AT MOST. Thus, this is your best option here.


This is exactly accurate. Although I was trying to say it nicer myself.
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October 10, 2014, 01:45:39 PM
#64

I've been asking and posting about it here and on IRC for almost two years. It wasn't until I posted here and left you negative feedback that you started coming around and responding again. What is it going to take to resolve this, man?

Rawted,

This was a BitInstant matter, not one of me personally. I've done my best to refund every customer, paying thousands out of my own pocket.

I sent you an email and I am offering again here to fully refund the $360 you deposited that day.

You have my email, as we were in conversation, feel free to email me an address where to mail the check.

I will overnight a FedEx check to you today if you email me your address right now.

-Charlie

I can appreciate the fact that you're no longer involved with BI. I can totally appreciate the amount you have had to pay out of your pocket to clear up issues. My problem is that I started this support request through you/your company back when you were in charge of it all. You know exactly who I am, as you just emailed me right away after I posted. If you notice the email you replied to was sent March of 2014. That's 7 months since you last replied to me about this.  You even knew the exact amount (360). Why did it have to get to this?

I'm torn as I realize you have no control over BI assets anymore, but I feel like my situation is different (due to the length of time I have been in contact about this, and the hoops I've been forced through), and that I have been more then patient enough. The offer of $360 is commendable, but again, I bought bitcoins with that money - I didn't place it in a no-interest savings plan for 18 months. I am honestly not happy at all with that appeasement. I appreciate you responding, and honestly attempting to resolve this (which I would like as well), but this is not fair, imo.

I have removed  the negative from your profile while we work towards an amicable solution, and thank you for stepping up.

EDIT: The email you just replied to from feb 2014 even has the order ID, event details, store, and location sent from in it. Would it be worth trying to get a hold of zipzap again about this?
Fuck your stubbornness and accept the fact that you either get $360 or $0 here. Its called bad debt, should've been written off months ago. Charlie is not the person who owes you, it is bitinstant ENTITY that owes which consists of many owners. Charlie did not personally harm you and just like in a court system the CEO of a company is not the one sued here, its the company in general. Either take the $360 or hold your vendetta/stubbornness and walk away with $0. I find it honorable Charlie would offer to pay you $360 as he personally owes you NOTHING.

As the company was doing illegal activity you won't be able to get a judge to give you anything except the $360 you paid AT MOST. Thus, this is your best option here.

I'll care about what you say once you take care of your debt to BigBitz.
That misunderstanding is still the same shit as right here. He made a mistake, I offer to pay his $250 in BTC at anytime he wishes for him to put it behind him. If BTC reaches $125 a coin I will send the 2 BTC he argues owed to his addy within 24 hours. He is not going to hit the jackpot off an unagreed deal and his mistake. Again, as there was no agreement I argue I owe nothing.

Like you, his stubbornness blinds him from reality, either $250 or $0, there is no convincing otherwise.
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October 10, 2014, 01:42:14 PM
#63

I've been asking and posting about it here and on IRC for almost two years. It wasn't until I posted here and left you negative feedback that you started coming around and responding again. What is it going to take to resolve this, man?

Rawted,

This was a BitInstant matter, not one of me personally. I've done my best to refund every customer, paying thousands out of my own pocket.

I sent you an email and I am offering again here to fully refund the $360 you deposited that day.

You have my email, as we were in conversation, feel free to email me an address where to mail the check.

I will overnight a FedEx check to you today if you email me your address right now.

-Charlie

I can appreciate the fact that you're no longer involved with BI. I can totally appreciate the amount you have had to pay out of your pocket to clear up issues. My problem is that I started this support request through you/your company back when you were in charge of it all. You know exactly who I am, as you just emailed me right away after I posted. If you notice the email you replied to was sent March of 2014. That's 7 months since you last replied to me about this.  You even knew the exact amount (360). Why did it have to get to this?

I'm torn as I realize you have no control over BI assets anymore, but I feel like my situation is different (due to the length of time I have been in contact about this, and the hoops I've been forced through), and that I have been more then patient enough. The offer of $360 is commendable, but again, I bought bitcoins with that money - I didn't place it in a no-interest savings plan for 18 months. I am honestly not happy at all with that appeasement. I appreciate you responding, and honestly attempting to resolve this (which I would like as well), but this is not fair, imo.

I have removed  the negative from your profile while we work towards an amicable solution, and thank you for stepping up.

EDIT: The email you just replied to from feb 2014 even has the order ID, event details, store, and location sent from in it. Would it be worth trying to get a hold of zipzap again about this?
Fuck your stubbornness and accept the fact that you either get $360 or $0 here. Its called bad debt, should've been written off months ago. Charlie is not the person who owes you, it is bitinstant ENTITY that owes which consists of many owners. Charlie did not personally harm you and just like in a court system the CEO of a company is not the one sued here, its the company in general. Either take the $360 or hold your vendetta/stubbornness and walk away with $0. I find it honorable Charlie would offer to pay you $360 as he personally owes you NOTHING.

As the company was doing illegal activity you won't be able to get a judge to give you anything except the $360 you paid AT MOST. Thus, this is your best option here.

I'll care about what you say once you take care of your debt to BigBitz.
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October 10, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
#62

I've been asking and posting about it here and on IRC for almost two years. It wasn't until I posted here and left you negative feedback that you started coming around and responding again. What is it going to take to resolve this, man?

Rawted,

This was a BitInstant matter, not one of me personally. I've done my best to refund every customer, paying thousands out of my own pocket.

I sent you an email and I am offering again here to fully refund the $360 you deposited that day.

You have my email, as we were in conversation, feel free to email me an address where to mail the check.

I will overnight a FedEx check to you today if you email me your address right now.

-Charlie

I can appreciate the fact that you're no longer involved with BI. I can totally appreciate the amount you have had to pay out of your pocket to clear up issues. My problem is that I started this support request through you/your company back when you were in charge of it all. You know exactly who I am, as you just emailed me right away after I posted. If you notice the email you replied to was sent March of 2014. That's 7 months since you last replied to me about this.  You even knew the exact amount (360). Why did it have to get to this?

I'm torn as I realize you have no control over BI assets anymore, but I feel like my situation is different (due to the length of time I have been in contact about this, and the hoops I've been forced through), and that I have been more then patient enough. The offer of $360 is commendable, but again, I bought bitcoins with that money - I didn't place it in a no-interest savings plan for 18 months. I am honestly not happy at all with that appeasement. I appreciate you responding, and honestly attempting to resolve this (which I would like as well), but this is not fair, imo.

I have removed  the negative from your profile while we work towards an amicable solution, and thank you for stepping up.

EDIT: The email you just replied to from feb 2014 even has the order ID, event details, store, and location sent from in it. Would it be worth trying to get a hold of zipzap again about this?
Fuck your stubbornness and accept the fact that you either get $360 or $0 here. Its called bad debt, should've been written off months ago. Charlie is not the person who owes you, it is bitinstant ENTITY that owes which consists of many owners. Charlie did not personally harm you and just like in a court system the CEO of a company is not the one sued here, its the company in general. Either take the $360 or hold your vendetta/stubbornness and walk away with $0. I find it honorable Charlie would offer to pay you $360 as he personally owes you NOTHING.

As the company was doing illegal activity you won't be able to get a judge to give you anything except the $360 you paid AT MOST. Thus, this is your best option here.
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October 10, 2014, 01:38:08 PM
#61

I can appreciate the fact that you're no longer involved with BI. I can totally appreciate the amount you have had to pay out of your pocket to clear up issues. My problem is that I started this support request through you/your company back when you were in charge of it all. You know exactly who I am, as you just emailed me right away after I posted. If you notice the email you replied to was sent March of 2014. That's 7 months since you last replied to me about this.  You even knew the exact amount (360). Why did it have to get to this?

I'm torn as I realize you have no control over BI assets anymore, but I feel like my situation is different (due to the length of time I have been in contact about this, and the hoops I've been forced through), and that I have been more then patient enough. The offer of $360 is commendable, but again, I bought bitcoins with that money - I didn't place it in a no-interest savings plan for 18 months. I am honestly not happy at all with that appeasement. I appreciate you responding, and honestly attempting to resolve this (which I would like as well), but this is not fair, imo.

I have removed  the negative from your profile while we work towards an amicable solution, and thank you for stepping up.

Thanks for your message.

I was able to know the amount and who you are because after you posted this I searched "Rawted" in my gmail search and only 1 email came up. I also know it was $360 because that was the amount you told me, so I am going by your word.

There are many places where your order could have failed, and Im sorry for the length of time it has taken to resolve this. ZipZap may have not paid us for your order, or it could have failed. Bitcoins were never purchased for this order. If there was, we would have had the coins to give you

I was only apprised to this situation when once I got your email on Feb 17th 2014. Up until that point, I had no idea of this situation.

The day I got your email, I copied my partner and said (you have this email as well)


EDIT: The email you just replied to from feb 2014 even has the order ID, event details, store, and location sent from in it. Would it be worth trying to get a hold of zipzap again about this?

All ZipZap will do is confirm this order exists in their system and that you paid.

Fro then on, I have no way to check the BitInstant system of what happened to your order.

This is why Im offering to give you a full refund.

My apologies for making you post that, I didn't know about your bail conditions.

You may not remember, but you forwarded me onto a female support agent via PM because of my post on that thread sometime in april of 2013.

Again, I appreciate your offer, but I will need to think on this.

Just to confirm my choices are:

a) $360 refund from you directly
b) wait until the terms of your conditions run out and we pursue it for my full amount (if so, how long is that?)
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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
October 10, 2014, 01:32:20 PM
#60

I can appreciate the fact that you're no longer involved with BI. I can totally appreciate the amount you have had to pay out of your pocket to clear up issues. My problem is that I started this support request through you/your company back when you were in charge of it all. You know exactly who I am, as you just emailed me right away after I posted. If you notice the email you replied to was sent March of 2014. That's 7 months since you last replied to me about this.  You even knew the exact amount (360). Why did it have to get to this?

I'm torn as I realize you have no control over BI assets anymore, but I feel like my situation is different (due to the length of time I have been in contact about this, and the hoops I've been forced through), and that I have been more then patient enough. The offer of $360 is commendable, but again, I bought bitcoins with that money - I didn't place it in a no-interest savings plan for 18 months. I am honestly not happy at all with that appeasement. I appreciate you responding, and honestly attempting to resolve this (which I would like as well), but this is not fair, imo.

I have removed  the negative from your profile while we work towards an amicable solution, and thank you for stepping up.

Thanks for your message.

I was able to know the amount and who you are because after you posted this I searched "Rawted" in my gmail search and only 1 email came up. I also know it was $360 because that was the amount you told me, so I am going by your word.

There are many places where your order could have failed, and Im sorry for the length of time it has taken to resolve this. ZipZap may have not paid us for your order, or it could have failed. Bitcoins were never purchased for this order. If there was, we would have had the coins to give you

I was only apprised to this situation when once I got your email on Feb 17th 2014. Up until that point, I had no idea of this situation.

The day I got your email, I copied my partner and said (you have this email as well)


EDIT: The email you just replied to from feb 2014 even has the order ID, event details, store, and location sent from in it. Would it be worth trying to get a hold of zipzap again about this?

All ZipZap will do is confirm this order exists in their system and that you paid.

From then on, I have no way to check the BitInstant system of what happened to your order.

This is why Im offering to give you a full refund.

Edit: I'm not even legally allowed to send you Bitcoin as a refund, as that constitutes money transmission which I'm guilty of. I can only refund you in the way you paid which is why I offered to FedEx a bank check.
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October 10, 2014, 01:22:25 PM
#59

I've been asking and posting about it here and on IRC for almost two years. It wasn't until I posted here and left you negative feedback that you started coming around and responding again. What is it going to take to resolve this, man?

Rawted,

This was a BitInstant matter, not one of me personally. I've done my best to refund every customer, paying thousands out of my own pocket.

I sent you an email and I am offering again here to fully refund the $360 you deposited that day.

You have my email, as we were in conversation, feel free to email me an address where to mail the check.

I will overnight a FedEx check to you today if you email me your address right now.

-Charlie

I can appreciate the fact that you're no longer involved with BI. I can totally appreciate the amount you have had to pay out of your pocket to clear up issues. My problem is that I started this support request through you/your company back when you were in charge of it all. You know exactly who I am, as you just emailed me right away after I posted. If you notice the email you replied to was sent March of 2014. That's 7 months since you last replied to me about this.  You even knew the exact amount (360). Why did it have to get to this?

I'm torn as I realize you have no control over BI assets anymore, but I feel like my situation is different (due to the length of time I have been in contact about this, and the hoops I've been forced through), and that I have been more then patient enough. The offer of $360 is commendable, but again, I bought bitcoins with that money - I didn't place it in a no-interest savings plan for 18 months. I am honestly not happy at all with that appeasement. I appreciate you responding, and honestly attempting to resolve this (which I would like as well), but this is not fair, imo.

I have removed  the negative from your profile while we work towards an amicable solution, and thank you for stepping up.

EDIT: The email you just replied to from feb 2014 even has the order ID, event details, store, and location sent from in it. Would it be worth trying to get a hold of zipzap again about this?
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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem
October 10, 2014, 01:09:50 PM
#58

I've been asking and posting about it here and on IRC for almost two years. It wasn't until I posted here and left you negative feedback that you started coming around and responding again. What is it going to take to resolve this, man?

Rawted,

This was a BitInstant matter, not one of me personally. I've done my best to refund every customer, paying thousands out of my own pocket.

I sent you an email and I am offering again here to fully refund the $360 you deposited that day.

You have my email, as we were in conversation, feel free to email me an address where to mail the check.

I will overnight a FedEx check to you today if you email me your address right now.

-Charlie

Edit: I just sent you an email offering a full refund.
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October 10, 2014, 12:54:48 PM
#57
and what about rawted's accusation, 17 btc, while we are clearing all this mess ?


He claims BitInstant owes him money from about a year ago. Anyone who was owed money I personally paid them (even though the company closed and Im not personally liable). He never emailed me any deposit slips or anything I can cross reference, only an order number that I can't even check.
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This is mostly incorrect.

1. I posted on the official "Bitinstant Support" thread within 20 minutes of the deposit going missing (i believe it was around page 38 at the time). I had done 2 previous transactions with BI.

2. I spoke to you initially, and the first person you directed me to (a female support agent), confirmed the debt with just the order number. She was supposed to pay me back in April 2013. Never happened.

3. I spoke to zipzap (took about 10 days to actually get a response), they confirmed the order number and were supposed to contact Bitinstant. Never happened.

4. After a few months (7, to be exact) you referred me to another support agent and he confirmed the order number as well and was very helpful, and confirmed the debt.

5. You asked me for my moneygram deposit slip after almost 16 months from the date of the transaction, despite having my order number, and confirmation from BI employees. I admit, I have no clue where it went.

I've been asking and posting about it here and on IRC for almost two years. It wasn't until I posted here and left you negative feedback that you started coming around and responding again. What is it going to take to resolve this, man?
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