Charlie Shrem is scammer, watch out - page 17.

Yankee (BitInstant)

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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 12:00:50 PM

Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 11:43:16 AM

Bracek,

Is this you who keeps emailing me? See my messages above:

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a a
12:37 PM (3 minutes ago)

to me
OMG! you are doing like this because you don't want to send me BTC , let me back home and i will not be happy with you in forum , because if sameone wanna scam you that your problem , and you the one ask me to talk on email and to send you BTC adresse on Email for security now you wanna back to forum again , don't make me worried man, there more deals well do..
if you don't trust that is me create one btc account then send money on it and send me account infos here !
thank you for wasting my time .

Forget everything else, Im trying to figure out of the person emailing me is really you.

See here for more emails: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9154693

Let me know, or private PM me the address you want the Bitcoin sent to from now on.

-Charlie

I am not sending any of that, ignore all of it,
why did you ever want to drag the comunication to emails anyway ?
lets just keep it here in the open
actually, no need for any communication,
just send to this address

1EYn7SvBGm6PGgzq6XCQ74MB5RXvRT7USd

Sorry, I thought it was you emailing me. If I ignored the emails, I was afraid you would come here and tell people I was ignoring you

Agreed, everything in the open and will send to that address.

I will post updated every time I sent.

Thank you and have a nice day

-Charlie

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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 11:43:16 AM

Bracek,

Is this you who keeps emailing me? See my messages above:

Quote

a a
12:37 PM (3 minutes ago)

to me
OMG! you are doing like this because you don't want to send me BTC , let me back home and i will not be happy with you in forum , because if sameone wanna scam you that your problem , and you the one ask me to talk on email and to send you BTC adresse on Email for security now you wanna back to forum again , don't make me worried man, there more deals well do..
if you don't trust that is me create one btc account then send money on it and send me account infos here !
thank you for wasting my time .

Forget everything else, Im trying to figure out of the person emailing me is really you.

See here for more emails: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9154693

Let me know, or private PM me the address you want the Bitcoin sent to from now on.

-Charlie

I am not sending any of that, ignore all of it,
why did you ever want to drag the comunication to emails anyway ?
lets just keep it here in the open
actually, no need for any communication,
just send to this address

1EYn7SvBGm6PGgzq6XCQ74MB5RXvRT7USd

Yankee (BitInstant)

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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 11:51:27 AM

Quote from: Walter Rothbard on October 10, 2014, 11:20:10 AM

I suspect he's going to continue to gripe here, but hopefully not.

BTW, Charlie, I like the way you are handling this. Very concerned about your reputation, but not disrespectful or aggressive.

I think we have here a case where two parties ultimately disagree on what the original agreement was. From the perspective of the rest of us, neither is "right" or "wrong." They just need to work it out, or else leave each other alone. To sit and hurl insults and scam accusations in such a case like was done here is very bad form, IMO.

I must continue, because of my suspicions that teh strategy is to stall
to defuse the social pressure, and maybe not pay later,

excuse me for thinking out loud, I am not accusing of anything,
just a thought that crossed my mind of how it looks like

and
I also think this is being handled very well by both of us,
considering the stakes

I understand your suspicious, and social preassure will not be defused. This bitcointalk thread will always exist and I am a man of my word.

I believe we are both handling it well. I will continue to send you BTC over the next weeks until this is paid off.

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 11:55:55 AM

So far the only address I have confirmed is this one:
1EYn7SvBGm6PGgzq6XCQ74MB5RXvRT7USd

yes, the only one,
it will not change, send only there

ignore all emails, all are fake

THANK YOU! This scammer keeps emailing me.

From now on, I will only send BTC to addresses that are in this thread.

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So far the only address I have confirmed is this one:
1EYn7SvBGm6PGgzq6XCQ74MB5RXvRT7USd

yes, the only one,
it will not change, send only there

ignore all emails, all are fake

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The guy is trying to confirm your Bitcoin address and you're ignoring him lol

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Quote from: Walter Rothbard on October 10, 2014, 11:20:10 AM

I suspect he's going to continue to gripe here, but hopefully not.

BTW, Charlie, I like the way you are handling this. Very concerned about your reputation, but not disrespectful or aggressive.

I think we have here a case where two parties ultimately disagree on what the original agreement was. From the perspective of the rest of us, neither is "right" or "wrong." They just need to work it out, or else leave each other alone. To sit and hurl insults and scam accusations in such a case like was done here is very bad form, IMO.

I must continue, because of my suspicions that teh strategy is to stall
to defuse the social pressure, and maybe not pay later,

excuse me for thinking out loud, I am not accusing of anything,
just a thought that crossed my mind of how it looks like

and
I also think this is being handled very well by both of us,
considering the stakes

Yankee (BitInstant)

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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 11:46:46 AM

Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 10:53:40 AM

The issue is, I made the mistake and prematurely advanced him coins, therefore setting a precedent.

So, I understand when he saw I sold some of the other coins he wants the additional BTC.

Anyways, were working it out so no worries.

in your messages, you explicitly said that you have sold the coins and sent me exact amounts

which was it, advance or actual sales ?
why is all the info so fuzzy ?

Bracek,

I defended you on the past posts. No need to dwell on this.

We moved on from this, Im paying your BTC, everything is fine. Nothing is fuzzy. I sent you 150 BTC, I owe you 50 more (I sent 10 last night) and I still have some of your physical coins which I will sell, dont worry.

More importantly, can you please respond to all my messages?

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9154693
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9154834
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9154930

Im trying to figure out if the scammer is you or not.

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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 10:53:40 AM

The issue is, I made the mistake and prematurely advanced him coins, therefore setting a precedent.

So, I understand when he saw I sold some of the other coins he wants the additional BTC.

Anyways, were working it out so no worries.

in your messages, you explicitly said that you have sold the coins and sent me exact amounts

which was it, advance or actual sales ?
why is all the info so fuzzy ?

Yankee (BitInstant)

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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem

Bracek,

Is this you who keeps emailing me? See my messages above:

Quote

a a
12:37 PM (3 minutes ago)

to me
OMG! you are doing like this because you don't want to send me BTC , let me back home and i will not be happy with you in forum , because if sameone wanna scam you that your problem , and you the one ask me to talk on email and to send you BTC adresse on Email for security now you wanna back to forum again , don't make me worried man, there more deals well do..
if you don't trust that is me create one btc account then send money on it and send me account infos here !
thank you for wasting my time .

Forget everything else, Im trying to figure out of the person emailing me is really you.

See here for more emails: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.9154693

Let me know, or private PM me the address you want the Bitcoin sent to from now on.

-Charlie

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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 10:22:38 AM

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM

I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

There is nothing unusual going on here at all. I advanced you BTC before I sold all your physicals.

I sent you about 160 BTC total.

-Charlie

since you made the receiving address public, people can see it has not received 160 btc,
why the constant augmenting of good stuff, and downplaying the bad,
lets keep it as it is

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Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 11:33:42 AM

Quote from: Walter Rothbard on October 10, 2014, 10:31:43 AM

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM

I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

It's already been explained in the thread that his understanding of the agreement was that you would be paid when he sold the coins, not when he received them from you.

yes, but you don't know what I have been told through pm's

Bracek, please see my message above.

bracek

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Quote from: Walter Rothbard on October 10, 2014, 10:31:43 AM

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM

I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

It's already been explained in the thread that his understanding of the agreement was that you would be paid when he sold the coins, not when he received them from you.

yes, but you don't know what I have been told through pm's

Yankee (BitInstant)

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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem

Bracek, can you confirm this is you?

Let me know which address to send more Bitcoin to, please post it here.

So far the only address I have confirmed is this one:
1EYn7SvBGm6PGgzq6XCQ74MB5RXvRT7USd

Someone has been emailing me 2-3 different ones since yesterday, Im afraid to send.

Im nervous because I asked the emailer to post the address in this thread (which Bracek did before) and he ignored me and threatened me 3 times.

Please post the new one here.

Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 10:53:40 AM

a a
12:11 PM (4 minutes ago)

to me
Yes i see and i told you this is scammer do not send to him , if you see this yelow message when i talk to you do not send me any BTC ,
now you see yelow message alert when i talk to you now ?

Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 10:53:40 AM

a a
12:17 PM (4 minutes ago)

to me
Do not send to this BTC adrese i said to you this is my client BTC adresse !
send to this BTC 13YmGZjBTuLqzbRPPkZ7QnbVPwCpmf6xY4
Don't worry Charlie.

Quote

a a
12:37 PM (3 minutes ago)

to me
OMG! you are doing like this because you don't want to send me BTC , let me back home and i will not be happy with you in forum , because if sameone wanna scam you that your problem , and you the one ask me to talk on email and to send you BTC adresse on Email for security now you wanna back to forum again , don't make me worried man, there more deals well do..
if you don't trust that is me create one btc account then send money on it and send me account infos here !
thank you for wasting my time .

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Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 10, 2014, 10:53:40 AM

Quote from: Walter Rothbard on October 10, 2014, 10:31:43 AM

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM

I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

It's already been explained in the thread that his understanding of the agreement was that you would be paid when he sold the coins, not when he received them from you.

The issue is, I made the mistake and prematurely advanced him coins, therefore setting a precedent.

So, I understand when he saw I sold some of the other coins he wants the additional BTC.

Anyways, were working it out so no worries.

I suspect he's going to continue to gripe here, but hopefully not.

BTW, Charlie, I like the way you are handling this. Very concerned about your reputation, but not disrespectful or aggressive.

I think we have here a case where two parties ultimately disagree on what the original agreement was. From the perspective of the rest of us, neither is "right" or "wrong." They just need to work it out, or else leave each other alone. To sit and hurl insults and scam accusations in such a case like was done here is very bad form, IMO.

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Quote from: Walter Rothbard on October 10, 2014, 10:31:43 AM

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM

I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

It's already been explained in the thread that his understanding of the agreement was that you would be paid when he sold the coins, not when he received them from you.

The issue is, I made the mistake and prematurely advanced him coins, therefore setting a precedent.

So, I understand when he saw I sold some of the other coins he wants the additional BTC.

Anyways, were working it out so no worries.

Walter Rothbard

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Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM

I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

It's already been explained in the thread that his understanding of the agreement was that you would be paid when he sold the coins, not when he received them from you.

Yankee (BitInstant)

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Charlie 'Van Bitcoin' Shrem

Quote from: bracek on October 10, 2014, 06:23:48 AM

I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

There is nothing unusual going on here at all. I advanced you BTC before I sold all your physicals.

I sent you about 160 BTC total.

-Charlie

bracek

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I am glad we started to settle the deal finally

the question remains why "my money" was spent in the first place ?
It is a clear sign that there was no respect towards it.
and what is that action telling about intention to give it back ?

why do I have to get it in chunks ?
Who knows how long will it take,
might be just a continuation of a weird game...
time will tell

but one has to admit that there is something really unusual going on here, right ?

bracek

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Merit: 500

Quote from: BIGbangTheory on October 09, 2014, 05:52:49 PM

Quote from: Yankee (BitInstant) on October 09, 2014, 01:51:35 PM

Hey Bracek,

Please email me your Bitcoin address and I will take care of this. Ive never scammed anyone and dont intend to now.

You have my phone number, email, address and everything. I wish you would contact me that way instead of making "charlie shrem is a scammer thread"

@Bracek - Since you are all about being so public about things, why don't you say publicly why you did not pick up the phone and give him a call? There are many other ways to get ahold of someone other then PMing then on here and opening a scam accusation. He has said many times that you have his contact information but all your response is that you want "your" money. IMO you are being unprofessional and greedy

first, what is your interest in this ?

second,
read carefully what I wrote here in this thread,
you will have enough to answer your questions yourself

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Infleum

It's good to see an accusation going the way it goes here. Most threads in this section are just full of rage or bitter regrets.

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