I have updated the Indonesian Local Board activity for september as it should be. I did it faster than rikafip which may have been a bit busy in the last few months, you can find it here. Re: [CHART] Tampilan Bulanan Aktivitas Lokal Board Bahasa Indonesia.
It's just that I have a little doubt about the actual number of posts throughout September because on the merit dashboard the number of posts made is only 487 for the 4 existing board categories, while on ninjastic.space the number of posts reaches 934. So far I know ninjastic.space saves all posts that were deleted or moved to another board, but I'm not sure nearly 50% of that number was lost during september due to being deleted by moderators. The only reason I'm thinking about decreasing the post count is that some users deleted their own posts during september.
Topic: [CHARTS] Brief monthly overview of the local boards activity - page 39. (Read 18450 times)
September 28, 2021, 06:32:55 PM
I took the liberty to plot a simple graph with the data provided by @Rikafip of monthly post count belonging to several local boards:
I also wanted to study where there was a simple way to study the behavior of individual post counts for local boards, unfortunately, I believe that Excell my be not confisticate enough, perhaps one may need to try with mathlab.
Here is a rough one-year linear extrapolation for some boards:
I also wanted to study where there was a simple way to study the behavior of individual post counts for local boards, unfortunately, I believe that Excell my be not confisticate enough, perhaps one may need to try with mathlab.
Here is a rough one-year linear extrapolation for some boards:
September 27, 2021, 05:29:56 AM
The bottom line is local board only help members earn merit easier.
Nope, generalization. Some boards do have high merit/post ratio, while others are struggling. My local board (Croatian) struggled a lot until this recent increase in merit sources, with our merit/post average being lower than many English boards. Without local boards, they can discuss well in English, in international boards so to be honest, in most of cases, local boards are used not because of limitations in English.
This forum would be way less active if there are no local boards so I think that they are great addition. What you obviously fail to understand is that is perfectly normal for people to be more relaxed communicating in their own language, even if they are fluent in English. To be honest, its kinda weird hearing this from you...somehow I thought that you are proponent of local boards.I can bet that the average quality of posts that received merit would be lower than merited English posts.
Again generalization. While it's true that some local boards have more merit sources and its easier to get merit, same goes for English speaking boards. Chinese aren't included
Rikafip explained the reason for that several times. During most months, more posts get deleted in the Chinese board than new ones are written. That results in a negative post count at the end. Looking at previous months, the last (and maybe only time) it was included was in March 2021. It would look silly to have look at the charts and see a local community who has written -27 posts, for example. September 26, 2021, 09:55:13 AM
In the Croatian section for more than 3 years we have a topic where local members can report their quality posts and get merits.
You can see topic here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/zbirni-topic-za-davanje-merita-za-kvalitetne-postove-i-za-korisne-informacije-4265795
Submitted posts can be in both Croatian and English and I would not agree that the posts awarded with merits were of lower quality than those written in the English part of the forum.
This topic has actually helped members of the local community not to miss the quality posts of other members and that all such quality posts can be rewarded with merits.
The same situation exists with the thread I've moderated so far [HELP]Bantuan untuk menaikkan Rank (Newbie s.d Hero) V.2 [UPDATE]. The purpose of the topic is to help users get merit for their quality posts if the post doesn't get enough merit but not for users who already have a Legendary rank. In many cases maybe not all submitted posts will get added merit as I and some Local contributors will review the post and if all submitted posts are not quality or low quality then most likely the merit is not worth them. It's just that all posts submitted must be in the local language.You can see topic here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/zbirni-topic-za-davanje-merita-za-kvalitetne-postove-i-za-korisne-informacije-4265795
Submitted posts can be in both Croatian and English and I would not agree that the posts awarded with merits were of lower quality than those written in the English part of the forum.
This topic has actually helped members of the local community not to miss the quality posts of other members and that all such quality posts can be rewarded with merits.
September 26, 2021, 06:45:43 AM
The situation is the same with merit, I will not go into details, but it is much easier for Russian-speaking beginners to advance in rank than beginners who speak English or any other language.
The bottom line is local board only help members earn merit easier. Without local boards, they can discuss well in English, in international boards so to be honest, in most of cases, local boards are used not because of limitations in English.I can bet that the average quality of posts that received merit would be lower than merited English posts.
In the Croatian section for more than 3 years we have a topic where local members can report their quality posts and get merits.
You can see topic here: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/zbirni-topic-za-davanje-merita-za-kvalitetne-postove-i-za-korisne-informacije-4265795
Submitted posts can be in both Croatian and English and I would not agree that the posts awarded with merits were of lower quality than those written in the English part of the forum.
This topic has actually helped members of the local community not to miss the quality posts of other members and that all such quality posts can be rewarded with merits.
September 26, 2021, 05:16:16 AM
Chinese aren't included
Rikafip explained the reason for that several times. During most months, more posts get deleted in the Chinese board than new ones are written. That results in a negative post count at the end. Looking at previous months, the last (and maybe only time) it was included was in March 2021. It would look silly to have look at the charts and see a local community who has written -27 posts, for example. Ninjastic.space data shows that a total of 40 posts were made in the Chinese local board during August 2021. I am not sure how many of the posts have since been deleted.
Most of the posts are updates on ANN topics, and I don't think there is much real discussion there.
The most active members in the Chinese local board during August 2021
spatialiste [9]
Shinvi [3]
dell jo [3]
wenni [3]
xzxcoin [3]
jianshendarens [2]
September 26, 2021, 02:54:17 AM
Chinese aren't included
Rikafip explained the reason for that several times. During most months, more posts get deleted in the Chinese board than new ones are written. That results in a negative post count at the end. Looking at previous months, the last (and maybe only time) it was included was in March 2021. It would look silly to have look at the charts and see a local community who has written -27 posts, for example. 
September 25, 2021, 09:09:23 PM
The situation is the same with merit, I will not go into details, but it is much easier for Russian-speaking beginners to advance in rank than beginners who speak English or any other language.
The bottom line is local board only help members earn merit easier. Without local boards, they can discuss well in English, in international boards so to be honest, in most of cases, local boards are used not because of limitations in English.I can bet that the average quality of posts that received merit would be lower than merited English posts.
September 25, 2021, 04:55:10 PM
Obviously we have all seen Ratimov around, but I have no idea who D-oN_ is (2nd on the list in terms of activity). Looking at the first 5 pages from his post history, all his posts were made in the Russian boards.
It's the same thing with the 3rd most active Russian - The0ldl_lser. Not a single post in English in the first 5 pages of his post history.
Azrieli has a few posts in English, but the majority of his writing also takes place in the local sub.
I bet there are many Russians who don't even speak English or write in the English boards, but they are very active on Bitcointalk and get plenty of merits in the local board alone.
You are absolutely right, there are many Russian-speaking users who rarely leave the local section, but I think this is the paradox of all local sections. But the most interesting thing is that the Russian section would be much more active if there was not such a mess as it is now. Against this background, many people lose all desire to visit the Russian section, so many Russian-speaking users live outside their language section. The situation is the same with merit, I will not go into details, but it is much easier for Russian-speaking beginners to advance in rank than beginners who speak English or any other language. It's the same thing with the 3rd most active Russian - The0ldl_lser. Not a single post in English in the first 5 pages of his post history.
Azrieli has a few posts in English, but the majority of his writing also takes place in the local sub.
I bet there are many Russians who don't even speak English or write in the English boards, but they are very active on Bitcointalk and get plenty of merits in the local board alone.
September 25, 2021, 02:27:49 PM
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The view provided by @Rikafip gives senders and receivers per month. The following is a quicker access to the data (prefiltered): https://public.tableau.com/shared/5M7395TND?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link
Now if what you are after overall aggregate data for the Indonesian local board (up until last friday), it is as follows:
nTX: 15.141
nMerits: 26.670
nDistinctSenders: 1.542
nDistinctReceivers: 1.423
I looked up the above on my DB, as the Dashboard breaks it down by month.
September 25, 2021, 02:07:16 PM
You mean something like this, merit senders and receivers per month?
No, That is not what I mean. I want to know the total number of merit receivers and senders in the Indonesian Local Board since January 24, 2018 until this mounth. But I've been going through all of them in merit dashboard one by one and there doesn't seem to be any. But it may not be important because the data shows that every year from 2018 to 2021 the number of receivers, the number of senders, and the number of meirs distributed on the Indonesian Local Board seems to decrease based on the image I posted earlier. If this continues, maybe in the next 1-2 years the sender and receivers of the merit will no longer be on the Indonesian Local Board, I hope that doesn't happen. But I don't know, I think we really have to move forward to do our best there.
September 25, 2021, 01:22:22 PM
For example, I want to know how many merit senders and receivers have been in the Local Board Indonesian since January 24, 2018 until now. I'm having trouble getting it from Merit Dashboard, can you share some information?
You mean something like this, merit senders and receivers per month?
Source: https://public.tableau.com/views/BitcointalkMeritDashboard/MeritSendersReceivers?:language=en-US&:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link
Or if you want total amount of merit senders and receivers, this is one of the ways to see it. List is much longer, you just have to scroll it down. Looking at it, there have been 1542 merit senders and 1423 merit receivers on your board since January 24th 2018 up until now, or more precisely September 24th.
Source: https://public.tableau.com/shared/6XZ4H36M3?:display_count=n&:origin=viz_share_link
September 25, 2021, 12:05:16 PM
As I told you before, no need to ask for permission, feel free to use these charts whenever you want. As long as you mention the source of course.
Thanks, but there's nothing wrong with asking permission because I just wanted to show respect for the work you do. Only that. ;vRikafip, can you please tell me how I can find out the number of users who have been involved in this merit system from either the senders or the receivers of the merit in a particular local board. For example, I want to know how many merit senders and receivers have been in the Local Board Indonesian since January 24, 2018 until now. I'm having trouble getting it from Merit Dashboard, can you share some information?
But if it's for a different year, I can get the data and this is how it looks.
September 25, 2021, 09:28:47 AM
The occasional mention of Bitcointalk in Croatian forums about technology, IT, and stuff like that could maybe get some new people interested.
I tried that, to no avail. Thinking if it, I talked to every single person I know IRL (that is into crypto) about bitcointalk and responses I got were from "bitcointalk is one big signature campaign circlejerk and echo chamber" (that's coming from veterans) to "what can I find on bitcointalk that I can't find someplace else" (mostly coming from new people). Neither is true, but that's how they perceive bitcointalk.It's the same thing with the 3rd most active Russian - The0ldl_lser. Not a single post in English in the first 5 pages of his post history.
Azrieli has a few posts in English, but the majority of his writing also takes place in the local sub.
That's one of the advantages of big boards like Russian, German and Turkish; they are practically self-sufficient and members can find everything inside their own board. So even if they know English to some degree, majority of them will just rather stay there. Azrieli has a few posts in English, but the majority of his writing also takes place in the local sub.
There are a lot of other reasons and different situations why we don't have more members on the forum.
Some of my friends prefer Telegram or social networks, some have a problem with English and some of my friends have dropped out of this forum due to evil fee.
I'm sorry for this last reason because we could have more members at the Croatian local.
Rikafip, congratulations on another great monthly forum analysis
September 25, 2021, 09:10:42 AM
Inn ki bhi sun lo…
This is so sad he’s one of the top TV journalist in Pakistan with 4.4m Twitter followers.
They don’t do any R&D by themselves just Google and read whatever crap available online on the first page and start giving suggestions to governments.
These so called journalists behave like they are experts of every thing whatever the hot topic on circulation. During pandemic they were experts of Corona Virus and vaccination then when recent Afghanistan was in news they were war experts of Taliban and think tanks or policy makers of Afghanistan. Now this Chinese FUD and they are cashing in with their financial advices…
…!!!
This is so sad he’s one of the top TV journalist in Pakistan with 4.4m Twitter followers.
They don’t do any R&D by themselves just Google and read whatever crap available online on the first page and start giving suggestions to governments.
These so called journalists behave like they are experts of every thing whatever the hot topic on circulation. During pandemic they were experts of Corona Virus and vaccination then when recent Afghanistan was in news they were war experts of Taliban and think tanks or policy makers of Afghanistan. Now this Chinese FUD and they are cashing in with their financial advices…
…!!! September 25, 2021, 03:26:15 AM
As usual, I ask permission to take some data from this latest update post to complete my thread. I think it will be much more complete if I also add the most active posters on other Local Board as comparison for the Indonesian Local Board. Hopefully it can help the posters of the Indonesian Local Board to be encouraged to be even more active in posting quality things.
As I told you before, no need to ask for permission, feel free to use these charts whenever you want. As long as you mention the source of course.Just wondering why Pakistan doesn't appear in this above graph of "Merit senders and receivers"? I know since Pakistan is not a local board technically and may be tracking individual sender receiver might be tricky?
Because Merit Dashboard tracks that only for boards, not specific topics. There are probably ways to get that info for Pakistan topic (manually counting?) so if you figure it out and can provide the info I will include it in the chart.He only tracks merits distributed in sections which have their own local boards. Local threads, such as that of Pakistan are not included. I don't think it would make much sense to include the Pakistani local thread without also including the threads of Bangladesh, Serbia, Vietnam, Ukraine, etc. The names I mentioned are based solely on the number of posts in those language sections. And if you include one or two, there are always going to be questions why didn't you also include this one or that one...
I do track merit for 3 communities that don't have their own local board (Nigerian, Pakistan and Bangladesh), but not senders/receivers due before mentioned reasons. Originally, Serbian topic was included in those charts too (from 10/2020 to 04/2021), but post activity there dropped so much that I decided to remove it and focus only on those communities that have regular activity and some chances of getting their own local board, as that was the idea behind adding communities that don't have their own local boards, to somewhat help them, or at least try. September 25, 2021, 02:27:11 AM
Just wondering why Pakistan doesn't appear in this above graph of "Merit senders and receivers"? I know since Pakistan is not a local board technically and may be tracking individual sender receiver might be tricky?
I think you have answered your own question. He only tracks merits distributed in sections which have their own local boards. Local threads, such as that of Pakistan are not included. I don't think it would make much sense to include the Pakistani local thread without also including the threads of Bangladesh, Serbia, Vietnam, Ukraine, etc. The names I mentioned are based solely on the number of posts in those language sections. And if you include one or two, there are always going to be questions why didn't you also include this one or that one... September 24, 2021, 10:09:02 PM
Merit senders and receivers per local board during August 2021
Hey Rikafip amazing work.. you know your graphs are one of the motivators in the local boards trust me. Any way its a great work as always keep it up.
Just wondering why Pakistan doesn't appear in this above graph of "Merit senders and receivers"? I know since Pakistan is not a local board technically and may be tracking individual sender receiver might be tricky?
September 24, 2021, 04:32:35 PM
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As usual, I ask permission to take some data from this latest update post to complete my thread. I think it will be much more complete if I also add the most active posters on other Local Board as comparison for the Indonesian Local Board. Hopefully it can help the posters of the Indonesian Local Board to be encouraged to be even more active in posting quality things.Well, the Italian board is actually trying to catch up with yours ,so... we will have to increase the effort!
fillippone, I regret that I can't do much for the Indonesian Local Board especially as a merit distributor because I don't have enough sMerit to distribute it there. I've previously been advised to apply as a merit source, will probably do so in the future when I'm really ready. For now I'm just trying to get more to help Indonesian Local Board users get some of their posts that I consider quality. As ShowOff already mentioned, we have 2 merit source that are still pretty active while we're also missing a few like Joniboini and dbshck. Hopefully we get their replacement as soon as possible or hope they return to their activities as a source of merit. 
September 24, 2021, 12:57:11 PM
Fun fact: As of August, the Russian board had distributed a total of 2850 merits, which is 741 more than the meta (2109), they are already at 1627 in September with 7 days to go I'm betting they have more merit sources than any other board, or the board is full of high-quality posters and generous givers. 
Бoжe мoй! Maybe it's time for me to start learning Russian?
The language is similar to my native Croatian, and I already learned the Cyrillic alphabet as a kid.
Since January 2021, a total of 13k merits have been distributed. I'm not sure if there are any statistics to show how many members ranked up during this time.You're a good poster, you might end up with double your merits if you join the board.
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I think it's a combination of both those things. It's the biggest local board with more active members than anywhere else. I just took a look at Rikafip's stats showing the members who were most active in the Russian local. Obviously we have all seen Ratimov around, but I have no idea who D-oN_ is (2nd on the list in terms of activity). Looking at the first 5 pages from his post history, all his posts were made in the Russian boards....]
Yes, they had over 7k+ postings in the last month, which is incredible and only goes to show how passionate the Russians are about their board. The Turkish and German boards are also keeping up with the pace.
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