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Topic: [CHESS] FIDE Candidates Chess Tournament 2022 - page 16. (Read 3233 times)

legendary
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It's also starting to get a bit boring for Carlsen, to be honest. He no longer has the motivation to recharge and go full for the world title. He has been world champion many times and if you take the rating list, he is also ahead of a cartload of points. His only motivation seems to be to break through the magical 2900 barrier once, apart from that he has already won everything there is to win. Firouzja is seen as the new world champion, but as long as Carlsen plays chess it will be difficult. That boy is already 2nd or 3rd in the world rankings. And he's 20 I think.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset


did you stop playing?

a bit off topic but related somehow:
I find it really interesting that there are chess boards of all kinds of prices
from normal popular ones to high-end special ones.
not sure if we have this in so many other markets, watches comes to my mind
Mostly people like Blitz these days and they hardly buy board and go for the online gaming partner.
We all are now phone addicted - don't know what will happen in coming day- but it seems like a serious trouble on our way!

that's true, and fast games are way more addicting
a week ago I decided to play more 10+0 games than 5+0 games for a while
trying to take a break for a couple days as well

as much as I love chess playing online can be really addicting, but the mmr system makes you stay in the flow,always playing with someone who's your level
legendary
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maybe it wasn't that much, but would be nice to look at the data

it was the series that really motivated me to learn more about chess theory and technique and to play more often
same thing for some of my friends

but would love to check online chess websites number of users over time to try to see if there are any correlations
I have learnt a very important lesson from Queen Gambit. And that is you fight your own battle be it your personal life, professional life.
And money is crazy thing - it makes relationship stones hearted and you lose them when you lose money.

Not a bad idea to separate friends from money  Roll Eyes

the series has some details about money and all but imo is not really about it
way more about the main character fight over herself and improvement trajectory
Actually yes, I think that on a personal level one thing is what we live and the other is very different from the way of playing and being able to solve things within a board, just as she thought in the series, she believed that he was in control and that he saw all the moves and it really isn't like that, there are many variants that only other minds see and with more capacity, that doesn't mean they are more intelligent or something similar, but rather the level of training of those players is so immense that they are capable of having such a vision, I have played since I was a child and since I was a child I saw a lot of plays, but then I got very tired, and it was really a great effort.
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did you stop playing?

a bit off topic but related somehow:
I find it really interesting that there are chess boards of all kinds of prices
from normal popular ones to high-end special ones.
not sure if we have this in so many other markets, watches comes to my mind
Mostly people like Blitz these days and they hardly buy board and go for the online gaming partner.
We all are now phone addicted - don't know what will happen in coming day- but it seems like a serious trouble on our way!
legendary
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Magnus Carlsen seems to have completely lost motivation. The format of the tournament doesn't really matter to him at all. He has indicated that he wants to play against Firjouza, but he will then have to qualify for the game against Carlsen. I don't think that FIDE will now organize a world championship game between Carlsen and Firjouzja, then there would be a lot of discontent and anger among other players who also have a chance of a game against Carlsen. But giving the title to the challenger is not something you just do and it is also not good for the sport. It is difficult to solve this dilemma.
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Yes, it looks like it is. Now that he finally refused to defend the title, citing the fact that he has no motivation to waste energy on something that does not interest him. I don’t know if this is good or bad, but now we will see a new champion, and if Magnus takes a break from the heavy burden of the championship, he will have a chance to return in the next cycle. But will he be able to do it, given that now he is more and more interested in poker and (presumably) other things not related to chess.

It is too bad that Carlsen will not defend his title but as others have stated, he has nothing to prove anymore. I don't think he will focus less on chess as he still got some goals left such as reaching the magical 2900 elo number. Maybe in a couple of years, he will become interested again in the world championship also ...
legendary
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Carlsen is someone who likes to play as much as possible. I don't think it's a problem for him if he takes part in an open tournament, just like you have in tennis and football. He wants to beat as many players as possible and then become world champion. I think it's being held back more by the world chess federation FIDE. It will then have to adjust all kinds of regulations and then a lot of things have to be changed. I just don't know which players are against it. But in principle you have a much better chance of reaching the final because then 2 players continue instead of 1.
legendary
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yes, maybe Carlsen level is so much higher than other players that he doesn't want to spend so much time to prepare for a world championship again since it takes a long time and a lot of effort

what do you all think?

Yes, it looks like it is. Now that he finally refused to defend the title, citing the fact that he has no motivation to waste energy on something that does not interest him. I don’t know if this is good or bad, but now we will see a new champion, and if Magnus takes a break from the heavy burden of the championship, he will have a chance to return in the next cycle. But will he be able to do it, given that now he is more and more interested in poker and (presumably) other things not related to chess.
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yes, maybe Carlsen level is so much higher than other players that he doesn't want to spend so much time to prepare for a world championship again since it takes a long time and a lot of effort

what do you all think?
I don't think that's really the case. It just takes a lot of preparation to play for the World cup and as he said, he isnt motivated enough to go though the whole ordeal again. He has been undisputed world champion since 2013 and probably lost motivation to keep it going now as he has nothing left to prove. He is going to stay the highest rated player by the year end again anyways.
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yes, maybe Carlsen level is so much higher than other players that he doesn't want to spend so much time to prepare for a world championship again since it takes a long time and a lot of effort

what do you all think?

With the recent announcement that Magnus Carlsen will not participate in this year's candidates tournament, I think I somehow respect his decision. According to Magnus, here is what he mentioned:

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I have informed my team, FIDE and Jan that I will not play the upcoming World Cup match in long chess, says Carlsen and adds that "I am not motivated to play another World Cup match".

I do think that Magnus does not have to prove to anyone anymore. Everyone knows that he is indeed, the best living chess player that everyone has seen. The fact that he will be facing Nepo once again this candidates just gave him no motivation at all. Remember that the preparation that these GMs undergo is seemingly impossible to imagine, with all the stress and memory that they have to master.
legendary
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yes, maybe Carlsen level is so much higher than other players that he doesn't want to spend so much time to prepare for a world championship again since it takes a long time and a lot of effort

what do you all think?
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The chances that Carlsen will defend his title are close to zero. He wants a radical change in the format of the championship match, otherwise he will give up the title. Given the fact that all changes are made at the beginning of the cycle, the chances that changes will be adopted now are almost zero. This means that Yang Nepomniachtchi and Ding Liren will meet in the championship match.
Few details here.
legendary
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Chess is by far the game more books have been written about through all history, so even if it is nowhere near as popular as many other hobbies and games we see today the fact that chess has been around for thousands of years in several different forms should speak about its staying power and how popular it has been through the ages, and not only that chess is a game that improves memory, deduction and logical thinking so unlike other games chess is in fact good for you and it even offers health benefits like the delaying of degenerative mental diseases.
this is the game of strategy - the mind and the moves. I was very much fasinated  by chess game when I was young. So we gathered money and we brought ourselves a chess board. One of my cousins taught us how to play it. It was fun - we use to play it all the time.
Miss those days.

did you stop playing?

a bit off topic but related somehow:
I find it really interesting that there are chess boards of all kinds of prices
from normal popular ones to high-end special ones.
not sure if we have this in so many other markets, watches comes to my mind
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Chess is by far the game more books have been written about through all history, so even if it is nowhere near as popular as many other hobbies and games we see today the fact that chess has been around for thousands of years in several different forms should speak about its staying power and how popular it has been through the ages, and not only that chess is a game that improves memory, deduction and logical thinking so unlike other games chess is in fact good for you and it even offers health benefits like the delaying of degenerative mental diseases.
this is the game of strategy - the mind and the moves. I was very much fasinated  by chess game when I was young. So we gathered money and we brought ourselves a chess board. One of my cousins taught us how to play it. It was fun - we use to play it all the time.
Miss those days.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
regarding betting, it would only make sense on championships, right?
I mean, I wouldn't really play chess for money, unless it's totally for fun, because it's so unpredictable if you'll be able to win or not since it's a game that relies a lot on skill and practice

Yes, or maybe semifinals or quarterfinals. Chess is really a good one and my favorite among all other sports. It is kinda hard to predict yes, because chess is a mind game, we can say that there's a different strategy that they can use but still it can be countered by an enemy so you can't be sure if even that player shows a good game using a well known strategy the winner of the game is still unpredictable,you should learn basic moves as well do not rely to their skills so you can have a bet.
What are we discussing in this forum? there is nothing going on in Chess there days.
I m not sure if everyone who comes to this forum are interested in chess and want to share their knowledge about chess and their rules.

some users are definitely interested in chess and we had great discussions on chess possibilities, strategies and gambling on the past topics (check first post)



regarding betting, it would only make sense on championships, right?
I mean, I wouldn't really play chess for money, unless it's totally for fun, because it's so unpredictable if you'll be able to win or not since it's a game that relies a lot on skill and practice

Yes, or maybe semifinals or quarterfinals. Chess is really a good one and my favorite among all other sports. It is kinda hard to predict yes, because chess is a mind game, we can say that there's a different strategy that they can use but still it can be countered by an enemy so you can't be sure if even that player shows a good game using a well known strategy the winner of the game is still unpredictable,you should learn basic moves as well do not rely to their skills so you can have a bet.

yes, there's something about having all the information, there are no hidden things in chess so both players can see everything that is happening and decide accordingly.
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Since the Candidates Tournament has already ended, but it is not yet known whether Magnus will take part in the title match, I propose a new vote with the same question )
So far, I have not seen betting options on this topic anywhere, but if someone sees it, please give a link here in the thread. I think that some bookmakers can take bets on this event.
This is a very slow thread -shows that a very few people now have interest in chess.
However I have heard that Jews are very particular about teaching their kids chess - because that makes their mind very active and strong and along side they are very good in calculations and mathematics.

Are you in a hurry somewhere? Chess remains one of the most popular games among all age groups and is also suitable for betting (see previous topic). If for some reason you are not interested, you can pass by. However, I understand why you write your messages and I regret that I did not make this topic self-moderated.
Chess is by far the game more books have been written about through all history, so even if it is nowhere near as popular as many other hobbies and games we see today the fact that chess has been around for thousands of years in several different forms should speak about its staying power and how popular it has been through the ages, and not only that chess is a game that improves memory, deduction and logical thinking so unlike other games chess is in fact good for you and it even offers health benefits like the delaying of degenerative mental diseases.
hero member
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regarding betting, it would only make sense on championships, right?
I mean, I wouldn't really play chess for money, unless it's totally for fun, because it's so unpredictable if you'll be able to win or not since it's a game that relies a lot on skill and practice

Yes, or maybe semifinals or quarterfinals. Chess is really a good one and my favorite among all other sports. It is kinda hard to predict yes, because chess is a mind game, we can say that there's a different strategy that they can use but still it can be countered by an enemy so you can't be sure if even that player shows a good game using a well known strategy the winner of the game is still unpredictable,you should learn basic moves as well do not rely to their skills so you can have a bet.
What are we discussing in this forum? there is nothing going on in Chess there days.
I m not sure if everyone who comes to this forum are interested in chess and want to share their knowledge about chess and their rules.
hero member
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regarding betting, it would only make sense on championships, right?
I mean, I wouldn't really play chess for money, unless it's totally for fun, because it's so unpredictable if you'll be able to win or not since it's a game that relies a lot on skill and practice

Yes, or maybe semifinals or quarterfinals. Chess is really a good one and my favorite among all other sports. It is kinda hard to predict yes, because chess is a mind game, we can say that there's a different strategy that they can use but still it can be countered by an enemy so you can't be sure if even that player shows a good game using a well known strategy the winner of the game is still unpredictable,you should learn basic moves as well do not rely to their skills so you can have a bet.
legendary
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Chess always had good reputation, its just recently it got a bit more popular and been recognized by another generation.
<..>

I wonder how much the Netflix series "Queen's gambit" affected chess' reputation
we know media can shape the culture in really interesting (and sometimes bad ways), in this case it probably affected it but not sure if we can measure how much and in which countries.

Well yes, the series is clearly good, at least I thought it was good, and it makes it clear that the great chess masters who for me are on another level are the Russians, I feel that in the film they focused well on chess, not her genius, but also how important chess is, and that it always takes several to be able to analyze the moves, at one point I thought that those who shared the moves and analysis at that time were the Americans and that those who they did not, it was the Russians, but in the series they focused on the opposite. For me it gave me many things to understand, and with respect to the level of each person, blitz and long games are always good, each person can become specific and expert in what they like the most.I would have to study the endings a lot.


While I think the same for Russians as they are truly the geniuses of the chess game and in this game you need to think several steps ahead of your opponent in order to win the game,in real life it appears that Russians are a country in which the persons can be manipulated very easy by the government as we saw with the war in Ukraine,I don't see any genius moves from the Russian government here.

There are several books,video courses and free resources for people interested in this game,to me personally it is a boring one mainly because I am not that a patient person (with aging comes the loss of patience to anyone) and I like games where the end is determined like in slot games until you win or lose the money or in sport betting in which you know in 90 minutes or 120 max the result of your bet.

I would never sit in front of the TV to watch other people play chess.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
Chess always had good reputation, its just recently it got a bit more popular and been recognized by another generation.
<..>

I wonder how much the Netflix series "Queen's gambit" affected chess' reputation
we know media can shape the culture in really interesting (and sometimes bad ways), in this case it probably affected it but not sure if we can measure how much and in which countries.

Well yes, the series is clearly good, at least I thought it was good, and it makes it clear that the great chess masters who for me are on another level are the Russians, I feel that in the film they focused well on chess, not her genius, but also how important chess is, and that it always takes several to be able to analyze the moves, at one point I thought that those who shared the moves and analysis at that time were the Americans and that those who they did not, it was the Russians, but in the series they focused on the opposite. For me it gave me many things to understand, and with respect to the level of each person, blitz and long games are always good, each person can become specific and expert in what they like the most.I would have to study the endings a lot.


many things from here but I'll focus on the last part

I think endings are even more important than openings
you can get along well using the same opening on each game so you'd just need to know a good opening for whites and a good one for blacks
but endings can vary a lot from game to game, way more important imo
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