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legendary
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Ding Liren's defeat is probably even more surprising than Carlsen's defeat - after all, Carlsen gave up the chess crown, and Ding Liren will take part in the match for it. I think no matter how much Carlsen deceives himself that by giving up the crown he will be able to continue to dominate as he used to in regular tournaments, this is not true. When an athlete loses motivation, it affects the results in all tournaments. Perhaps Carlsen is already on his way out of the top 1.

And what a way to end it, if ever. It would be best if he gets that 2900 rating first before he calls it quits. He's still got a lot of time ahead of him, and he's obviously getting even better as time passes. Sadly, if you stay too long at the top and can't meet someone who's worthy of being serious, you'll eventually lose the drive to continue doing what you do best and I guess that's what's happening with Magnus now. But yeah, I'm still hoping that he reaches the elusive 2900 before he quits chess for good, otherwise it will be a long climb for Ding Liren before he gets that rating.

Considering that only two chess players currently have ratings above 2800 (one of which is Carlsen himself), the task of scoring 2900 looks unrealistic. Even when he announced this goal of his, some grandmasters said that it was impossible. Since then, it seems that Carlsen did not play better, but vice versa. I think that this task will be submitted to the next generation of players, including Firuja, Gukesh, Eregaysi, etc. simply due to inflation (albeit slow) rating.
legendary
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Clearly not Carlsen's tournament. You have a tournament like this once a year. It is a pity that this is now the same at the most prestigious tournament. But Carlsen has won this tournament several times in the past. I remember you need a score of around 10 out of 13 to win the tournament. Carlsen has 2 out of 5, so he will have to get at least 7.5 points from the remaining 8 games to win the tournament. I would bet my money on the player from Uzbekistan, who also became world champion in speed chess last year. Came up at once. I have no idea why Carlsen is playing this tournament so badly. Maybe a dip.
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Anish Giri is easily one of the world's current top 10 in chess, although him winning against Carlsen in a classical match is literally unheard of for the past decade. This win may either mean that Carlsen is somewhat not focused or Giri just prepared extremely for this tournament. Even GM Ding Liren got his lost against Pragnanandhaa in a classical match. Imagine a 2684 elo GM beating a 2811 elo grandmaster in chess IN A CLASSICAL MATCH, IN A TOURNAMENT? That's not something you see every time.

But as always, Carlsen will claw back in this tournament and win this. This is classical chess, and he's ranked number 1 in it for all the valid reasons.

Ding Liren's defeat is probably even more surprising than Carlsen's defeat - after all, Carlsen gave up the chess crown, and Ding Liren will take part in the match for it. I think no matter how much Carlsen deceives himself that by giving up the crown he will be able to continue to dominate as he used to in regular tournaments, this is not true. When an athlete loses motivation, it affects the results in all tournaments. Perhaps Carlsen is already on his way out of the top 1.

And what a way to end it, if ever. It would be best if he gets that 2900 rating first before he calls it quits. He's still got a lot of time ahead of him, and he's obviously getting even better as time passes. Sadly, if you stay too long at the top and can't meet someone who's worthy of being serious, you'll eventually lose the drive to continue doing what you do best and I guess that's what's happening with Magnus now. But yeah, I'm still hoping that he reaches the elusive 2900 before he quits chess for good, otherwise it will be a long climb for Ding Liren before he gets that rating.
legendary
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Anish Giri is easily one of the world's current top 10 in chess, although him winning against Carlsen in a classical match is literally unheard of for the past decade. This win may either mean that Carlsen is somewhat not focused or Giri just prepared extremely for this tournament. Even GM Ding Liren got his lost against Pragnanandhaa in a classical match. Imagine a 2684 elo GM beating a 2811 elo grandmaster in chess IN A CLASSICAL MATCH, IN A TOURNAMENT? That's not something you see every time.

But as always, Carlsen will claw back in this tournament and win this. This is classical chess, and he's ranked number 1 in it for all the valid reasons.

Ding Liren's defeat is probably even more surprising than Carlsen's defeat - after all, Carlsen gave up the chess crown, and Ding Liren will take part in the match for it. I think no matter how much Carlsen deceives himself that by giving up the crown he will be able to continue to dominate as he used to in regular tournaments, this is not true. When an athlete loses motivation, it affects the results in all tournaments. Perhaps Carlsen is already on his way out of the top 1.
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Today the first round of the heavily occupied tournament in Wijk Aan Zee started. Carlsen - Aronian has now ended in a fairly boring draw. But we often see such results in these tournaments, and we will see a lot of draws in this round. There are not that many boards in the strongest group where a color is much better. Carlsen has already said he will not make any statements in relation to accusing Hans Niemann of cheating. Who is not present at this tournament. Maybe for the best, I think Carlsen wouldn't play otherwise and probably other players wouldn't either. The Niemann case is far from over and will continue. He also filed a $100 million claim.
I was unaware that Niemann had taken Carlsen and chess.com to court, and while lawyers can ask for whatever they want when they file for a lawsuit as the court does not really care, and in the case of winning they will assign an amount that is closer to the real damages Niemann could have suffered I still find this to be completely ridiculous, while it seems Niemann may not have cheated in the infamous game against Carlsen, the chess.com report found that Niemann most likely cheated on more than 100 online games, so the description made of him as a cheater even if painful for him seems to be accurate.
I don't understand why Niemann could sue Carlsen, as far as I know he didn't say anything that is greatly damaging to Niemann's image, only a cryptic tweet and a resignation on move 1. Niemann is acting out of defense here lmao, so much that he looks and sounds as if he's really guilty and is trying to pin the blame on the Carlsen and a harmless website who just happened to see that his moves are a little too computer-like. I don't know where this case will end up to but suing chess.com and Carlsen isn't really going to help with his reputation within the chess community. He's gonna be known for being the man with the beads up his ass until the heat death of the universe.
legendary
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Carlsen is clearly not doing well this tournament. The match he won against jet talent from Germany Keymer was still of a high level, but against Giri he took quite a beating. Incidentally, you should not underestimate Giri, who has been among the best 10 players in the world for years and years, so on a bad day you can easily lose to it. We shouldn't write Carlsen off right away. He has 2 out of 4 but this tournament is very long, 13 rounds in total. De Uzbeek has mixed in the world top in a year and is now shared at the top with Caruana and Giri. Today the gentlemen had a rest day, tomorrow they can go again. Carlsen will really have to win to start his catch-up race. I can see Carlsen eventually becoming first, he is normally so much better than the rest and has also won this tournament several times.

Anish Giri is easily one of the world's current top 10 in chess, although him winning against Carlsen in a classical match is literally unheard of for the past decade. This win may either mean that Carlsen is somewhat not focused or Giri just prepared extremely for this tournament. Even GM Ding Liren got his lost against Pragnanandhaa in a classical match. Imagine a 2684 elo GM beating a 2811 elo grandmaster in chess IN A CLASSICAL MATCH, IN A TOURNAMENT? That's not something you see every time.

But as always, Carlsen will claw back in this tournament and win this. This is classical chess, and he's ranked number 1 in it for all the valid reasons.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
Carlsen is clearly not doing well this tournament. The match he won against jet talent from Germany Keymer was still of a high level, but against Giri he took quite a beating. Incidentally, you should not underestimate Giri, who has been among the best 10 players in the world for years and years, so on a bad day you can easily lose to it. We shouldn't write Carlsen off right away. He has 2 out of 4 but this tournament is very long, 13 rounds in total. De Uzbeek has mixed in the world top in a year and is now shared at the top with Caruana and Giri. Today the gentlemen had a rest day, tomorrow they can go again. Carlsen will really have to win to start his catch-up race. I can see Carlsen eventually becoming first, he is normally so much better than the rest and has also won this tournament several times.

maybe taking so long off made him go a bit out of shape
I don't know
anyways it's normal to have fluctuations along the career, we're not performing our best everyday for years to come, life comes in weaves
legendary
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Carlsen is clearly not doing well this tournament. The match he won against jet talent from Germany Keymer was still of a high level, but against Giri he took quite a beating. Incidentally, you should not underestimate Giri, who has been among the best 10 players in the world for years and years, so on a bad day you can easily lose to it. We shouldn't write Carlsen off right away. He has 2 out of 4 but this tournament is very long, 13 rounds in total. De Uzbeek has mixed in the world top in a year and is now shared at the top with Caruana and Giri. Today the gentlemen had a rest day, tomorrow they can go again. Carlsen will really have to win to start his catch-up race. I can see Carlsen eventually becoming first, he is normally so much better than the rest and has also won this tournament several times.
legendary
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Have you guys been watching the Tata Steel Chess Tournament 2023? Yesterday, Magnus Carlsen has lost a game of classical chess (which is vey rare as he usually draws games with the black pieces) against Anish Giri. Anish has been playing outstanding in this tournament, even defeating Gukesh in which I consider one of his immortal games when he sacrificed majority of his pieces to have an attack.

What do you guys think of this tournament? Will Magnus be able to reach that coveted 2900 rating anytime soon or is it something that is impossible to obtain given the current rankings and standings of the players?

I haven't watched it so I went to search
this is the official website for the tournament
https://tatasteelchess.com/

and here you can check the game
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=galDrRcXCY0

can anyone confirm if this is a legit video?
does the tournament publishes the PGNs of games afterwards?
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Have you guys been watching the Tata Steel Chess Tournament 2023? Yesterday, Magnus Carlsen has lost a game of classical chess (which is vey rare as he usually draws games with the black pieces) against Anish Giri. Anish has been playing outstanding in this tournament, even defeating Gukesh in which I consider one of his immortal games when he sacrificed majority of his pieces to have an attack.

What do you guys think of this tournament? Will Magnus be able to reach that coveted 2900 rating anytime soon or is it something that is impossible to obtain given the current rankings and standings of the players?
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
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It's strange that you haven't heard about him - he is consistently included in the top group of grandmasters who play at the most prestigious tournaments and always receive invitations there, you can say that his career runs parallel to Carlsen's.
I don't know much about new stars like Gukesh, Pragnanda, etc. but one of them will probably be able to first surpass Firuja, and then the current tops (simply due to age).

maybe I've seen his name before and forgot about it
I like chess but not the biggest fan, I don't usually keep up with GMs games
it's something I should probably look more into to up my game as well
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Today the first round of the heavily occupied tournament in Wijk Aan Zee started. Carlsen - Aronian has now ended in a fairly boring draw. But we often see such results in these tournaments, and we will see a lot of draws in this round. There are not that many boards in the strongest group where a color is much better. Carlsen has already said he will not make any statements in relation to accusing Hans Niemann of cheating. Who is not present at this tournament. Maybe for the best, I think Carlsen wouldn't play otherwise and probably other players wouldn't either. The Niemann case is far from over and will continue. He also filed a $100 million claim.
I was unaware that Niemann had taken Carlsen and chess.com to court, and while lawyers can ask for whatever they want when they file for a lawsuit as the court does not really care, and in the case of winning they will assign an amount that is closer to the real damages Niemann could have suffered I still find this to be completely ridiculous, while it seems Niemann may not have cheated in the infamous game against Carlsen, the chess.com report found that Niemann most likely cheated on more than 100 online games, so the description made of him as a cheater even if painful for him seems to be accurate.
legendary
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never heard about Aronian before so I went to check
seems like Levon Grigori Aronian is an Armenian chess master

here's his wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levon_Aronian

he had the number 2 position in 2014 on FIDE ranking
quite impressive

It's strange that you haven't heard about him - he is consistently included in the top group of grandmasters who play at the most prestigious tournaments and always receive invitations there, you can say that his career runs parallel to Carlsen's.
I don't know much about new stars like Gukesh, Pragnanda, etc. but one of them will probably be able to first surpass Firuja, and then the current tops (simply due to age).
legendary
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never heard about Aronian before so I went to check
seems like Levon Grigori Aronian is an Armenian chess master

here's his wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levon_Aronian

he had the number 2 position in 2014 on FIDE ranking
quite impressive

This guy's been playing Carlsen for years, and most aggressive strategies and styles were attributed to him because of how he takes the center and focus every piece in there for his development. He doesn't shy away from early trades just to further his development. I think Hikaru once said in his stream that Aronian is one of the few players he know that attacks with black pieces and does not care defending at all. I think that aggressiveness is what earned him his rank because not everyone is prepared for such a tactic in today's day and age when sacrificing pieces to gain development is rare.
legendary
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never heard about Aronian before so I went to check
seems like Levon Grigori Aronian is an Armenian chess master

here's his wikipedia page
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Levon_Aronian

he had the number 2 position in 2014 on FIDE ranking
quite impressive
legendary
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Today the first round of the heavily occupied tournament in Wijk Aan Zee started. Carlsen - Aronian has now ended in a fairly boring draw. But we often see such results in these tournaments, and we will see a lot of draws in this round. There are not that many boards in the strongest group where a color is much better. Carlsen has already said he will not make any statements in relation to accusing Hans Niemann of cheating. Who is not present at this tournament. Maybe for the best, I think Carlsen wouldn't play otherwise and probably other players wouldn't either. The Niemann case is far from over and will continue. He also filed a $100 million claim.

These types of matches often end in a draw. Carlsen with white also had trouble today against Aronian. I think Aronian is the oldest player in this field, which is quite unique. He is only 40 years old. Aronian lost his then wife a few years ago, who had died in a traffic accident. He has a new girlfriend and seems to have revived his chess life as well. But I don't think he belongs to the real world top anymore. There is also a kind of B group in this tournament, but I think there is little interest in that. Those are players who are normally not even among the best 70 in the world. Extra measures have also been taken against cheating, which has been discredited by the actions of Niemann from the USA.
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Today the first round of the heavily occupied tournament in Wijk Aan Zee started. Carlsen - Aronian has now ended in a fairly boring draw. But we often see such results in these tournaments, and we will see a lot of draws in this round. There are not that many boards in the strongest group where a color is much better. Carlsen has already said he will not make any statements in relation to accusing Hans Niemann of cheating. Who is not present at this tournament. Maybe for the best, I think Carlsen wouldn't play otherwise and probably other players wouldn't either. The Niemann case is far from over and will continue. He also filed a $100 million claim.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
Carlsen is a pleasure player. He plays chess because he likes it. Not just for money or business like many other pros do. Much has been said and written about Hans Niemann. Whether he ever cheated can no longer be proven, at least not with hard evidence. You can only make assumptions, but on that basis you cannot exclude someone from the chess federation. And Niemann will of course never let himself be caught and will not take any risks. Soon the Tata steel chess tournament will start, in which Carlsen will also participate. He is the favorite there, but we also get a number of players from the absolute world top. It is also the strongest regular chess tournament in the world.

I agree
and also imagine how much pressure the world puts on him now after all the victories and trophies
that's why I say we should let him rest a bit and do what he wants

c'mon...
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Carlsen is a pleasure player. He plays chess because he likes it. Not just for money or business like many other pros do. Much has been said and written about Hans Niemann. Whether he ever cheated can no longer be proven, at least not with hard evidence. You can only make assumptions, but on that basis you cannot exclude someone from the chess federation. And Niemann will of course never let himself be caught and will not take any risks. Soon the Tata steel chess tournament will start, in which Carlsen will also participate. He is the favorite there, but we also get a number of players from the absolute world top. It is also the strongest regular chess tournament in the world.
legendary
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There's no need to be upset
but do you think Magnus will stop playing at all?
he'll probably come back to competing OTB again in some years
no shame in taking a break for a couple years if he keeps studying.
Of course he'll come back. OTB chess is as essential and substantial to Carlsen as breathing. He'll be nothing without it. He knows that much and is probably making some sort of strat to maximize his comebacks. His games against Niemann took a toll on his mental, regardless if Hans cheated or not, so this buffer of his is important in order to remain sharp and deadly in chess. Going back though, I think it'll be best for him to publicize himself more by streaming his online games, disguising it as live chess tutorials so people become more aware of the game.

I think the same
it's always quiet before the storm
he's probably just taking a break and will make a huge comeback in the future

we'll see

I wonder if we'll have someone beating Carlsen one day.
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