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Quote from: ryzaadit on June 27, 2020, 06:22:12 PM

I see some twitch streamer.

Don't know why right now a lot people trying to playing a chest online ~LOL, this hype. I don't really know how good and strategy playing a chest, to much thinking for me so can't really enjoy playing the game. But seeing some streamer who turned to play into a chest kinda funny.

There's always Magnus Carlsen and Hikaru Nakamura that always stream their game with their own commentary, and it does really help allot of viewers basically to know how a grandmaster in chess think. Nakamura also plays some weird chess puzzles, such as all knights, all bishops game vs a computer and he can really defeat engines.

My comment here before was, what if engines used to cheat? Basically, for low rated chess players, it is a big deal, but by watching Grandmasters crushing engines, chess tournaments online is really possible.

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I see some twitch streamer.

Don't know why right now a lot people trying to playing a chest online ~LOL, this hype. I don't really know how good and strategy playing a chest, to much thinking for me so can't really enjoy playing the game. But seeing some streamer who turned to play into a chest kinda funny.

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Quote from: plvbob0070 on June 27, 2020, 08:21:20 AM

Quote from: babygun on June 22, 2020, 12:35:41 PM

I like playing chess, but watching it is quite boring. One match can take several hours and sometimes it can take up to 1 hour before a player makes a move.
I know some betting platform where you can bet on chess (but they do not accept cryptos).

I kinda agree that only a few people will enjoy watching a chess game since it takes a lot of time before a player decided to make a move. It's not that I don't find it entertaining, but in my place, there's a nearby park where some people are playing chess. But looking at their age range, older people tend to appreciate chess more than younger people. But since I think that younger people are more into online gambling compared to older people, they prefer more entertaining games and sports.

However, it's good to know that chess is starting to gain interest among players. Maybe in the future, we will be able to see a lot of sports betting platforms that will accept chess.

I think the same way too! Its entertaining only for those who plays it and to the audience who knows how to play it. But for me, its kind of boring and silence makes me not entertained. I watch esports that I didn't even know how to play but I still enjoyed it. Its hard just like other esports game but I think the problem is how it appears to other people. And yep, they will still have their audience but I'm not sure it will be as big as other games.

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Quote from: babygun on June 22, 2020, 12:35:41 PM

I like playing chess, but watching it is quite boring. One match can take several hours and sometimes it can take up to 1 hour before a player makes a move.
I know some betting platform where you can bet on chess (but they do not accept cryptos).

I kinda agree that only a few people will enjoy watching a chess game since it takes a lot of time before a player decided to make a move. It's not that I don't find it entertaining, but in my place, there's a nearby park where some people are playing chess. But looking at their age range, older people tend to appreciate chess more than younger people. But since I think that younger people are more into online gambling compared to older people, they prefer more entertaining games and sports.

However, it's good to know that chess is starting to gain interest among players. Maybe in the future, we will be able to see a lot of sports betting platforms that will accept chess.

It will be a good addition as there are only few sports that you can bet right now. So for those gamblers who want to bet even if it is a boring game, they can do so. At least, they have something to watch live on their TV at home and not those old matches. Who knows they can a learn a thing or two, in terms of strategies.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on June 27, 2020, 06:04:15 AM

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People are actually betting on it and most of them do it offline rather than online. Still, I asked my friend about this and he gave me a site which he saw in Reddit posted 7 years ago. I don't know if this is already posted here but here is the site. I also don't know if the site is a legitimate one but it is posted 7 years ago and they are still active so I think it is a legit site.

https://www.marathonbet.com/en/betting/Chess/

I can confirm that Marathonbet is a legit betting site. Good odds and many betting possibilities.
However, since the Belgium law has changed, I don't have access anymore to the site Sad

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Quote from: babygun on June 22, 2020, 12:35:41 PM

I like playing chess, but watching it is quite boring. One match can take several hours and sometimes it can take up to 1 hour before a player makes a move.
I know some betting platform where you can bet on chess (but they do not accept cryptos).

I kinda agree that only a few people will enjoy watching a chess game since it takes a lot of time before a player decided to make a move. It's not that I don't find it entertaining, but in my place, there's a nearby park where some people are playing chess. But looking at their age range, older people tend to appreciate chess more than younger people. But since I think that younger people are more into online gambling compared to older people, they prefer more entertaining games and sports.

However, it's good to know that chess is starting to gain interest among players. Maybe in the future, we will be able to see a lot of sports betting platforms that will accept chess.

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Quote from: Mauser on June 27, 2020, 02:46:04 AM

I really enjoy the surge in popularity of chess. The new blitz tournaments are awesome to watch. I think the change from normal games to 3-5min time slots per player are just awesome. It increased the attractiveness chess to a lot of people who had nothing to do with chess before and then adding streaming on top is just wonderful. Seeing the top 20 chess players in the world thinking and analysing live on the internet the game is just awesome. Betting on chess tournaments should grow in my opinion to make the sport even more attractive.

If the large chess platforms also embrace betting in some capacity, it could lead the market to growing more. People would have more incentive to watch, more sponsors, more money flowing around. And then organizers and event hosts could also see benefits from creating bigger and better events. I could see chess up there with some of the bigger e-sports. A new breed of chess tournament is born if Chess draws some inspiration from modern esports. I'm surprised it took so long for chess to catch up but it's certainly holding up well.

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Quote from: smyslov on June 27, 2020, 02:13:50 AM

Quote from: Janation on June 27, 2020, 12:24:01 AM

I do play Magic Chess in Mobile Legends but I don't think there is a tournament for it for us to bet on it.

Also, I do agree with the earlier posts that Chess is not that popular, despite the rick culture of it originating in the 16th century. I guess people would consider more betting in marble rather than a game of chess.

There are but it's between club to club and city to city tournament, on online there are minor tournaments, but you can always do peer to peer betting
chess is a very silent game but it's one of the most popular sports in the planet roughly 650 million people can play it

https://www.chess.com/news/view/how-popular-is-chess-8306

People are actually betting on it and most of them do it offline rather than online. Still, I asked my friend about this and he gave me a site which he saw in Reddit posted 7 years ago. I don't know if this is already posted here but here is the site. I also don't know if the site is a legitimate one but it is posted 7 years ago and they are still active so I think it is a legit site.

https://www.marathonbet.com/en/betting/Chess/

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Quote from: finaleshot2016 on June 19, 2020, 06:01:08 PM

Quote from: Nellayar on June 19, 2020, 05:56:13 PM

Believe me or not but there are only small percent of gamblers that are interested in chess than other physical sports. I think also that Lebron James is popular than Garry Kasparov.
Casino`s really love bettors and they are after the bets than in sports. If only few gamblers have interest in chess sports then there is only small amount of wagers every time there is a tournament. I don`t say that chess isn`t popular, it is just only small percent have interest to bet. But then, who knows? It may really give an impact to gambling world since a new sport may be added.

Agree on some part that chess isn't popular since it's an old/medieval game but this trend right now will be a stepping stone to make the game popular again.

Twitch is a very popular platform on streaming, so definitely it will be an easy process to make it on the top (actually it's on the top right now). There are millions of viewers day by day so chess will definitely dominate the other games listed on betting platforms. So I'm hoping that online casino or gambling platforms should consider this trend right now, it might give them an opportunity and advantages.

To be honestly, my favorite sports is chess. Well in fact, I was player in my school during my high school days. And yes you are right, we need to make some steps in this sport. I know that everything starts from nothing. But as soon as people (gamblers) will become interested in this sport, it will become the premiere in gambling sports. It just need to start step by step.

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I really enjoy the surge in popularity of chess. The new blitz tournaments are awesome to watch. I think the change from normal games to 3-5min time slots per player are just awesome. It increased the attractiveness chess to a lot of people who had nothing to do with chess before and then adding streaming on top is just wonderful. Seeing the top 20 chess players in the world thinking and analysing live on the internet the game is just awesome. Betting on chess tournaments should grow in my opinion to make the sport even more attractive.

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We had similar topics before, like 4-5 years ago. And as I remember even then some people wanted to play chess for crypto, but there's wasn't such offer from any crypto site, and I don't think that something changed about that. Just a handful of people would play it, so it's probably not be profitable.
There're chess simulators and it would be easy to scam people with them. That's why people who play online chess like fast games, people who wish to scam don't have time to check every move. I would play chess, but some casual chess with some low stakes, because I got rusty over the years, I don't even remember when was the last time I played.

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Quote from: Janation on June 27, 2020, 12:24:01 AM

I do play Magic Chess in Mobile Legends but I don't think there is a tournament for it for us to bet on it.

Also, I do agree with the earlier posts that Chess is not that popular, despite the rick culture of it originating in the 16th century. I guess people would consider more betting in marble rather than a game of chess.

There are but it's between club to club and city to city tournament, on online there are minor tournaments, but you can always do peer to peer betting
chess is a very silent game but it's one of the most popular sports in the planet roughly 650 million people can play it

https://www.chess.com/news/view/how-popular-is-chess-8306

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on June 26, 2020, 11:34:50 AM

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No offense but most people nowadays look at chess as a boring sport. Though I am seeing it being applied in esports but a game mode of it. It was started in the arcade of Dota 2 which is the Dota Chess. It is pretty interesting and addicting to be honest since it is like a gamble where you based on your luck if the heroes you will be getting will follow what you want to build.

Some years back I tried playing chess and also did learned from the friend or must say tried learning the game but soon understood that this requires huge concentration and need to be very focused as you need to know not only your movement but also how the opponents movement and how it could be danger if you move just 1 wrong move in the game. It is very exhaustive game but not my type of it.

Well, its about tactics, strategies, the memorization of possible moves. It is exhausting but it is really fun if you are thinking about how you will be taking down your opponent's king. But it is more fun when they actually apply it in games. Started by Dota 2, as far as I know, LoL also have this game mode and also Mobile Legends.

I do play Magic Chess in Mobile Legends but I don't think there is a tournament for it for us to bet on it.

Also, I do agree with the earlier posts that Chess is not that popular, despite the rick culture of it originating in the 16th century. I guess people would consider more betting in marble rather than a game of chess.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on June 25, 2020, 12:13:00 PM

Real blitz is 5 minutes swiss blitz or 3 minutes game (for each move you have few seconds and you don't have chance for a mistake). 10 minutes it's "fast chess".

I've tried some of those online chess sites - I hadn't realised the players expect the game to be over in a matter of minutes and they get very aggressive in the Troll Boxes if you actually stop to think about your moves for a few seconds.

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Quote from: FlightyPouch on June 26, 2020, 10:38:22 AM

No offense but most people nowadays look at chess as a boring sport. Though I am seeing it being applied in esports but a game mode of it. It was started in the arcade of Dota 2 which is the Dota Chess. It is pretty interesting and addicting to be honest since it is like a gamble where you based on your luck if the heroes you will be getting will follow what you want to build.

Some years back I tried playing chess and also did learned from the friend or must say tried learning the game but soon understood that this requires huge concentration and need to be very focused as you need to know not only your movement but also how the opponents movement and how it could be danger if you move just 1 wrong move in the game. It is very exhaustive game but not my type of it.

Well, its about tactics, strategies, the memorization of possible moves. It is exhausting but it is really fun if you are thinking about how you will be taking down your opponent's king. But it is more fun when they actually apply it in games. Started by Dota 2, as far as I know, LoL also have this game mode and also Mobile Legends.

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No offense but most people nowadays look at chess as a boring sport. Though I am seeing it being applied in esports but a game mode of it. It was started in the arcade of Dota 2 which is the Dota Chess. It is pretty interesting and addicting to be honest since it is like a gamble where you based on your luck if the heroes you will be getting will follow what you want to build.

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Quote from: johhnyUA on June 25, 2020, 12:13:00 PM

The problem of chess is that it has very low probability influence. I mean that it's obviously who would win (if you know players of course) in the certain game, so betting business is to hard to do it. Games where winner is not determined before game start is rare games (world championships), and betting must be often event, like 2-3 games in a week to bet.

For me, i personally playing a lot at chess.com, so i know what i'm talking about

Well at some point, even the top ratings with 2800 are being defeated by 2700 ratings.
There are recent tournaments that GM Magnus Carlsen wasn't on the finals. Same with other online games, there are teams that you knew are undefeatable but being defeated by a rising team, those scenarios can always happen.

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Quote from: Jating on June 20, 2020, 05:42:07 PM

Well, chess has it's last renaissance during the 70's with Kasparov and Karpov, I still remember it being played in the streets as sort of past time that time and then evolved as being used to 'hussle', like 3 card monte.

But I would agree that the game is somewhat boring and bettors are looking for exciting game specially with the physical aspect (contact sports). So I doubt it will have the support specially at today's time wherein football, UFC, basketball is the top pick for sports bettor.

Chess is a very difficult game to get into for several factors, one of them is that to get any insight into the game you need to invest many hours in it and even then the top players play at a level that even other good players have a problem understanding which makes it difficult to watch, also the matches last very long and lets be honest watching two players not moving for hours is not the most exciting thing in the world, however I am sure that if we see another craze like the one we saw during the 70’s then sports books may add chess in the future.

Since chess is on the top streaming right now, those popular streamers could influence others to be interested in the game. The problem is, when they knew the term "chess" they think it as a hard, complex, difficult, and very boring game even though they didn't play the game. There's a mode in chess which is blitz, a 5 minutes game and tbh it's very suspense and thrilling if you knew the game even its basics.

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Quote from: rhomelmabini on June 20, 2020, 09:48:19 PM

The thing is if esports and other sports can be manipulated so do chess and it's more likely to have than the others, match fixing is the one I fear on this kind of thing.

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I would like to close with a disclaimer: sports betting can be addictive and one should not be fooled by attractive offers to begin betting on chess. In the long run, the bookie always wins and if need be he will regain his money when people bet on soccer — which is a real gamble.

https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-bets

Guess manipulations will be less on the top popular chess games. People here seem to think that the smaller/unpopular sport are easy to fix or manipulate. .. The popular ones tend to have more eyes on them, more effective rules and better officiating. This probably applies to the chess

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Quote from: Jating on June 20, 2020, 05:42:07 PM

Well, chess has it's last renaissance during the 70's with Kasparov and Karpov, I still remember it being played in the streets as sort of past time that time and then evolved as being used to 'hussle', like 3 card monte.

But I would agree that the game is somewhat boring and bettors are looking for exciting game specially with the physical aspect (contact sports). So I doubt it will have the support specially at today's time wherein football, UFC, basketball is the top pick for sports bettor.

Chess is a very difficult game to get into for several factors, one of them is that to get any insight into the game you need to invest many hours in it and even then the top players play at a level that even other good players have a problem understanding which makes it difficult to watch, also the matches last very long and lets be honest watching two players not moving for hours is not the most exciting thing in the world, however I am sure that if we see another craze like the one we saw during the 70’s then sports books may add chess in the future.

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The problem of chess is that it has very low probability influence. I mean that it's obviously who would win (if you know players of course) in the certain game, so betting business is to hard to do it. Games where winner is not determined before game start is rare games (world championships), and betting must be often event, like 2-3 games in a week to bet.

For me, i personally playing a lot at chess.com, so i know what i'm talking about

Quote from: acroman08 on June 25, 2020, 10:37:43 AM

chess has a quick game called blitz that could last for only 10 min but the game could last longer if the match has a time increment(I included a link so if your interested how time increment works on chess you can just click it). but in the end, there is not enough tournament or popular enough that only focuses on blitz matches.

Real blitz is 5 minutes swiss blitz or 3 minutes game (for each move you have few seconds and you don't have chance for a mistake). 10 minutes it's "fast chess".

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