Topic: Chess on Sports/eSports betting - page 12. (Read 2274 times)

The thing is if esports and other sports can be manipulated so do chess and it's more likely to have than the others, match fixing is the one I fear on this kind of thing.

https://en.chessbase.com/post/chess-bets

There is even an argument that chess is not a sport because it doesn't involved any physical activity but that's debatable. I know how to play chess but I'm not really into it though. So I was really surprise to see top rank players into Twitch today, good exposure.

But I couldn't see how sports bookies will pick chess though, unless there is a huge demand in the future then probably we might see it on some platform. But is this due to the lock down though? It's going to be interesting to see if the trend in Twitch continue post-pandemic.

Well, chess has it's last renaissance during the 70's with Kasparov and Karpov, I still remember it being played in the streets as sort of past time that time and then evolved as being used to 'hussle', like 3 card monte.

But I would agree that the game is somewhat boring and bettors are looking for exciting game specially with the physical aspect (contact sports). So I doubt it will have the support specially at today's time wherein football, UFC, basketball is the top pick for sports bettor.

Its a sport but not really that much attractive at all and only people who do have idea about on whats chess will really enjoy it out and also it do really involves
critical thinking.

Just said that if theres no demand then there would be no considerations for this one to be included by bookies.Yeah its a boring game and if there were bettors
then i can say that every bets would really be unpredictable basing of that players efficiency towards its chess pieces moves.

We have a saying here in Australia that people will bet on two flies crawling up a wall if they had the chance.  The Portable Apps platform has a number of Chees Games, some of which link into highly competitive online platforms where players take their game as passionately as Texas Hold Em or any other online multiplayer competition.

Indeed, many have only started trying chess due to their boredom in quarantine because most sports that are often crowded had been stop due to the pandemic especially NBA and even boxing (in which recently re-opened in many countries). With that being said, the popularity of chess is still in fact less than what a fascinating streaming game should be. Also, not everyone loves math, strategy and tactics lol


Nope, as I've said, chess only were been used and being popular due to the fact that most gamers and streamers are bored and want to have unique content. I didn't intend to underestimate chess as I've also been a player whom won numerous medals and tournaments in chess. I'm just stating the fact that chess isn't really good for streaming and fun content. AFAIK it was just famous by streamers because of Tyler1 whom aren't that good enough in it and shouts on his videos lol.

As a chess enthusiast, I certainly hope that there is a sports betting platform that includes chess. Even if there is a chess tournament
the audience is very large, and also online chess games are very popular. Maybe some people don't consider chess as a sport.It is unfortunate
if there is no betting platform that is willing to enter chess, even though the viewers are quite high in my opinion. Hopefully in the future
there is a sports betting platform that includes chess.

The issue is not that chess is not popular, in fact if there is a game that has been discussed through history and has the most books published about it that would be chess, the issue is that many do not see chess as a game in which you could bet due to its intellectual nature, as such there is not really too many people wiling to bet on those matches, and as we know by the law of supply and demand if there is no demand from the public at large to bet on chess then casinos do not really feel the need to offer that possibility either.

Most of peoples feel Chess is very bore game but I am feeling its depend on because when we play its really enjoying most of time we have some big group and doing many new experiments with this which help to many players for understanding new strategies and we use good time with this but still its not popular and have not feedback from big communities because they have not good feeling about this game in general.

Chess is not easy game to bet on. It included a lot of thinking, analysis, predictions and similar so it's not easy to predict result. I don't think chess attracts big number of gamblers. I guess that bet only people who play chess on themselves.
For me personaly it's too boring and I don't even consider chess to be a sport so it's never on my list for betting.

Ohh FYI guys, there's a blitz mode which has 5 minutes per player, it's a fast-phased game, unlike those online games you're betting which has 40-60 minutes per fight to know the winner. It's not only about the normal mode that takes a lot of time, obviously, it's very tiring and boring to watch.
I'm betting on those games 'cause I'm playing it too but then I realize, what about chess? I'm not good at it but I find those blitz games really cool tho.
Actually it's possible, some of the tournament that I've mentioned is a blitz game so they can't use the popular chess engines like stockfish, Komodo and Houdini. Players on the chess sites that I've mentioned in the OP are also playing 5 minutes games 'cause they already knew about these engines. Grandmasters are also aware of it, actually, they are using it after the game to review their mistakes or to make a new strategy with it.

Streamers on twitch are also playing a 5 minutes game, so definitely it is possible as long as the mechanics are only 5-10 minutes. It is true that it'll ruin the tournament if the game has 30 minutes per player, they can use 3rd party programs on the other monitor while streaming. If someone is using a chess engine, higher-ratings chess players will notice it quickly for having a weird but a winning move. Stockfish and the other chess engine have a character, they always make odd movements but would definitely win. Chess engines are also playing with each other, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akgalUq5vew you'll notice that some moves aren't human approach.

Chess are similar to League of Legends, Dota 2, and CS:GO which has more mechanics, analysis, and good decision making to win the game. If we're having a hard time on which to bet on a chess game, same goes for those online games that I've mentioned which has a lot of bettors. I've played those games and honestly speaking, there are many mechanics there which is a game-changer so even if you knew the team is very strong, you can still lose your bets. In order to win on those games, you need to study the game items, map rotations, counterplays, skills and so many more.

So most of the online games that we're betting right now have nothing different to Chess, actually, chess is much simpler for not having fancy designs and complex mechanics like those games. Some thought it's very hard and requires a lot of analysis because it's a medieval game but they didn't know that every time an online game releases patch notes (updates to the game), eSports players are stressing themselves to develop another strategy to win the fight.

Yes, it is quite boring but in Russia it is very popular, it's their national sport, it's a good sport for the elders so they will not have issues about being forgetfulness and their mental health improve, with the help of the internet people from all walks of life and anywhere on the planet can battle each other, there are a lot of chess club online and offline

It's a boring game for those who are not good at it, I know a little about this game but I don't bother to improve and gain some skills as I'm not into this kind of games. I grow up watching my relatives playing basketball so it has been my hobby and overtime when I learn about sports betting I was tempted to starting betting in sports particular in basketball.

If we rank chess in the list of popular sports in the world, I don't where it rank.

in the top 25 popular sports I've found in the internet, chess is not included.

https://list25.com/25-most-popular-sports-in-the-world/

Chess involves a lot of analysis and predictions, and I don't think a lot of bettors would want to get involved with the flow of the game. Also, players are extremely unpredictable, and there are cases wherein a player with an elo of <2200 beats someone with a rating of more than 2500. On paper it does not seem like that is much of a difference but on chess, it's a huge gap already. Perhaps PVP chess games with something at stake is your best alternative, but that's already being implemented on multiple websites so I'm not sure what kind of approach this thing is situated with really.

Not gonna lie, twitch streamers that don't know shit about chess who tried hard to learn it is amusing, especially those pitting against GM Hikaru.

It just right that it's become very popular in the quarantine period, one, you can be a participants and not just an audience, you can play people from a different country thousand of miles away and you can post your ratings and how many wins you accumulated, this is a perfect game in a situation we are in.

but op said chess now becoming popular on streaming platforms and also there lots of streamers with them which means many people are also interested on it   .

 we shouldnt under estimate this game and most of all we shouldnt laugh at it just because its now old and many new fun games are now available ,  keep in mind  that without chess , the world would have been boring before  because chess is one of those pioneer games  . by the way i dont know how to play a chess but that is what i see  .

Well said!

Majority of bettors now wont really be that much interested on a very slow paced kind of game.I cant say that its a dying game since theres still someone who do play and theres still interested to it,
the thing here is that it isnt really that big compared to other sports,same as you said.

I cant deny that this is a boring game and only to those who watched into those twitch channels are die hard fans of chess but to count off, its just really a small part and said bookies wont really be that
interested to make up some line just for it.I agree that streaming players can really have that possibility of cheating or fixing up the match.

I agree with @tyKiwanuka because I think too that we should consider also the risk of "rigged /fixed match". 
Most of these matches have a low prize for the winners.
So it's very easy try to fool bookmakers and paying some one just for loose the match. It's the same that applies even for famous sport like football or tennis, but in some countries or certain matches there are very low salary, and in the past we have seen a lot of these scam.

Well, there are lots of bookmakers that offer chess markets. Unibet is probably the biggest one, but there is also bwin, Marathonbet and everyone who copies the odds. As mentioned in this thread, the chess betting community is pretty small, so bookmakers are not willing to spend a lot of resources to offer wide variety of bets. Chess is a bit of a dying game, since not a lot of young(er) people play this fascinating game. And the majority of the sportsbetting folks is between 18-35 of age.

It's a slow game and you would have to wait for ages for your bet to be decided, that is not what the younger people are looking for - everything has to be fast, fast, fast. Quick entertainment like online casinos offer. 

And then Chess is a game, where you have to be a very good player yourself, to be profitable betting it. The game looks so easy, but the strategy and thinking behind it is immense. As a hobby player with poor Elo, you will have a hard time analyzing the games and live-betting will be a nightmare.

Those non-pro streaming players can always cheat or fix matches easily, so bookmakers will likely never be interested in offering odds on it. There would be good volume on these matches, if two popular streamers play each other, but it's too risky for the bookies imo. 

You mean as a simulated game like the other games ? If there's a demand for a certain game it's possible and that's probably the biggest reason why we can't see any big
chess tournaments held online. Also inspecting their PC won't be enough to stop cheating as cas mentioned they could use other devices to avoid getting caught.

There is online chess the links are already mentioned in the OP.