Topic: Child Kidnappings by the Western-European States (Read 72947 times)

Norway has a peculiar child protection (barnevernet) system. At a most insignificant suspicion that a child has bee mistreated by its parents, the child will be taken by the sate from its parents and relocated to an undisclosed foster family. *The parents will then be presumed guilty until they prove that they are innocent, a process that can take up to several years. It does not matter if both parents and the child are not Norwegian citizens - they can even be tourists visiting the country for a couple of days, the process would still be the same.

http://rt.com/news/196532-norway-remove-child-tooth/

Two weeks ago a Russia family working in the North of Norway experienced just that. Their 5-year old son had a loose milk tooth, which the mother helped to remove. The child mentioned that at school and the teacher took the child home, suspecting abuse. The parents were getting worried when the child did not return from school in the evening, but became even more worried when they got summoned by the police to give statements. They were denied their request to see the child, and they still do not know where the child is. Child protection also expressed interest in the younger sister of the boy, but the parents managed to send he back to Russia to her grand-parents, while they remain in Norway for the legal battle to get their child back. All three are Russian citizens, so this is not just a case of kidnapping, but of an abduction of a foreign citizen.

http://english.pravda.ru/society/stories/11-10-2011/119296-norway_children-0/

Norway had about 8000 such cases, 20 of which against Russian citizens. India made a TV documentary, called "Nightmare in Norway" - an Indian child got confiscated from its Indian parents in the same manner after the authorities learnt that the child crept into his parents bed after having nightmares (a child, according to the rules, must always sleep in its own bed).

The state-kidnapped children are often placed in care of families of "non-traditional orientation", which is in accordance with the Norwegian doctrine of de-genderaisation of children. A child should be an "it", until "it" is old enough to decide if it wants to be a "she" or "he".

In those cases when parents managed to prove their innocence, and children were returned, the families were still forced to leave Norway.

So, when visiting Norway with a child, make sure not to anger it so that it does not start tell tall tails of abuse to its teachers and don't feed it from your hands (falls under the transgression of "forced feeding")


This is one thing that happens every where mostly in Africa, yes Africa I repeat Africa it’s quite unfortunate that the media pays less attention to it and focuses more on what is less important to the safety of society, this is where we got it wrong some children are been kidnapped and manipulated into doing what they ought not to do most are brainwashed, trained and cultured into terrorist, armed robbers, fraudsters, assassins and rapist.
 This is what nobody wants to talk about everybody shys away from this bitter truth and it’s absurd the world at large needs to come together and face this great challenge left to be lingering it’s causing more harm than good.

For more than two weeks, Russian woman Elena Shishina did not see her daughter. She was taken away by the authorities of Sweden, where Elena lives with her family. Swedish social services did not like that Elena dared to turn to Russian doctors to clarify the diagnosis of the child.

The Scandinavian authorities regarded the appeal to the Russian doctors as a fact of distrust in Swedish medicine. And the mother herself was accused of excessive guardianship and anxiety.

Elena moved to Sweden in 2002. First she studied there, then worked as a nanny, then got a job in a transport company.

While abroad, Elena met her future husband: a citizen of Belarus, Vitaly Bitel. From him, she gave birth to a daughter, Lisa.

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"I gave birth to Lisa when I was 41 years old," says Elena Shishina. — She wasn't sickly, but she always ate poorly. In Sweden, we asked for help several times, but we were always sent home, saying that the child is healthy, and you are making everything up."

But her daughter was getting worse. Lisa stopped gaining weight, began to have colic and constant diarrhoea.

It was then that Elena decided to seek help from Russian doctors. In her native Cherepovets, she still has relatives. It was during the next visit to her homeland that she decided to turn to the local doctors.

"Tests were made and they found out that Lisa is allergic to cow's milk protein and eggs," says Elena. - I had to change the mixture. And - lo and behold - Lisa's bowel disorder stopped! She began to go to the toilet normally and even started to gain weight."

But Elena's joy was premature. After she and her daughter returned to Stockholm and told local doctors that she had managed to determine the cause of her daughter's intestinal disorder, the guardianship authorities intervened. They regarded her appeal to Russian doctors as a fact of distrust of Swedish medicine. And the mother herself was accused of excessive care and anxiety. "They believe that since we did some research in Russia, we tormented Lisa, hindered her development," explains Elena Shishina. — And about all those medical tests that we did in Russia, they said that it was a lie, and I made up the diarrhoea. In their opinion, we worry too much and go to the doctors too often, and this is wrong."

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Elena was told that after medical procedures, Lisa developed depression, the girl is not well in the family and should be removed and transferred to a Swedish shelter.

"In Sweden, they love to treat all sorts of mental illnesses, so the diagnosis of "depression" is a common thing here. We were not provided with any documents for the removal of our daughter," says Elena Shishina.  "The trial should take place only in 2 months. In the meantime, we were offered to meet with Lisa for an hour once every 3 weeks under the supervision of the guardianship authorities. But we did not agree with their proposal and asked them to change it."

Now Lisa is in a rehabilitation centre without hypo-allergenic food and, most importantly, without maternal love and affection. The Russian authorities and human rights activists have already become interested in the case.

For example, the organization "Russian Mothers" supports Elena Shishina and suspects that the Swedish guardianship authorities want to enrich themselves on the removal of the child. In their opinion, in Europe, children of this age are "a hot commodity", there are queues for their adoption.

The family contacted the Russian Embassy in Sweden. They promised to provide assistance in challenging the court's decision and in reuniting the family.

"The diplomats are in constant contact with the Russian woman. The Embassy is providing her with all the necessary assistance," Dmitry Krylov, a spokesman for the Russian Embassy in Sweden, told TASS. "We have sent a request to the Swedish authorities."

The irony is that in your attempt to be sarcastic, you are actually correct.  For 775 per day, they could live like Kardashians.  Of course thats not the true cost just the cost we pay when capitalism is involved.

You're going to be really upset when you find out giving homes to the homeless and healthcare to everyone are also . cheaper than the cruel way.  Knowing that, some people would still prefer to pay more for torture than saving money and letting these people leave.

Whats next?  Are you going to say the war was cheaper than peace and less extremism?

Right, I am sure the temporary detainment of these people is far more expensive than just letting them continue to flood in by the millions and then housing, feeding, educating, and medically treating all of them on the state's dime right? I can't believe you even tried to make that argument.

So you're all for 'forcing me to pay for this'
a great man once said
Also, Germans did a decent job of controlling their emotions in the 30s.  

Maintenance reportedly eats up most of the $775 daily cost per child for the tent camps, since it's difficult to keep temporary structures suitable for humans in a desert. In permanent facilities run by Health and Human Services, the cost is $256 per person per night, and NBC News estimates that even keeping children with their parents and guardians in Immigration and Customs Enforcement facilities would only cost $298 per night.

Great, so here we are. You guarantee these people the time and resources owned by others. How do you pay for all of this? I know you are going to say just print more money because you think "Modern Monetary Theory" is new or something different than inflation, but this still does not make resources magically appear. This is literally exactly all of the things you just got done claiming you don't support.

The US government has kidnapped tens of thousands of children at the border.  Everything else mentioned here pales in comparison.

  
Please explain, Tecshare, what you mean by "groups". I certainly know that the CPS (child protection services) in the USA are haywire, like the Western European ones, and have seen some small moves by some (Republican) politicians to investigate them. But perhaps you mean someone else – someone joining in to take advantage?