Topic: China's strategy on the Ukraine invasion war - page 3. (Read 749 times)

There is a difference between China going into Africa and being caught in the middle of some African civil war, versus their biggest ally Russia ending up in a sanctioned situation. This is even worse for them, they would prefer Russia to be doing amazingly well so that two communist nations get hold hands and rule the world together. If Russia does badly, that looks badly on China as well and they would also be losing support from a very important ally at the same time.

This is why I have to say that there is a good amount of money lost for China just because of this war, they are probably not happy with Putin's decision but they can't do much about it neither.

China is benefitting from both Russia and the West, hence they need to be careful not to offend anyone. The disconnection of Russia from SWIFT  would make Russia seek alternative payments platforms that exist in China. China would also buy Russian oil and gas at a discounted price in case US stops buying.

Also, China wouldn't want to offend US and its allies because the are the biggest market for Chinese goods.

But we must understand that China always wanted the downfall of US, hence they would always support Russia.

The Russian-Ukrainian War is going incredibly well in favor of the Chinese. The Chinese do not want to get involved in any conflict because the Chinese benefit from a "cold war" between Russia and the West.

But how long can it stay quiet on crisis? Obviously, China cannot directly oppose Russia due to its quasi-alliance with Russia and common pressure from the US, but the Chinese are doing an amazing job managing the situation and are using Russia's aggression to their advantage.
In case of energy sanctions against Russia, China will be able to easily replace the Europe and Ukraine as the main buyer of oil and natural gas that Russia is currently selling, to fuel their economy. China will definitely be a major beneficiary of the conflict in Ukraine, in my opinion.

There are a couple of things that need to be discussed here and seem to be off in the comments.

1. China does not profit from any conflict, at least economically. China has been moving into Africa with its influence and investments and its economy is dependent on the relative stability of the global market, and any conflicts like this slow down and hinder their progress. Now, you might be saying 'Well, Russia will turn to China and become it's that relation will, in turn, benefit China Economically', and yes, something that I will touch on later will be good for China, but an isolated economy that could be on the verge of collapse is not much help to China if the global market is unstable.

2. China will likely not take action towards Taiwan because it saw the reaction the global community had with Russia, and it wouldn't make any economic sense to take the risk of that happening to them. At least right now.

3. China doesn't need to take sides. Actually, their best strategy would be not to take sides but to act as a mediator between the two conflicted sides, serving somewhat as a global police officer (a role previously held by the US), bringing both parties to the table and emergy from it as an ally of Russia but also as a friend to the west and elevating its status in the process. I think that would give them the most leveraging power in the future on both sides. Because of the sanctions, they would get Russia for a song, basically making it dependent on them, and in return dictating their support in the future.

China will act almost the same as United States are approaching this, all nations should be neutral as this is not a good invasion against humans.
I know they're all hungry for power, the Chinese, Russians and North Korea Republic.
One of this side, taking part's will directly Lead to war. China and United States have a close bond/ intimacy when it comes to marketing and trading but I don't think they'll sanction Russia as a result if this invasion.

The best approach for China is to stay neutral and see what happens.
The problem is that the western sanctions will hit both the western economies and the Russian economy.
A new global recession might be coming,which means that the Chinese export of goods might decrease.
China has to prepare for this,by increasing it's domestic demand for Chinese products and service,making it's economy less dependent of the export.
On the other hand,both the Western world and Russia suffering from an economic crisis would be a great opportunity for China to increase it's international influence and the export of Chinese capitals overseas.

The relationship between China and Russia is too strong which will not make China to join other countries to fight Russian in this battle that is going on between Ukraine and Russian. But China will definitely use this opportunity to make a lot of money from Russian for the goods they are going to supply Russian that will make them untouchables till the end of the war. Based on the relationship, China knew that Russian government will definitely need some items from them during the war or after the war because of their relationship they have developed over some years.

Or May be as the war is going ahead china is building up the strategy to sell their cheap arms and weapons and crack the tenders throughout the world. Lolz. You never know what china is doing back at home. I mean I see it as: Every morning china wakes up and thinks let’s get Russia to war on Ukraine or May let make a virus and spread it throughout the world. 

China and Russia being good allies since long time. I don’t think that they will ever interfere with the war. They are just looking at it with business point of view.

As long as Russia remains as one of the top producers of petroleum and natural gas, it's economy will remain stable. Countries such as India and China are going to disregard any calls on an embargo on the exports from Russia. On the other hand, if crude oil prices jump to $185-$200 per barrel, then it is going to destroy the western economies. Even before the war, retail inflation was near record levels in the United States. Now coupled with the COVID pandemic, the rising crude oil prices can have a huge negative impact on these countries.

Sri Lanka is a small country compared to Russia. What happened with Sri Lanka won't happen with Russia at any cost. Russia will make its move with its oil and gas industry. Till date very few countries have the sufficient supply of oil and gas, and there is no big infrastructure being developed for electric and solar energy usage. Russia have taken 17 countries out of its neighbouring countries list, among that China is one of the country.

This show the china nature in this war too.China will stand for Russia, if the United States start to work for the Ukraine.If the war sustain for huge period, the economy of the Russia will collapse. Then china will give the credits to Russia. Once Russia became a depending to china, China will show is real face.China had use this same strategy with the Srilanka. They gave the loan to Srilanka and get one port from Srilanka for the lease for 100 years.

That is not a brand new strategy neither. "Helping" nations that need help and then taking advantage of their future recovery is something economists have done for a very very long time. Think about it like a company, there is a company that does well, but they created too much debt that they can't get out right now, you pay their debts off and get 10% of the company, now for the next 50 years you are going to profit from it and it will be on your papers. This is how Warren Buffet got so rich as well.

This is just national scale of the same thing, a lot more money involved. Russia did it to many smaller old USSR nations, Europe does it for smaller European nations, China does it to surroundings, even Saudi Arabia gets all the money from oil, and spend it on getting more companies. So it is not really a new thing that people figured out recently.

I can understand about this almost 90% of our household are China made.
Just look at the tags of every equipment, gadget or basically anything you can hold, and yes, it is Made in China.
With the ongoing war, they are just observing, but they are happy as Russian financial system has nowhere to go but use China's payment system.
And considering what may happen, China will gain from this war, economically. So they won't sanction Russia for any of this.
They may even get techniques on how to invade Taiwan, though they are pledging to peacefully resolve the Taiwan subject.

https://news.sky.com/story/china-pledges-peaceful-growth-in-relations-with-taiwan-and-reunification-12557918

I had a discussion with someone who is affiliated in the politics in our country. He extensively explained that during the arbitration between China and the Philippines over the Spratly Islands, China was never considering on going to war, although they released and stationed their troops on the islands they "claimed" to be theirs. Like what happened between Vietnam and China, though the latter attempted to "claim" that some of the islands were theirs, the former started releasing soldiers against China in which the latter failed to retaliate.

Again, China will always be there on the backlines observing the spoils of war. They fully understand that almost every country needs them since they are this economic and labor powerhouse where almost 90% of our household things are made.

Yes, it is really known that China and Russia are allies. Although it was denied by China and said they are not allies, but partners and they cleared the speculations about them getting involved saying it is unlikely to happen. However, China is said to be lurking and watching over Taiwan these past few days. I really do hope so that they won't stir another commotion because Russia's invasion is already too much to handle. China is definitely watching and observing from afar regarding the next moves they would do. From the looks of it, I'm betting they won't do anything that would negatively affect them as of the moment because they have seen how countries in most parts of the world given Russia a sanction. I just really wish leaders won't be as coward and greedy. It just becomes so chaotic whenever people aspire for more and more power when they have more than enough.

If I relate your words Chinese strategy with what was said by Former FBI: China is 'big winner' of Russia-Ukraine war, former FBI agent who worked in China warns, this is really annoying, again china is taking advantage of the suffering and economy of Russia and Ukraine.

Now I realize that behind the sanctions, the decline in the ruble and the war between Russia and Ukraine was planned by China, to overthrow the United States as the leader of the global economy, as the FBI says.

I can't understand why it is only now that America, including the world, is only now realizing what I have quoted below, what is it called, that politics is cruel.

Sadly, politics took its toll on both Russia and Ukraine, the FBI is only now revealing that behind all this is China, the worst disaster for Europe.

Or vice versa, China sees potential in Russia that will give him an advantage. Russia is already isolated from the world economy but they still need connections and China the answer, Sanctions for Russia benefits For China, and the most defeated of this war is Russia.
https://www.foxbusiness.com/economy/russian-banks-turn-china-sidestep-cutoff-payments-systems

China has always played a big role and if Russia wins then the opportunity for China is greater to do the same to a country they consider an enemy.

China is going to watch both sides and take every opportunity to make a profit, no matter how inhumane. China has never done anything out of morality, so I would not expect them to start shedding tears over dead ukrainian children. But then again, these notions of mine come from a historical view of what China has been doing the past years and how opportunistic their actions have been.

In fact, if Russia wins this war, they will be on the Russians side. If they lose, they probably will make it seem like they were against Russia the whole time.

No point in saying I do not trust China.

Hope I am wrong.

According to Ukraine and Russia, you can think of China and Taiwan, Ukraine and Taiwan are all involved with the United States, but the battlefield is bloody after all, Russia is not provoking the war for no reason, but the various media I have seen are sanctioning what Russia has done. , there is no real solution to Russia's problems. Ukraine's entry into NATO has broken Russia's bottom line. Russia can only solve the problem in an uncivilized way.

China and Russia have always maintained close ties. The Chinese team is closely watching the war, but has no intention of participating in it. However, China's position is on Russia's side. Russia did not want to be shaken by NATO to its own country, so it took the initiative to resist.