I remember an interview on an American TV show and the question was what is the best way to want world peace?
The host stood in front of the world map and threw the part that belonged to the United States in the trash.
The host is American...
Topic: China's strategy on the Ukraine invasion war - page 4. (Read 721 times)
Regarding events in Russia and Ukraine, it is no different from China and Taiwan. During the war between Russia and Ukraine, many major powers chose to sanction Russia. China remains neutral and chooses to continue trade with Russia, but wants the war to end as soon as possible. NATO doesn't really help Ukraine much.
I, as soon as there is talk of a possible all-out war leading to nuclear cataclysm, believe that China somehow or other is not going to allow it. It is a few years away from surpassing the USA as the most powerful economy, I don't think it will allow everything to go to shit because of a crazy ally. That said, it can't control Putin 100 percent either. Some sources say China asked Russia to delay the invasion until after the Olympics and Putin paid no attention to them, although China has denied it.
In any case it is clear that Russia is an ally of China and USA, I wouldn't say that as of today it is an enemy but a competitor. I think it is in China's interest that the conflict does not escalate further, perhaps dividing Ukraine so that they can continue with their plans to take over half the world.
That assumes that China and its leader is not as crazy as Putin but you are wrong. I mean just in the past decade, china has "attacked" Hong Kong for wanting freedom, attacked Taiwan for the same reason and if I did not hear wrong, they even had some arguments with India as well about a land too. So, China does exactly what we are seeing from Russia. China is further away from Europe so they are not doing it to European land. But they are still doing it in Asia.In any case it is clear that Russia is an ally of China and USA, I wouldn't say that as of today it is an enemy but a competitor. I think it is in China's interest that the conflict does not escalate further, perhaps dividing Ukraine so that they can continue with their plans to take over half the world.
If anyone understands what Putin is doing, that is Xi, because he does the same thing to his neighbors as well. Sure they would want economical warfare over real one, but Putin lost a ton of money to his people because of his decisions as well, so sometimes these crazy leaders do not care about economy and just attack to get what they want.
I, as soon as there is talk of a possible all-out war leading to nuclear cataclysm, believe that China somehow or other is not going to allow it. It is a few years away from surpassing the USA as the most powerful economy, I don't think it will allow everything to go to shit because of a crazy ally. That said, it can't control Putin 100 percent either. Some sources say China asked Russia to delay the invasion until after the Olympics and Putin paid no attention to them, although China has denied it.
In any case it is clear that Russia is an ally of China and USA, I wouldn't say that as of today it is an enemy but a competitor. I think it is in China's interest that the conflict does not escalate further, perhaps dividing Ukraine so that they can continue with their plans to take over half the world.
In any case it is clear that Russia is an ally of China and USA, I wouldn't say that as of today it is an enemy but a competitor. I think it is in China's interest that the conflict does not escalate further, perhaps dividing Ukraine so that they can continue with their plans to take over half the world.
China can and will trade with Russia freely and I am pretty damn positive NATO won't lift a finger against China. The problem is the west can't even afford to sanction China. Yes they half-ass sanctioned Russia (the west is still taking Russia's biggest export which is oil&gas) but they won't even do half of that to China.
People say the west is not doing enough against Russia, we will see what they will do when China invades Taiwan. I'll give you a hint. They will do nothing. Nothing. They will ignore China completely.
People say the west is not doing enough against Russia, we will see what they will do when China invades Taiwan. I'll give you a hint. They will do nothing. Nothing. They will ignore China completely.
China has maintained good diplomatic relationship with both Russia and Ukraine. And both countries are big trading partner of China. I believe majority of people in China doesnt support war. So peace between the two countries is in China's best interest. At this moment the best solution for Russia and Ukraine to maintain negotation, and hopefully this war gonna end soon.
USA's main concern isn't China or Russia rather it's about the conflict that it will produce once they provided assistance to the latter. What do you think will happen once USA helps Ukraine at this time? Just as Haunebu said, it could trigger a much larger conflict such as World War III.
As long as, no other countries or government will be involved between the two countries, things will stay the same.
I do not think that it would trigger something like ww3 if they help with humanitarian stuff. Like if they send food and clothes and when the war is over maybe help with rebuilding and all of that? That wouldn't cause anything, it is the human thing to do and it is what Ukraine needs as well.As long as, no other countries or government will be involved between the two countries, things will stay the same.
I mean sure Ukraine needs war planes and other stuff as well, giving them tanks and ammonization and armor and so forth would be lovely for them right now, but that doesn't mean that food and clothes and heating systems and energy and so forth is not wanted neither, they need everything they can right now and if USA supplied survival stuff then it would be fine. It is the defensive system stuff that would be risky.
After ten years of rapid development, China is no longer the China of the past, but many people do not know much about the China of today.
Neutrality is the philosophy that China has always adhered to. If others don't provoke me, I will not provoke others, but I am asking a question. If Ukraine defeats Russia, will China feel a sense of crisis?
I don't think China will follow b.) remain neutral and just observe. Russia is an ally of China, and China has been in a currency war with USA for years now. So if they have the chance to weaken the west they will do so...
The Chinese government will watch from the sidelines as Russia economy weakens, thanks to the war and international sanctions. I think they will get some preferences, although I do not rule out that China will also join international sanctions in certain areas of the economy.
This is also why USA doesn't want to get involved to deeply in Ukraine, because their main concern these days is China and not Russia anymore.
I disagree. You are over-estimating China and under-estimating Russia. US doesn't want to get involved just like many other countries because it could start WW3 which is detrimental to the entire world.Putin already kept nukes on standby which goes to show that he isn't bothered about the fact that his actions could start WW3.
As long as, no other countries or government will be involved between the two countries, things will stay the same.
This is also why USA doesn't want to get involved to deeply in Ukraine, because their main concern these days is China and not Russia anymore.
I disagree. You are over-estimating China and under-estimating Russia. US doesn't want to get involved just like many other countries because it could start WW3 which is detrimental to the entire world.Putin already kept nukes on standby which goes to show that he isn't bothered about the fact that his actions could start WW3.
Zelensky promised to join Nato and EU before he became a president, that was literally the platform he ran on and people voted for him because they wanted to join EU as well, and that is how he became the president and this was during Trump, Biden wasn't even elected. Then Ukraine officially declared they want to join and only thing Biden could be guilty of would be saying they are fine with Ukraine joining and Russia should back off.
I confirm the condition of the President of Ukraine's alignment with NATO and the EU long before Biden became president, but you cannot deny that the close relationship between the President of Ukraine and Biden is related to an energy business. Since Trump's time, he has asked the President of Ukraine to summon Biden's son regarding his business matters. Is it possible that the political lobby always has us someone in office? I do not condone Russia's actions, but Ukraine must be wise in responding to its country's geopolitical conditions, which indeed cannot ignore the existence of Russia with its strongest army, let alone being a compatriot.
I don't think China will follow b.) remain neutral and just observe. Russia is an ally of China, and China has been in a currency war with USA for years now. So if they have the chance to weaken the west they will do so. First of all I would expect China to block any major resolutions against Russia in the UN. Another step for China could be to directly support Russian. Russian banks will be blocked from Swift and they have no more access to western refinancing markets. China could use this opportunity to give out loans to Russia at high interest rates. In the end China will follow the path that strengthen their own position and not what is best for humanity. This is also why USA doesn't want to get involved to deeply in Ukraine, because their main concern these days is China and not Russia anymore.
I think China sees the currently situation as an experiment to test how further the west is wiling to go to defend an allied country and to stop the advancement of the eastern forces. China is playing more strategical and Russia more warlike through the physical strength. Nevertheless, of course both countries are together and support each other even though China isn't explicitly or formally endorsing the invasion of Ukraine.
If China concludes western forces are weak or give weak responses to the attacks, it's possible their morale will be raised and they may feel inspired to invade Taiwan as well.
But it's everything so unclear and uncertain right now... What at same time is a good thing, as the scenario also doesn't look favourable for those who have desires for invading sovereign nations around them.
Yeh, I think China would be wiser and closely monitor the situation and the outcome of the war between Russia and Ukraine before taking a purposeful action against Taiwan. Ideally, I think that Russia and China have a consensus on the political issue in terms of their "independence". So, I think the world needs to tackle Putin thoroughly with solidarity and alliance to unite additional sanctions. The end result will mark a new cold war era and the respectful world order needs to be taken seriously.If China concludes western forces are weak or give weak responses to the attacks, it's possible their morale will be raised and they may feel inspired to invade Taiwan as well.
But it's everything so unclear and uncertain right now... What at same time is a good thing, as the scenario also doesn't look favourable for those who have desires for invading sovereign nations around them.
The next most interesting and craziest thing about Putin is the statement “putting nuclear weapons on alert and ready” Lol. Will this create a reverse reaction to the new extreme” damn
Will China continue to "silence" before Russia's claims? It is also very suspicious
The reason why Ukraine has become so close to NATO that it has caused Russia to go on a rampage cannot be separated from Joe Biden's behind-the-scenes intervention as US president and his son's energy business being there. China itself is not entirely happy, however the condition of bilateral relations between China and Russia will definitely be in this war directly, which is even more pleasing to the US because they are the ones who pit the two countries against each other even though they are still in the same family and are brothers. The Ukrainian president did not act wisely in bringing himself closer to NATO, regardless of economic and other matters. The point is never to take sides, because he is flanked by 2 blocks that are very heavy in history.
I would guess that the president of Ukraine getting 70%+ vote by promising to join Nato and EU was WAY before Biden became president. If you really think that it was Biden that started all of this then you were brainwashed by Eurasian media as well.Zelensky promised to join Nato and EU before he became a president, that was literally the platform he ran on and people voted for him because they wanted to join EU as well, and that is how he became the president and this was during Trump, Biden wasn't even elected. Then Ukraine officially declared they want to join and only thing Biden could be guilty of would be saying they are fine with Ukraine joining and Russia should back off.
Not like Ukraine had no intention at all and then suddenly Biden said they should, this isn't a situation like that. Russia is the ONLY guilty party here, nobody else, anyone else trying to find a guilty person would be siding with Russia from here on out in my view.
As you can see, China is nothing but happy about this, as they are watching two potential enemies erode themselves and testing their strength. Lots of lessons will be learnt on the handling of this crisis and I would not say that Europe and Democracies are playing a great role in terms of intimidation, yet at least is managing to stay reasonably united.
China is observing the situation and predicting what west will do if they try to occupy Taiwan. But i do not think china would do that. Taiwan is far more superior than Ukraine over technology and Taiwan is far more important for USA than Ukraine. On the other hand china can not allow Russia to lose this war because this will give USA an unchallenged power over the world and they will get back their images they lost in afghan war.
I think China sees the currently situation as an experiment to test how further the west is wiling to go to defend an allied country and to stop the advancement of the eastern forces. China is playing more strategical and Russia more warlike through the physical strength. Nevertheless, of course both countries are together and support each other even though China isn't explicitly or formally endorsing the invasion of Ukraine.
If China concludes western forces are weak or give weak responses to the attacks, it's possible their morale will be raised and they may feel inspired to invade Taiwan as well.
But it's everything so unclear and uncertain right now... What at same time is a good thing, as the scenario also doesn't look favourable for those who have desires for invading sovereign nations around them.
Currently Ukraine is not an official member of Nato, I don't think the US and the West will be deeply involved in war. This does not provide any benefit. If they join the war, the other side of the Chinese front will make strong moves towards Taiwan. That makes them unable to manage. Taiwan is an important strategic part of the US and NATO in Asia. They will not risk saving Ukraine so that Taiwan falls to China. If China concludes western forces are weak or give weak responses to the attacks, it's possible their morale will be raised and they may feel inspired to invade Taiwan as well.
But it's everything so unclear and uncertain right now... What at same time is a good thing, as the scenario also doesn't look favourable for those who have desires for invading sovereign nations around them.
I think China sees the currently situation as an experiment to test how further the west is wiling to go to defend an allied country and to stop the advancement of the eastern forces. China is playing more strategical and Russia more warlike through the physical strength. Nevertheless, of course both countries are together and support each other even though China isn't explicitly or formally endorsing the invasion of Ukraine.
If China concludes western forces are weak or give weak responses to the attacks, it's possible their morale will be raised and they may feel inspired to invade Taiwan as well.
But it's everything so unclear and uncertain right now... What at same time is a good thing, as the scenario also doesn't look favourable for those who have desires for invading sovereign nations around them.
If China concludes western forces are weak or give weak responses to the attacks, it's possible their morale will be raised and they may feel inspired to invade Taiwan as well.
But it's everything so unclear and uncertain right now... What at same time is a good thing, as the scenario also doesn't look favourable for those who have desires for invading sovereign nations around them.
Yea, not hard to understand China's brain. But hard to realize the role and when they will play on the field. So far China will never support those supported by the US. This is basic logic, which means China supports Russia. More importantly, China always looks from where they could take advantage and they just follow their own strategy. However, the war wasn't expected and seems Russians do not intend to leave Ukraine. The war will be more dangerous if the US interferes there. Let's hope to stop the war.
China had a different brain towards the world Statics. This war gonna a influence by the U.S and China.This two country had a influence in many world problem. Their was a hidden secret of this two country may be the reason for the problem too. China gonna a support any of this nation by financial.
Though the Foreign Ministry official of China released their statement towards this Russia-Ukraine war, and seemed not happy about Russia's move, we don't know exactly what they are thinking about this whole scenario. Remember, China wants Taiwan under their control. So it is somewhat the same with Russia wants Ukraine under their control. And some are speculating that China will wage war over Taiwan if they don't get what they want. As they are observer right now, they are monitoring on how the West will react to this war. As of now, they are in standby-mode but high likely that their military is also prepared for what may possibly happen.
China will trade with Russia no matter what, China lacks oil and Russia has an excess of it so they are suited as trading partners from the start. Even with this currently talked about Swift ban, China can swap gold for oil (China is the worlds largest producer of gold now and accumulated reserves for over a decade, Russia also wants to retain its gold as an alternative to USD) though it might be more awkward in a physical way to do this then the electronic means normally done.
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