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Topic: Claymore's Dual Ethereum AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v15.0 (Windows/Linux) - page 272. (Read 6590718 times)

jr. member
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Not sure what you're doing wrong, you should look into that.
legendary
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The victimof:  Since people do their power calculations in different ways, to compare apples and apples, it's preferable to just report power at the wall divided by total number of cards.  That's all that matters anyway for determining efficiency.  By that measure, I've never seen a rig that pulls less than ~120W/card at a decent hash rate.  Za1n's 714W result is impressive, well done.  I find that believable, but I suspect Za1n is at the outer limit of reducing power without a substantial reduction in hashrate.

And none of this actually addresses the substantive point I made, i.e. that at a given power draw (say 1440W for a typical 110V circuit), it's more profitable to mine monero than eth.

Have you plugged your numbers into http://whattomine.com/ to see if that statement holds true ?


You can get the power down further if you get an Intel Low Power CPU, 35watt TDP and a mobo which has better efficiency. And do remember, you can undervolt your CPU as well or lower clocks as well. Even, using one stick of DDR4, instead of 2 is around a 2.58watts saving.

Harder to do on the Intel CPU platform, very easy too on AMD CPU platforms.

I reckon, with that tinkering on the CPU system with a Platinum PSU, his rig would be around 660watts to 670watts.

And, Za1N could choose to lower the settings from 900mv and 1125mhz on the GPUs, for more power savings.

So, he could get him down to 650watts to 660watts

And, that system draw divided by the number of GPUs the motherboard can support - 6-18 GPU variation currently.



Thanks for the info, maybe I'll look into a low power cpu, maybe that can get a rig down to 700W.

660 for a 580 rig?  Any actual evidence of that?

Give up - you're the one who wants to mix up the CPU/RAM/MOBO/SSD into GPU power draw!

NOT SOMETHING THAT ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM WOULD SAY THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

6 RX 580 Ethereum (900mv at 1125 GPU speed)rigs (including the CPU/SSD/RAM/MOBO) are using 714watts with Gold certified PSU.

Platinum PSU gets you 698watts. Low power CPU gets you to 673 watts. And, 850mv and 1100GPU speed will get the watts down to 660 watts.

Stop trying to make out it's difficult to do.


I've just never seen it.  Throwing out hypothetical calculations or extrapolating is all well and good, and maybe it's possible in principle.

Is there evidence of a stable 6 card 580 rig hashing above 170 on eth drawing 660 at the wall?  One that exists physically, not just on paper.

Metroid and xxcsu both seem to think that 120 to 130 at the wall is about right:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rx480580-cards-real-power-draw-1000-watts-psu-for-a-5-6-7-rx-480-builds-2238455

I just checked my g3900 cpu, it uses 8W max while mining.  Not a lot of savings there.

I have tested a lot of CPUs!
 
For example, Pentium G4560 - loaded up with CPU miner to max it's power draw out, had an 11watt increase in power consumption when compared to not using the CPU miner whilst mining Ethereum with GPUs (measured at the wall).

THIS IS THE ONLY WAY TO KNOW WHAT WATTS A CPU IS DOING WHEN MINING - MAX OUT THE CPU POWER DRAW AND MEASURE THE DIFFERENCES AT THE WALL.

Pentium G4560 (Max TDP is 54watts) - it uses 43watts when just handling the GPU mining throughputs for Ethereum.

Not sure, how you can imagine a Celeron 3900 is doing 8watts when mining Ethereum with GPUs, when the Pentium G4560 I tested used 43watts.

Turning to the thread you cited - there are people on that ANN disputing the author's skills and findings.

Kronos21 "You show the results of the GPU with the original BIOS. I have all the GPU is a modified BIOS. The speed of mining Ethereum 29 Mh/s. The maximum consumption I have 110 watts. This is when dual mining ETH+DCR. If only mine ETH the energy consumption drops to 88 watts. My rig is a 6 GPU and I use a 1000 watt power supply."

jr. member
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The victimof:  Since people do their power calculations in different ways, to compare apples and apples, it's preferable to just report power at the wall divided by total number of cards.  That's all that matters anyway for determining efficiency.  By that measure, I've never seen a rig that pulls less than ~120W/card at a decent hash rate.  Za1n's 714W result is impressive, well done.  I find that believable, but I suspect Za1n is at the outer limit of reducing power without a substantial reduction in hashrate.

And none of this actually addresses the substantive point I made, i.e. that at a given power draw (say 1440W for a typical 110V circuit), it's more profitable to mine monero than eth.

Have you plugged your numbers into http://whattomine.com/ to see if that statement holds true ?


You can get the power down further if you get an Intel Low Power CPU, 35watt TDP and a mobo which has better efficiency. And do remember, you can undervolt your CPU as well or lower clocks as well. Even, using one stick of DDR4, instead of 2 is around a 2.58watts saving.

Harder to do on the Intel CPU platform, very easy too on AMD CPU platforms.

I reckon, with that tinkering on the CPU system with a Platinum PSU, his rig would be around 660watts to 670watts.

And, Za1N could choose to lower the settings from 900mv and 1125mhz on the GPUs, for more power savings.

So, he could get him down to 650watts to 660watts

And, that system draw divided by the number of GPUs the motherboard can support - 6-18 GPU variation currently.



Thanks for the info, maybe I'll look into a low power cpu, maybe that can get a rig down to 700W.

660 for a 580 rig?  Any actual evidence of that?

Give up - you're the one who wants to mix up the CPU/RAM/MOBO/SSD into GPU power draw!

NOT SOMETHING THAT ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM WOULD SAY THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

6 RX 580 Ethereum (900mv at 1125 GPU speed)rigs (including the CPU/SSD/RAM/MOBO) are using 714watts with Gold certified PSU.

Platinum PSU gets you 698watts. Low power CPU gets you to 673 watts. And, 850mv and 1100GPU speed will get the watts down to 660 watts.

Stop trying to make out it's difficult to do.


I've just never seen it.  Throwing out hypothetical calculations or extrapolating is all well and good, and maybe it's possible in principle.

Is there evidence of a stable 6 card 580 rig hashing above 170 on eth drawing 660 at the wall?  One that exists physically, not just on paper.

Metroid and xxcsu both seem to think that 120 to 130 at the wall is about right:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/rx480580-cards-real-power-draw-1000-watts-psu-for-a-5-6-7-rx-480-builds-2238455

I just checked my g3900 cpu, it uses 8W max while mining.  Not a lot of savings there.
newbie
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Can someone help me with a bat file to extract the GPU info into a text file -similar info which is seen when you enter "S"  on the console
I want to do it local on the computer and do not want to use the remote
jr. member
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using the latest version. Having 6 RX480 and 1 1070 cards.

I used to mine ETH with about 28 MH/s on each card then I switched to altcoins and getting until today a stable 200 MH/s with my 7 cards (28 per card).
Now switched back to ETH and getting only 17 MH/s on my RX480 and still 28 on my 1070 now.
All cards have 8 GB memory.

Any ideas what is wrong?

Thx
SJ

Which amd driver version?
newbie
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using the latest version. Having 6 RX480 and 1 1070 cards.

I used to mine ETH with about 28 MH/s on each card then I switched to altcoins and getting until today a stable 200 MH/s with my 7 cards (28 per card).
Now switched back to ETH and getting only 17 MH/s on my RX480 and still 28 on my 1070 now.
All cards have 8 GB memory.

Any ideas what is wrong?

Thx
SJ
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Ethereum Miner
Claymore 11.5 is much more stable with lower stale shares on dual mining ETH+XVG 8gpu RX580, win10 64 rig.

what total hash are you getting for ETH and what's for XVG?
Average stale shares per hour if you may.

I get 249mhs for ETH and  12465mhs for XVG. On 11.5 i get 1-2 stale share, on 11.6 i had 4-7 stales.

Wow 249 Mh for 8x cards? Are these Nitro Special Editions?

After 24hrs mining with 11.5, I get constant 241.5 eth and 12100 xvg with 1-2% stale shares. This is way better than 11.2 that i've been running.
jr. member
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The victimof:  Since people do their power calculations in different ways, to compare apples and apples, it's preferable to just report power at the wall divided by total number of cards.  That's all that matters anyway for determining efficiency.  By that measure, I've never seen a rig that pulls less than ~120W/card at a decent hash rate.  Za1n's 714W result is impressive, well done.  I find that believable, but I suspect Za1n is at the outer limit of reducing power without a substantial reduction in hashrate.

And none of this actually addresses the substantive point I made, i.e. that at a given power draw (say 1440W for a typical 110V circuit), it's more profitable to mine monero than eth.

Have you plugged your numbers into http://whattomine.com/ to see if that statement holds true ?


You can get the power down further if you get an Intel Low Power CPU, 35watt TDP and a mobo which has better efficiency. And do remember, you can undervolt your CPU as well or lower clocks as well. Even, using one stick of DDR4, instead of 2 is around a 2.58watts saving.

Harder to do on the Intel CPU platform, very easy too on AMD CPU platforms.

I reckon, with that tinkering on the CPU system with a Platinum PSU, his rig would be around 660watts to 670watts.

And, Za1N could choose to lower the settings from 900mv and 1125mhz on the GPUs, for more power savings.

So, he could get him down to 650watts to 660watts

And, that system draw divided by the number of GPUs the motherboard can support - 6-18 GPU variation currently.



Thanks for the info, maybe I'll look into a low power cpu, maybe that can get a rig down to 700W.

660 for a 580 rig?  Any actual evidence of that?

Give up - you're the one who wants to mix up the CPU/RAM/MOBO/SSD into GPU power draw!

NOT SOMETHING THAT ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM WOULD SAY THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

6 RX 580 Ethereum (900mv at 1125 GPU speed)rigs (including the CPU/SSD/RAM/MOBO) are using 714watts with Gold certified PSU.

Platinum PSU gets you 698watts. Low power CPU gets you to 673 watts. And, 850mv and 1100GPU speed will get the watts down to 660 watts.

Stop trying to make out it's difficult to do.


I've just never seen it.  Throwing out hypothetical calculations or extrapolating is all well and good, and maybe it's possible in principle.

Is there evidence of a stable 6 card 580 rig hashing above 170 on eth drawing 660 at the wall?  One that exists physically, not just on paper.
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Thanks for your quick reply!

I am not sure about my OC, due to i just flash the bios, with the bios of somebody else! and the rig works for more than 7 months

I don't think that temperature is the issue, due to, the rig if working now with 2 GPU at the same temperature around 74c.

there is any way to test the power supply?, it means, it look ok, but it look that when the rig demand load, the crash occurs

thanks
                                                                                    
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76C seems a little warm for start up. What OC do you have these set to? How about undervolting?

Turn the rig off, leave it off for 2 minutes. Turn it on. See if that helps. If it doesn't set the cards in question (that are not working) back to default speeds and see if that works, then OC slowly from there.
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It might have been answered already, or it might have not been;

On rigs with 9+ cards, how do I turn off card nr 10 and above? Even from command line when I use -di 0123456789, how to turn on or off those cards that are numbered higher than 9?

abcdef

cheers thanks
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19:01:06:633   12f4   ETH - Total Speed: 77.502 Mh/s, Total Shares: 2, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:03
19:01:06:634   12f4   ETH: GPU0 28.916 Mh/s, GPU1 28.978 Mh/s, GPU2 19.607 Mh/s
19:01:06:848   1d4c   GPU0 t=76C fan=45%, GPU1 t=76C fan=54%, GPU2 t=73C fan=31%                                                                                            

76C seems a little warm for start up. What OC do you have these set to? How about undervolting?

Turn the rig off, leave it off for 2 minutes. Turn it on. See if that helps. If it doesn't set the cards in question (that are not working) back to default speeds and see if that works, then OC slowly from there.
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Can anyone tell me what the c=xvg means in dual mining bat file for verge mining?

Its a pools configuration, some pools offers different type of currency payouts, basically c=[Corresponds to your wallet type]

copied this from pools


"YOU MUST ALWAYS set your currency in your password field that matches your wallet address: c=. The pool has mined hundreds of different coins and many have the same address version. We CAN NOT read your mind and possible know what currency you want. If no c= is set, your currency will be randomly chosen from any matching coins we have used. This HAS TO BE A REAL EXCHANGE SYMBOL. Do not use a symbol that has an added. Such as XVG-blake2s or AUR-sha or DGB-skein, these are ALL WRONG. These are used only for the pool to support multi-algo coins. "
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Hi Guys,

Mine RIG setup is

6 XFX AMD R580 black edition with driver version 18.3.2
asrock H110
corsair HX1200i
running windows 10
running claymore 11.5 and also tried with 11.6

and this is start.bat file

setx GPU_FORCE_64BIT_PTR 0
setx GPU_MAX_HEAP_SIZE 100
setx GPU_USE_SYNC_OBJECTS 1
setx GPU_MAX_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
setx GPU_SINGLE_ALLOC_PERCENT 100
EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal . -epsw x -etha 0

Since 5 or 6 days ago, my rig stopped and the windows auto restart, I checked the log file, and it look like the rig crash when need to open the DAG, here a portion of the logs:

15:15:57:508   1fb4   GPU #3: Ellesmere (Radeon RX 580 Series), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 8:0:0)
15:15:57:509   1fb4   GPU #3 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580
15:15:57:515   1fb4   GPU #4: Ellesmere (Radeon RX 580 Series), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 9:0:0)
15:15:57:517   1fb4   GPU #4 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580
15:15:57:520   1fb4   GPU #5: Ellesmere (Radeon RX 580 Series), 8192 MB available, 36 compute units (pci bus 10:0:0)
15:15:57:520   1fb4   GPU #5 recognized as Radeon RX 480/580
15:15:57:520   1fb4   POOL/SOLO version
15:15:57:521   1fb4   Platform: Windows
15:15:57:611   1fb4   start building OpenCL program for GPU 0...
15:15:57:972   1fb4   done
15:15:58:176   1fb4   start building OpenCL program for GPU 1...
15:15:58:473   1fb4   done
15:15:58:677   1fb4   start building OpenCL program for GPU 2...
15:15:59:019   1fb4   done
15:15:59:223   1fb4   start building OpenCL program for GPU 3...
15:15:59:508   1fb4   done
15:15:59:712   1fb4   start building OpenCL program for GPU 4...
15:16:00:042   1fb4   done    

HERE STOPPED!


after read a lot around the forum, I added some instruction in the line command


EthDcrMiner64.exe -epool eu1.ethermine.org:4444 -ewal .  -epsw x -etha 0 -gser 5 -lidag 1 -eres 0

wish it help a little bit, but still getting stop, as is showing below:

19:01:06:633   12f4   ETH - Total Speed: 77.502 Mh/s, Total Shares: 2, Rejected: 0, Time: 00:03
19:01:06:634   12f4   ETH: GPU0 28.916 Mh/s, GPU1 28.978 Mh/s, GPU2 19.607 Mh/s
19:01:06:848   1d4c   GPU0 t=76C fan=45%, GPU1 t=76C fan=54%, GPU2 t=73C fan=31%
19:01:07:382   1980   em hbt: 0, fm hbt: 31,
19:01:07:382   1980   watchdog - thread 0 (gpu0), hb time 78
19:01:07:382   1980   watchdog - thread 1 (gpu0), hb time 406
19:01:07:382   1980   watchdog - thread 2 (gpu1), hb time 78
19:01:07:382   1980   watchdog - thread 3 (gpu1), hb time 422
19:01:07:382   1980   watchdog - thread 4 (gpu2), hb time 265
19:01:07:382   1980   watchdog - thread 5 (gpu2), hb time 750
19:01:14:158   12f4   sent: {"id":6,"jsonrpc":"2.0","method":"eth_submitHashrate","params":["0x49af62b", "0x000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000002c760feb"]}

19:01:14:345   12f4   ETH: checking pool connection...
19:01:14:345   12f4   sent: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

19:01:14:490   12f4   buf: {"id":6,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":true}

19:01:14:823   12f4   buf: {"id":3,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0xa0cd05c02ed59c43f310151b330ad707a3fef3f041618b1223477cc69b38ae25","0x38d7e4b9c575aa9a9da222b486ac059e7cfa04c61fb1dd58c432b72ce19ff04c","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x52f432"]}

19:01:24:361   12f4   ETH: checking pool connection...
19:01:24:361   12f4   sent: {"worker": "", "jsonrpc": "2.0", "params": [], "id": 3, "method": "eth_getWork"}

19:01:24:695   12f4   buf: {"id":3,"jsonrpc":"2.0","result":["0xa0cd05c02ed59c43f310151b330ad707a3fef3f041618b1223477cc69b38ae25","0x38d7e4b9c575aa9a9da222b486ac059e7cfa04c61fb1dd58c432b72ce19ff04c","0x0112e0be826d694b2e62d01511f12a6061fbaec8bc02357593e70e52ba","0x52f432"]}


Now, I disable 4 GPUs, and the rig is working ok, with only 2 GPU, so, I would say that the problem is on the power supply, but visually inspection, looks ok.

Any ideas, of what could happen with my rig?

Thanks in advance                                                                                                    
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Hi Gents,
Anyone using Claymore v11.6 on ethOS 1.3.1?
Since the latest update of the miner to v11.6 I am loosing connectivity for monitoring the miner on port 3333 after 15-21 hours of mining.
While Claymore keeps mining with no troubles only the monitoring is an issue. If I restart the mining process the monitoring is restored. I had no issue with the previous updates.
Tried to set the port manually but the problem still exist.
Anyone else experiencing this issue or has a solution?
Thanks in advance.

I just confirmed this issue and uploaded a fix: "Claymore's Dual Ethereum+Decred_Siacoin_Lbry_Pascal_Blake2s_Keccak AMD+NVIDIA GPU Miner v11.6 - LINUX - quickfix.tar.gz"
To confirm that you use updated version, find "b573" in the beginning of the log file (original v11.6 writes "b571").
This issue is related to Linux version only.

Thanks.
I am not sure if I would like to disturb my ethOS with custom updates as it might disturb future updates.
Is there a way to restart the monitoring without restarting the miner in ethOS/Linux?
member
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I think that the DCR pool is reserved for Asic now. Cost of the additional energy to run DM for DCR is above what you will get in mining. DM something else
newbie
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Hi,  I have troubles whilst mining ETH&DCR,  Claymore sofware is working fine, I get all my stats on ehterminer, but I don't get anything from supernova, I made a post not long ago, some one give me a configuration code for dual mining, I run Claymore and its starts to mine, it gives me information on hashrates shares etc etc, but no balance, shares or anything on supper nova, can you help me figure out what the problem is?
newbie
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Can anyone tell me what the c=xvg means in dual mining bat file for verge mining?
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The victimof:  Since people do their power calculations in different ways, to compare apples and apples, it's preferable to just report power at the wall divided by total number of cards.  That's all that matters anyway for determining efficiency.  By that measure, I've never seen a rig that pulls less than ~120W/card at a decent hash rate.  Za1n's 714W result is impressive, well done.  I find that believable, but I suspect Za1n is at the outer limit of reducing power without a substantial reduction in hashrate.

And none of this actually addresses the substantive point I made, i.e. that at a given power draw (say 1440W for a typical 110V circuit), it's more profitable to mine monero than eth.

Have you plugged your numbers into http://whattomine.com/ to see if that statement holds true ?


You can get the power down further if you get an Intel Low Power CPU, 35watt TDP and a mobo which has better efficiency. And do remember, you can undervolt your CPU as well or lower clocks as well. Even, using one stick of DDR4, instead of 2 is around a 2.58watts saving.

Harder to do on the Intel CPU platform, very easy too on AMD CPU platforms.

I reckon, with that tinkering on the CPU system with a Platinum PSU, his rig would be around 660watts to 670watts.

And, Za1N could choose to lower the settings from 900mv and 1125mhz on the GPUs, for more power savings.

So, he could get him down to 650watts to 660watts

And, that system draw divided by the number of GPUs the motherboard can support - 6-18 GPU variation currently.



Thanks for the info, maybe I'll look into a low power cpu, maybe that can get a rig down to 700W.

660 for a 580 rig?  Any actual evidence of that?

Give up - you're the one who wants to mix up the CPU/RAM/MOBO/SSD into GPU power draw!

NOT SOMETHING THAT ANYONE ELSE ON THIS FORUM WOULD SAY THAT MAKES ANY SENSE.

6 RX 580 Ethereum (900mv at 1125 GPU speed)rigs (including the CPU/SSD/RAM/MOBO) are using 714watts with Gold certified PSU.

Platinum PSU gets you 698watts. Low power CPU gets you to 673 watts. And, 850mv and 1100GPU speed will get the watts down to 660 watts.

Stop trying to make out it's difficult to do.
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Question guys... In order to use the api and reboot the pc using .../miner_reboot

Do I have to explicitly specify the port as -mport 3333 (with no -)? Yup, I'm aware if I do this to also add a password...
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The victimof:  Since people do their power calculations in different ways, to compare apples and apples, it's preferable to just report power at the wall divided by total number of cards.  That's all that matters anyway for determining efficiency.  By that measure, I've never seen a rig that pulls less than ~120W/card at a decent hash rate.  Za1n's 714W result is impressive, well done.  I find that believable, but I suspect Za1n is at the outer limit of reducing power without a substantial reduction in hashrate.

And none of this actually addresses the substantive point I made, i.e. that at a given power draw (say 1440W for a typical 110V circuit), it's more profitable to mine monero than eth.

Have you plugged your numbers into http://whattomine.com/ to see if that statement holds true ?


You can get the power down further if you get an Intel Low Power CPU, 35watt TDP and a mobo which has better efficiency. And do remember, you can undervolt your CPU as well or lower clocks as well. Even, using one stick of DDR4, instead of 2 is around a 2.58watts saving.

Harder to do on the Intel CPU platform, very easy too on AMD CPU platforms.

I reckon, with that tinkering on the CPU system with a Platinum PSU, his rig would be around 660watts to 670watts.

And, Za1N could choose to lower the settings from 900mv and 1125mhz on the GPUs, for more power savings.

So, he could get him down to 650watts to 660watts

And, that system draw divided by the number of GPUs the motherboard can support - 6-18 GPU variation currently.



Thanks for the info, maybe I'll look into a low power cpu, maybe that can get a rig down to 700W.

660 for a 580 rig?  Any actual evidence of that?
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