Nvidia miners don't use Claymore's ZCash to mine so there is no 2,5% fee added to Nicehash's fee...
My bad... yeah no 2.5% claymore fees for n miner but still 3% from NH.
I'll let the mathematicians do the work.
still amd is best bang for buck imo.
Topic: Claymore's ZCash/BTG AMD GPU Miner v12.6 (Windows/Linux) - page 285. (Read 3839163 times)
My bad... yeah no 2.5% claymore fees for n miner but still 3% from NH.
I'll let the mathematicians do the work.
still amd is best bang for buck imo.
Nvidia miners don't use Claymore's ZCash to mine so there is no 2,5% fee added to Nicehash's fee...
nvidia fan boys, DO NOT forget to take the Not-soNiceHash fees into account !
all other pools fees are 1% or lower
not-o-nicehash fees are 3%
so if u add claymore fees 2% is you are on SSL 2% + 3% on Not-o-nicehash = 5% !!!
on the other hand amd fanboys, 2% claymore + any other pools beside not-o-nicehash is only 1% or lower so total is 3% fees
regardless, nvidia have to pay 2% more fees than amd !
stand to be corrected that nvidia is ONLY locked to nh miner on nh pool & only able to achieve higher hashrates.
as for amd it works on all platforms or miner but gets same hashpower .
amd still ftw, for now.
all other pools fees are 1% or lower
not-o-nicehash fees are 3%
so if u add claymore fees 2% is you are on SSL 2% + 3% on Not-o-nicehash = 5% !!!
on the other hand amd fanboys, 2% claymore + any other pools beside not-o-nicehash is only 1% or lower so total is 3% fees
regardless, nvidia have to pay 2% more fees than amd !
stand to be corrected that nvidia is ONLY locked to nh miner on nh pool & only able to achieve higher hashrates.
as for amd it works on all platforms or miner but gets same hashpower .
amd still ftw, for now.
No, now 430 hash for 1070...
See edits. Still isn't worth it...
Further Edit:
Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
Edit: Edit:
Card Price Hash/s Power (W) H/$
1070 $400 380 100 0.95
Fury $260 300 100 1.15
Full Bore Setup
Card Price Hash/s H/$
1070 $400 430 1.075
Fury $260 350 1.346
The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look. The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.
it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong. AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore. Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$. AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.
Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash
you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better
You are right, Amph. Also, real prices are not listed. AMD Fury is much more than a listed prices. Here is the actual price at the same shop in the EU:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Graphics-Video-Cards/27386/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fury&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-R9-Fury-100379NTOC-SR-4GB-4096-Bit-HBM-TRI-X-OC-UEFI-Vi-/291648915692?hash=item43e7a148ec:g:A8QAAOSwu1VW7qbd
, also on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
btw I never bought or tried fury as I know its consume 300W so I prefer to buy 290 or 290x @ 200USD (used). So i wonder if fury consumes 100W
man read the description, that gpu was tested, tested for me is equal to used, it's not brand new then, so the comparison must be done with a used 1070
a used 1070 can be found for 300-350 at worst
it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
With what miner?
with the nicehash miner
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
Fury is $260 retail.
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
There is also 0% fee during the holidays on https://zec.suprnova.cc in case you want so save some fees. SSL port is of course also available
Don't worry, won't be the last promo
No, now 430 hash for 1070...
See edits. Still isn't worth it...
Further Edit:
Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
Edit: Edit:
Card Price Hash/s Power (W) H/$
1070 $400 380 100 0.95
Fury $260 300 100 1.15
Full Bore Setup
Card Price Hash/s H/$
1070 $400 430 1.075
Fury $260 350 1.346
The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look. The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.
it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong. AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore. Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$. AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.
Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash
you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better
You are right, Amph. Also, real prices are not listed. AMD Fury is much more than a listed prices. Here is the actual price at the same shop in the EU:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/Graphics-Video-Cards/27386/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=fury&rt=nc
http://www.ebay.com/itm/SAPPHIRE-NITRO-Radeon-R9-Fury-100379NTOC-SR-4GB-4096-Bit-HBM-TRI-X-OC-UEFI-Vi-/291648915692?hash=item43e7a148ec:g:A8QAAOSwu1VW7qbd
, also on newegg:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186
btw I never bought or tried fury as I know its consume 300W so I prefer to buy 290 or 290x @ 200USD (used). So i wonder if fury consumes 100W
man read the description, that gpu was tested, tested for me is equal to used, it's not brand new then, so the comparison must be done with a used 1070
a used 1070 can be found for 300-350 at worst
it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
With what miner?
with the nicehash miner
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haha amd noobs, show me thats 325 sol in nano at 90watt?? show me yur wattmeter, lol
Can't argue with the math on the Fury so you latch onto the Nano and insult. You seem to be exhibiting the 5 stages of grief. I've seen denial, bargaining, and anger. Looks like depression is next for you.
How about you show us some math that demonstrates the 1070 is more profitable. If you can't math, move along.
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
There is also 0% fee during the holidays on https://zec.suprnova.cc in case you want so save some fees. SSL port is of course also available
What did I do wrong ? : no of mining
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
There is also 0% fee during the holidays on https://zec.suprnova.cc in case you want so save some fees. SSL port is of course also available
No, now 430 hash for 1070...
See edits. Still isn't worth it...
Further Edit:
Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
Edit: Edit:
Card Price Hash/s Power (W) H/$
1070 $400 380 100 0.95
Fury $260 300 100 1.15
Full Bore Setup
Card Price Hash/s H/$
1070 $400 430 1.075
Fury $260 350 1.346
The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look. The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.
it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong. AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore. Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$. AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.
Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash
you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better
well considering to build nvidia rig,
hope vega or polaris refresh bring amd to the top again
haha old gpu will die soon
380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage...?? Not when that 27% increased hash costs 54% more $$. That statement shows a complete lack of understanding ROI. Cost matters.
So lets take a look at the extra components.
MB: $80
RAM: $40
CPU: $40
HDD: $40
OS: $40
PSU: $160
5 USB Risers: $50
16x Shielded Riser: $50
Case and Fans: $100
Total: $600
Fury Rig: $600 + $1,560 = $2,160
1070 Rig: $600 + $2,400 = $3,000
Card Price Hash/s Power (W) H/$
1070 $3,000 2,280 100 0.76
Fury $2,160 1,800 100 0.83
Full Bore Setup
Card Price Hash/s H/$
1070 $3,000 2,580 0.86
Fury $2,160 2,100 0.97
So as you can see, even with the cost of supporting parts included the Fury is still a better deal in H/$ running efficiently and running full bore.
For those asking about the Fury power usage, this has been covered over and over again on the forum. I did the math, you can do your own reading. There are over 100 Furys running rock solid 300H/s with 100W. And as others have pointed out, the Nano is pushing 325H/s with 90W-95W.
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
The ssl fee is 2% while the non ssl fee is 2.5%. So there is 0.05% difference. But not all pool will accept ssl.
What did I do wrong ? : no of mining
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
thanks I will test today.
Merry Christmas!
My rigs are on coinmine.pl and I'm pretty sure they are stealing shares or doind something wrong, all recommendations are targeting me to mine on dwarfpool but rig owners didn't made a decision yet
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
The ssl fee is 2% while the non ssl fee is 2.5%. So there is 0.05% difference. But not all pool will accept ssl.
What did I do wrong ? : no of mining
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
thanks I will test today.
Merry Christmas!
No, now 430 hash for 1070...
See edits. Still isn't worth it...
Further Edit:
Efficiency Setup - at equal power use for comparison without power costs impacting the analysis.
Edit: Edit:
Card Price Hash/s Power (W) H/$
1070 $400 380 100 0.95
Fury $260 300 100 1.15
Full Bore Setup
Card Price Hash/s H/$
1070 $400 430 1.075
Fury $260 350 1.346
The 1070 has a long way to go before it's worth a look. The entry cost of $400/card is just too steep to overcome without some serious hash.
it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
If you did a little math yourself you'd see at 380 it's still not wrong. AMD is still ahead of Nvidia in H/$ running efficiently AND running full bore. Even with the adjusted numbers the 1070 is still 20% less H/$. AMD dead?? It's still in the LEAD.
Edit: AMD guys are quibbling over 0.5% using ssl and 2%-4% in pool variance.
Nvidia guys are paying a 20% premium just to play the game and screaming victory. It would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic.
it is because 380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage, you need 25% more uselesses components with 300 sol to have the same total hash
you must remember than on large scale the less rig you haev that do the job the better
well considering to build nvidia rig,
hope vega or polaris refresh bring amd to the top again
haha old gpu will die soon
380 sol is always better than 300 sol at the same wattage...?? Not when that 27% increased hash costs 54% more $$. That statement shows a complete lack of understanding ROI. Cost matters.
So lets take a look at the extra components.
MB: $80
RAM: $40
CPU: $40
HDD: $40
OS: $40
PSU: $160
5 USB Risers: $50
16x Shielded Riser: $50
Case and Fans: $100
Total: $600
Fury Rig: $600 + $1,560 = $2,160
1070 Rig: $600 + $2,400 = $3,000
Card Price Hash/s Power (W) H/$
1070 $3,000 2,280 100 0.76
Fury $2,160 1,800 100 0.83
Full Bore Setup
Card Price Hash/s H/$
1070 $3,000 2,580 0.86
Fury $2,160 2,100 0.97
So as you can see, even with the cost of supporting parts included the Fury is still a better deal in H/$ running efficiently and running full bore.
For those asking about the Fury power usage, this has been covered over and over again on the forum. I did the math, you can do your own reading. There are over 100 Furys running rock solid 300H/s with 100W. And as others have pointed out, the Nano is pushing 325H/s with 90W-95W.
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
The ssl fee is 2% while the non ssl fee is 2.5%. So there is 0.05% difference. But not all pool will accept ssl.
What did I do wrong ? : no of mining
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
What did I do wrong ? : no of mining
ZecMiner64.exe -zpool SSL: //zec-eu1.nanopool.org:6633 -zwal t1RGQ4QhSqMMDNF8RaZRm5AHvrP7zyFZD6v.1 -zpsw r -i 8
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so my question is why do I want SSL?
HOW MUCH is fee with and with out ssl
At the moment I have no SSL on my 11 miners I certainly am willing to upgrade to SSL but what do I gain?
Does any one have any information about coinmiune.pl SSL connection? I'm unable to connect to port 7017, I posted in there thread but no one is willing to answer..
Hi ALL
What is the best intensity for Saphire RX480 ref?
What is the best intensity for Saphire RX480 ref?
Choose intensity -i 5 or 6, optimal temperature and difference with -i 8 in few h/s.
it's wrong, the 1070 do 380 at 100watt not 330
With what miner?
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