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legendary
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This will maybe not happen Smiley


Update: 1st batch shipped

I got a a status update from Avalon - the first batch of chips has been shipped, including DHL tracking number. It should get delivered this week.

Important reminder: If you have chips ordered from the first batch and did not yet enter your shipping address and locked it - do it soon! Orders without finalized shipping data will be postponed.




i have order in batch one how i can enter shipping address and i want to send it to burnin  or any manufacturers.
donator
Activity: 919
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Zefir and all chip buyers, please take note the way burnin is taking orders by your username and wallet (he abandon the message singing method...). These info are all out in the open so it poses risk for somebody to stole your chips (they paid for assembly with your chips buying info and have it ships to them...). I dunno how burnin will verify info with group buys organizer so you guys have to work it out to prevents against this...SebastianJu has the same concern afaik.


I know that's not really Zefir's responsibility, but could his chip addressing system be slightly modified so that we can also enter our personal shipping addresses there? (ie not just to what assembler we chose).  If Burnin was then given access to that info it should be easy for him to then cross check that address is the same as entered on his site.

No, I can't take over accounting and responsibility for shipping data for all manufacturers. We have an agreement already which includes me sending pre-verified data (i.e. people signed with their payment addresses).

There are several layers of security included here: first, while most users' orders can be identified (due to their posting in the thread), it is not known where the chips are sent to. If someone would try to post false orders (pretending to be an other user with chips in order) three things can happen:
  a) he orders at the wrong manufacturer,
  b) he orders at the correct manufacturer, but the rightful owner does also, and
  c) he orders at the correct manufacturer, while the rightful owner does not.

Case a) reveals him as scammer immediately, b) does the same after he can't prove his order (by signing), while the rightful owner can. The only critical path is c), but this would require that a user was going through the registration and claim process, delegate chips to a manufacturer but failed to place his order there. Given how unlikely this would be, plus the risks involved to scam this way (scammer has to pay manufacturing costs and provide some valid postal address), I personally won't expect too many attempts.
sr. member
Activity: 294
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Zefir and all chip buyers, please take note the way burnin is taking orders by your username and wallet (he abandon the message singing method...). These info are all out in the open so it poses risk for somebody to stole your chips (they paid for assembly with your chips buying info and have it ships to them...). I dunno how burnin will verify info with group buys organizer so you guys have to work it out to prevents against this...SebastianJu has the same concern afaik.

If this is your fear. Have the chips shipped to your home, and then forward them yourself to burnin.. Then you will not have any questions of chips being yours.
legendary
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Zefir and all chip buyers, please take note the way burnin is taking orders by your username and wallet (he abandon the message singing method...). These info are all out in the open so it poses risk for somebody to stole your chips (they paid for assembly with your chips buying info and have it ships to them...). I dunno how burnin will verify info with group buys organizer so you guys have to work it out to prevents against this...SebastianJu has the same concern afaik.


I know that's not really Zefir's responsibility, but could his chip addressing system be slightly modified so that we can also enter our personal shipping addresses there? (ie not just to what assembler we chose).  If Burnin was then given access to that info it should be easy for him to then cross check that address is the same as entered on his site.
hero member
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Zefir and all chip buyers, please take note the way burnin is taking orders by your username and wallet (he abandon the message singing method...). These info are all out in the open so it poses risk for somebody to stole your chips (they paid for assembly with your chips buying info and have it ships to them...). I dunno how burnin will verify info with group buys organizer so you guys have to work it out to prevents against this...SebastianJu has the same concern afaik.
hero member
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http://idontALT.com
if anyone wants to sell their batch 2-7 to me, plz pm me chip amount + batch #. Thanks!
Same me Smiley
if anyone wants to sell their batch 2-7 to me, plz pm me chip amount + batch #. Thanks!

Last minute offer; I have 200 chips in zepir's batch 5 (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1952463). looking for 3 times the initial price if anyone is willing to pay (51.6BTC).

PM me quick if interested. I'm about to order from Burnin so as soon as the website is back up, I'll order and the chips will be off the market.

Cheers,
QG
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Just another miner
How will shipping be handled when we finalized the shipping address and chips arrived?
I mean paying for shipping etc.?

Since I have no information on how the chips are declared and therefore do not know what additional costs (VAT, customs, handling, etc.) to expect, I'll ship first and ask for payment later.

For reference, prices for sending parcels through SwissPost are listed here (rate: 1CHF ~ 1.07USD). I'll try to lower those costs by sending from EU, otherwise the prices listed there for Urgent parcels (handled through TNT global) are the worst case shipping costs to expect.

I am very interested to see how this will turn out regarding additional costs.

Thats brave for sure... not a small risk...

and that ... hope all turns out well.
legendary
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How will shipping be handled when we finalized the shipping address and chips arrived?
I mean paying for shipping etc.?

Since I have no information on how the chips are declared and therefore do not know what additional costs (VAT, customs, handling, etc.) to expect, I'll ship first and ask for payment later.

For reference, prices for sending parcels through SwissPost are listed here (rate: 1CHF ~ 1.07USD). I'll try to lower those costs by sending from EU, otherwise the prices listed there for Urgent parcels (handled through TNT global) are the worst case shipping costs to expect.

I am very interested to see how this will turn out regarding additional costs.

Thats brave for sure... not a small risk...
full member
Activity: 126
Merit: 100
Just another miner
How will shipping be handled when we finalized the shipping address and chips arrived?
I mean paying for shipping etc.?

Since I have no information on how the chips are declared and therefore do not know what additional costs (VAT, customs, handling, etc.) to expect, I'll ship first and ask for payment later.

For reference, prices for sending parcels through SwissPost are listed here (rate: 1CHF ~ 1.07USD). I'll try to lower those costs by sending from EU, otherwise the prices listed there for Urgent parcels (handled through TNT global) are the worst case shipping costs to expect.

I am very interested to see how this will turn out regarding additional costs.
newbie
Activity: 25
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Same me Smiley
if anyone wants to sell their batch 2-7 to me, plz pm me chip amount + batch #. Thanks!
sr. member
Activity: 392
Merit: 250
if anyone wants to sell their batch 2-7 to me, plz pm me chip amount + batch #. Thanks!
sr. member
Activity: 349
Merit: 250
How will shipping be handled when we finalized the shipping address and chips arrived?
I mean paying for shipping etc.?

Since I have no information on how the chips are declared and therefore do not know what additional costs (VAT, customs, handling, etc.) to expect, I'll ship first and ask for payment later.

For reference, prices for sending parcels through SwissPost are listed here (rate: 1CHF ~ 1.07USD). I'll try to lower those costs by sending from EU, otherwise the prices listed there for Urgent parcels (handled through TNT global) are the worst case shipping costs to expect.

I hope shipments to board manufacturers on our behalf will be bundled for each batch that arrives.

That should cut the shipping cost for the bulk of the chips.  Smiley
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
How will shipping be handled when we finalized the shipping address and chips arrived?
I mean paying for shipping etc.?

Since I have no information on how the chips are declared and therefore do not know what additional costs (VAT, customs, handling, etc.) to expect, I'll ship first and ask for payment later.

For reference, prices for sending parcels through SwissPost are listed here (rate: 1CHF ~ 1.07USD). I'll try to lower those costs by sending from EU, otherwise the prices listed there for Urgent parcels (handled through TNT global) are the worst case shipping costs to expect.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
Bitcoin is too valuable to be used as a currency
So 7th batch should be here next month...
full member
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How will shipping be handled when we finalized the shipping address and chips arrived?
I mean paying for shipping etc.?
donator
Activity: 919
Merit: 1000
How do we know if our order has been finalized? If there is a signed receipt does that indicate we finalized? I don't recall now what I did back then, but I do have a signed receipt with addresses.

Yes, the signed receipt includes the sentence:

Code:
The address data for order #1 is final and can not be changed anymore.

When the shipping address is finalised and locked.

This. Plus once you finalized your shipping data, you can't change it any more => as long as it is mutable, it is not final.

good news.

what about batches #2 and #3? they were ordered only 4 days after batch #1.

No related info yet, will update as soon as I know more.

sr. member
Activity: 448
Merit: 250
How do we know if our order has been finalized? If there is a signed receipt does that indicate we finalized? I don't recall now what I did back then, but I do have a signed receipt with addresses.

Yes, the signed receipt includes the sentence:

Code:
The address data for order #1 is final and can not be changed anymore.

When the shipping address is finalised and locked.
sr. member
Activity: 294
Merit: 250
What happens in the - hopefully unlikely - event that Avalon can’t deliver the chips or they get delayed indefinitely?


This will maybe not happen Smiley


Update: 1st batch shipped

I got a a status update from Avalon - the first batch of chips has been shipped, including DHL tracking number. It should get delivered this week.

Important reminder: If you have chips ordered from the first batch and did not yet enter your shipping address and locked it - do it soon! Orders without finalized shipping data will be postponed.



Hello! I am interested in purchasing chips from batch 1 if someone is ready to hand over a few chips. Say 100 of them.
Pm me your price. I am in steamboats group buy, but nr 5..
Zefir, if i find one willing to sell chips, would you be willing to change his address to mine based on his acceptance?
If this is the wrong thread for this, where should i post it?
hero member
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firstbits:1MinerQ
How do we know if our order has been finalized? If there is a signed receipt does that indicate we finalized? I don't recall now what I did back then, but I do have a signed receipt with addresses.
legendary
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Merit: 1011
good news.

what about batches #2 and #3? they were ordered only 4 days after batch #1.
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