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Topic: [CLOSED-refunds process]Avalon - Chips group buy order time frame and deliveries - page 4. (Read 11049 times)

legendary
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Marto74 Batch 1 ordered 17-June:

Order sent in (and fees, refunds etc sent): http://blockchain.info/tx/2fc131341eb95774aaa07d4e30b78e5488fb2d2f430dee14871455854fcec5e7

Order #10945 made on June 17, 2013.

Batch 2 ordered 06-July:

2-nd batch order
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Order #11321 made on July 6, 2013. Order status: processing.
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Where are those 135 boxes of chips we saw?

STOP saying this. There were 24 boxes of chips, NOT 135.  The tracking number was for the entire shipment which included other items. The boxes were clearly labeled as 1/24, etc.   It was still 24 boxes of chips, but not nearly as many as people think it was.

Ummm ... it is 135.  Unless 135 means 24 in which case the world is less sane than I thought it is:

http://www.track-shipments.com/track-trace.aspx?pref=AWB&awbno=87150508076

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Most surprisingly, there is evidence that there were actually 135 boxes in the shipment that arrived for these photographs. This would indicate 593 TH/s at the standard 282 MH/s clock speed, or a monstrous 842 TH/s overclocked to 400 MH/s per chip. Given the high estimate, that would add almost 500% to the network speed.
(http://thegenesisblock.com/latest-shipment-of-avalon-asics-could-increase-network-hashrate-by-500/)
legendary
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legendary
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From ragingazn628's GB thread:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1960159

10k chips ordered 27-April.
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Where are those 135 boxes of chips we saw?

STOP saying this. There were 24 boxes of chips, NOT 135.  The tracking number was for the entire shipment which included other items. The boxes were clearly labeled as 1/24, etc.   It was still 24 boxes of chips, but not nearly as many as people think it was.
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Well there is at least 60,000 chips ahead of steamboats group buy #1. Hopefully group buy #1 is included in the 130,000 chips shipped, but highly doubt it.
legendary
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Call me impatient one, but here is what I think about it.



Pretty much this.  It's a clear disappointment with respect to someone who appeared to be a honest and a "no BS" kind of person.
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From bizwoo GB
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-avalon-chips-0082btc-k16-miner-assembly-60eur-200067


Batch 1
Order #10605 made on June 8, 2013. Order status: chips ordered. @20/06/2013
Batch 2
Order #11321 made on July 6, 2013. Order status: chips ordered. @08/07/2013
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Just another miner
Hi,

just wanted to see where we stand in terms of Avalon chips deliveries. There is probably many more, but these are most known (at least to me).
I'll be doing a review of chips group buy order date and deliveries concluding this day - 2013-09-01:

Zefir - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-avalon-asic-chip-distribution-177827
Code:
2013-04-30: Batch 7 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-09 ---> - 56 days
2013-04-30: Batch 6 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-09 ---> - 56 days
2013-04-28: Batch 5 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-07 ---> - 58 days
2013-04-24: Batch 4 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-03 ---> - 62 days
2013-04-20: Batch 3 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-06-29 ---> - 65 days
2013-04-18: Batch 2 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-06-27 - delivered - 2013-08-23 - 58 days late
2013-04-16: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-06-25 - delivered - 2013-07-24 - 29 days late
Big Time Coin - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/cancelled-big-time-coin-selling-90-ghs-bitcoin-mining-devices-batch-a-180093
Code:
2013-04-17: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-06-26 - delivered - 2013-08-27 - 63 days late
ragingazn628 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy2-avalon-asics-chips-1-chip-078btc-282mhash-189220
Code:
2013-04-27: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-06 ---> - 58 days
Steamboat - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/liquid-synergy-designs-inc-asic-mining-hardware-192916
Code:
2013-07-06: Batch 6 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-09-14 ---> + 14 days
2013-06-05: Batch 5 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-14 ---> - 18 days
2013-05-28: Batch 4 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-06 ---> - 27 days
2013-05-22: Batch 3 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-31 ---> - 33 days
2013-05-11: Batch 2 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-20 ---> - 44 days
2013-05-01: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-10 ---> - 54 days
SebastianJu' - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-avalon-asic-chips-sebastianju-batch-6-ordered-closed-187660
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2013-07-07: Batch 6 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-09-15 ---> + 15 days
2013-06-13: Batch 5 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-22 ---> - 10 days
2013-05-27: Batch 4 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-05 ---> - 28 days
2013-05-23: Batch 3 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-01 ---> - 32 days - refunded - 2013-09-01
2013-05-18: Batch 2 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-27 ---> - 36 days - refunded - 2013-09-01
2013-05-11: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-07-20 ---> - 43 days - refunded - 2013-09-01
t13hydra - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closedavalon-chips-0081-btc-globalescrow-batch2-secured-189582   Sample chips unboxing  - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x1FLE59Hzck
Code:
2013-06-30: Batch 2 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-15 ---> - 18 days
2013-05-23: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-01 ---> - 32 days
kslaughter
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.2370446
Code:
2013-06-01: Batch 2 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-10 ---> - 23 days
2013-05-28: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-06 ---> - 27 days
bizwoo - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/closed-avalon-chips-0082btc-k16-miner-assembly-60eur-200067
Code:
2013-07-08: Batch 2 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-09-16 ---> + 17 days
2013-06-08: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-17 ---> - 15 days
marto74 - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/group-buy-avalon-chips-escrow-john-k-please-check-refund-list-until-sunday-217316
Code:
2013-07-06: Batch 2 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-09-14 ---> + 14 days
2013-06-17: Batch 1 ordered - Expected date of arrival (10 weeks) - 2013-08-26 ---> -   6 days

Total 230K of chips
190K are already late
40K still in time frame

When we sum up these ones being late as they are, 230K of chips that Avalon didn't deliver, and Yifu's stating "130K chips gone out", it is clear it will not cover just for these three groups of buyers.

at the moment of writing, another 130k chips have gone out, and will proceed to ship more as we get them. ( and no, they are not samples.)

Where are those 135 boxes of chips we saw?
http://thegenesisblock.com/latest-shipment-of-avalon-asics-could-increase-network-hashrate-by-500/

Maybe you think Yifu offered to clear all unanswered questions? Take a look and see for yourself.
http://avalon-asics.com/

Call me impatient one, but here is what I think about it.


New update from Avalon
http://avalon-asics.com/
Combined spreadsheet with the avalon payment address (1FGAftzSTztFSB8LMwsrdCKTyqGY6zr3sU).

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiLYkKIHJaIsdHpIaGdUOWRYVUdncTNpNlVKbVhCbEE&usp=sharing

Info about the data in the spreadsheet:

Order: There are some payments that don't have the hole payment amount in one transaction, these have the same Order "ID". For example order 4 -> Payment 1: 700.6, Payment 2: 55, Payment 1: 26.5.

In total there are 54 orders, containing 97 * 10.000 Chips.


News letter from Avalon 2013-08-31
Anyhow, If people think I'm trying to screw the people who ordered from 15th to the 22th of June that is just silly, and false in their assumption. Here's the new deal,

The form will extend to orders made before the 22nd, which is exatly 10 weeks. and every order after, on the date it is suppose to ship, we'll send out a email asking if a refund is desired.

While I have no problems issue refunds, compensating for delay and such, I got no patience for people complaining when their orders are not late. Not too surprisingly, the people complaining the loudest are people whose order are not late yet(so more people refund and they can get their chips earlier maybe?), and people who have no orders(standard trolls of bitcointalk).

Most people who have chip orders are much more understanding to the situation, whom are either taking refunds, or working out some sort of compensation model.  

Showing himself in very positive light and doing what should be done, more then few batches were refunded immediately.
Thank you Yifu for doing the right thing and finally listening to your customers!

Refunds will be noted in a way - first in, first out - so shipping delay can be calculated fairly.
If you have more group buys with known status, link and day when ordered, just post them and I will add them to OP.
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