Topic: [CLOSED] S.DICE - SatoshiDICE 100% Dividend-Paying Asset on MPEx - page 62. (Read 316442 times)

The only thing I am upset is I missed out on the cheap shares. Anyone upset that the value dropped for 48 hrs should not be here in the first place.

Okay, thank you. The I have one additional question (of course you don't have to answer). Why didn't you just make a market order instead of selling them below market? (or am I missing something?)

I did make a mistake, which was to post the shares on the market without any warning. I apologize for this, and won't do it again. The lesson I learned is the market doesn't like surprises, even good ones. This was my mistake, and I'm happy to take responsibility for it.

Yet it was not a mistake to post shares at the price I posted them at. Some people were mad because they're own worth "on paper" dropped for about 48 hrs. I wonder if people who were upset about that should perhaps stick to mutual funds. S.DICE shares are going to be volatile, please don't be in the market if you're not ready for that. And please don't have a time horizon of 48 hrs., that's a recipe for investment disaster.

To all those who thanked me for the inexpensive shares, you're welcome. And thank you for being mature and rational about how values and prices work.

LOL, you are such a tool.
 
Scumbag mircea was screaming in IRC how he is going to send you here to post it. And you did, without ever realizing how you actually backed up what I was writing before, while confirming your zero understanding of what is going on.  
 
Honestly, you are a tool and not the sharpest one.

OOOPS! 

http://allthingsd.com/20130208/google-chairman-eric-schmidt-to-sell-up-to-42-percent-of-stake/

Quick, someone send Schmidt a copy of the 1933 LAWLZ.

+1  it is
 

+1

This made me chuckle, considering the author.

It's funny when people with no shred of a reputation are discussing the reputations of others.


Basically the whole story here is this: back in the days of the Global Scam Exchange, an assortment of scammers and idiots which I won't bother to name were very happy because a) they got to act as if they actually were investors, bankers and so forth and b) they made BTC. Bona fide investors were not at all happy, because they lost oodles of BTC. The conversion process used is particularly ineffective, for every Bitcoin scammed from investors people like Meni Rosenfeld, Kludge, or Patrick Harnett made maybe a cent or less. Some people did make a decent fraction, some still mine to this day on the farms their dupes bought them.

Then MPEx came to the scene, and the gravy train abruptly halted on all scores. Not only did the various scammers get to be called out and quite publicly at that, not only did dysfunctional "business models" get laughed out of town, not only are the idiots under the daily pressure of being called idiots, with ample and incontrovertible documentation of every move they make, but - worst pain of all - the investors are nowhere in sight. Because given a chance, an investor would rather be an investor than a dupe. Some "bond offering" that could collect 40k BTC no questions asked last spring and promptly evaporate half of the shareholder equity within six months can barely take in enough to cover outgoings this spring. Of course this burns the underclass of scammers & idiots: they don't get free BTC and attention anymore? Bawwwww.

They have correctly pinned the cause of their current plight on MPEx generally, on MP personally and as far as the messaging goes, on me. It's a fact: the reason they're fucked atm is exactly MPEx, MP and, at least on this forum, me. They are incorrectly trying to remedy this by attacking a combination of the three. Unfortunately for all of them it doesn't really matter how much time and effort they expend in the ultimately doomed attempt to convince "the public" that their executioner "is evil". In fact the only probable result of all that expenditure is their more thorough discreditation.

To quote MP himself,


That's the whole story. Idiots and scammers can no longer make it in BTC. The days when they had the run of the town are over, and are never coming back. Professionalism, competence, obedience and discipline are the values of Bitcoin in 2013. We're done dicking around with this toy based "on maffs" where "like, man, everything's possible right?"

Time to get to work.

No one messed up anything, and afaik most investors are happy as clams with SDICE. Maybe some are just pissed they don't have the capital and awareness to be agile in this market?

Either way, this turned into a boring troll slap fight.

LOL. So you are even more clueless than I thought. Thank you for the proof... again.

mpoe-pr aka fluffygrrl, go back to spamming porn sites.

It sounds like Erik fucked up. I think he should just take responsibility for the mistake, apologize, and move on. This will damage his reputation for further issues.

So you've managed to find a copy of a hundred year old bill and at least partially read through it. Congratulations.

Why you'd seem to think this incidental qualifies you to discuss the matter is beyond me, and why you'd think you're in a position to bark at the actual professionals actually doing these things professionally is also beyond me. But by all means, carry on, it's a free interwebs. (It'd be great if you constructively displayed these newfound wonders of thought and learning somewhere you're relevant rather than trying to threadcrap somewhere you're not, but I'm not going to ask for more than you can deliver.)

1) 90%  from 100 000 000 is 90 000 000 shares never floated (never sold by Co - read, owners never paid a penny for those shares. BTW, if they did, how much?) - lets call this the private stash.
2) 10 000 000 shares are floated and sold to the market at 3 different price (who ever advised you to do it like this, is close to clueless)
3) 3 000 000 new shares appeared on the market from a private stash
4) This is 30% increase of floated shares. Sure, you can call it 3% but in reality, shares available for actual trading increased by 30% and way below the market value.

You can not call this the secondary offering, because shares are sold by current majority owner and SDICE (as a company) receives absolutely nothing from it.
It was unannounced and sold directly to the market with now prior warning.
So, what else can we call this blunder?

When it come to who financial markets operate, you guys are so desperate to invent a wheel, it's almost comical. No, it's actually sad. What is th epoint of those stupid exercises and idiotic "contracts" (especially crap invented by this Romanian lunatic Popescu - btw, is that his real name or did he just want to sound almost "famous") Never mind, I do not care.

Has it ever occurred to any of you, that there are rules in the real world for stuff like that and those rules are there for a reason. Yes, BTC world can skip most of that crap, designed to protects the fat and wealthy scumbags. Who told you we can not pic out the rules useful for the entire community.

Lets use good old SEC as a reference. What about Rule 144 (Securities Act of 1933).
It gives us multiple ideas and hints how to actually structure a IPO, how to protect all the involved parties and so on.
I repeat: "ideas and hints".

BTW, 1933 act has tons of cool stuff to help BTC/LTC community come up with a rules for the game. Agree, most of those rule can never be taken over directly and this is good. Fuck all those brokers, bankers and greedy underwriters and BTC world equivalent wannabees. This is the stuff that must go away. We do not need those scumbags, wheeling and dealing and screwing everyone else in the process.

Take those, almost hundred years old rules as a "platform" or as a source of ideas. And for frak sake, get the semantics right.

What to do with scumbags like Popescu and his lapdog and sock puppets? They are clueless, when it comes to real life finances. Yes, clueless. And those Popescu contracts are just embarrassing. Sure, they attempt to look all official, use fancy wording and what not but the content is still a joke.
I am sure, those two clowns have never ever seen IPO (reading a news paper article is not enough) and are the last persons to give any of you any advice on the matter. 2 spammers are just 2 spammers.
Lawyers? Fuck lawyers and their dangled web of bull shit. BTC has an opportunity to start from a blank page and weed out all the that crap designed to protect only the wealthy and greedy scum.

I am going to stop right here. This conversation needs independent post in this forum and is getting way off topic.

So basically what's the plan here, ignore anything said, repeat that absurd, blunder, dumping etc and act the wounded princess? Go ahead.

2000 BTC / 10 mil

Next dividends should be [profit] / 12.[whatever was sold] mil.

So I have a quick question, somewhat confused about the "dividends":

According to https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.1515769

S.DICE made about 20000 BTC profit, but http://mpex.co/ shows that only 2000BTC paid out...

So what happened to the 18000 BTC? It seems that only 10% was paid out? But according to the contract 100% should be paid out.


Can anyone show me the math? I am guessing because only 10% of shares were released to the public, that's why 10%.. But that's have changed last week when 3% more were released. So now 13% will be paid out?

What was the amount per share paid? Is it 2000BTC / 100mil or 10 mil?

edit: I got the answer on IRC. Thanks, Mircea.

I have a feeling EskimoBob never read the contract and assumed that the IPO shares are the only ones getting traded.

My holdings are relevant in this case, because people like you spin up narratives that I'm "dumping my shares" and getting out. The fact that my share holdings increased, even though I sold 3% on market, is relevant because it disproves that narrative.

Please stop being a jerk, EskimoBob.

LOL, your holdings are irrelevant in this case. You increases the number of floated shares by what %?
Evoorhees, you are starting to sound like that beady eyed fuck from Florida, who fcuked most of his investors up the arse and then spun it so slippery nicely that fucked ones started to feel almost happy (Stockholm syndrome, indeed). Most of those idiots* had to add another 100+% as expenses to the "investment" to his perpetual mining turds, without even realizing that this move wiped out all the possible profits for good.

* - you have to be a retard to invest in perpetual mining whatever's