Just got off the phone with the Corvallis-based plant. They'll be coming up with some pricing charts and getting them to me later today or tomorrow. They're sending someone out to meet me face-to-face, too, tomorrow. They stressed how important it is to have large batch sizes, which is quite true. If you're in a group buy, and particularly if you know some of the other people in your batch are in the Pacific Northwest, then see if anyone else might be interested in a high-price/low-turnaround solution. The more people involved here, the cheaper it'll be for everyone.
I got some more quotes from the currently-cheapest plant for low numbers of PCBs. This time I figured in panelization and got some slightly lower prices for fabrication. Assembly prices are still really high, though.
Updated local per-board fabrication prices for the K16:
Qty | 1-day | 2-day | 3-day | 4-day | 5-day | E Test |
16 | $129.09 | $82.71 | $69.46 | $59.53 | $49.59 | $200.00 |
32 | $66.39 | $43.20 | $36.58 | $31.61 | $26.64 | $280.00 |
64 | $35.35 | $23.76 | $20.45 | $17.96 | $15.48 | $440.00 |
128 | $20.83 | $15.04 | $13.38 | $12.14 | $10.90 | $760.00 |
And updated per-board assembly prices for the K16, using leaded solder:
Qty | 1 day | 2 days | 5 days | 10 days |
16 | $471.44 | $332.98 | $297.33 | $274.18 |
32 | $450.34 | $315.01 | $280.92 | $259.33 |
64 | $439.80 | $306.02 | $272.72 | $251.91 |
128 | $434.52 | $301.53 | $268.61 | $248.20 |
And now introducing K64 fabrication prices!
Qty | 1-day | 2-day | 3-day | 4-day | 5-day | E Test |
4 | $516.35 | $330.85 | $277.85 | $238.10 | $198.35 | $140.00 |
8 | $265.57 | $172.82 | $146.32 | $126.44 | $106.57 | $160.00 |
16 | $141.41 | $95.04 | $81.79 | $71.85 | $61.91 | $200.00 |
32 | $83.34 | $60.15 | $53.52 | $48.55 | $43.59 | $280.00 |
And K64 per-board assembly prices... :-p
Qty | 1 day | 2 days | 5 days | 10 days |
16 | $1,759.19 | $1,224.09 | $1,090.86 | $1,007.64 |
32 | $1,738.09 | $1,206.12 | $1,074.46 | $992.79 |
64 | $1,727.55 | $1,197.13 | $1,066.25 | $985.37 |
128 | $1,722.27 | $1,192.64 | $1,062.15 | $981.66 |
I extended this out to 1024 boards, just for fun, and there's not much of a price break there beyond what 128 costs. With K64 batches of 32 and four days total turnaround, that would put the cost-per-board for fabrication and assembly at $1,286.27, before parts and my service fee. $358.21 for the same figures with the K16. So I guess the question now is, how much of a premium are you guys willing to pay for fast turnaround?
Anyway, I'm still hoping the folks in Corvallis can help me bring down the price. Right now I have pretty high hopes for them since they've been the most responsive and personable of the companies I've contacted so far.
I've also sent out requests for quotes to a few Washington companies, one California company, and one Arizona company. (The appeal of the last two being that they have plants in Mexico, which may provide a much lower price while still being close enough for me to do in-person pickup.)
Again, this is all tentative. Once I have quotes from everyone I've contacted so far and some finalized price charts and turnaround times put together, I'll see about getting escrow set up (hoping for JohnK or someone of similar standing) so people can start putting their bitcoin where their proverbial mouths are.
Escrow details- The price per board will start pretty high and then drop as people ante up. Any overpayment caused by drop in price or rise in the value of bitcoin after you buy in will be returned to you upon production of your miner. Beware, though: if the value of bitcoin falls before the escrow can be released and converted to USD to pay for fabrication and assembly, you might end up owing more.
- If you have a special request regarding the size of the batch you want to be put in and how long you're willing to wait for such a batch, or if you want to pool your group buy chips with the chips from someone else's group buy, let me know and I'll try to work with that. The default batch grouping will be by group order batch, since I should receive those all at the same time, and processing in that way minimizes turnaround time.
- The escrow will be released to me when it comes time to manufacture the miners. (I don't have the funds to personally cover the cost of getting all these miners made.) Whoever holds escrow will also hold my personal information, to be released if I make off with your bitcoin.
- Escrow will not be available until all domestic pricing charts and turnaround times have been finalized. If demand results in enough miners being ordered and paid for via escrow to exceed the numbers in the pricing charts, I'll get additional quotes to cover the new requested quantities plus some buffer room.
I'll also see about getting offshore production quotes together so we can talk about possibly switching to those pricing models and plants in the event that difficulty skyrockets enough to negate any earning advantage resulting from the quick turn-around offered by domestic production. Of course, if the whole thing falls apart at that point, then I understand: my value proposition is quick turn around by using domestic companies and face-to-face hand-offs whenever possible.
For those of you holding out for the K1: I will be gathering quotes and taking orders for the K1 miner as well once the BOM and Gerber files are released.