Topic: Cloudbet | Sportsbook and Casino | Bet with BTC and BCH | 100% Deposit Bonus - page 136. (Read 465733 times)

Why do you think so? You think that after my experience there will be another fool to deposit with Cloudbet?

the only thing you are doing is bringing more traffic to them

Bump.

As promissed I will bump this thread every day in order to keep it on the top of the threads. I don't want anyone to miss the scam Cloudbet is pulling on me and other players.

I want to apologues to all memebers of this forum for bumping the thread, and ask for little solidairity. Tommorow it could be you getting scammed by Cloudbet or other scam bookie, and there is no other way than to keep other players informed.

I am waiting for the answer 2 weeks already, don't expect it to come soon

The only offer I see is tennis couple of games, and just a few soccer games.

Hey, Cloudbet, what's going on with your site? Why I can't bet on so many events in recent weeks, especially when it comes to smaller and less popular leagues. Here is example:

Or another example:

Just 2 games you're offering to bet, despite that 4 matches will be played on Saturday in ACB league.

If you have round 2000EUR that they are not giving access to you to then that is unacceptable but if anything it sounds like a typical case of selective scamming.

Sorry to read about your issue. I think it is time take the complaint to a higher level because you are not getting any joy. Even with the corruption before you make a complaint to the licence issuer maybe you should do the ADR way first as Ronnie suggested.

I have absolutely nothing against Ronnie, but still he is trying to downplay and silenced people who have valid cases.

Complaint to E-gambling Montenegro will be as efective as complaint to the mailman. They are taking 10 000 euros per month from Cloudbet, and the possibilty to take players side in any kind of dispute is close to zero. I'm from Croatia and Montenegro is neighbouring country, and I very well know how things go there. Montenegro is one of the most corrupted countrys in Europe. In any other european country E-gambling Montenegro would have been closed long time ago.

This is all my faulth, I should have checked all this long before I deposited to this scam side. I will make sure no one else make that mistake.

@teteczv

I actually think Ronnie is a good guy here just trying to help out by linking the forum users to the Cloudbet site owners, probably without any pay just trying help out.

There is no need to get frustrated with Ronnie. Though it seems you have a valid case to be upset I would request you complain to the gambling licence issuer now because the owners of Cloudbet are ignoring you and Ronnie has no effective power to do anything about it.

It is good enough that information sent to Ronnie is at least getting traction with the Cloudbet site owners with some form of response in most cases. I know it is not not enough but still you should contact the licence issuer and complain now because they Cloudbet owners are messing you about.

First of all, you keep repeating flagged activity, betting integrity, suspicious activity, all empty woprds. So far you didn't offer here ONE SINGLE SHRED OF EVIDENCE. Not one. I call you to post my entire betting history, you gave me excuses. I dear you now to post ONE SINGLE SUSPICIOUS BET. Only one. Let see what are you accusing me off. I know that you are not involved in the investigations, but since you work for Cloudbet, how difficult is for you to obtain ONE SINGLE SUSPICIOUS BET from my betting history and present it here? Only one thiny bet? Is that impossible?

You will not do that again, because there are no such bets. Cloudbet is making up fancy stories in atempt to steal players money.

Second, you have just offered me to submit complain to E-gambling Montenegro. Let see for example what Ask Gamblers, very reputable casino review site has to say about E-gambling Montenegro:

https://www.askgamblers.com/online-casinos/cloud-bet-casino-review/

Copy paste from the page: NOTE: WARNING: Cloudbet Casino operates under E-Gambling Montenegro license, a licensing authority whose legal rights to organize games of chance via internet and other telecommunication channels have been a matter of court trial recently and not yet decided.

Do you understand meaning of this? CLOUDBET IS WORKING WITHOUT LEGAL LICENSE. Is that simple. And you are expecting me to ask justice from a shady company being currently on several trials on Montenegro courts, and the only reason they are still operating is that the company owner is Montenegro prime minister cousin?

This is where I shouls sick justice? You got to be kiding me. I tell you what. Here is ESSA.

http://www.eu-ssa.org/

They are impartial organization investigating suspicious and alegedly fixed games. Why don't you send them suspicious games from my betting history and see what will they told you. I bet they will have good laugh.

Well, I'm preparing one big post with my case and the investigations that I have done on Cloudbet and E-gambling Montenegro. When I'm done I will publish it on SBR forum, and basicaly on every betting and bitcoin forum I have heard off. And I will bump on those threads each and every day. I will also wright to the owners of SBR and the other forums and warn them that they are promoting scam. I will make sure that I'm the last person Cloudbet has scamed.

I garantee you that no matter how much you pay SBR to keep your rating, no one will ever deposit to Cloudbet again.

@Ronnie

You seem a nice person, you are always courteous and forthcoming. You are helpful and try your best but I think you should not be representing Cloudbet in any capacity. The "suspicious" flag/activity card is usually used by gaming/gambling sites when they selectively scam users.

There are obviously problems with Cloudbet and their operations, there is no need for you to taint your good name with these people.

Let Cloudbet use someone else to be their public face, you deserve better than this.

@teteczv Our ADR is EGM, you can find their contact page here.

You aren't being investigated for winning, but because our system flagged some activity as suspicious. As I've stated previously I don't know why you were flagged specifically as I'm not involved with the investigation process, but we would never refuse to pay out winners - any crypto casino and sportsbook deliberately refusing legitimate payouts wouldn't last long in a niche industry.

Thanks very much,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

Escalate the situation? I didn't create any situation, you did that when you locked my account without any reason and try to steal my money. What did you expect, that I will seat calm and watch you are stealing the money? Situation you say, there was no situation, I was betting singles in the 50-150 euros region size bets. If there is anyone normal and sane in Cloudbet, can he answer the simpliest question of all, If I knew of any fixed game, shouldn't I bet big on such a game? It is obvious that this "investigation" of yours has nothing to do with betting inetgrity, which is one of the most stupid expression and explanation I have ever heard of. You are simply buying time, delaying on purpose.

I don't want to escalate any situation, I want you to unlock my account so I can withdraw my money and forget about your ugly service. If you don't want winning players just put that on your site. You can put a sign, something like we only serve loosing customers.

I don't know what is ADR, and I cannot contact anyone at Cloudbet because, guess what, THEY DON'T RESPOND TO EMAILS. Not even to confirm that they get my documents. How is that for customer service?

So be kind enough and tell me what is ADR and how can I contact him, them, or whatever? I just want this nightmare to be over. And I learnt my lesson, I will never deposit to shity, unlicensed sportsbook ever again.

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@teteczv - If you wish to escalate the situation further you are welcome to contact our ADR, who would be able to investigate the issue independently using the information provided by both parties to come to an impartial decision.

I can't comment on the investigation myself as I have no information about player's betting history, and wouldn't know what to look for even if I did. If it's all a mistake then i'll be issuing a rather large apology and expecting an explanation from our teams on how you were falsely flagged, with assurances that this won't happen to others in future.

@4x4et We aren't allowing withdrawals whilst an investigation into betting irregularity is taking place, but the funds are still there. If we are wrong then we'll hold up our hands and apologise, the account will be unlocked, and the funds can be withdrawn. We have no intention of 'scamming' legitimate players out of their winnings but when these kind of issues are flagged they need to be investigated thoroughly.

@JollyGood I've just received good news from our teams regarding the cookie and T&C consent points you raised - We are adding 'tacit agreement' text to the sign up page, with a link to the full T&Cs for anyone wanting to read through before registration. The team are also adding a cookie consent checkbox that players will be presented with when visiting Cloudbet. I've been told to expect the updates to be rolled out in our planned releases for November and December, so you should see them soon.

Thanks again for taking the time to point out these issues, it's helped us make some positive changes to improve our service.

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

After I am done with Adab Haraam exchange scam and replace my original Scam Alert signature looks like I might have to add Cloudbet, sadly.

I said that this will happen (it was only a matter of time), people losing their financial security cause Fraudbet gets advertised and supported here and continue to pull scam after scam.


Shame on you BitCoinTalk.

I'm grateful to the community which thought me the basics of crypto world - but this place has now become scammer and bully paradise.

Sorry Ronnie, but I have enough of this. I appreciate your efforts but this isn't working. Of course that they won't let you post my betting history becouse that way they will have no argument for holding my money, and that id the point of all this, hold customers funds and work with that money. That is why everything was OK untill the moment I made the second withdrawal. They were afraid I will withdraw all of my funds, and they say, what the heck, we can trade with this man money for few months, let say that there is betting integrity investigations going on. Betting integrity my ass.

Cloudbet are cheaters, and they are working without license. I will go to SBR forum today, and post my entire case together with investigation I did on your bogus license. Lets see what will SBR community have to say about Cloudbet bussines model. Than I will open the same thread on every betting forum I have heard of, and I'm in the betting world for a long time. Let see how long can Cloudbet survive pulling things like they did on me.

I was cooperative long enough, I will no longer take this.

@4x4et I'm not sure which issue you are addressing, but I've responded to all reports on the thread so far and I'm unaware of anyone being IP blocked. We do have restrictions on certain territories such as the US, UK, and HK, if that's what you mean.

@teteczv I've been told that we are unable to post a player's betting history on a public thread, but I am sending messages every day to check for updates on your investigation. I'm trying to push things along and as soon as I have any information to provide I'll pass it along asap.

Thanks,

Ronnie @ Cloudbet

fuck off with that advertising of some shit website

No Ronnie, you cannot understand my frustration. You would understand my frustration only if someone try to steal your wallet with 2000+ euros in it, and in the same time the thief is yealing that you are the thief. Only in that case you will understand my frustration.

I am stil waiting for you to post my betting history. Lets all the gambling and bitcoin comunity here see what I have been accused of and have a good laugh. Lets all people here see what kind of bookie you are.

You are holding my money for one month now WITHOUT ANY REASON WHATSOEVER. I have already submit official complain to SBR. Obviosly I cannot submit official complaint to the company that issued you licenes since that company doesnt exist at all. You hold mine 2000 euros. I depend on that money. Can you please tell me who will pay me compensation for not having my money for one month?

If you dont pay me my money until Monday I will open one big bold thread at SBR forum explaining the situation. Let see why SBR is supporting thiefs and see what have members ther have to say about all this.

What are the exact problems you are facing?