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Quote from: Haunebu on August 27, 2021, 04:25:52 PM

Quote from: Slow death on August 11, 2021, 01:16:38 PM

I don't see how a second account can make the first account have many wins.

Way too many crypto gambling sites are taking advantage of the multiple accounts excuse in order to avoid paying winners. They ensure themselves through their TOS which is pretty smart.

We can they used the advantage of multiple accounts as an excuse because rule are rules and they are meant to follow, if not why making one in the first place.
Every gambler understands that no gambling support to users using multi accounts and the consequences.

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Quote from: decodx on August 27, 2021, 03:52:04 PM

The customer support is claiming they will not charge any additional withdrawal fees beyond those required by the Bitcoin network.
And in the end they do the opposite. In my opinion, it's cheating and stealing.

Agreed. Their withdrawal fees are way too high. They need to learn from sites like Blackjack.fun, Bitcasino etc who literally charge zero withdrawal fees(Only need to pay network fees).

I don't know how constant this was cause it a long time since I use cloud bet but dishonest is a business killer. Any idea of the fee they charge for USDT withdrawal?

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Quote from: Slow death on August 11, 2021, 01:16:38 PM

I don't see how a second account can make the first account have many wins.

Way too many crypto gambling sites are taking advantage of the multiple accounts excuse in order to avoid paying winners. They ensure themselves through their TOS which is pretty smart.

Quote from: decodx on August 27, 2021, 03:52:04 PM

The customer support is claiming they will not charge any additional withdrawal fees beyond those required by the Bitcoin network.
And in the end they do the opposite. In my opinion, it's cheating and stealing.

Agreed. Their withdrawal fees are way too high. They need to learn from sites like Blackjack.fun, Bitcasino etc who literally charge zero withdrawal fees(Only need to pay network fees).

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on August 26, 2021, 09:43:36 PM

@GamblingBro. It is not technically stealing, however, yes it should be understood that you were using the word as an expression that they are charging too much. But similar to movie theatres where they also make money in snack and drinks, I reckon small sportsbooks also try to have additional revenue from withdrawal fees.

The customer support is claiming they will not charge any additional withdrawal fees beyond those required by the Bitcoin network.
And in the end they do the opposite. In my opinion, it's cheating and stealing.

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I deposited Doge yesterday but I decided not to bet anymore and when I try to withdraw the withdraw address is disabled, whats wrong with the withdrawal function, Is it working or not?

You must play through the deposit amount 100% in order to meet the AML regulations (Anti-money laundering). Most of the casino requires this like Fortunejack as this is a standard across the gaming industry that must be met. The casino that I know that don't have this requirements is Sportsbet.io. I encounter this issue too on fortunejack and they send me the article below for reference about the law.

Reference: https://www.gamblingcommission.gov.uk/for-gambling-businesses/Compliance/General-compliance/AML/How-to-comply/How-to-meet-your-anti-money-laundering-responsibilities.aspx

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@GamblingBro. It is not technically stealing, however, yes it should be understood that you were using the word as an expression that they are charging too much. But similar to movie theatres where they also make money in snack and drinks, I reckon small sportsbooks also try to have additional revenue from withdrawal fees.

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Quote from: notblox1 on August 26, 2021, 02:25:53 PM

It is not really stealing because you accepted their terms when you signed and registered with your account, but it's not fair towards customers and they should improve that.

I guess keeping money that does not belong to you and pretending that you are using the money for the sake of players can easily be classified as stealing.

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Quote from: GamblingBro on August 26, 2021, 04:22:56 AM

Guys, please join the discussion in my thread. It looks like Cloudbet is stealing money on each withdrawal.

Cloudbet charges extra fees for withdrawal and you can see in topic made by Pmalek that they are among few betting websites that charges highest withdrawal fees, but BetHash and BitDouble charges even higher fees for withdrawing.
It is not really stealing because you accepted their terms when you signed and registered with your account, but it's not fair towards customers and they should improve that.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/table-withdrawal-fees-and-withdrawal-amounts-on-crypto-casinos-5333602

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Quote from: decodx on August 26, 2021, 12:08:10 PM

This is some disgraceful behavior, if I may say so. Worst of all, you claim to be The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site! Tongue

Cloudbet is one of the worst casinos for Bitcoin players. Besides the huge withdrawal fee, there are several other things designed against Bitcoin players. I will mention that in my detailed review that is going to be published soon.

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Quote from: GamblingBro on August 26, 2021, 04:22:56 AM

Guys, please join the discussion in my thread. It looks like Cloudbet is stealing money on each withdrawal.

Yeh, I just read your latest review. I like what you do.

@Cloudbet Is that true? Any comments?
This is some disgraceful behavior, if I may say so. Worst of all, you claim to be The No.1 Bitcoin Gambling Site! Tongue

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Guys, please join the discussion in my thread. It looks like Cloudbet is stealing money on each withdrawal.

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I deposited Doge yesterday but I decided not to bet anymore and when I try to withdraw the withdraw address is disabled, whats wrong with the withdrawal function, Is it working or not?

Actually, most of the casinos & sportsbooks will not allow you to just deposit and withdraw. I have been in such a situation and it feels terrible but you need to probably rollover once the deposited amount before withdrawing. I shouted at a casino's support initially because I was like, dude I am paying the transaction/withdrawal fees so just send it. But the support person informed me that due to money laundering and mixing issues they have to put such limitations in place.

I don't your exact problem but mostly that is it. Cloudbet has a live support option on-site so they might also help you out. I wish to see you get back your coins asap.

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Was wondering why the bet limits on the site are so low?

ATP, Hurkacz vs. Murray, max bet on Murray is ~0.0014 BTC, so ~60 USD
Snooker, pick any game, around 0.001 BTC, so ~44 USD

Are you allowed to rebet? Or bet multiple markets, like all the handicaps? Because otherwise these limits are pretty terrible, no?

By contrast Nitrogen might let you have 0.2 BTC on tennis (not that I use that lol) and probably 0.03 BTC on minor sports.

Interested to hear other people's experiences and Cloudbet's plans for customers who like to bet bigger

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In principle, even if there are 100 accounts from 1IP, that's all. They have to pay you once you have confirmed yourself with a document. If you had a European license, you could file a complaint to the European Commission.or to a licensed intermediary.and if you are not satisfied with the court.but in your case will be judged in your favor there were similar complaints and they were resolved in favor of the consumer

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You hear few stories of lawyers with success stories from players who want to file a claim. I also find it unclear which license Cloudbet has exactly, they have Curacao but also still from Montenegro?
Probably these kind of things are not discussed on the forum.

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Quote from: arowanaking on August 11, 2021, 10:40:25 AM

I played on cloudbet, I won around 11 ethereum, I requested a withdrawal then refused for account verification, then after 2 weeks of waiting and relaunching, the support finally unblocks my account only for withdrawal from the fund remaining. but I no longer see my 11 eth balance, there was only 1.87 eth so the deposit I made to cloudbet. they canceled my winnings under the pretext that I have several accounts opened with them with the same IP address, I recognize them because in 2019 I sponsored my brother and promote the cloudbet site. why he does not give me my gaisn in games whereas on my brother's account there were only losses then for not reimbursed also if it was illegal. i worked hard then played hard as live blackjack, my winnings are legitimate and justified. moreover on old account it has been more than 3 months since he no longer played on it. just because of the same IP address, cloudbet reserves the right to withdraw my profits, if they were losses will he reimburse them?

this is my deposit adress of cloudbet
https://etherscan.io/address/0x84014b12a10e3fe0bc968dcb3bec7a1efdd3a143

this is a very tricky situation in which the casino should take into consideration that the other account that your brother has has not been used for 3 months, plus I don't see that another account would make you earn much on that account you said had 11 ethereum for them to cut your winnings, as I'm not a casino expert maybe I'm wrong and they're right, but I don't see how a second account can make the first account have many wins. anyway you at least have your ETH, better use another site because it seems to me that this site it's not providing good service, i see a lot of complaints

Quote from: LEVSKI7 on August 09, 2021, 02:28:40 PM

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3614587-1bet-com-scam-account-closed-all-money-confiscated.html#post30463978=This is a quote from this forum .ask there
but having a lawyer in Curaço is a very good idea.Every site in Curacao will try to deceive you Grin

but let's imagine that the person lives in another country, how can you hire a lawyer in curacao without traveling to curacao? and if that person also travels to curacao, will pay for plane, hotel, attorney and litigation costs, all of this can be more expensive than the money that is retained in the casino

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I played on cloudbet, I won around 11 ethereum, I requested a withdrawal then refused for account verification, then after 2 weeks of waiting and relaunching, the support finally unblocks my account only for withdrawal from the fund remaining. but I no longer see my 11 eth balance, there was only 1.87 eth so the deposit I made to cloudbet. they canceled my winnings under the pretext that I have several accounts opened with them with the same IP address, I recognize them because in 2019 I sponsored my brother and promote the cloudbet site. why he does not give me my gaisn in games whereas on my brother's account there were only losses then for not reimbursed also if it was illegal. i worked hard then played hard as live blackjack, my winnings are legitimate and justified. moreover on old account it has been more than 3 months since he no longer played on it. just because of the same IP address, cloudbet reserves the right to withdraw my profits, if they were losses will he reimburse them?
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this is my deposit adress of cloudbet
https://etherscan.io/address/0x84014b12a10e3fe0bc968dcb3bec7a1efdd3a143

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https://www.yogonet.com/international/noticias/2021/07/30/58610-spain-courts-rule-against-betfair-and-bet365-for-suspending-accounts-of-customers-on-a-streak
It was for two lawsuits filed by players who had their accounts suspended and were prevented from playing in the areas in which they obtained the most benefits, when "all bets are made at the sole discretion and risk of the client." The operators will no longer be able to establish the general subscription conditions as mandatory.
he Courts of First Instance 4 and 11 of Oviedo in Asturias, Spain, ruled in favor of two users of the bookmakers Betfair and Bet365 respectively, who were harmed by the suspension of their accounts when they were going through a winning streak. As of the ruling, the companies will lose the right to limit accounts, bet amounts, or prevent continued gambling.
Both cases were brought forward by the partner of Egolegal Lawyers, Nicolás Simó Álvarez, in partnership with Legálitas. The lawyer alleged before El Confidencial, one of Spain's digital newspapers, that "the betting houses turn what are games of chance into a round business for them, in which either the house always wins or, the few times it loses, they throw the customer out and everything is solved."

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Quote from: grisho2019 on August 09, 2021, 08:13:40 AM

Quote from: LEVSKI7 on August 09, 2021, 08:07:19 AM

a quick update on that: this changed after I hired a lawyer in Curacao, specialized on E-Gaming (thanks to Lonnie for the contact) a couple of months ago, and in the end 1bet temporarily re-opened the account, so that I was able to withdraw my money now.there are lawyers in Curaço who deal with online bookmakers' scams there.I don't know what country you are from, but if you go to the police of your country, most of you will be sanctioned for playing on an unlicensed site. What country are you from?

And can you give me a contact to contact them? I live in Moscow now, but what is the point of asking where I'm from?

P.S. Account restored after blocking,but not yet verified.

I’m not sure you should contact anyone you meet from a forum due to security reasons, hence I would suggest wait for Cloudbet to sort it for you. However if you want to pursue it legally then, do proper due diligence otherwise you’ll end up burning more money in legal fees.

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