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He already started a scam accusation thread and as what the others have mentioned above there's no need for him to wait since Cloudbet already gave their final response.

At this point it's unlikely they'll change their decision unless AskGamblers escalates his case.

Looks like this is a very serious case, have you already created a scam accusation? Maybe let's wait for Cloudbet's representative to reply here or on your thread if you managed to create scam accusation.

Completely disagree- I'm a very honest person with a lot of integrity.  I lied about location, because I felt entitled to the money I sent to Cloudbet.  This was a wrong approach and a moment of dishonesty- however this is not my character.  

I have nothing against Cloudbet, RedApples (who repeatedly is trying to smear my character as he feels I have done towards Cloudbet).

I believe that the reasons Cloudbet gave for not returning the balance (deposits less than the withdrawals) is false.  I'm simply wanting clarification on the matter from the official source, not sure why that's not acceptable.

I will continue to defend my character to the wild accusations about cheating, scamming, psycho babble crap.  This is all stuff that in any court of law would be terroristic threats or slander- however this guy is completely anonymous and feels he can get away with saying anything to sway public opinion and make me look like a villain for asking for the money I sent to Cloudbet back.  Again, get over yourself.

For anyone curious about what is going on ($15,000 balance not being paid out):
Again:
I ran up a balance on Cloudbet, I withdrew everything multiple times, then I deposited into bitcoin, withdrew, deposited into bitcoin cash, there was a negative balance in the bitcoin balance, I went to withdraw the bitcoin cash balance and instead of taking the mis-grade balance out of the bitcoin cash withdrawal, Cloudbet decided to confiscate the entire balance (at the time it was $15,000 or 67 BCH).  But now it's a bit more.  

I'm simply asking Cloudbet to return the 67 BCH minus the -.26 misgrade.  I'd urge anyone to look at the case and how they used this mis-understanding to cite TOS and go against the past precedent of returning account balances to players (liquidity issues)?    

Cloudbet attempted to shut me down privately in emails saying the case was closed.  They continued to respond on bitcointalk after this.  Then they closed the case before all of the evidence was allowed to be collected and I was continuing to send them evidence in emails.  

I'm simply asking for an official response to why I'm not being paid the account balance for reasons of "deposits less than withdrawals" when in fact my deposits are much much more than withdrawals, I was a long time losing gambler, losing my money over and over.  I'm not a sharp.  I just am asking for the account balance back, it's not too much to ask and I hope Cloudbet can make an official response so I can decide whether or not to continue updating the community on the matter.  I actually do care about other people getting stuck in similar situations.

Then redapples has made his fresh account and has been steady trying to silence me for two months with terroristic threats and slander, so that anyone new coming to the thread dismisses me.  If you notice he's the only person attacking me.  Other people were hurt that I lied about my location but obviously not enough to dismiss my character. 

Cloudbet, please make an official response to the matter, and why past precedent isn't coming into play here with how you have settled past cases.  Thank you ever so kindly.

I think that is their final reply as we haven't read any reply from that anymore, and that reply was even over a month, so don't expect a reply from them. All the information are already in this thread and in the scam accusation there, it's up to you on how you see it and how it will affect your decision on still using the site or not anymore.

So what? I see there five casinos and one of them is Cloudbet. The others are Coinbet24, Crypto.Games, GoodWin and OneHash. I have checked your posts history and did not find the same posts in their threads. Do you think it is fairly?

There is no other information necessary. They already made their decision. All of what you're saying now adds nothing. You won't be able to come to a resolution because you tried to scam them, and were not only caught breaking TOS, but you waged an all out smear campaign against them. Wheres the precedent for them giving donations to people who unfairly try to ruin their reputation by making up multiple websites, multiple user names, and accuse them of everything in the book?

Look in the mirror dude. They don't want to deal with you. No one wants to listen to you. No one would ever in their right mind support someone who has done the things you've done here. You have no standing to get paid. You're a raging lunatic who talks about how fragile you are one moment, then the next moment you are on your high horse demanding you get paid, then back to saying how the attacks are unfair against you and you cannot take it. No one is stupid enough to fall victim to your playing the victim act. Your words mean nothing. No one believes that Cloudbet should be contacting you, and fully believe that you should just go away and stop abusing them. You're dishonest and a scam artist, and no one supports that.

Get this through your head. It doesn't matter how many weeks or months go by. There is not going to be ANY resolution, because they DON'T OWE YOU ANYTHING. If anything, the damage you've attempted to do to them should have you on the BLACKLIST for each and every book. You give honest bettors a really bad name.

I'm AMAZED that you aren't banned from here for using this name and your Cloudbetscamsdotcom name to go back and forth attempting to extort Cloudbet, demanding that they pay you immediately, faking that the community was in an uproar. You were successful in tricking a few people into backing your flag, and they've all since withdrawn from it and for good reason. Go away.

https://ibb.co/R6z5Mb8

This psycho scammer is still at this game? For anyone who wants the truth, click this link and read the posts that follow. Read this entire thread from start to finish if you want an even clearer picture. Maybe the most dishonest psychotic unfair abusive scammer you will ever see ANYWHERE. Do not trust ANYTHING this guy says without verifying the details. NONE of it is ever true. Just read for 1 minute. He's the shadiest person you will ever find. Been waging a smear and misinformation campaign from day 1.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3622234-cloudbet-confiscated-15-000-due-providing-verification-documents-usa-citizen-p9.html#post29818073

Yes, you tried to scam them. Your account went negative and then you just so happened to change to a different currency. You also made up multiple names to extort them. They are done with you. You should be blacklisted everywhere. The case is CLOSED. You keep portraying things as something they aren't. Your words:

"I'm a losing desperate gambler trying to say anything to get my money back after breaking ToS"

You are dishonest and an abusive scam artist. All of the proof is in the threads in these threads. If anyone will click the link they will see the full story, including how you pretend to be scared for your life, acting psychotic, all to get the story off of the current page where you were fully exposed for the abusive cheat you are.

"Moving forward, all updates regarding this case will be made on this thread."

The case was closed prematurely without looking at the facts.  I overreacted and apologize, but can we please get a resolution with the provable facts presented and looking at the past precedented about how publicly these cases have been resolved in the past with the player being returned the account balance for wagers made on the site in fair use?  It's easy to close a case before you get the whole story and ghost.  I'd like to get the official response from Cloudbet regarding the case.  My deposits were far greater than the withdrawals.

I made the bets, I feel I should be paid.  I have lost tens of thousands to the site even if I were paid the balance I'd still have given money to Cloudbet over the years.  The case needs to be looked at again, I'd appreciate that certainly.  I apologize for overreacting in the weeks following the closing of the case, but it was closed prematurely and needs to be looked at again.  It's a lot of money we are talking.

They consider that your case is closed and here is their reply


So you are not going to get further response or anything, please calm down and find a way to solve your financial situation if there is any.

I'm still awaiting official word from Cloudbet regarding the new facts presented in the case.  It's been about two months now.  Can we hopefully come to a resolution?  No replies from emails, anything.

@Ronnie. How about listing some cryptospace news events betting specials? I reckon there might be some funny bets like do you think Arthur Hayes will come out from hiding before December 25, 2021? and will Gerald Cotten be discovered alive before January 1, 2025? hehehe.

I jsut want to hear what cloudbet has to say, it's been two months. I'm done conversing with people until then. I will just await to see if cloudbet says anyhting. if not whatever, i'll move on. but I wish it would get resolved.

Look I don't want any more problems, I apologize for stating false facts in the beginning. I was scared I wouldn't get paid. My reality came true. I apologize about all of it... I think jackson knows my character, and is pushing me to walk away for own mental health and to live a fruitful life, it's definitely a tough situation.

To the people talking crap and talking down to me, I'm sure you've done a lot worse than lie about your location when gambling on the internet. Good luck.

efxes/DoubleRedDragon is literally the most dishonest person ever. He has fabricated everything and simply doing everything he can to get paid.

His words:
"I'm a losing desperate gambler trying to say anything to get my money back after breaking ToS"

Read the thread for context. Look at this post and after to see how psychotic he is, and how desperate he is to try to control a narrative to get paid. He's sick and twisted. He has treated Cloudbet so unfairly. This guy should be BLACKLISTED from every book. No one should need to put up with someone like this. He attempts to steal from them, and then resorts to extreme extortion tactics. Read the entire thread for all details. It's scary.

https://www.sportsbookreview.com/forum/sportsbooks-industry/3622234-cloudbet-confiscated-15-000-due-providing-verification-documents-usa-citizen-p9.html#post29818073

He has continued to say that he has support from the community. Yet everyone who backed his claim on here, has since withdrawn and distanced themselves from him- as it was proven that he was a dishonest scammer who could not be trusted. His first attempt at extortion was to pretend as if the community was 'outraged'. All of the other 'people' turned out to be his own burner accounts and fake profiles he set up. All of the info is in this thread here and the one above.

You are one person.  Majority of people think I should be due the funds.  I lost tens of thousands to the site and they haven't responded since this was revealed.

Cloudbet in the past has said, I quote:

We always pay players when they cooperate and provide the correct documents.


I provided the correct documents.  The reasoning of it being due to me being a USA player, they always return the "account balance".  Do you need me to dig up the post for you or have you not educated yourself on the case?  

Of course I'm not going to go away until this is resolved.  Why would you think otherwise?  

You clearly don't understand what "walking away" means. It means not just walking away but also not coming back!


Then just stop posting. You make yourself look bad -- you did that on your own with nobody to help you.


The resolution is you were caught playing outside of the terms and conditions, your account was closed and your winnings have been confiscated. That's the resolution.

The screenshot you posted is spot on advice for what you should do. Nobody owes you anything. You, however, owe it to yourself to move on and live the rest of your life without letting this event drag you down.

Some guy JacksonStreet and many other shill accounts of cloudbet's are trying to talk me out of gambling and convince me to walk away.  I have walked away- for weeks.  I'm still awaiting any update from Cloudbet on the case.  

Please stop having RedApples and JacksonStreet on SBRforum try and make me look bad over and over on here.  It's so tiring.  

Here it shows that he's actually stalking my profiles and talking about my businesses:


Can we get a resolution?  I don't want beef, I just want some type of resolution to the matter, you know?

People stalking my profiles, talking about my business, doing all sorts of stuff to try and make me go away.  Is this how a proper business is run guys?  Seriously?  Can you for once be a decent site and pay your customers, pay your players? 

I don't even think about this case at all any more.  I just post updates once a week and there are people apparently stalking me.  Make it stop guys.  Let's get a resolution.  I've walked away for weeks.  I'm just gently asking to please stop the personal attacks, and just confront the real situation here.  Let's get an official response from cloudbet.  It's been almost two months.

that is exactly right.  and here are the 200 deposits and ~30 withdrawals showing I actually was down 2.7 bitcoins on the site before taking a one or two year break and forgetting my logins and making a new account.  I realize it's complicated but I've lost tens of thousands on the site, and their reasonings of me being in the profit on the site are blatantly false given these facts:

200 provable deposits
https://imgur.com/a/cKScZIG

30 withdrawals
https://imgur.com/a/tUUxi0e

I realize I broke TOS- however it was completely non-malicious.  I'm a losing bettor, it's proven with facts here. 

The figures are that I was down 2.7 bitcoins on the previous account.  So holding the 67 BCH minus the .27 bitcoin misgrade doesn't seem to apply.

I still don't understand why Cloudbet doesn't want to solve this neatly and in a human way. They could still calculate how much has been deposited in total, and how much this user has cashed out.

If he has cashed out more than he deposited, then the case is closed, I think. If the amount of deposits is higher than the amount in payouts, they can still refund this amount.

They don't even lose money with that. But then it must be possible to prove it. I thought Askgamblers was doing all gambling related business, but apparently only casinos.

askgambler's refuses to take my case because it has to do with "sports betting".

How did he get accepted?  Is he a casino gambler instead?


I still have received no word about the facts presented in the case.  How is his resolved and not mine?  I have lost tens of thousands on the site and have shown that it can be proven- in these cases in the past precedent shows that Cloudbet returns the money.  Their reasoning for keeping the money sent to them was that my deposits were less than the withdrawals, however this is completely false in my case and I've proven it!  What is going on seriously?

Cloudbet pushed me to make a complaint on AskGambler's just to get my money back- and AskGambler's doesn't even accept complaints having to do with sports betting.  

What is your guy's take on all this?  Please respond Cloudbet it has been almost 2 months since your response.  The case was closed very prematurely.  Please allow us to resolve the case.  I'd appreciate it, I'm sure other people would appreciate seeing the resolution as well.  

it seems that they do have the necessary influence on that site there. just a pity it took so long before you got access again. anyway, it was resolved in the end.