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Xialla

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 05:11:56 AM

Still listed as "HERO & LEGENDARY: 0.0025 BTC/post" for me. That's hiiiiiiiiigh as hell.

even this is unbeatable price per post, obviously hero/legendary members are smart enough and not joining at all. actually, amazing proof about health of this community..

positively surprised here..

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 04:57:55 AM

Quote from: Hazelnut on May 31, 2015, 04:37:24 AM

It's an easy decision. You want to protect the few who joined the campaign inspite of being aware there is no escrow and that they are advertsing scam. You're ignoring all those outside the few threads who can't see the warnings exposed to the ads and thinking this is legit.

There is no reason for any trusted escrow to help them. In the current situation they're getting no one and campaign is dead. If any trusted escrow helps them they are responisble for anyone getting scammed by them due to their ad.

No, it's not. This campaign pays something like 75% better than the best available non-risky signature campaign. It will fill up and the same advertising potential will be achieved regardless of whether or not someone escrows. I want someone to escrow so that less people are at risk of being scammed. I'm aware that's not the case right now but I'm fairly sure it will. Once it does someone needs to step up - perhaps not yet though.

You want to protect all those who are joining the campaign even though there are warning signs? They're joining knowing it is a scam and that their ad may cause someone to lose. They don't care and want their pay. If they get scammed let them be.

You don't care for all those who can be scammed by the ad? Instead of making escrow you should be trying to find ways to prevent it.

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 05:11:56 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 05:08:21 AM

I disagree with you here. They decreased pay rates and people who join the campaign will be much less when it is not escrowed. I might be wrong. ATM only a few joined the campaign.

Still listed as "HERO & LEGENDARY: 0.0025 BTC/post" for me. That's hiiiiiiiiigh as hell.

My mistake. He was only planning to do it. Anyway, only rate for Hero Member and Legendary is very high. So the registrations probably will be low because HM.

Quote from: mirjangka on May 30, 2015, 02:08:47 PM

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To resolve this issue once and for all, we plan to lower the payouts with 20-30% and lower the available slots (for this week only, until June 8) so the budget estimation doesn't pass the total funds in escrow. And if this happens, we will immediately add funds to the escrow to cover it.
Please tell us if this is ok and post any recommendation you may have to resolve this issue. We can also change the payout time to Daily for the first week.

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 05:11:56 AM

As I said though:

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 04:57:55 AM

I'm aware that's not the case right now but I'm fairly sure it will. Once it does someone needs to step up - perhaps not yet though.

Perhaps there's no need for someone to escrow yet, but if people start joining up (and I think they will due to pay rates), there will be a need.

I agree with you in this. Let's wait and see.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 05:08:21 AM

I disagree with you here. They decreased pay rates and people who join the campaign will be much less when it is not escrowed. I might be wrong. ATM only a few joined the campaign.

Still listed as "HERO & LEGENDARY: 0.0025 BTC/post" for me. That's hiiiiiiiiigh as hell. As I said though:

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 04:57:55 AM

I'm aware that's not the case right now but I'm fairly sure it will. Once it does someone needs to step up - perhaps not yet though.

Perhaps there's no need for someone to escrow yet, but if people start joining up (and I think they will due to pay rates), there will be a need.

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 04:57:55 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 04:33:33 AM

FYI, TC declined to escrow it. I received a PM from TC few minutes ago.

Right. I'd rather someone else other than me escrow it, I >might< consider stepping in as a last resort but that's it.

Quote from: Hazelnut on May 31, 2015, 04:37:24 AM

It's an easy decision. You want to protect the few who joined the campaign inspite of being aware there is no escrow and that they are advertsing scam. You're ignoring all those outside the few threads who can't see the warnings exposed to the ads and thinking this is legit.

There is no reason for any trusted escrow to help them. In the current situation they're getting no one and campaign is dead. If any trusted escrow helps them they are responisble for anyone getting scammed by them due to their ad.

No, it's not. This campaign pays something like 75% better than the best available non-risky signature campaign. It will fill up and the same advertising potential will be achieved regardless of whether or not someone escrows. I want someone to escrow so that less people are at risk of being scammed. I'm aware that's not the case right now but I'm fairly sure it will. Once it does someone needs to step up - perhaps not yet though.

I disagree with you here. They decreased pay rates and people who join the campaign will be much less when it is not escrowed. I might be wrong. ATM only a few joined the campaign.

DiamondCardz

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 04:33:33 AM

FYI, TC declined to escrow it. I received a PM from TC few minutes ago.

Right. I'd rather someone else other than me escrow it, I >might< consider stepping in as a last resort but that's it.

Quote from: Hazelnut on May 31, 2015, 04:37:24 AM

It's an easy decision. You want to protect the few who joined the campaign inspite of being aware there is no escrow and that they are advertsing scam. You're ignoring all those outside the few threads who can't see the warnings exposed to the ads and thinking this is legit.

There is no reason for any trusted escrow to help them. In the current situation they're getting no one and campaign is dead. If any trusted escrow helps them they are responisble for anyone getting scammed by them due to their ad.

No, it's not. This campaign pays something like 75% better than the best available non-risky signature campaign. It will fill up and the same advertising potential will be achieved regardless of whether or not someone escrows. I want someone to escrow so that less people are at risk of being scammed. I'm aware that's not the case right now but I'm fairly sure it will. Once it does someone needs to step up - perhaps not yet though.

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 02:48:45 AM

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 02:20:09 AM

No, let TC escrow it. No offense to you TheGr33k but if anyone is going to escrow this IMHO it should be Tomatocage or someone with equivalent trust as this seems like a large escrow. If TC's offer falls through I will offer to escrow as an impartial escrower.

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 02:46:20 AM

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

It's a hard choice, isn't it? If we don't escrow, people might get scammed here...but escrowing will lead more people to the (potential) scam.

Sigh. It's a hard decision.

It's an easy decision. You want to protect the few who joined the campaign inspite of being aware there is no escrow and that they are advertsing scam. You're ignoring all those outside the few threads who can't see the warnings exposed to the ads and thinking this is legit.

There is no reason for any trusted escrow to help them. In the current situation they're getting no one and campaign is dead. If any trusted escrow helps them they are responisble for anyone getting scammed by them due to their ad.

Muhammed Zakir

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 03:25:23 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 03:22:30 AM

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 03:03:40 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 02:46:20 AM

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 02:17:02 AM

-snip-
...who is TheGr33k?

Welp, just checked and it's some Full Member who has a positive trust score because of someone escrowing a deal for him and Vod giving him a 0.001 BTC loan...oh dear.

Jesus Christ I would escrow the damn thing just so no-one gets scammed, no offense to TheGr33k but when did Full Members start escrowing signature campaigns like this Undecided

Hopefully TC escrows it.

I don't endorse this at all but I don't want to see people scammed in all fairness.

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

Got it the first time you said it no need for a 3rd time Tongue

(PM + 2 posts)

I'm quite aware and to be honest I don't want to (and now that I've badmouthed it I doubt they'd be happy to anyway). Problem is usually it's better to have an escrow than no escrow...because people are gullible and the signature campaign pays EXTREMELY well (I have a 600 post/month deal about to start that doesn't pay that well lol) and obviously people are greedy, the signature campaign is likely to fill up anyway so it doesn't matter if someone escrows.

I would like to see TC escrow it just because I don't think it'll make a difference to the amount of people who sign up, but yeah I don't think TheGr33k should escrow due to his very short trust history.

You are right in that. I can escrow this if you that is the right thing to do. OP is willing to send me funds if I confirm.

Better than nothing, sure. Doesn't really matter who escrows it s'long as it's someone trusted. TC would be my first choice but if he can't do it, there's you, me, etc. *shrug*

FYI, TC declined to escrow it. I received a PM from TC few minutes ago.

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 04:04:29 AM

The pic was in their site but after it was exposed, they removed it and told that the photo which was posted as Richard Coleman (his Chief Executive Officer who was also helping him to write that post) was a photo taken from another website. That was a mistake and Richard will fully assume this mistake. Richard asked the designer to post a temporary photo so his identity or family doesn't receive any weird messages or threats. I can't believe they come up with such a thing. They are most probably inexperienced scammers. Grin

Google has a feature to search for picture , you just need to drag and drop the picture. Perhaps they are not aware of this. It takes only a single click to know the origin of the picture. I will want to see what temporary photo that they will post later, perhaps they might be smarter this time

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Quote from: Xialla on May 31, 2015, 03:52:40 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 02:46:20 AM

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

I really appreciate, that you don't wanna escrow something like this..sooner or later, it will be escrowed by somebody. anyway, not by somebody with enough trustworthy within community.

True. I have sent PM to two known escrows to know their opinion. After considering those two opinions, I will rethink about escrowing this.

Quote from: Xialla on May 31, 2015, 03:52:40 AM

Quote from: NLNico on May 30, 2015, 11:00:57 PM

Quite literally the only reason why I am doing this is because I have seen too many (cloudmining) scams before and "CloudThink" gives me a lot of reason to think your site is very likely a scam in the making. And I do think it benefits the community to prevent scams. In my previous post I said I was hoping you would reply, because I very much like to be convinced that you are not a scam (so I would remove my negative trust.) So far your reply did not convince me.

great post.) I also like how you find you source of "company CEO" pictures, template, fiverr video etc. and how you are raising red flags..

The pic was in their site but after it was exposed, they removed it and told that the photo which was posted as Richard Coleman (his Chief Executive Officer who was also helping him to write that post) was a photo taken from another website. That was a mistake and Richard will fully assume this mistake. Richard asked the designer to post a temporary photo so his identity or family doesn't receive any weird messages or threats. I can't believe they come up with such a thing. They are most probably inexperienced scammers. Grin

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 02:46:20 AM

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

I really appreciate, that you don't wanna escrow something like this..sooner or later, it will be escrowed by somebody. anyway, not by somebody with enough trustworthy within community.

Quote from: NLNico on May 30, 2015, 11:00:57 PM

Quite literally the only reason why I am doing this is because I have seen too many (cloudmining) scams before and "CloudThink" gives me a lot of reason to think your site is very likely a scam in the making. And I do think it benefits the community to prevent scams. In my previous post I said I was hoping you would reply, because I very much like to be convinced that you are not a scam (so I would remove my negative trust.) So far your reply did not convince me.

great post.) I also like how you find you source of "company CEO" pictures, template, fiverr video etc. and how you are raising red flags..

DiamondCardz

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 03:22:30 AM

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 03:03:40 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 02:46:20 AM

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 02:17:02 AM

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...who is TheGr33k?

Welp, just checked and it's some Full Member who has a positive trust score because of someone escrowing a deal for him and Vod giving him a 0.001 BTC loan...oh dear.

Jesus Christ I would escrow the damn thing just so no-one gets scammed, no offense to TheGr33k but when did Full Members start escrowing signature campaigns like this Undecided

Hopefully TC escrows it.

I don't endorse this at all but I don't want to see people scammed in all fairness.

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

Got it the first time you said it no need for a 3rd time Tongue

(PM + 2 posts)

I'm quite aware and to be honest I don't want to (and now that I've badmouthed it I doubt they'd be happy to anyway). Problem is usually it's better to have an escrow than no escrow...because people are gullible and the signature campaign pays EXTREMELY well (I have a 600 post/month deal about to start that doesn't pay that well lol) and obviously people are greedy, the signature campaign is likely to fill up anyway so it doesn't matter if someone escrows.

I would like to see TC escrow it just because I don't think it'll make a difference to the amount of people who sign up, but yeah I don't think TheGr33k should escrow due to his very short trust history.

You are right in that. I can escrow this if you that is the right thing to do. OP is willing to send me funds if I confirm.

Better than nothing, sure. Doesn't really matter who escrows it s'long as it's someone trusted. TC would be my first choice but if he can't do it, there's you, me, etc. *shrug*

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 03:03:40 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 02:46:20 AM

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 02:17:02 AM

-snip-
...who is TheGr33k?

Welp, just checked and it's some Full Member who has a positive trust score because of someone escrowing a deal for him and Vod giving him a 0.001 BTC loan...oh dear.

Jesus Christ I would escrow the damn thing just so no-one gets scammed, no offense to TheGr33k but when did Full Members start escrowing signature campaigns like this Undecided

Hopefully TC escrows it.

I don't endorse this at all but I don't want to see people scammed in all fairness.

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

Got it the first time you said it no need for a 3rd time Tongue

(PM + 2 posts)

I'm quite aware and to be honest I don't want to (and now that I've badmouthed it I doubt they'd be happy to anyway). Problem is usually it's better to have an escrow than no escrow...because people are gullible and the signature campaign pays EXTREMELY well (I have a 600 post/month deal about to start that doesn't pay that well lol) and obviously people are greedy, the signature campaign is likely to fill up anyway so it doesn't matter if someone escrows.

I would like to see TC escrow it just because I don't think it'll make a difference to the amount of people who sign up, but yeah I don't think TheGr33k should escrow due to his very short trust history.

You are right in that. I can escrow this if you that is the right thing to do. OP is willing to send me funds if I confirm.

DiamondCardz

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 02:46:20 AM

Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 02:17:02 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 12:38:53 AM

Now they are telling they ain't mining?

Quote from: achow101 on May 30, 2015, 10:44:33 PM

It looks like TheGr33k will be escrowing their sig campaign. He has yet to post a signed contract though.

I have sent him a PM. Hope he won't escrow it.

...who is TheGr33k?

Welp, just checked and it's some Full Member who has a positive trust score because of someone escrowing a deal for him and Vod giving him a 0.001 BTC loan...oh dear.

Jesus Christ I would escrow the damn thing just so no-one gets scammed, no offense to TheGr33k but when did Full Members start escrowing signature campaigns like this Undecided

Hopefully TC escrows it.

I don't endorse this at all but I don't want to see people scammed in all fairness.

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

Got it the first time you said it no need for a 3rd time Tongue

(PM + 2 posts)

I'm quite aware and to be honest I don't want to (and now that I've badmouthed it I doubt they'd be happy to anyway). Problem is usually it's better to have an escrow than no escrow...because people are gullible and the signature campaign pays EXTREMELY well (I have a 600 post/month deal about to start that doesn't pay that well lol) and obviously people are greedy, the signature campaign is likely to fill up anyway so it doesn't matter if someone escrows.

I would like to see TC escrow it just because I don't think it'll make a difference to the amount of people who sign up, but yeah I don't think TheGr33k should escrow due to his very short trust history.

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Mm yeh. I respect Muhammed Zakir a lot for not being an escrow of a campaign that very likely promotes a scam. I have no intention at all of being an escrow ever, but if I would, I would personally not be escrow of these campaign either.

But I can agree that TheGr33k doesn't seem to have the trust history to escrow 3-5 BTC at all. Having the signature budget scammed (while those signatures are still shown) will obviously not help anyone. Nothing personal towards TheGr33k although I did happen to find some interesting things that I will PM to quickseller first (since he has more experience with this specific information.)

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Quote from: DiamondCardz on May 31, 2015, 02:17:02 AM

Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 12:38:53 AM

Now they are telling they ain't mining?

Quote from: achow101 on May 30, 2015, 10:44:33 PM

It looks like TheGr33k will be escrowing their sig campaign. He has yet to post a signed contract though.

I have sent him a PM. Hope he won't escrow it.

...who is TheGr33k?

Welp, just checked and it's some Full Member who has a positive trust score because of someone escrowing a deal for him and Vod giving him a 0.001 BTC loan...oh dear.

Jesus Christ I would escrow the damn thing just so no-one gets scammed, no offense to TheGr33k but when did Full Members start escrowing signature campaigns like this Undecided

Hopefully TC escrows it.

I don't endorse this at all but I don't want to see people scammed in all fairness.

No, please. I don't want anybody to escrow this campaign especially highly trusted members like TC. It will only increase effectiveness of the scam.

DiamondCardz

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Quote from: Muhammed Zakir on May 31, 2015, 12:38:53 AM

Now they are telling they ain't mining?

Quote from: achow101 on May 30, 2015, 10:44:33 PM

It looks like TheGr33k will be escrowing their sig campaign. He has yet to post a signed contract though.

I have sent him a PM. Hope he won't escrow it.

...who is TheGr33k?

Welp, just checked and it's some Full Member who has a positive trust score because of someone escrowing a deal for him and Vod giving him a 0.001 BTC loan...oh dear.

Jesus Christ I would escrow the damn thing just so no-one gets scammed, no offense to TheGr33k but when did Full Members start escrowing signature campaigns like this Undecided

Hopefully TC escrows it.

I don't endorse this at all but I don't want to see people scammed in all fairness.

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