Topic: CoinBet Casino & Sportsbook - 125% Match Bonus plus March Madness Contest! - page 15. (Read 25128 times)

What's up with the mismatched cert? This site brutally fails SSL/TLS https://www.ssllabs.com/ssltest/analyze.html?d=coinbet.cc&ignoreMismatch=on

They are wide open to MITM (no trust/mismatch cert) and DOS (client init renegotiation attack). Got gigantic red warning in Chromium didn't even bother signing up. Is there at least 2FA for withdrawal? If you must have a self-signed cert at least PGP key sign it's cert SHA1 fingerprints on your http landing page so we know it's the right one.

Reading through this saga makes me have so many questions it's not even funny.

If I were Coinboss and everything he said was true, I would not even request my funds back, I would be pulling out the guns and looking for suspicious people. I've watched Casino and wouldn't want to end up in a shallow desert grave.

How did he scam the casino? All I see is that multiple accounts were apparently opened which violated the T&C but that is not scamming. If what he said about them zeroing out his balance is true, then he sent them 100 and turned it into 21000 then thats not scamming, he deposited real funds and won using that. Does coinbet.cc believe that he manipulated their games somehow? If so, they haven't posted that and in fact other people have posted that in the recording they acknowledge that they reviewed it and he won. If that's true then Coinbet has been caught in a lie and not the other way around.

I don't know and really this has been a fun read but exhausting at the same time.

Coinboss -

You owe us an explanation. Are you agreeing to settle because I requested proof that you and computer are not the same?

Coinbet.cc -

Coinboss' decision to settle, if that's what he's doing, does not absolve you from the many questions people have. Also, will you return his initial deposit, or will you stand by your word to not cave to a scammer?

Can't say I speak for everyone, but inquiring minds would like to know.

That's the way it appears to me as well. We may never know.

Not nearly enough time, actually.
Why should it be dropped? Isn't the info everyone is requesting what we need to make up our minds? Don't understand rationale.
Please let me know where these issues can be dealt with? We can move it there, doesn't matter to me. Surely you're not talking about dealing with these issues privately... Questions were posed publically. Oh, maybe you're referring to moving is over to the scam accusation thread? Nope... Still doesn't apply. No one calling this casino a scam, we'd just like answers is all.

Does this make sense

if I had to guess, I'd say both did something wrong, at least in part.

any one can give some information about who is guilty party in this all 

wow, what happened to coinboss ?
Did his brain washed ?

Wow finally taking him up on the offer?  What happened why the change of heart?

i would like other more informed ppl to be at help/support for those whom in need for more accurate info too  

Satosh, what's it to you anyway? If Cris wants to help people out to make informed decisions this is the place for the discussion about the coinbet casino/book.

well i think you did spend more than enough time in here for(...!?...)
why don't you just drop it. and let every one make their mind about their service.
and all other issues can be dealt with other places.

Coinbet.cc -

I forewarned this community is a difficult crowd; I didn't mislead you. I also suggested that you stand firm and hang in there. I still honor that position. But part of standing firm is making sure you have a solid leg to stand on.

Right now... your leg is in the form of answers/responses to the many questions we have. Please don't feel rushed, but don't take too long, don't want anyone else to take your spotlight. Good/bad publicity is all the same. Vindicate yourself by offering real answers. I assure you that lots of us will shut the fuck up and begin to see you in a different light. Understand that we want to see bitcoin related businesses succeed, but equally important, we want and need the integrity that comes along with service oriented providers.

We'll even make this easier for you... Anyone willing to compile all the unanswered/need clarity questions we posed into one post? I'd do it, but I'm working right now and can't dedicate that much time.

Yeah, the vouchers were. But honestly I don't blame them for cancelling the voucher system. Actually, I don't even have an issue with it being changed mid roll-out. What I don't agree with is patrons who didn't try scamming the system weren't grandfathered in under the original requirements (whatever those were... I'd have to look). That's the part I think caused the most headache for us.

Whew! Glad I'm not the only one who noticed that. I wasn't sure if I was reading too much into things   I do that sometimes, a lot actually.

Plus, the vouchers were a MAJOR fiasco.  You were handing them out left and right, and nowhere was there any explanation about what the requirements would be for the vouchers.  The terms talk about "bonuses" but you have separate bonuses so the question is - are vouchers bonuses or not?  There was no clearcut answer.  Then you changed the rules in the middle of the game and said, "but wait, there are strings attached, you have to deposit to use the voucher, etc."  Then you canceled the vouchers.  Honestly, yes scammers should not have taken advantage of you, but at the same time there is no one to blame but yourselves. 

Now people are left with a bad taste in their mouth and some questions because you gave out these vouchers and then basically changed the terms on them and then canceled them.

Cris your comment of this:

We do not accept deposits or wagers from the USA, so legal or not I’d be fighting a losing battle because I’m from the USA. No point in even discussing it further.

Shows a major issue with the site.  They say you can't play from US, and if you do they will close your account etc., but they are dying to get US players to play there based on previous posts, I think in this thread, where the owner says "if you're from US you won't even have to enter personal data".  They will pay smaller amounts but they CAN point to those terms at any time and say  they won't pay you because you violated.  This is one example of some of the confusion I see in the terms.  You guys really need to get a lawyer, or someone smart at least, to look at and revise the terms.

Why don't you address these issues? Do you still claim that you are provably fair AND that is a different software than that of Betwincasino?

Damn it. I can't help myself.... Just a few points here, nothing out of the ordinary when situations like this arise.

- coinbet.cc, some of your posts are contradicting, you're called out on some but you manage not to respond conclusively
- coinbet.cc you're making claims that computer and Diaz are the same but have nothing concrete to back it up except that Diaz disappeared. He posted yesterday. We can't use that reason.
- computer, you're willing to prove you're not Diaz. If you're willing to send me DOX to prove it (Diaz would have to as well) I'm willing to verify.
- computer, while you bring up other people's accusations, you're pretty passionate about Diaz’s. I wouldn't go as far to say its proof you're him, but don't fault if you're accused. Not until you show real proof will we be satisfied.
- coinbet, you've been asked by several members to proof of a couple a couple of things. This is normal. Let's forget about that email until we have proof it's real. And assumptions from other people of the possibility of your inability to pay large wins will also stick in our mind. 700 addresses or not, it shouldn't be hard to post a couple that contains a nice sum.
- Diaz, I personally have witnessed a thread where the scammee was throwing proof left and right and he actually turned out to be the real scammer in the deal. I'm not calling you a scammer, but the audio was a nice touch in helping you out. You'll never get paid but the truth about this needs to come out regardless.
- coinbet, it seems internal processes are broken. Your reps not knowing your T&C is unacceptable to say the least. You should also configure that red flag system to notify your reps ASAP.

Got a few more but we'll start here.

I listening to the audio right now... I give up! lol. This only generated more questions...

Diaz - How much did you initially deposit and what was the total amount of voucher credit and bonus you received on that deposit? And before you attempted to get resolution here, why didn't you reach out and try to get a loan or something for the 6k? You could've offered someone 2 grand for fronting you or something. I wouldn't think doing that would be considered scam behavior but IDK.

coinbet.cc - Diaz's violation of the T&C aside, I'm confused why he had to deposit 30% of his winnings to withdraw? I thought the requirement for withdrawal was based on bonuses and voucher credits, not winnings? That's what I'm gathering from this. If he had to deposit the 6k, a 1/3 of his winnings, would he then have to meet requirements to withdraw the 21k?