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Quote from: From Above on June 25, 2014, 07:20:50 AM

Quote from: DNScode on June 25, 2014, 07:14:05 AM

Hey guys. I've just open my favourite service called coinmarket and do you know what did i see? My favourite bytecoin is marked as Significantly Premined. What? Guys are you kidding me?

How can you say that BCN is premined if it was announced 2 years ago? Prooflink https://bytecoin.org/old/index.html
Are you out of your mind?

flawed logic, cuz released 2 years ago it cant have been be premined... LOL Cheesy

bytecoin was premined about 80% and its proven for fact. U are the kidding entity not 'Us'.

~CfA~

Pff. Ok. Let's talk about what term "premine" exactly means.
Since this idea you can call "Bitcoin" premined and you know why? Because godblessed Satoshi have at least 25% of whole coin supply. So what?

Cheesus

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Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 25, 2014, 07:03:09 AM

Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 05:20:46 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

Hey fuckface - again, we're not stupid. You're using AN ACCOUNT YOU BOUGHT.

Reference: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/repaid-i-want-to-short-20btc-until-january.67496/#post-1142765 (reference to flower1024's domain / site)

Note on that domain: http://k1024.de/accountsold.txt

"bitcointalk account flower1024 sold. new account name: onemorebtc"

You're just digging yourself a hole that is deeper and deeper.

FACT: Bytecoin was a bad attempt at covering up a premine

FACT: Bytecoin has a completely fabricated blockchain

FACT: Bytecoin has 82% of the coins in control of people we don't know

FACT: Bytecoin's blockchain was not observed by anyone who is well known or trusted

FACT: Bytecoin has plenty of advocates...unfortunately they're all newbs who don't count, or bought accounts

FACT: Bytecoin's website (and CryptoNote's) did not exist till the end of last year (same as the CryptoNote whitepaper)

Quote from: Cheesus on June 25, 2014, 05:42:59 AM

Agreed.

I'm not a hater of XMR of any kind but this is getting out of hands. Literally in every CN-related topic there are XMR people FUDing BCN. And their arguments are not bulletproof to say the least.

Anyway, I think XMR doing a great job promoting CN in it's community but FUD is not a good thing to do.

I'm not "XMR people", I'm an independent observer who is tired of seeing all the bullshit posts from accounts that have been purchased. Nobody cares about your shilling.

Independent observer whose account is 2 month old. And was created in the same day as XMR topic.

Your conspiracy theories are crazy - all you have to do now is state

FACT: Bytecoin was written by nazis/marsians/freemasons etc. and expect everyone to believe you.

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Quote from: DNScode on June 25, 2014, 07:14:05 AM

Hey guys. I've just open my favourite service called coinmarket and do you know what did i see? My favourite bytecoin is marked as Significantly Premined. What? Guys are you kidding me?

How can you say that BCN is premined if it was announced 2 years ago? Prooflink https://bytecoin.org/old/index.html
Are you out of your mind?

Shit dude. The same question.

It's also not a secret that BCN had a huge number of miners. There were also some services on darknet which is about Bytecoin trading. Maybe you can find some nowadays. In my opinion, it's the best proof, that BCN isn't a currency which is bla-bla-bla-premined.

Somebody said that age of currency doesn't mean that coin can't be premined. So give me please the other criterions of premined status

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Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 25, 2014, 07:03:09 AM

Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 05:20:46 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

Hey fuckface - again, we're not stupid. You're using AN ACCOUNT YOU BOUGHT.

Reference: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/repaid-i-want-to-short-20btc-until-january.67496/#post-1142765 (reference to flower1024's domain / site)

Note on that domain: http://k1024.de/accountsold.txt

"bitcointalk account flower1024 sold. new account name: onemorebtc"

You're just digging yourself a hole that is deeper and deeper.

FACT: Bytecoin was a bad attempt at covering up a premine

FACT: Bytecoin has a completely fabricated blockchain

FACT: Bytecoin has 82% of the coins in control of people we don't know

FACT: Bytecoin's blockchain was not observed by anyone who is well known or trusted

FACT: Bytecoin has plenty of advocates...unfortunately they're all newbs who don't count, or bought accounts

FACT: Bytecoin's website (and CryptoNote's) did not exist till the end of last year (same as the CryptoNote whitepaper)

Quote from: Cheesus on June 25, 2014, 05:42:59 AM

Agreed.

I'm not a hater of XMR of any kind but this is getting out of hands. Literally in every CN-related topic there are XMR people FUDing BCN. And their arguments are not bulletproof to say the least.

Anyway, I think XMR doing a great job promoting CN in it's community but FUD is not a good thing to do.

I'm not "XMR people", I'm an independent observer who is tired of seeing all the bullshit posts from accounts that have been purchased. Nobody cares about your shilling.

First of all, no one of you can tell it's ''premine'' - there's no official source that can tell it's premine without doubt!
According to coinssource its unknown fact still I am sure it wasn't premined as I've made some researches which confirm the statement.

In the second, your ''facts'' are statement without evidence.
1) There are people who express their own opinions
2) No evidence
3) Do you know people who hold a significant amount of Bitcoins? Or Litecoin? or Dogecoin? That's because of anonymity the coins provide
4) Am I get you right - if someone well known tell you to believe whatever they tell , you'd believe?
There were lots of people who believes Mark Karpeles and where is MTgox now?? and Mark?
5) Bytecoin has plenty of enemies who can only FUD Bytecoin
6) Do not merge Whitepaper and Bytecoin. Even CN devs told that whitepaper was published a lot after BCN launch.

So, as there's no evidence, I insist on removing stars, Gliss!

From Above

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Quote from: DNScode on June 25, 2014, 07:14:05 AM

Hey guys. I've just open my favourite service called coinmarket and do you know what did i see? My favourite bytecoin is marked as Significantly Premined. What? Guys are you kidding me?

How can you say that BCN is premined if it was announced 2 years ago? Prooflink https://bytecoin.org/old/index.html
Are you out of your mind?

flawed logic, cuz released 2 years ago it cant have been be premined... LOL Cheesy

bytecoin was premined about 80% and its proven for fact. U are the kidding entity not 'Us'.

~CfA~

DNScode

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Hey guys. I've just open my favourite service called coinmarket and do you know what did i see? My favourite bytecoin is marked as Significantly Premined. What? Guys are you kidding me?

How can you say that BCN is premined if it was announced 2 years ago? Prooflink https://bytecoin.org/old/index.html
Are you out of your mind?

Stanford

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Quote from: Cheesus on June 25, 2014, 05:42:59 AM

Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 05:20:46 AM

Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 23, 2014, 11:03:22 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

Agreed.

I'm not a hater of XMR of any kind but this is getting out of hands. Literally in every CN-related topic there are XMR people FUDing BCN. And their arguments are not bulletproof to say the least.

Anyway, I think XMR doing a great job promoting CN in it's community but FUD is not a good thing to do.

+1

I am sure BCN developers as XMR devs and other coins devs have a considerable number of coins but it's usual situation for real world: a group of people holding a significant share of the coins is likely to stabilize the market, that's why when devs hold some number of coins they are interested in promoting their coin

rethink-your-strategy

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Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 05:20:46 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

Hey fuckface - again, we're not stupid. You're using AN ACCOUNT YOU BOUGHT.

Reference: https://bitcointa.lk/threads/repaid-i-want-to-short-20btc-until-january.67496/#post-1142765 (reference to flower1024's domain / site)

Note on that domain: http://k1024.de/accountsold.txt

"bitcointalk account flower1024 sold. new account name: onemorebtc"

You're just digging yourself a hole that is deeper and deeper.

FACT: Bytecoin was a bad attempt at covering up a premine

FACT: Bytecoin has a completely fabricated blockchain

FACT: Bytecoin has 82% of the coins in control of people we don't know

FACT: Bytecoin's blockchain was not observed by anyone who is well known or trusted

FACT: Bytecoin has plenty of advocates...unfortunately they're all newbs who don't count, or bought accounts

FACT: Bytecoin's website (and CryptoNote's) did not exist till the end of last year (same as the CryptoNote whitepaper)

Quote from: Cheesus on June 25, 2014, 05:42:59 AM

Agreed.

I'm not a hater of XMR of any kind but this is getting out of hands. Literally in every CN-related topic there are XMR people FUDing BCN. And their arguments are not bulletproof to say the least.

Anyway, I think XMR doing a great job promoting CN in it's community but FUD is not a good thing to do.

I'm not "XMR people", I'm an independent observer who is tired of seeing all the bullshit posts from accounts that have been purchased. Nobody cares about your shilling.

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Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 05:20:46 AM

Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 23, 2014, 11:03:22 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

Flower1024 is a bought account purchased in order to promote BCN:

Check one of his old post here:
https://bitcointa.lk/threads/repaid-i-want-to-short-20btc-until-january.67496/

Then look at the website he owns, and on that domain there is this nice textfile: http://k1024.de/accountsold.txt

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Hi Gliss,

How hard would it be to add the daily trade volume of the Nxt asset Exchange to the Nxt 24hr volume? Nxt is being used to buy assests and not just other coins and so the coinmarketcap picture is incomplete at the moment.

In the last 24hrs, there has been 1.4Million Nxt traded on the Asset Exchange that isn't captured in the current 24hr volume. It would add an extra $88,000 dollars to the $97,000 that you are showing and give a complete picture of the amount of NXT changing hands.

Source: http://nxtreporting.com/assetcap.php

I can put you in touch with the webmaster of nxtreporting.com if you need to ask any questions about implementing this.

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Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 05:20:46 AM

Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 23, 2014, 11:03:22 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

Agreed.

I'm not a hater of XMR of any kind but this is getting out of hands. Literally in every CN-related topic there are XMR people FUDing BCN. And their arguments are not bulletproof to say the least.

Anyway, I think XMR doing a great job promoting CN in it's community but FUD is not a good thing to do.

flower1024

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Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 23, 2014, 11:03:22 AM

I think you're wrong here. Even CryptoNote developers said the BCN team exists since 2012 (https://forum.cryptonote.org/viewtopic.php?f=5&t=11&start=10).
And have you seen my research of BCN blockchain? Have a look: https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.7467098 . A lot of people used Bytecoin from the beggining!

For sure Bytecoin devs have a lot of coin, but gossips about the 80% in their hands are ridiculous.

mrcashking

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Thanks for adding WankCoin.

Gliss

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Quote from: Chris001 on June 23, 2014, 09:54:26 PM

NEM has been consistantly traded for over a month.

If CMC is going to be all inclusive, it is not complete without NEM there.

The argument about it being traded on the asset exchange I can see, but not to the point as to refrain from reporting on it. NEM has started many trends, and this is another one.

All the coins that follow in NEMs footsteps will end up in the same situation, so it's not just NEM to think about. Some kind of plan should be made to reflect coins that have value prior to launch. It should be tracked as to the amount, % of change, and volume of activity associated with the trading.

I would think that CMC would want to be a part of that considering they are one of premier websites that report on the value and trading of cryptocurrencies.

Ok, I've added NEMstake to the main listings for now. It'll be transferred over to the assets section when completed.

Quote from: Daedelus on June 23, 2014, 11:01:08 AM

Quote from: Lauda on June 23, 2014, 10:07:44 AM

NXT should be recalculated.

LaudM is right. The total amount of coins is lower now so the market cap should be higher than shown.

On coinmarket cap: 999'997'096

Actual: 999'996'993
Source: Genesis Block > http://nxtreporting.com/?a=1739068987193023818&c=USD

A difference of 103 Nxt.

Thanks for your help LaudaM Cheesy

Quote from: mvidetto on June 23, 2014, 07:51:27 PM

Gliss, current coins are around 460k, total coins over the next 10 years are so will amount to 18.4M.

Quote from: surfer43 on June 24, 2014, 12:59:17 PM

XMR also missing bter https://bter.com/trade/xmr_btc Wink