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Agent99

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Quote from: JJKirsch on June 26, 2014, 12:07:05 PM

Quote from: cyrpi4 on June 26, 2014, 04:03:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Hey, Just wanted to say that I really enjoy coinmarketcap.

I always keep it open as a browser tab and check it dozens of times throughout the day.

I would suggest better charts as my improvement recommendations but other than that, great work!

So do I. Coinmarketcap is great and it keeps me up to date about all changes in price, etc.

Hope they are going stop this unnecessary dispute here and fix the situation with BCN/XMR. Indeed, it's not the thread for discussing which coin is better.

I agree, i don't support disputes like that either, but when you see something CLEARLY UNFAIR you just try to do something about it.

So, along with others here i would prefer this premined status to be removed, because it has nothing to do with BYTECOIN.

That's what I am trying to tell. I don't care much about XMR guys FUDing BCn but when it affects BCN status I can't be silent.
After all what BCN developers have done to CryptoCurrency world, it's just unfair. Poor that XMR guys use FUD to promote their coin.
Neither Fantomcoin nor Quazarcoin don't fud about BCN, only Monero does.

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Quote from: cyrpi4 on June 26, 2014, 04:03:59 AM

Quote from: ?? on ??

Hey, Just wanted to say that I really enjoy coinmarketcap.

I always keep it open as a browser tab and check it dozens of times throughout the day.

I would suggest better charts as my improvement recommendations but other than that, great work!

So do I. Coinmarketcap is great and it keeps me up to date about all changes in price, etc.

Hope they are going stop this unnecessary dispute here and fix the situation with BCN/XMR. Indeed, it's not the thread for discussing which coin is better.

I agree, i don't support disputes like that either, but when you see something CLEARLY UNFAIR you just try to do something about it.

So, along with others here i would prefer this premined status to be removed, because it has nothing to do with BYTECOIN.

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It is funny that you guys talking about premined status and your main argument is that "it was announced two years ago but mining was started only 6 mounth ago".

You know, it looks like you are ready to die for that not-so-clever fact. You can repeat it as many time as you want, but you shouldn't forget that a lot of difrferent digital currencies were in the same situation (like Bitcoin). Moreover, maybe in the same situatuion was Monero (but they just didn't tell you about that). And no one smart here is not going to mark XMR or BTC as premined... but you should realize, that since BCN is marked as a premined, it means that he is not in equal position to other altcoins which easially could be premined too. It's unfair and it could bring our digital and amazing community to the crisis... but if you are so greedy you can continiue to promotie the greatest lie in the world.

Sincerely yours, Green tea with no goddamn sugar.

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Quote from: Gliss on June 26, 2014, 08:39:37 AM

Regarding BCN and the premine, I think we should stick with the definition of "mining before publicly launched". And BCN was not heard of publicly until earlier this year.

If there is something to debate here, it would be weather or not launches on the deep web should be considered public. I'm leaning towards no at this point, but feel free to debate it. It's good to hash out definitions now.

I've said that if you will make your opinion by using that judgement, you can mark BTC as a premined. But you will never do this stupid action.

Daedelus

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Thanks Gliss.

Did you see this one too? Do you plan on listing the Nxt exchange volume and Nxt Asset Exchange volume separately?

Thanks

Quote from: Daedelus on June 25, 2014, 06:38:38 AM

Hi Gliss,

How hard would it be to add the daily trade volume of the Nxt asset Exchange to the Nxt 24hr volume? Nxt is being used to buy assests and not just other coins and so the coinmarketcap picture is incomplete at the moment.

In the last 24hrs, there has been 1.4Million Nxt traded on the Asset Exchange that isn't captured in the current 24hr volume. It would add an extra $88,000 dollars to the $97,000 that you are showing and give a complete picture of the amount of NXT changing hands.

Source: http://nxtreporting.com/assetcap.php

I can put you in touch with the webmaster of nxtreporting.com if you need to ask any questions about implementing this.

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Regarding BCN and the premine, I think we should stick with the definition of "mining before publicly launched". And BCN was not heard of publicly until earlier this year.

If there is something to debate here, it would be weather or not launches on the deep web should be considered public. I'm leaning towards no at this point, but feel free to debate it. It's good to hash out definitions now.

Quote from: Daedelus on June 26, 2014, 08:16:15 AM

Hi Gliss,

Can you add BTC38 to the volume calculation please? They have NXT/CNY and NXT/BTC

http://btc38.com/trade_en.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=nxt

Thanks Grin

NTX/CNY is already in, but they don't expose an endpoint in their API for NXT/BTC (that I know of)

Quote from: Daedelus on June 25, 2014, 04:42:21 PM

Hi Gliss,

NEMStake has been added, which is great, but it isn't presentable in the format that everyone knows the pricing in. A NEMstake is worth about 30,000 NXT at the moment as that is what it is traded in. Could you add Nxt as an option in the display currencies to help with this please? So you have USD, BTC, EUR ... NXT on the drop down list. This will become more and more useful as you add assets from the Nxt Asset Exchange.

Thanks Grin

Hang tight for the new assets section which will show the asset prices in the native currency.

Daedelus

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Hi Gliss,

Can you add BTC38 to the volume calculation please? They have NXT/CNY and NXT/BTC

http://btc38.com/trade_en.html?btc38_trade_coin_name=nxt

Thanks Grin

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Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 25, 2014, 03:37:55 PM

Quote from: Meggie on June 25, 2014, 01:13:43 PM

Quote from: David1978 on June 25, 2014, 12:44:33 PM

When Bitcoin appeared only a couple of people were mining it and everybody seems to be ok with that. Meanwhile, Bytecoin was mined by hundreds. Thoughts?

Im just so puzzled cuz...2 year history, expanding mining teams, strong developers.... seems like everything is ok but then coin appears on site as "significantly premined" and trolls flood the thread.... wtf?

Can you not at least pretend to be different people instead of the same idiot running troll accounts? You write like a Russian with a poor grasp of proper English grammatical constructs, and you use the same acronyms and linguistic style for everything. Obvious shills are obvious.

Rethink your smart ass, asshole. English is not my mother tongue but it does not change the fact that you're an arrogant schmuck thinking a better English makes you smart, or right, or whatever.

I am not different people and I am not Russian. Though I wish I was Russian, you know. I would ask my ex-KGB uncle Boris to find you and teach you a lesson of being nice to people.

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Quote from: ?? on ??

Hey, Just wanted to say that I really enjoy coinmarketcap.

I always keep it open as a browser tab and check it dozens of times throughout the day.

I would suggest better charts as my improvement recommendations but other than that, great work!

So do I. Coinmarketcap is great and it keeps me up to date about all changes in price, etc.

Hope they are going stop this unnecessary dispute here and fix the situation with BCN/XMR. Indeed, it's not the thread for discussing which coin is better.

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Quote from: Hexah on June 25, 2014, 04:23:32 PM

Yeap, Monero did 88 useless commits and brought new bugs to the code. While BCN guys made 3 important steps to the next level technology.
But they are not as conceited as MRO's ones

Indeed, BCN developers made only few changes in code but they've made a significant changes. No doubt XMR developers have also made lots of important changes to their coin improvements. I think smooth and other developers have made a lot for their coin, I can only admire their willing to improve XMR.

But there wouldn't be any XMR, FCN or QCN if there wasn't Bytecoin. I hope that XMR fans at least in token of respect will stop FUDing BCN.

In conclusion, step by step despite all gossips Bytecoin works steadily and the only disadvantage it's got is that BCN doesn't have gui wallet.

Gliss, I think it's time to remove that unacceptable without any proof designation. Please, fix everything asap.

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Quote from: darkota on June 25, 2014, 04:54:52 PM

Quote from: Hexah on June 25, 2014, 04:23:32 PM

While BCN guys made 3 minor updates.

Would you really like to compare? While just looking around, I read the monero devs fixed a issue where one could recreate the same blockchain, I'm not a coder but obviously that was a fundamental issue. And Bytecoin still has it. They also fixed 87 more issues, while Bytecoin devs "fixed" just 3. Bytecoin is laughable.

Bytecoin devs hadnt done shit for cryptonote technology truthfully. They didnt even have a working miner until the monero devs fixed it..

Before approving that Byecoin developers hasn't done anything for CryptoNote you'd better to read what CryptoNote developers tell - http://bitcoinbarbie.com/cryptonote-open-source-technology-concept/

CryptoNote Team:
"As we’ve mentioned before, CryptoNote team was not interested in building a currency. That is when Bytecoin developers took the lead. They are the team of top notch p2p and cryptocurrency developers, which have been contributing to the sphere for quite some time. They finalized our cryptographic and currency prototypes and coded a beautiful solution to represent CryptoNote."

"....the coin was simply under conventional business radars, while Bytecoin devs were wholly obsessed by the technology they were working on and didn’t pay much attention to spreading the word about it."

That's simply explains why a very few people knew about Bytecoin. Even people who are interested in altcoins don't know about all of them. That's doesn't mean coins are premine, that's simply mean that you were out of the the project. It was already mentioned in BCN thread that there were a lot of mining team (at least several dozen and no one knows how many people were in these groups)

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Bytecoin [BCN] vs MONERO [XMR] who will be the winner in the Cryptonote War (Read 1 times)

Guys keep this Coinmarketcap clean please,

it's not here for discussing which Coin is better so i've started a new thread, check it out and have fun!

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=665950.new#new

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Quote from: Hexah on June 25, 2014, 04:23:32 PM

While BCN guys made 3 minor updates.

Would you really like to compare? While just looking around, I read the monero devs fixed a issue where one could recreate the same blockchain, I'm not a coder but obviously that was a fundamental issue. And Bytecoin still has it. They also fixed 87 more issues, while Bytecoin devs "fixed" just 3. Bytecoin is laughable.

Bytecoin devs hadnt done shit for cryptonote technology truthfully. They didnt even have a working miner until the monero devs fixed it..

rethink-your-strategy

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Quote from: Hexah on June 25, 2014, 04:30:18 PM

BCN devs are not as aggressive as monero's guys, you know. And they are not malefactors as others. They do not make trojans for unfair mining.... but MRO does Wink

[citation needed]

Daedelus

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Hi Gliss,

NEMStake has been added, which is great, but it isn't presentable in the format that everyone knows the pricing in. A NEMstake is worth about 30,000 NXT at the moment as that is what it is traded in. Could you add Nxt as an option in the display currencies to help with this please? So you have USD, BTC, EUR ... NXT on the drop down list. This will become more and more useful as you add assets from the Nxt Asset Exchange.

Thanks Grin

Hexah

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BCN devs are not as aggressive as monero's guys, you know. And they are not malefactors as others. They do not make trojans for unfair mining.... but MRO does Wink

rethink-your-strategy

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Quote from: flower1024 on June 25, 2014, 10:55:31 AM

lol this is nice. Wink

looks like the site got hacked. i was not even aware that there was some text documents on the site.

The site got hacked? Really? In that case, please create a text file at http://k1024.de/sitehacked.txt that says the following:

"This is to confirm that the flower1024 Bitcointalk account has not been sold, and my website was hacked, leading to someone posting a completely strange and obviously false claim that the account had been sold."

Be sure to sign that using Florian Werner's GPG key...you are Florian, right?

Hexah

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Yeap, Monero did 88 useless commits and brought new bugs to the code. While BCN guys made 3 important steps to the next level technology.
But they are not as conceited as MRO's ones

darkota

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Quote from: rethink-your-strategy on June 25, 2014, 04:09:39 PM

Quote from: Hexah on June 25, 2014, 01:47:51 PM

Hey @rethink-your-strategy, I got some facts for you too.

FACT: Blockchain started in 2012.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5950616

FACT: Coin started in deep web and then migrated to the open web that's why there is not Bytecoin_2012 website
http://ol346fucnsjru223.onion/ - TOR only

FACT: Bytecoin dev's are THE MOST active and contributive and last updates (with blockchain/API changes).
http://www.reddit.com/r/BytecoinBCN/comments/28nmic/major_bytecoin_update/

FACT: 82% of BCN is in hands of A LOT of people and pump-and-dump is out of the question.
http://www.reddit.com/r/BytecoinBCN/comments/27gk62/bytecoin_bcn_mining_teams_20122014/

Would love to see proofs for your facts, since for now it's just unfounded accusations.

It doesn't matter if it really existed in 2012 or not, the reality is that by the time it was made publicly available in March 2014 it was unacceptably unfairly mined. This is indisputable - 82% of the coins are in the hands of persons whose motives we simply do not know, and since cryptocurrency requires a system to be trustless the argument cannot be made that we must "just trust" that those holders of 82% of the coins will not dump.

Your argument seems predicated on the basis of there being "lots" of miners pre-March 2014. However, the hashrate graph proves this to be a logical fallacy, an attempt at obscuring the facts by shifting the focus of the argument (see: straw man argument) -

Finally, your nonsense about Bytecoin's devs being "the most" active is not only nonsensical, but provably false:

https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 3 commits, 1 contributor, 7115 additions
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 88 commits, 10 contributors, 7806 additions

LOL, just 3 commits from Bytecoin devs...I almost fell out of my chair laughing..It's like there isnt even a dev team for Bytecoin.LOL!!!

Bytecoin was premined over 80%, there is way too much proof shows it was indeed premined 80% by just a few people. I don't get why people are trying to argue over that fact, they can even check for themselves via the blockchain..christ.

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Quote from: Hexah on June 25, 2014, 01:47:51 PM

Hey @rethink-your-strategy, I got some facts for you too.

FACT: Blockchain started in 2012.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.5950616

FACT: Coin started in deep web and then migrated to the open web that's why there is not Bytecoin_2012 website
http://ol346fucnsjru223.onion/ - TOR only

FACT: Bytecoin dev's are THE MOST active and contributive and last updates (with blockchain/API changes).
http://www.reddit.com/r/BytecoinBCN/comments/28nmic/major_bytecoin_update/

FACT: 82% of BCN is in hands of A LOT of people and pump-and-dump is out of the question.
http://www.reddit.com/r/BytecoinBCN/comments/27gk62/bytecoin_bcn_mining_teams_20122014/

Would love to see proofs for your facts, since for now it's just unfounded accusations.

It doesn't matter if it really existed in 2012 or not, the reality is that by the time it was made publicly available in March 2014 it was unacceptably unfairly mined. This is indisputable - 82% of the coins are in the hands of persons whose motives we simply do not know, and since cryptocurrency requires a system to be trustless the argument cannot be made that we must "just trust" that those holders of 82% of the coins will not dump.

Your argument seems predicated on the basis of there being "lots" of miners pre-March 2014. However, the hashrate graph proves this to be a logical fallacy, an attempt at obscuring the facts by shifting the focus of the argument (see: straw man argument) -

Finally, your nonsense about Bytecoin's devs being "the most" active is not only nonsensical, but provably false:

https://github.com/amjuarez/bytecoin/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 3 commits, 1 contributor, 7115 additions
https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/compare/master@%7B1month%7D...master - 88 commits, 10 contributors, 7806 additions

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