Hi GekkeBelg,
For an independent review, we will proceed with sharing the relevant details of your case with a third party - Askgamblers, as you've suggested. We appreciate your patience during this process.
Topic: Coinplay CONFISCATING 291mbtc of fair NBA winnings - page 6. (Read 2264 times)
Ofcourse I do place bets at reputaple sportsbook too. I have accounts at about 50 different sportsbooks. But if I don't encounter a problem, you will ofcourse not hear anything about it. Yes, sometimes I post a compliment to a sportsbook in their ANN thread, but ofcourse you only see a scam accusation topic opened about sportsbooks where I have a problem with. Btw, with Owl and Buff the issue was not sportsbook related, but they thought I was from a forbidden country when I wasn't. The only sportsbook issue I had was with Wintomato, but they agreed to pay me out after a long discussion.
I guess I don't have the right to know but once again I'm asking though you have skipped answering that part of my post/question. What is exactly influencing you to switch/try new casinos a lot of times when you know they can be outright scams? In fact, you have been the victim; this isn't the first time. All of your previous cases had the same approach which brings a concern but I'm still trusting your proofs attached above; you seem to be a trusted guy as well. Because I want to have different odds and betting types to choose from.
OP, it has now become a common practice for gambling websites that show up, advertise here and believe that they will get unbelievable amount of deposits to first pay their players, and then start stealing from them or others who play there. Unfortunately, there are not enough measures available for gamblers to understand what can they do in such cases, where some don't even show up and leave their money on the table. There ain't no enough supportive areas where a gambler can go if he is innocent and becomes a victim of such mischief from a casino. Casinos that do not gain enough from advertising here, just do it straight by stopping the winners winning huge because the casino does not have enough balance to pay the winner.
However, I would still wait to see if coinplay has something reasonable toplay say here to prove their point.
However, I would still wait to see if coinplay has something reasonable to
Ofcourse I do place bets at reputaple sportsbook too. I have accounts at about 50 different sportsbooks. But if I don't encounter a problem, you will ofcourse not hear anything about it. Yes, sometimes I post a compliment to a sportsbook in their ANN thread, but ofcourse you only see a scam accusation topic opened about sportsbooks where I have a problem with. Btw, with Owl and Buff the issue was not sportsbook related, but they thought I was from a forbidden country when I wasn't. The only sportsbook issue I had was with Wintomato, but they agreed to pay me out after a long discussion.
I guess I don't have the right to know but once again I'm asking though you have skipped answering that part of my post/question. What is exactly influencing you to switch/try new casinos a lot of times when you know they can be outright scams? In fact, you have been the victim; this isn't the first time. All of your previous cases had the same approach which brings a concern but I'm still trusting your proofs attached above; you seem to be a trusted guy as well. My bad if I sound stupid!
I just had a visit at OP's profile after reading what coinplay told about your previous accusation about other casinos. You had almost the same problem with owl.games, wintomato, buff.bet; none of these are reputed casinos & coinplay as well. Don't you place bets in reputed casinos? Have you ever encountered such issues? If you haven't, what has influenced you to switch casinos all the time and try new & less reputed casinos? I don't want to conclude anything so fast. Your accusation seems solid with the proof you presented. Can you please share us why you are influenced to check out a new casino all the time despite facing such issues all the time?
I just had a visit at OP's profile after reading what coinplay told about your previous accusation about other casinos. You had almost the same problem with owl.games, wintomato, buff.bet; none of these are reputed casinos & coinplay as well. Don't you place bets in reputed casinos? Have you ever encountered such issues? If you haven't, what has influenced you to switch casinos all the time and try new & less reputed casinos? I don't want to conclude anything so fast. Your accusation seems solid with the proof you presented. Can you please share us why you are influenced to check out a new casino all the time despite facing such issues all the time?
Ofcourse I do place bets at reputaple sportsbook too. I have accounts at about 50 different sportsbooks. But if I don't encounter a problem, you will ofcourse not hear anything about it. Yes, sometimes I post a compliment to a sportsbook in their ANN thread, but ofcourse you only see a scam accusation topic opened about sportsbooks where I have a problem with. Btw, with Owl and Buff the issue was not sportsbook related, but they thought I was from a forbidden country when I wasn't. The only sportsbook issue I had was with Wintomato, but they agreed to pay me out after a long discussion.
My bad if I sound stupid!
I just had a visit at OP's profile after reading what coinplay told about your previous accusation about other casinos. You had almost the same problem with owl.games, wintomato, buff.bet; none of these are reputed casinos & coinplay as well. Don't you place bets in reputed casinos? Have you ever encountered such issues? If you haven't, what has influenced you to switch casinos all the time and try new & less reputed casinos? I don't want to conclude anything so fast. Your accusation seems solid with the proof you presented. Can you please share us why you are influenced to check out a new casino all the time despite facing such issues all the time?
I just had a visit at OP's profile after reading what coinplay told about your previous accusation about other casinos. You had almost the same problem with owl.games, wintomato, buff.bet; none of these are reputed casinos & coinplay as well. Don't you place bets in reputed casinos? Have you ever encountered such issues? If you haven't, what has influenced you to switch casinos all the time and try new & less reputed casinos? I don't want to conclude anything so fast. Your accusation seems solid with the proof you presented. Can you please share us why you are influenced to check out a new casino all the time despite facing such issues all the time?
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You are just wasting your time by giving them the opportunity to pay your winnings. Coinplay representative has already said that they won't help you to get back your winnings.While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
I believe that they won't change their decision if you submit a complaint to a mediation center. Someone has filed a complaint on Askgamblers with similar issue, but Coinplay representative hasn't provided any evidence to the Askgamblers team.
Quote from: https://www.askgamblers.com/casino-complaints/coinplay-casino-they-took-the-winnings-away
We regret to inform you that despite the AskGamblers Complaint Team requests, Coinplay Casino management cannot provide reasonable justification and/or solid evidence which could prove the validity of the accusations against player.
Unfortunately, in this situation, the AskGamblers Complaint Team has no other choice but to close the case as unresolved and advise the player to seek further assistance from the relevant regulatory body or appointed ADR entity.
Unfortunately, in this situation, the AskGamblers Complaint Team has no other choice but to close the case as unresolved and advise the player to seek further assistance from the relevant regulatory body or appointed ADR entity.
So, don't expect anything more from them. Moreover, they are somehow connected with 1xbit casino. We (some forum members) tried to highlight it in their ANN thread before. Both casinos have similar UI. At first, they were showing the old licences information of 1xbit (1xbet) in their casino terms page (see here). Their affiliate terms are also same. Now Coinplay is scamming the users in the same way as 1xbit does. You should create a flag against them ASAP.
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Coinplay, I give you until Saturday to reverse your decision and pay me out my fair NBA winnings. Or to agree to hand over the case to an independent investigator such as Askgamblers or Ecogra (you can choose which one). If you do neither of these 2 options then a flag will be created and a complaint will be filed at the Curacao Antillephone license, which I know has the best reputation out of all 4 license providers in Curacao, and they will take my complaint seriously.
You can end this right here and save your reputation. Be wise.
You can end this right here and save your reputation. Be wise.
OP, I saw you posted the same post on two different threads (Here and Coinplay ANN), which is on two different boards. Kindly avoid doing such things as it violates the forum rules. If you want let them know, You can write different words and refer them to another post that you wrote on different boards.
12. No duplicate posting in multiple boards (except for re-posting topics in the local language boards if they're translated and re-posting marketplace topics in the altcoin boards if altcoins are accepted).
Coinplay, I give you until Saturday to reverse your decision and pay me out my fair NBA winnings. Or to agree to hand over the case to an independent investigator such as Askgamblers or Ecogra (you can choose which one). If you do neither of these 2 options then a flag will be created and a complaint will be filed at the Curacao Antillephone license, which I know has the best reputation out of all 4 license providers in Curacao, and they will take my complaint seriously.
You can end this right here and save your reputation. Be wise.
You can end this right here and save your reputation. Be wise.
If you refuse then I cannot conclude otherwise than that you have something to hide and know you are in the wrong here.
OP, I don't think they will follow what community members suggest. Would you please create a flag, as TwitchySeal already suggested? If they want to prove that they are not guilty and maintain their reputation, They will have to go with 3rd party mediators. You have already Invited them, and other members also asked if they will cooperate with 3rd party mediators. Create a flag and add the link to the OP.
BTW, Coinplay already has an inactive flag created by bachezy for a similar case which can be found from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=3502111;page=iflags. Until they solve the issues, Avoid Coinplay.
100% scam confirmed.
How would anybody be able to "cheat" on NBA games I wonder. hahaha
This reply is a spit in the face of every customer.
Investigation, yeah right.
Freerolling their players, that's it. At least these people gave him the deposit back, unlike 1xbit.
You should definitely create a flag against them, just as TwitchySeal suggested. Hope it gets a lot of support so others will be warned of this site.
How would anybody be able to "cheat" on NBA games I wonder. hahaha
This reply is a spit in the face of every customer.
Investigation, yeah right.
Freerolling their players, that's it. At least these people gave him the deposit back, unlike 1xbit.
You should definitely create a flag against them, just as TwitchySeal suggested. Hope it gets a lot of support so others will be warned of this site.
Hi GekkeBelg,
We understand your frustration, but please be assured that our Risk & Fraud Team does not ban players without a valid reason. We are unable to share specific details about the investigation, as it might inadvertently help potential cheaters.
We also noticed that you have posted a few similar topics on this forum, playing with various bookmakers. This pattern might raise concerns about the possibility of cheating.
While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
We understand your frustration, but please be assured that our Risk & Fraud Team does not ban players without a valid reason. We are unable to share specific details about the investigation, as it might inadvertently help potential cheaters.
We also noticed that you have posted a few similar topics on this forum, playing with various bookmakers. This pattern might raise concerns about the possibility of cheating.
While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
You cannot just confiscate a balance and then not share any details about it. That is outright theft.
The fact that I had 2 scam accusations in this forum before has NOTHING to do with my case with Coinplay. First of all when you confiscated my winnings you did not know about those 2 earlier scam accusations because you didn't even know my username in here, and secondly in those 2 scam accusations the other party paid me out my funds so they agreed with me that I was right in the end.
Do you dare to direct my case to an independent party such as Askgamblers or Ecogra and let their decision be binding? If you are 100% sure you have proof that I cheated then this should be the golden opportunity for you to a) keep my winnings in your pockets and b) brush up your reputation on here.
If you refuse then I cannot conclude otherwise than that you have something to hide and know you are in the wrong here.
Hello! Same thing happened to me few weeks ago.
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinplay-scammed-me-out-of-1300-usdt-5441574
They are scammers, complete copy of 1xbit, sorry for your loss
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/coinplay-scammed-me-out-of-1300-usdt-5441574
They are scammers, complete copy of 1xbit, sorry for your loss
Hi GekkeBelg,
We understand your frustration, but please be assured that our Risk & Fraud Team does not ban players without a valid reason. We are unable to share specific details about the investigation, as it might inadvertently help potential cheaters.
We also noticed that you have posted a few similar topics on this forum, playing with various bookmakers. This pattern might raise concerns about the possibility of cheating.
While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
Had a feeling this would be the response.We understand your frustration, but please be assured that our Risk & Fraud Team does not ban players without a valid reason. We are unable to share specific details about the investigation, as it might inadvertently help potential cheaters.
We also noticed that you have posted a few similar topics on this forum, playing with various bookmakers. This pattern might raise concerns about the possibility of cheating.
While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
If you think someone's a sharp bettor and don't want their action, that's fine. But you can't make that decision retroactively since being a sharp bettor that gets limited often doesn't make you a cheater.
OP create a flag.
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We are unable to share specific details about the investigation, as it might inadvertently help potential cheaters.
You don't have to share everything in public. Would you mind Cooperating with 3rd party mediators? May we know which mediators you guys support? Quote
While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
He already wrote the case in detail. I don't think he has to share more details about it. You should provide support on this case unless you want to ruin the reputation you are trying to build in this forum. I guess you already noticed the negative feedback on your profile.
Hi GekkeBelg,
We understand your frustration, but please be assured that our Risk & Fraud Team does not ban players without a valid reason. We are unable to share specific details about the investigation, as it might inadvertently help potential cheaters.
We also noticed that you have posted a few similar topics on this forum, playing with various bookmakers. This pattern might raise concerns about the possibility of cheating.
While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
We understand your frustration, but please be assured that our Risk & Fraud Team does not ban players without a valid reason. We are unable to share specific details about the investigation, as it might inadvertently help potential cheaters.
We also noticed that you have posted a few similar topics on this forum, playing with various bookmakers. This pattern might raise concerns about the possibility of cheating.
While you're free to have your opinion, we stand by our team's decision. We returned your initial deposit and won't be providing further support on this issue.
But he is not satisfied with that. Coinplay representative account was active a few minutes ago.
Don't expect everyone to find everything that is happening on the forum. Have anyone informed them about the accusation?Coinplay have scammed me out of my fairly won NBA winnings. Read more about it here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61986669
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.61986669
You better send them a PM. I have PMed a few people today so far. I don't want to PM anymore in case there are any limit set for PM and I hit it 🤣
You're "limited" to 1200 PMs per day. 
But he is not satisfied with that. Coinplay representative account was active a few minutes ago.
Don't expect everyone to find everything that is happening on the forum. Have anyone informed them about the accusation? Looking at the account history I can assume they don't even notice the red tag LOLBecause I have already contacted them per email. Wrote a long email and received zero reply.
You better send them a PM. I have PMed a few people today so far. I don't want to PM anymore in case there are any limit set for PM and I hit it 🤣Reminds me of 1xbit.
Can't think of any reasonable explanation aside from OP leaving out very important details, which seems unlikely after skimming his history.
I left feedback for coinplay and would support a flag at this point.
Can't think of any reasonable explanation aside from OP leaving out very important details, which seems unlikely after skimming his history.
I left feedback for coinplay and would support a flag at this point.
This 10000%
Its definitely 1xbit/1xbet/22bet
The responses received are definitely from the same people/cust support. (they always say "wait for specialist")
Its just a 1xbet scam and i wouldnt expect the winnings @OP
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Oh wow.
That is very detailed information, and it seems Coinplay simply trying to scam this guy. Coinplay is here for a couple of months only, and there was another scam accusation against them. Coinplay scammed me out of 1300 USDT. The old scam accusation was partially solved as the Coinplay team returned his deposit. But he is not satisfied with that. Coinplay representative account was active a few minutes ago. They did not bother to write anything yet even though they already got a negative feedback. Interesting case to follow.
That is very detailed information, and it seems Coinplay simply trying to scam this guy. Coinplay is here for a couple of months only, and there was another scam accusation against them. Coinplay scammed me out of 1300 USDT. The old scam accusation was partially solved as the Coinplay team returned his deposit. But he is not satisfied with that. Coinplay representative account was active a few minutes ago. They did not bother to write anything yet even though they already got a negative feedback. Interesting case to follow.
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