Topic: Cops immediately shot a 12 year old holding a toy gun without warning. - page 3. (Read 6203 times)

the question is, why in some countrys people feel that they need to buy guns at legal or black markets as you wish...

I really think that they have in mid that there will be always enemys arround, so they need to protect themselft from an non-real enemy, they are his own enemys.... dont know if you understand what i want to say...


Not all cmon, you cant generalize, but i agree with you, most of them are...


Is really sad that those things happends, but what made me fell really sad is to know that this will never change... and this will never change because there will be people that want that it never change....

Only "easy" to get a gun on the black market, not legally, so everyone with a gun and not a uniform is by default assumed to be a criminal. If law-abiding, sane victims were not "gun controlled" out of our human right to self-defense, LEOs would be forced to select murder victims more carefully, or get lead poisoning from victims/good Samaritans.

If anything this proves two things :

1- US Police are way trigger happy, instead of using their weapons as a last ressort.

2- The firearms situation is just ridiculous, the situation is mainly due to the ease of circulation of firearms and the ease of getting one....

And on top of that, I have read that it is a right to open carry State. 

This is straight murder/manslaughter. If a suspect has is armed who pulls right up to them and jumps out, especially on the side of the armed assailant, this is rookie at best. This is some Rambo shit, they could have parked away and got over the PA and gave commands.

There is literally  1-2 seconds from door opening to death, that kids fate was sealed before the cops even got there.

http://www.copblock.org/ is a geat site, every day they have 3-4 new vids/articles on another cop doing something fucked up.

They are the criminals, the murderers, the bullies and teh thiefs.

All cops are completely incompetent. You actually have to fail a basic knowledge tests to be cop. They want to make sure you wouldn't be useful somewhere else in society... like the next Einstein or Tesla.

In the present state of the nation, it would NOT be a good idea to instantly push everyone into being armed. It took many decades to sucker the people into believing that government would protect them. They aren't ready to jump back into guns across the board.

Back before the 1930s, there were almost no taxes on the people for anything, including no income tax, and no inheritance (death) tax. Now we are taxed on just about anything that government can come up with the idea to tax us on. And we are taxed in blood on the streets by our renegade police forces. It all has to do with guns in the hands of the people.

But, we need to start somewhere. We need to change laws all across the nation to Arizona style and more, that people can open carry, that people can conceal carry without registration and permit, that government starts programs to get many more neighborhood groups into the same kind of training that police get, and finally that government stops restricting the levels of armament that common people have.

The result won't be chaos and anarchy. The result will be respect of people and their rights by other people. If we don't start this, the police death toll will rise, because people won't put up with this forever. On top of it, just like Cody Wilson has produced practical printed guns, and tabletop gun-making machines that make REAL metal guns, people are going to find ways to make other armament that might be more deadly than guns, just to put down the police rebellion, and then the military when it steps in.

I don't think it would be good for "everyone" to be armed, as much of the population is not equipped (eg does not have training) or is not capable (eg is not mentally competent to make appropriate decisions with a firearm) of owning a gun.

Well, the last several decades of law and policy on firearms ownership do not support this.

They more or less show an increase in personal firearms rights, along with an increase in police aggression and militarization.

This is where we are going to have a big fight on our hands. Nobody likes a fight, but it's about time that our freedoms are brought back to ourselves.

Whenever you break a law (supposedly), if you do no harm or damage, and especially if the State or Federal brings charges, you win. The answers are http://www.broadmind.org/ and http://1215.org/.

It may not be easy. You may have to sue the people (their bond) rather than their position in office to make them finally toe the line, but our freedoms were never meant to be usurped like they are usurping us. FFL for a corporation, yes. FFL for a human being simply making a product for sale, no.

Doing this for personal use is legal. The moment you sell it as a full receiver, or transfer it out of state you are required to be licensed as a FFL (at least).

Perhaps. But in Arizona, July 2010, the law became, no permit or registration for concealed carry. Of course, there is none for open carry.

Since then, Arizona folks have been quietly arming themselves in all kinds of ways. Law Enforcement and the media acknowledge that violent crime has gone down in Arizona, but they can't figure out why.

Alan Korwin is a top gun book writer in Arizona. He writes gun law books for all the States. His take on things is that government and the media are simply unwilling to admit that we don't really need law enforcement if the people arm themselves. Alan is careful not to say it straight out like this. But, go check him out at http://gunlaws.com/ and http://gunlaws.com/PageNineIndex.htm.

we both know they will make a revision to the law to make home made receivers illegal. but by that time the technology will already be in the hands of civilians. changing the law is easy. taking away all those guns is impossible. it will be an interesting time when government goons aren't the only ones carrying protection.

The talk at https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwRtll3jjU4&feature=youtu.be isn't complete. What they are talking about is the law regarding what constitutes a finished lower receiver. Before you drill the screw holes in the chunk of metal that will become a lower receiver, it technically is not a lower receiver. As such, it can be shipped anywhere, free of gun laws. The tabletop milling/drilling machine shown simply adds the screw holes and some other refinements that turns the chunk of metal into a lower receiver.

The milling/drilling machine is set up so that you can program it for any number of different kinds of guns. You simply get a base chunk of metal mailed to you. The metal is within the limits that gun laws say that it is not a lower receiver. Then you mill/drill it into the lower receiver that it was meant to be. If you do it this way, it remains outside the laws for gun manufacture, unless you sell in mass quantity.

Check your local gun laws before you do it.

i saw a report on those printed guns. it's awesome. they already have little control over the gun market. soon they will have no control and everybody will have home made guns. that's both exciting and scary at the same time but i'm eagerly awaiting the day the people are fully armed and wondering how the government will react and what direction society will take.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwRtll3jjU4&feature=youtu.be



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g5fhBBipU3w

If you happened to know the law in the UK, you would realize that you and anybody could keep a gun for protection against prowlers. If government complained, you could shut them down in common law court by filing a claim against the government people as individuals at Queen's Bench. http://www.unkommonlaw.co.uk/

good find. most people already knew they were hiring idiots. they have been turning away officers that score "too high" on IQ tests for years.

Unholy fuck...
http://twitter.com/sirosenbaum/status/540248819137781760

I think the real question is how many GENERATIONS of unbroken mafia control has the city been under?