Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 127. (Read 29937 times)

Just changed it to the entire country:



ALL OF ITALY NOW IN EMERGENCY LOCKDOWN source

• Strict quarantine measures extended to all regions
• Public told to stay home
• Schools closed until April 3rd
• No travel unless with a valid work or family reason
• All public gatherings and sports events suspended

No, that is the guy YOU are discussing. I am discussing an actual scientific study. Just move along Captain Semantics.


More on the OP:

"Coronavirus can travel twice as far as official ‘safe distance’ and stay in air for 30 minutes, Chinese study finds"

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074351/coronavirus-can-travel-twice-far-official-safe-distance-and-stay


"Coronavirus ‘highly sensitive’ to high temperatures, but don’t bank on summer killing it off, studies say"

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/science/article/3074131/coronavirus-highly-sensitive-high-temperatures-dont-bank-summer

Yeah.  Vitamins are good for you.  Not bad. 

The guy we were discussing, and that now seem to be defending, claimed: "The coronavirus pandemic can be dramatically slowed, or stopped completely, with the immediate widespread use of high doses of vitamin C.".

He created that narrative.
Then he wrote a bunch of press statements to commentate on his own statement.
Go click around a couple of the articles.  Should only take a couple clicks before you realize you're looking at one giant ad.

Assumptions? Very scientific. Or we could, you know not make assumptions just because they serve your little semantic distinction, we could also do that. I will take my study abstract over your bullshit articles, thanks. FYI, there are lots of studies on vitamin C treatments for a wide variety of diseases if you bothered to look for them objectively instead of just cherry picking articles which confirm your bias. I am sure feeling right is more important than learning something and potentially saving lives so you can stroke your ego though.

Why don't you just say that you want proof that it was CV and not something else? Real proof, and not a bunch of media reporting what might be fake news, over and over and over.

It doesn't explicitly say orally in the abstract, I made an assumption based on what was included in the abstract.

Unless we have access to the actual study, all we can do is make assumptions based on the abstract...right?  You really shouldn't play the 'he made an assumption therefore he is wrong' card if you are using only the abstract of a study to make a point.

Hey look who it is, Captain Semantics here to distract from the point in order to backpedal to feel the most right about the worlds wrongs. Please quote in the abstract where it says "orally". Vitamin C is an effective treatment and prevention for viral infections. The end.

The 'megadose' in that study is 1,000 mg hourly for the first 6 hours, of the first day, and then 3 1,000 mg doses every day after.  All taken orally.

The fake news article is recommending a dosage of 4.000 mg - 16,000 mg, taken by IV.(for people with the virus)

"RESULTS:

Overall, reported flu and cold symptoms in the test group decreased 85% compared with the control group after the administration of megadose Vitamin C.

CONCLUSION:

Vitamin C in megadoses administered before or after the appearance of cold and flu symptoms relieved and prevented the symptoms in the test population compared with the control group."

Just stop talking. Please.

You've been duped again BADecker.

The guy who wrote that article is the same one who started the whole thing, not the 'Shanghai Government'.  He's in the business of selling books and videos about herbal supplements to people who visit fake news websites.
The article is just an ad for his own websites and content.

https://andrewsaul.com/
http://orthomolecular.org/
http://www.doctoryourself.com/

https://www.health.harvard.edu/cold-and-flu/can-vitamin-c-prevent-a-cold
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/29/facebook-posts/no-vitamin-c-cannot-slow-or-stop-spread-coronaviru/
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/02/fake-coronavirus-cures-part-3-vitamin-c-isnt-a-shield/

as usual you should read more and gloss over less
relieving symptoms. does not = preventing getting the flu itself
have a nice day though

its like saying
if you got the sniffles where your endlessly sniffing and annoying people around you with that sniff sound due to a runny nose for 2 weeks.
actually blowing your nose or if you have a mucussy throat. spitting it out instead of just coughing/swallowing will make the sniffs less apparent and the coughs less apparent and you will probably get over it in less than 2 weeks.
this does not mean blowing your nose and spitting will prevent you ever getting the flu. just reduce and alleviate the severity and length of the suffering of the symptoms.

If you want to move outside of your municipality you'll need an auto-certification that you are doing so for the reasons coinlocket stated, so it's not an extremely enforced lockdown but it's still something...
Let's hope it helps!

Entire Italy will "be locked" in a few hours.
Movements allowed only for work (cause is ok if you can die for work you know) and for food/medicines.

The isolation is the only way until a vaccine will pop out to fight the virus.

As usual, you should talk less, and read more.

"The effectiveness of vitamin C in preventing and relieving the symptoms of virus-induced respiratory infections."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/10543583

no badecker

no matter what you eat or drink or juice wont make all illnesses unrecognisable(symptomless)
people will still get them. they can help reduce the severity of it and the length of time suffering from it. but again it aint no cure

take hangovers.
theres a thing called a 'bananabag' which is a solution containing all the rehydration fluids and vitamins and stuff that can be intraveneously injected straight into the blood stream for fast matabolisation.. yet people will still feels symptoms of the hangover. yes for a shorter period. but even with al the correct fluids pumped directly into the bloodstream its not a instant cure 2 minutes later.

same goes for things like eating berries and fruits.. your body does not store vitamins for a rainy day. so when your sick. you will become deficient of hydration and vitamins so its then that you will need to replenish them. and its then that your body has to go through the time consuming process of digesting such, let it get into the blood stream and go to the cells where needed and then the cells do what they are needed to do.. again it takes time. thus your going to not be preventing nor curing instantly.

its just to lessen the effects.
put it this way. if you drink 6litres of water 3 days before going into a desert. does not prevent you from getting dehydrated once in the desert.
..
like wise having no water in the desert will certainly make you super dehydrated when in the desert.
..
but if you stay hydrated by having water with you in the desert. you may just be ok and not feel as dehydrated as you would in previous cases.

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same goes for the 'banana bag' thing with alcohol. having a banana bag injected into you before going to a bar wont make you not have a hang over the next morning

All you are saying is something that is true for almost any disease. Almost all medicine, and all vaccines, don't cure anything. All they do is give the body/immune-system some of the tools necessary to fight the malady.

Staying healthy doesn't mean that one looks healthy. Staying healthy is maintaining an immune system that can fight of any disease, and maybe any poison from snake or insect bite.

The way to stay healthy like this is to eat a variety of plants, and some meats. The variety of plants include the juices from green leafy plants, and the peels of many kinds of berries and grapes. Plus, the proteins from legumes/beans should be included along with the proteins from meats.

Often the way to get sufficient amounts of the right nutrients from plants, is to juice the plants, drink the juice, and eat small amounts of the whole plant. If we all consumed small amounts of loads of varieties of plants from around the world - especially the tropics - in the above, juicing way, we would probably become so healthy that maladies we don't even recognize in ourselves, would show themselves by disappearing.

Supplementation with vitamins and other nutrients might even impact us negatively if we did the above. As an added benefit, we just might be able to throw away Viagra while having more fun.

vitamin C does not cure or prevent corona

the point of vitamin C is that for people with weak immune systems and bad health due to vitamin deficiency, they will feel more negative effects compared to someone who is completely healthy and vitamin efficient

its like saying to help with a runny nose. use tissues so that you dont suffer from snot face
this does not mean that tissue prevent a runny nose nor prevent getting the flu. it just helps alleviate some of the negative symptoms.

another tip for corona is to stay hydrated. this does not mean water cures or prevents corona. but will alleviate symptoms

another tip for corona is to stay warm. not because heat cures or prevents corona. but can alleviate the chills people get when they get the flu

Shanghai Government Officially Recommends Vitamin C for COVID-19
https://humansarefree.com/2020/03/shanghai-government-officially-recommends-vitamin-c-for-covid-19.html


Orange with about 3 inch diameter is ~ 100 milligrams
Strawberries, one serving (147 grams) has 86.5 milligrams of vitamin C, and slows cognitive degeneration.
One small head of cauliflower (with a four-inch diameter) has 127.7 milligrams of vitamin C
One serving (148 grams) of chopped broccoli adds up to 132 milligrams of vitamin C.
One serving of kiwi offers 137.2 milligrams of vitamin C.
A cup of mashed papaya has a whopping 140 milligrams.
Kale, two cups of this veggie, chopped, offers 160.8 milligrams of vitamin C.
Red Bell Peppers, one cup of raw, chopped red bell pepper packs an impressive 190.3 milligrams of vitamin C. Green pepper has 119.8 milligrams.

Nope

Is it a disease, illness, sickness, indisposition, condition, disorder, or merely a malady?

Dose it produce symptoms, distemper, aches, pains, or only misery?

Is it infectious, contagious, transmittable, or is it merely communicable?

Do semantics make it any more or less of a threat?