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March 12, 2020, 03:51:56 PM
I think that the suspention of all flights coming to US from Europe is not going to solve the problem in the US. Coronavirus is already there and other measures should be taken to control it.

There other measures being taken, and restricting travel is one of those measures that has helped.  No, it won't solve the problem, but it will help to prevent it from getting worse.  The last I heard there are around 2000 confirmed cases in the US, and 30 confirmed deaths.  That's a lot fewer than the number of cases in Europe and the UK, or in Asia.  Considering the size/population of the US, and how common air-travel is, that's a good sign that something is working to prevent wide-spread contraction of the disease.
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March 12, 2020, 01:22:44 PM
The swine flu vaccination fraud of 1976
https://youtu.be/f1jV3tJ2Lqw

It is very important to maximize the body's anti-oxidative capacity and natural immunity to prevent and minimize symptoms when a virus attacks the human body.
http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n04.shtml

BTW
Coronavirus will Bankrupt more People than it Kills

Careful with orthomolecular. It's touted as a 'peer reviewed science journal' but it's really just a pseudo science/conspiracy site used to push all those dietary supplements you see on fake news sites.
The Author (Andrew Saul) is absolutely a fraud.



This picture is from last Saturday at Trumps Florida resort:



The guy on the right has tested positive for coronavirus.
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March 12, 2020, 11:09:39 AM
The swine flu vaccination fraud of 1976
https://youtu.be/f1jV3tJ2Lqw

It is very important to maximize the body's anti-oxidative capacity and natural immunity to prevent and minimize symptoms when a virus attacks the human body.
http://orthomolecular.org/resources/omns/v16n04.shtml

BTW
Coronavirus will Bankrupt more People than it Kills
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March 12, 2020, 03:31:33 AM
In the last 24 hours:

  • WHO made it official, it's a pandemic.
  • All travel to and from the US and Europe will stop for 30 days, starting Friday.
  • Italy completely shut down all private businesses other than grocery stores and pharmacies.
  • The NBA suspended their season indefinitely.
  • DOW JONES fell into first bear market in over 10 years.
  • NY State issues state of emergency and plans to lock down a small community outside NYC.
  • NYC subway kiosk touch screens will now be sanitized twice a day instead of just once.


    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

The situation is very serious.
All countries try to tackle the expansion of Coronavirus. I think that the suspention of all flights coming to US from Europe is not going to solve the problem in the US. Coronavirus is already there and other measures should be taken to control it.
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March 11, 2020, 11:25:28 PM
In the last 24 hours:

  • WHO made it official, it's a pandemic.
  • All travel to and from the US and Europe will stop for 30 days, starting Friday.
  • Italy completely shut down all private businesses other than grocery stores and pharmacies.
  • The NBA suspended their season indefinitely.
  • DOW JONES fell into first bear market in over 10 years.
  • NY State issues state of emergency and plans to lock down a small community outside NYC.
  • NYC subway kiosk touch screens will now be sanitized twice a day instead of just once.


    https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
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March 11, 2020, 10:55:29 PM
SARS-CoV-2 virus, about 70 countries have not reported any infections
Of the Infected 57 Countries have no death or recovery reported
24 have no reported deaths
13 have more deaths as recovered
Data from Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE)
* Health expenditure of GDP in 2016.  The winner was Monaco with 1.75%   Source
# Lets give some credit and assume some partially recovered to get past div 0

------------------DiedRec.Death/Rec.GDP *
Singapore0960,00%4,47%
Bahrain0350,00%4,87%
Malaysia0260,00%3,80%
UAE0170,00%3,52%
Vietnam0160,00%5,66%
Oman090,00%4,29%
Romania060,00%4,98%
Mexico040,00%5,47%
Israel040,00%7,31%
Austria040,00%10,44%
Russia030,00%5,27%
Belarus030,00%6,32%
Azerbaijan030,00%6,89%
Pakistan020,00%2,75%
Kuwait020,00%3,90%
Sri Lanka010,00%3,89%
Senegal010,00%5,51%
Saudi Arabia010,00%5,74%
Latvia010,00%6,24%
Nepal010,00%6,29%
Iceland010,00%8,29%
Finland010,00%9,49%
Denmark010,00%10,35%
Norway010,00%10,50%
Cruise Ship73252,15%
Thailand1342,94%3,71%
Egypt1273,70%4,64%
China3172628575,05%4,98%
Taiwan1175,88%6,67%
Iran354295911,96%8,10%
Germany32512,00%11,14%
Canada1812,50%10,53%
Japan1511812,71%10,93%
Australia32114,29%9,25%
Korea, S6028820,83%7,34%
India1425,00%3,66%
Spain5518330,05%8,97%
UK81942,11%9,76%
Iraq71546,67%3,31%
Indonesia1250,00%3,12%
Italy827104579,14%8,94%
Switzerland44100,00%12,25%
Philippines22100,00%4,39%
Sweden11100,00%10,93%
Lebanon31300,00%8,02%
Belgium31300,00%10,04%
France4812400,00%11,54%
US388475,00%17,07%
Morocco10,1#1000,00%5,84%
Albania10,1#1000,00%6,70%
Panama10,1#1000,00%7,26%
Ireland10,1#1000,00%7,38%
Argentina10,1#1000,00%7,55%
Bulgaria10,1#1000,00%8,23%
Greece10,1#1000,00%8,45%
San Marino20,1#2000,00%6,40%
Netherlands50,1#5000,00%10,36%
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March 11, 2020, 07:44:45 PM

Why can't they recover so they don't need an organ transplant? Do you think, maybe, that they were subject to a good sales pitch about their condition from the medical, and really never needed the transplant in the first place?

Cool

There are many things that are oversold and in US medicine for profit but transplants don't typically fall into that category. Its very hard to get a transplant regardless of need due to a shortage of healthy donor organs.

Your correct that many transplant patients could have healed themselves naturally and avoided a transplant but the window of opportunity for such healing is usually long gone by the time a transplant is ever discussed. The kidneys and liver have a limit to their regenerative capacity. They can heal to a point but past that they won't recover.

The two most common causes of Kidney failure are diabetes type II and hypertension both of these can often be
treated by diet, exercise, and weight loss. The most common causes of liver failure are alcohol abuse and hepatitis infection also both preventable.

In health as in so many other areas of life people are often their own worst enemies.
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March 11, 2020, 04:07:04 PM
Italy has been closed even more.

Every store now must be closed only food and drugs can be sold.

Every commercial activity must close.

Also, they starting to use a drug on patients with for now good results in one patient (used on 2 so far)

The drug is the same one used in China and is called tocilizumab.

Source: https://www.ilmessaggero.it/salute/ricerca/coronavirus_farmaco_napoli_anti_artrite_news_ultime_notizie_oggi_11_marzo_2020-5105167.html
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March 11, 2020, 03:55:12 PM

Yes and no, if someone recently had organ transplant it is almost a certainty you can add him to the list as he would be on drugs to suppress the immune system, at least two such cases in Korea.
It also would depend what previous illness, age...

The other day a 101 year old recovered, 96 year old recovered, a 73 another 100....

Yeah, the immune system. All depends on how strong the person is to fight it just like other pandemics.

Korea is claiming to test 40k people per day and the discussion is going on in US too. Italy has turned into a prison. The videos are disturbing where they are dragging people by force if they have slight fever. They are treating them like street animals Sad
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March 11, 2020, 03:35:36 PM
In India, one man was admitted on 7th March as he tested positive and on 11th he recovered too. If people have a previous medical illness, this virus would prove fatal.
Yes and no, if someone recently had organ transplant it is almost a certainty you can add him to the list as he would be on drugs to suppress the immune system, at least two such cases in Korea.
It also would depend what previous illness, age...

The other day a 101 year old recovered, 96 year old recovered, a 73 another 100....

Why can't they recover so they don't need an organ transplant? Do you think, maybe, that they were subject to a good sales pitch about their condition from the medical, and really never needed the transplant in the first place?

Cool
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March 11, 2020, 03:18:26 PM
In India, one man was admitted on 7th March as he tested positive and on 11th he recovered too. If people have a previous medical illness, this virus would prove fatal.
Yes and no, if someone recently had organ transplant it is almost a certainty you can add him to the list as he would be on drugs to suppress the immune system, at least two such cases in Korea.
It also would depend what previous illness, age...

The other day a 101 year old recovered, 96 year old recovered, a 73 another 100....
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March 11, 2020, 03:08:31 PM
In India, one man was admitted on 7th March as he tested positive and on 11th he recovered too. If people have a previous medical illness, this virus would prove fatal.
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March 11, 2020, 02:58:58 PM
"50-100mg is more or less in line with this"
https://humansarefree.com/2020/03/shanghai-government-officially-recommends-vitamin-c-for-covid-19.html
In China now about 20 die a day (26 yesterday, 22+ today), Italy at this rate overtakes China but has only a fraction of the population
There is no money to be made with it, thats a problem for big pharma

Dr. Luc Montagnier the discoverer of HIV  https://youtu.be/XSSpoFq7uhM?t=16

Also, (including the 4000+)
27,251,614 Births this year
11,440,881 Deaths this year
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March 11, 2020, 02:34:39 PM
If this is not a cure than what is? How much closer to death can anyone be.
https://youtu.be/VrhkoFcOMII

A truck load of Vitamin C will not prevent infection.  The Body can not store large amounts.
Regular vegies and fruit is more than enough of recommend amount. For anti-ageing larger amounts can be taken, but want make someone more than 100% healthy that is the same fallacy as vaccine and have over-unity body (machine).
Sepsis, back in the old days seamen had issues with it.  Yes, Vitamin C deficiency of not having fresh vegetable and fruit for weeks.
There is no proven case anyone overdosed of Vitamin C.  Depending how much poison is in the body frequent and quick runs to the toilet with a large dose is almost certain.

Interesting video. Looks like this happened in 2009. Stories like this can change things. There has recently been research on this topic.

Note the results from the recent Cleveland Clinic study I linked above. They gave around 50-100 grams of vitamin C depending on weight to critically ill ICU patients over a period of three days.

In the study, 167 ICU patients with sepsis and ARDS who had been hospitalized for less than 24 hours were randomized to IV infusion of 50 mg/kg vitamin C in dextrose 5% in water or placebo every 6 hours for 96 hours.

At day 28, mortality was 29.8% in the vitamin C group versus 46.3% in the placebo group [95% CI, 2% to 31.1%]).

That is a very impressive difference in mortality.

Conclusion: If it was me and I had sepsis I would want it.

There is a large randomized controlled trial currently being done in the US for this. The ACTS trial. If the results of that confirm the Cleveland Clinic study then the treatment will probably become part of the standard of care for everyone.
https://clinicaltrials.gov/ct2/show/NCT03389555
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March 11, 2020, 12:42:53 PM
If this is not a cure than what is? How much closer to death can anyone be.
https://youtu.be/VrhkoFcOMII

The Body can not store large amounts.
Regular vegies and fruit is more than enough of recommend amount. For anti-ageing larger amounts can be taken, but want make someone more than 100% healthy that is the same fallacy as vaccine and have over-unity body (machine).
Sepsis, back in the old days seamen had issues with it.  Yes, Vitamin C deficiency of not having fresh vegetable and fruit for weeks.
There is no proven case anyone overdosed of Vitamin C.  Depending how much poison is in the body frequent and quick runs to the toilet with a large dose is almost certain.
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March 11, 2020, 11:37:33 AM
In regard to the debate upthread about vitamin C not being a cure for the flu. It is not a cure for the flu but that does not mean it is not potentially helpful both as a means of avoiding getting sick or avoiding death in the case of severe illness. Here are a few randomized controlled trials that will help people understand this better.


Effect of vitamin C on common cold: randomized controlled trial.
"A randomized, controlled 5-year trial suggests that vitamin C supplementation significantly reduces the frequency of the common cold but had no apparent effect on the duration or severity of the common cold."
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16118650

Study Suggests Benefits of Vitamin C for Severe Sepsis
"“Patients in the control arm were much more likely to die within the first three to five days in the ICU than were the patients on vitamin C. The mortality benefit associated with vitamin C seemed to continue for the duration of the ICU course,”
https://consultqd.clevelandclinic.org/study-suggests-benefits-of-vitamin-c-for-severe-sepsis/

The best of course would be a vaccine or a targeted monoclonal antibody that the virus could not mutate around but lacking that vitamin C is not a bad idea at all when dealing with a virus with the potential for death and no other treatments.

I ordered some vitamin C and some elderberry extract to mail to my elderly grandmother.  She is in her 90s and is at high risk from this.

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March 11, 2020, 09:30:17 AM

Chinese president visited Wuhan today.
https://youtu.be/K6fVpr6MAag
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March 11, 2020, 07:56:04 AM
corona virus is spreading fast as it spreads under developed countries where medical facilities are not good chances will increases very fast to other countries too and travel restrictions are must to contain virus spread , testing facilities and supplies are not scares even in usa ( according news i saw ) there are less number of testing supplies and testing for corona virus is not easy and its expensive ,

there 2-4 vaccines developed by scientist  and i saw that i would take around 6 months to do testing samples and 3 moths to approve so around a year
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March 11, 2020, 12:19:08 AM
Heavily censored in Western media, and in fact in Iraq too from what I get of the description of the story.  Happened in a Kurdish area of Iraq which is pro-USA and doctors were threatened with death if they talked about it.

The story is that a shipment of red baseball caps came in through the U.S. consulate.  In the rim of these hats is some strain of coronavirus encased in micro-spheres which protect it and release it when there is moisture.  That is, when someone puts it on and sweats.

https://www.mashreghnews.ir/news/1050173/فیلم-هدیه-جدید-کرونایی-آمریکا-به-عراقی-ها

A simplistic person will say "can't be...we are friends with the Kurds."  Someone who is paying attention will have seen this kind of thing before.  A lot.   Basically when a 'crisis' strikes a community a designer can rush in to 'help' with funds and supplies (and guns, helicopters, howitzers, etc, in this case.)

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March 10, 2020, 11:44:02 PM
SARS-CoV-2 virus, about 70 countries have not reported any infections
Of the Infected 64 Countries have no death or recovery reported
29 have no reported deaths
7 have more deaths as recovered
Data from Center for Systems Science and Engineering (CSSE) (Will see tomorrow if Diamond Princess is again the same numers,  it sure cant be)
* Health expenditure of GDP in 2016.  The winner was Monaco with 1.75%
# Lets give some credit and assume some partially recovered to get past div 0

------------------DiedRec.Death/Rec.GDP *
Singapore0780,00%4,47%
Malaysia0240,00%3,80%
Bahrain0220,00%4,87%
Vietnam0160,00%5,66%
UAE0120,00%3,52%
Oman090,00%4,29%
India040,00%3,66%
Mexico040,00%5,47%
Israel040,00%7,31%
Austria040,00%10,44%
Romania030,00%4,98%
Russian030,00%5,27%
Finland020,00%9,49%
Pakistan010,00%2,75%
Indonesia010,00%3,12%
Sri Lanka010,00%3,89%
Kuwait010,00%3,90%
Senegal010,00%5,51%
Saudi Arabia010,00%5,74%
Cambodia010,00%6,08%
Latvia010,00%6,24%
Nepal010,00%6,29%
Iceland010,00%8,29%
Belgium010,00%10,04%
Denmark010,00%10,35%
Norway010,00%10,50%
Sweden010,00%10,93%
Gibraltar010,00%9,76%
Thailand1333,03%3,71%
China3162657624,81%4,98%
Japan101019,90%10,93%
Iran291273110,66%8,10%
Germany21811,11%11,14%
Canada1812,50%10,53%
Australia32114,29%9,25%
Diamond-P64015,00%-
Korea5424721,86%7,34%
UK61833,33%9,76%
Philippines1250,00%4,39%
Italy63172487,15%8,94%
Switzerland33100,00%12,25%
Egypt11100,00%4,64%
Lebanon11100,00%8,02%
Spain3532109,38%8,97%
Iraq73233,33%3,31%
France3312275,00%11,54%
US288350,00%17,07%
Morocco10,1#1000,00%5,84%
San Marino20,1#2000,00%6,40%
Netherlands40,1#4000,00%10,36%


Edit:
Changes in the 24h (20 had no change, Iraq seams some mistake somewhere)
------------24h-death24h-rec,%24h-+%24h-rec
Romania030100,00%
Saudi Arabia010100,00%
Latvia010100,00%
Indonesia010100,00%
Iceland010100,00%
Gibraltar010100,00%
Lebanon11100,00%100,00%
Oman07077,78%
Mexico03075,00%
Israel02050,00%
Austria02050,00%
Finland01050,00%
Philippines01050,00%
UAE05041,67%
Bahrain08036,36%
India01025,00%
Iran5433718,56%12,34%
China2658730,82%8,93%
Thailand0206,06%
US207,14%0
Japan1010,00%0
Spain7020,00%0
Netherlands1025,00%0
Italy168026,62%0
Australia1033,33%0
Switzerland1033,33%0
UK2033,33%0
France14042,42%0
San Marino1050,00%0
Morocco10100,00%0
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