Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 48. (Read 29873 times)

badecker. you make s stupid comment and i link it. but just because i dont re-link when you repeat the comment a few weeks later doesnt suddenly mean your no longer debunked

the links i gave you include all the info you need. i know you cant understand the links i reference. but thats because when you ask for actual science references you will get actual science references. thus you hen have to learn actual science to then understand it

so while arguing with yourself that you request the actual science. and then argue with yourself that you cant understand the science. maybe you have to choose one of 3 options

1. realise you dont understand science and give up
2. learn the actual science so you can understand what you thought you asked for
3.(read below)

heck ill make it simple. if you find a word or a method or a technology or a process mentioned in a link. google it. study it and learn it

i do sometimes respond with a dumbed down version to help you learn. but instead of learning it. you then pretend that its just dumbed down stuff and not the science..
thus again avoiding learning and just finding excuses to be ignorant.

so
3. stop asking for info if your not willing to read, learn, understand the info.
if you dont want to learn it dont ask for it, infact just dont bother getting involved in conversations you have no desire to learn something about

whether the inspection for the slightly affected countries has been properly carried out, is it impossible for the sampling inspection to be carried out according to the rules. which is feared because the examination carried out is not optimal so that it is not detected thoroughly. because it was feared that the sampling was wrong and indeed the examination was not optimal, it could happen. We can understand because the inspection tool is quite expensive so it is really indicated that the test was carried out. if this happens it may not reflect the maximum examination.

That's what we like about you, franky1. Always a bunch of claims, but seldom any reference to see if the claims are true or not.

If BADecker did indeed talk about the way to prove things, and if they were proven the way BADecker said, let's see the proof, right?

You manage to show a bunch of general links here and there, once in a while. But without a direct reference to the actual part where the proof is shown, neither you nor anybody knows what was really done. You are kinda saying something like, "The proof is in the library of Congress. And the address of the Library of Congress is, '101 Independence Ave, SE'."

Are you even once going to show some of a report that actually follows through with the protocols and the postulates? Are you ever going to show the wording from a test that even shows that they did the tests properly? I would like to see it. Dr. Andrew Kaufman would like to see it.

So far, all we get out of you is a bunch of hearsay.

Somebody might have done the tests properly. Please show us where, and prove it by showing the actual wording.

and yet badecker himself said the way to prove that things are done proper is if they pass the koch, rivers and bell psotulums/tests.. and they did
so debunking badeckers mindless thoughts yet again.
mindless because i already debunked his rationale of how the tests are faulty ages ago, but he seemed to have forgot

but it seems now badecker wants to think millions of people are on some conspiracy script where they all know about it. where it is somehow the delivery drivers of the samples from the test centre to the labs that are some nefarious group of people around the world tainting samples

sorry but to arrange such an elaborate conspiracy of so many people around the world is not even logical

badecker. how about actually learn the whole process involved.

No debunk there. If you are handed the whole sample, who knows what you isolated? Could have been anything.

What this really means is that the so-called virus could have been introduced after the sample was taken.

Or, the material caused to grow could be the only material that would grow under those circumstance and with the particular growth chemical.

Or, many materials were grown, but none of them are analyzed enough to see that there are dozens of materials that put out the same test reactions.

Consider making your own magic rocks in a fish bowl - https://www.thoughtco.com/make-your-own-magic-rocks-607653.

This doesn't mean that doctors are dishonest. All it means is that the test wasn't designed to detect anything for diagnosis.

You are debunked.

lets handle this little chestNUT
PCR isnt just handed the virus to test.
its handed the whole sample of bodily fluid
 the whole process is to ISOLATE the virus from the human bodily fluid. and to do this they need to identify the human strands to isolate and disgard
then they can concentrate whats left over and test it

tash try to research human specimen control
it took me less than 3 minutes to debunk your link.

If you have to amplify multiple times to get results as with corona test you end up with irregular results no matter what.
Testing 10 times the same person on result will be positive
https://pieceofmindful.com/2020/04/06/bombshell-who-coronavirus-pcr-test-primer-sequence-is-found-in-all-human-dna/

Thanks for agreeing with me in a little more detail than I brought forth.

There are very few countries Santa Clause does not visit.
If someone is of the opinion some virus can exist just as well in + 40° celsius and -30° celsius, in humid like really muggy wet contition and dry as dry can be, then he is also of the opnion Santa Clause will bring some goods soon again.
The real virus is the idiot box, tell (lie) vision.

There are few countries which are affected only few numbers of people by covid 19. According to https://www.worldometers.info/ there are 3 countries where number of affected people is less than 10 and there are 13 countries where affected number is less than 20. It means they have affected too low but that doesn't mean they have not been affected.

But watch this - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI - starting at about 47 minutes. There are 6 countries in Africa that almost weren't affected by Covid. The reason seems to be that, even though they had many visitors from China, they also had hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). They had been using HCQ for years for malaria. And even though HCQ wasn't as effective for malaria as they would have liked, it was almost 100% effective for Covid.

What's really interesting is that these countries didn't even think about using HCQ for Covid. Why not? Because they never had more than a few Covid-sick people. So they didn't even deem Covid a problem to worry about. HCQ protection was incidental for them, based in their HCQ malaria protection. But it was there all the same.

Even though HCQ is being blocked in the USA and a few other countries, you can get its sister medications all over the place. They might not work as well, but they work. Watch the rest of the video to find and see a list of these medications.

Corona virus spread some countries only?? 215 countries affected by corona virus. You can see all 215 countries from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Also you can see update of each country on each 24 hours. Now it is not some countries it is all countries in the world.

Obviously, Corona virus has spread over some countries, like US, Australia, South Korea, and some countries are confirming the virus in different angle.
Face mask yourself, when you are in public place, stay indoor, is preferable because some  people have contacted the virus, which them don't know, washing of hands, wearing of face mask, and don't sneezs in public place.

Maybe the tests are all wrong. Maybe not only isn't there any virus, but also the tests simply show "trash" results. However, as the article says, below: "... unless pigs can fly." But pigs CAN fly. People fly them all over the place at times, in airplanes. And people make vaccines, right?


Why You Shouldn't Believe Anything The Government Says About Vaccines And Viruses

Idoit boxes, yes, they are still a thing
https://youtu.be/sFi2rgCvjNU
 Rik Mayall † 9. Juni 2014

If flies drop like flies, why are there so many of them left around us?

Vaccines are BS, and so is most of what you say.

if people drop like flies due to a cytokine storm then the vaccine is not effective because a cytokin storm is what the novel virus causes. and what a vaccine is meant to help prevent

by you pretending the actual virus is mild and doesnt trigger a cytokine storm is ignorant.
by you saying that a vaccine triggers a cytokine storm is ignorant of the whole purpose of a vaccine

if people start turning up in hospital with cytokine storm triggered pneumonia and it shows they had a vaccine. then questions will come up
its how the hospitals in december first realised that something wasnt right and they actually tested and swabbed people and by december30th realised it was a new virus..
all because people having a cytokine storm who shouldnt be having one were turning up to hospital

and look how fast things changed

many medications have recalls even if the pass their initial trials. this is because the medical industry actually does have ethical standards
(unlike 'supplements' which dont have to do trials or be honest about what they supposedly help with, or even any safe dosage trials)

what should be considered is more likely bad batches rather than overall ineffectiveness after it passes the trials

take media's response to russia
they passed first and second phase and now waiting till october to give an extra 3 months 'monitoring' before starting phase 3 which will be on doctors and teachers (not whole population)

media however are saying that russia are racing ahead and racing too fast and are going to be inoculating the whole population in october

when you look at the actual facts that even the UK and america are actually preparing to be having some kind of social distance policy even into 2021 then you know that no virus is going to be ready in a few months

when old vaccine trial were done. regulations meant that lab guys had to wait a year between each trial and involving alot more bureucratic stuff before moving onto the next stage the delay due purely on the paperwork was several months
EG write a report. get consents, get peer reviews, have the peer reviews come to a conclusion and then they might get funding to proceed to next stage. once the funding committee read the conclusions and then consult together. then adveertise for volunteers make enough doses for next stage, then invite the volunteers in giving them a few weeks to book off some holiday from work or a day off and such


now its streamlined that once they have a report they can get funding to move to next stage
of preparing more doses and advertising for volunteers while also having that 3 month to monitor the phase 2 trial for long term after effects
 and the committee review the studies and double check the claims while the prep work is being done for the next phase so that by the 3rd month. its all done in one go concurrently instead of old style consequentially

EG russia a prime example. it passed phase 2 but wont start phase 3 until october but has been given the green light to actually do phase 3. now between today and october the commitees can review the 2trial and can pull the plug if they find errors. rather than wasting months checking. then further months preparing then further months initiating

Various kinds of T cells play a role in both systems in current generally accepted theory although it is clear that there are lots and lots of mysteries.

Unfortunately there is no mystery about how to make money n vaccines.  Get Antibodies.  Period.  Even if it means giving the victim a lifetime of autoimmune syndromes in traditional vaccines.

In the case of AstraZeneca's RNA tech (at least) it mean permanently damaging the immune system's ability to use interferon with MERS genetic sequences so it doens't disrupt their designer plasmids.  No one thought to wonder if screwing with this aspect of the immune system, noting that bears primary responsibility for dealing with one's own misbehaving cells (that is to say, cancer) might cause some long term issues.  Or did they?  Doesn't matter since fast-tracking the vaccine to combat this mild cold known as 'covid-19' ensures that there will be no long term safety studies.  As long as the cancer doesn't show up within half a year they are golden.  Almost certainly this is why the pharma companies are demanding (and getting) complete legal immunity from lawsuits against anything they do.


As the AstraZeneca chief scientist says, humans actually respond in a notably different way than do lab animals.  So they added a bit more MERS gene sequences to their so-called vaccine.

In work on a coronavirus vaccine a decade ago the lab animals dropped like flies due to cytokine storms upon re-challenge.  I guess we'll in real life if that happens to humans after the army force=vaccinates everyone in the U.S. (except the wealthy presumably.)

the unethical misread bit tvbcof talks about is that although people volunteer to have a vaccine. doctors then later do not force the actual virus on people by making them lick the faces of sick people or perform mouth to mouth exposure... as that is unethical

however many trial use candidate demographs where their natural exposure from their home/work life puts then at a high chance of getting exposed to the virus later without any forced exposure
this group is usually doctors followed by teachers.
the UK,US and even russia are doing their phase 2 and 3 trials on this group. because its not jsut about side effects or longevity of the vaccine. but also exposure NATURALLY to other people in their lives that can pass on the virus.

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the other part of the study where they said that antibody rates went up for the 3 months after symptom onset. is a sign that the person that recovered. was getting persistant exposure to people around them so the antibodies were fighting off the next infection before any symptoms appeared

doctors are doing periodic blood sampling of those taking the vaccine because seeing levelling out of antibody production means there is no current threat. but seeing a rise later means it has detected a threat. and not having symptoms but having this raised antibody count long after the first recover is a sign of re-infection assymptomatically. which is a good sign it done its job

what they dont want to see is where people that were sick months before get sick again to the same extent they did the first time

First of all, T cells are involved in the adaptive immune system, not innate immune system. Secondly, clinical trials are when vaccines are tested on humans, and those are not forced. People consent to participate. Whatever response is seen on test animals can be tested to see if the response is mimicked in humans.