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the unethical misread bit tvbcof talks about is that although people volunteer to have a vaccine. doctors then later do not force the actual virus on people by making them lick the faces of sick people or perform mouth to mouth exposure... as that is unethical

however many trial use candidate demographs where their natural exposure from their home/work life puts then at a high chance of getting exposed to the virus later without any forced exposure
this group is usually doctors followed by teachers.
the UK,US and even russia are doing their phase 2 and 3 trials on this group. because its not jsut about side effects or longevity of the vaccine. but also exposure NATURALLY to other people in their lives that can pass on the virus.

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the other part of the study where they said that antibody rates went up for the 3 months after symptom onset. is a sign that the person that recovered. was getting persistant exposure to people around them so the antibodies were fighting off the next infection before any symptoms appeared

doctors are doing periodic blood sampling of those taking the vaccine because seeing levelling out of antibody production means there is no current threat. but seeing a rise later means it has detected a threat. and not having symptoms but having this raised antibody count long after the first recover is a sign of re-infection assymptomatically. which is a good sign it done its job

what they dont want to see is where people that were sick months before get sick again to the same extent they did the first time

First of all, T cells are involved in the adaptive immune system, not innate immune system. Secondly, clinical trials are when vaccines are tested on humans, and those are not forced. People consent to participate. Whatever response is seen on test animals can be tested to see if the response is mimicked in humans. 

^^^ Talking about "fail," I saw a license plate that read CMNFAIL . Do you think the car might belong to a woman?

Actually, no.  It's terrible news.  No vaccine works on the innate immune system and the technology ignores the fact that the system even exists.

Even the ultra-modern mRNA vaccines work by trying to result in as many antibodies as needed (to reach an arbitrarily government set value required for licensing as 'effective' since finding out if they actually stop a person from getting a disease would be 'unethical'.)  The innate immune system (T-cells) are really fucking things up for the vax makers.  Periodic 'boosters' are quickly not working whatsoever in humans who seem to have a notably different immune system in this regard compared to laboratory animals when it comes to dealing with coronavirus specifically.  The mRNA designers are having add things to STOP the innate immune system from working [since it works against the vaccine itself] so that they can get the antibody count up to regulatory levels.  And they don't even know how long these re-programmed cells with damaged innate immunity will live on pumping out designer antigens.  They probably don't even know if the T-cell damaging framework effects only the re-programmed cells (which were successfully invaded with the designer genetic material) or all cells in the area.  I put a vid from from the AstraZeneca developers explaining this little issue a few days ago.

If ever there was a technology which set up to fail spectacularly it is this 'warp speed' mRNA and DNA vaccine...to be administered domestically in the U.S. by the army, and with the president (in red-face) strongly hinting that it will be at gunpoint.

Of course 'fail' means different things to different people.  Giving someone a debilitating chronic disease which requires a lifetime of expensive medication is 'not a bug; but rather a feature' to Big Pharma.  And some of these cretins like Bill Gates are pretty sure that the world has about 10 times more people than it should.  From that standpoint there is a possibility that it will be a great success.  Maybe as great as getting SV40 monkey cancer virus into the polio vaccine and ultimately getting cancer rates up to 25%.  My parents and grandparents who got that injection are batting 5 for 6 on getting cancer.  And the 6th (my dad) was told by the 'medical professionals' that he had cancer but he ignored it and nothing came of it.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.20171843v2


Promising news for a vaccine. New study basically suggests you retain antibody immunity after contracting the virus even if you only experienced mild symptoms. You retain these antibodies for an extended period (multiple months is what the study claims).

Yeh, which of the 7 in existence is talked about here?

Human Coronavirus    229E    common cold
Human Coronavirus    OC43   common cold
Human Coronavirus    NL63   was identified in late 2004 in a seven-month-old child with bronchiolitis in the Netherlands
Human Coronavirus    HKU1   was discovered in January 2005 in two patients in Hong Kong
Human Coronavirus    MERS-CoV Middle East Respiratory Syndrome first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012
Human Coronavirus    SARS-CoV Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome 2002-2003. Since 2004, no known cases of SARS-CoV infection reported anywhere.
Human Coronavirus    SARS-CoV-2

Do you see? It's like I said two posts up. Both hydroxychloroquine sulfate and zinc sulfate dissolve in water. Inject them, and call it a vaccine, and you will be saved. Such is probably what the CDC will do when all else fails.

hydroxychloroquine - https://www.drugs.com/pro/hydroxychloroquine-tablets.html

zinc - https://allaboutzincsulfate.weebly.com/

Watch near the beginning of this video - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI - to see the 5 ways that HCQ works to cure you from Covid... and how zinc makes it work better.

Cool!  100% is good.  You are totally free to take it of course.  Weekly if you like!

With 100% effectiveness there is no reason for people who don't wish to take it to be forced because it cannot be argued that we 'anti-vaxxers' are going to endanger anyone who doesn't want to take their chances with the scary scary wirus and prefers the safety of the vaccine instead.

Everyone is happy!

Close to 100% effective? That might be easier than all get-out. Anybody might be able do that today. All they might need is a finely-particulated (dissolved), injected hydroxychloroquine/zinc solution. They could probably use a lot less than they would have to use if given orally.

Unfortunately the second wave is already hitting many countries around the world. And some scientist even say there is going to be a 3rd wave coming this year.

Another lockdown will be terrible. People are already so unhappy with all these social distancing rules. Personally, I wish my old life from last year back 

I have to warn that this is going to be a deeply divisive post.

Russia has started commercial production of the Sputnik V vaccine, which they claim to be the first vaccine against COVID 19. They claim that trials have shown close to 100% effectiveness. The news is very promising, but the big question is whether we can trust them or not. My personal opinion is that since there is no other option available, we should go with this vaccine.

As we are near the end of the summer season we are going to see new lockdowns coming to place.
It is inevitable to avoid it as we are seeing infections increasing all over the world.
Apparently they are going to increase during winter period.

Sorry! I could have used anything else. Must be quantum entanglement.

I hate to be likened to Mr. Frank-n-Beans, but I got two puppies back around April and named them 'Sars' and 'Covid'.  True story.

Imagine that you have a puppy. Your puppy is real. It is sitting on the livingroom floor, wagging its tail, and looking up at you lovingly.

Let's say that you name it Covid (silly name for a puppy, but something you would do). Is Covid real? Of course Covid is real. There it sits on the livingroom floor... real as day.

Is the Covid virus real? Of course not. Viruses aren't real. They are simply extensions of the cells, doing their job of protecting themselves by tricking people into thinking that they are viruses.

Is the Covid pandemic real? Of course it's real! It's real, even though it doesn't have anything to do with stupidity called the Covid virus.

It's so fun playing, isn't it?

and now you flop back to it being fake again

seems you weirdly jump back and forth thinking somedays its real and people need to spread it. then you think its fake and there is nothing to spread. then you think its real and want people to buy stuff you advertise. then you think its fake again

can you atleast try to make up your mind in one direction and stick with it. then it will be much easier you highlight where you go wrong each time

You noticed that, too. It's a request. But wearing this mask returns the opposite of trick or treat candy.


I don't pass my mask on to others. I keep it for some other time. The compassion part is letting people know that they are free, and that the Covid thing is fake. Best way to show it is to not wear a mask.



Like I said in that other post, sometimes you are connected, but most of the time you aren't.

badecker
your being asked to wear a mask just while your in the shop buying stuff..
your not forced to wear it when your in your 'bubble group' of friends you trust
your not forced to wear it outdoors or at friends houses

its about no passing it on to strangers who you dont know their medical conditions or their preferences of wanting t get sick or not.
its about having some compassion/morals and effects and respect for peoples personal space that you come into contact with

i know you are upset that your male masseuse has found an excuse to say no to your demands that he pleasure you. but you cant blame government on the reason your male masseuse wont rub you down

he chose to not let you into his social bubble of people he wants in his personal space. and it seems no money is going to tempt him

Since this is the general case with the general public, and since the leaders in this pandemic realize things like this, what might be the biggest reason for the masks. After all, without the masks nobody sees dozens of people dying around him out on the street, or anywhere.

So, why the masks? They are being used to change the social aspect of the country. Facebook and other major media brought us together. We see the smiles and the frowns on the faces of other people, and we understand them better. Facemasks break up this understanding of other people. It's a divide and conquer activity being used by government.

What do I mean? With all the social integration around because of modern communications, government is becoming less and less important. For the last few decades, the need for the Federal and State governments has almost disappeared. They make laws just to look like they are doing something useful. Watching them work in their Senate and House meetings is like watching a football game, sort of. Useless, unnecessary, and even dangerous... but, for sure, entertaining.

We are moving away from needing anything except a local government. And that's the way it always was meant to be. Big government doesn't like this. No money in it for them. No way for them to screw the people if they are voted out of existence. And that is where we are going. Facemasks divide us socially. So, they are making us wear facemasks as much as possible, because if we socialize a little more, they will die by our hand.

The proper use is to have at least 19.5% oxygen concentration.
Most mask reduce it to about 17% which will result in unhealthy low blood ph value if worn for longer period.
Only 6% oxygen concentration is certain death, the closer and longer to the death level the bigger the resulting brain damage.
CO2 is meant to be exhaulted completely otherwise sickness "respiratory acidosis" will be the result.
Reinhaling most carbon dioxide is foolish thing to do as body fights 24/7 to get rid of it.

Proper use, dr Fauci