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legendary
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August 17, 2020, 12:28:14 PM
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.20171843v2

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We found that recovered individuals developed SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG antibody and neutralizing plasma, as well as virus-specific memory B and T cells that not only persisted, but in some cases increased numerically over three months following symptom onset. Furthermore, the SARS-CoV-2-specific memory lymphocytes exhibited characteristics associated with potent antiviral immunity: memory T cells secreted IFN-γ and expanded upon antigen re-encounter, while memory B cells expressed receptors capable of neutralizing virus when expressed as antibodies. These findings demonstrate that mild COVID-19 elicits memory lymphocytes that persist and display functional hallmarks associated with antiviral protective immunity.

Promising news for a vaccine. New study basically suggests you retain antibody immunity after contracting the virus even if you only experienced mild symptoms. You retain these antibodies for an extended period (multiple months is what the study claims).


Actually, no.  It's terrible news.  No vaccine works on the innate immune system and the technology ignores the fact that the system even exists.

Even the ultra-modern mRNA vaccines work by trying to result in as many antibodies as needed (to reach an arbitrarily government set value required for licensing as 'effective' since finding out if they actually stop a person from getting a disease would be 'unethical'.)  The innate immune system (T-cells) are really fucking things up for the vax makers.  Periodic 'boosters' are quickly not working whatsoever in humans who seem to have a notably different immune system in this regard compared to laboratory animals when it comes to dealing with coronavirus specifically.  The mRNA designers are having add things to STOP the innate immune system from working [since it works against the vaccine itself] so that they can get the antibody count up to regulatory levels.  And they don't even know how long these re-programmed cells with damaged innate immunity will live on pumping out designer antigens.  They probably don't even know if the T-cell damaging framework effects only the re-programmed cells (which were successfully invaded with the designer genetic material) or all cells in the area.  I put a vid from from the AstraZeneca developers explaining this little issue a few days ago.

If ever there was a technology which set up to fail spectacularly it is this 'warp speed' mRNA and DNA vaccine...to be administered domestically in the U.S. by the army, and with the president (in red-face) strongly hinting that it will be at gunpoint.

Of course 'fail' means different things to different people.  Giving someone a debilitating chronic disease which requires a lifetime of expensive medication is 'not a bug; but rather a feature' to Big Pharma.  And some of these cretins like Bill Gates are pretty sure that the world has about 10 times more people than it should.  From that standpoint there is a possibility that it will be a great success.  Maybe as great as getting SV40 monkey cancer virus into the polio vaccine and ultimately getting cancer rates up to 25%.  My parents and grandparents who got that injection are batting 5 for 6 on getting cancer.  And the 6th (my dad) was told by the 'medical professionals' that he had cancer but he ignored it and nothing came of it.

legendary
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August 17, 2020, 11:25:27 AM
https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.20171843v2

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We found that recovered individuals developed SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG antibody and neutralizing plasma, as well as virus-specific memory B and T cells that not only persisted, but in some cases increased numerically over three months following symptom onset. Furthermore, the SARS-CoV-2-specific memory lymphocytes exhibited characteristics associated with potent antiviral immunity: memory T cells secreted IFN-γ and expanded upon antigen re-encounter, while memory B cells expressed receptors capable of neutralizing virus when expressed as antibodies. These findings demonstrate that mild COVID-19 elicits memory lymphocytes that persist and display functional hallmarks associated with antiviral protective immunity.

Promising news for a vaccine. New study basically suggests you retain antibody immunity after contracting the virus even if you only experienced mild symptoms. You retain these antibodies for an extended period (multiple months is what the study claims).

sr. member
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August 16, 2020, 10:15:00 AM
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Coronavirus Outbreak
Yeh, which of the 7 in existence is talked about here?

Human Coronavirus    229E    common cold
Human Coronavirus    OC43   common cold
Human Coronavirus    NL63   was identified in late 2004 in a seven-month-old child with bronchiolitis in the Netherlands
Human Coronavirus    HKU1   was discovered in January 2005 in two patients in Hong Kong
Human Coronavirus    MERS-CoV Middle East Respiratory Syndrome first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012
Human Coronavirus    SARS-CoV Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome 2002-2003. Since 2004, no known cases of SARS-CoV infection reported anywhere.
Human Coronavirus    SARS-CoV-2
legendary
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August 15, 2020, 01:45:30 PM
Do you see? It's like I said two posts up. Both hydroxychloroquine sulfate and zinc sulfate dissolve in water. Inject them, and call it a vaccine, and you will be saved. Such is probably what the CDC will do when all else fails.

hydroxychloroquine - https://www.drugs.com/pro/hydroxychloroquine-tablets.html

zinc - https://allaboutzincsulfate.weebly.com/

Watch near the beginning of this video - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI - to see the 5 ways that HCQ works to cure you from Covid... and how zinc makes it work better.

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legendary
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August 15, 2020, 01:27:23 PM
I have to warn that this is going to be a deeply divisive post.

Russia has started commercial production of the Sputnik V vaccine, which they claim to be the first vaccine against COVID 19. They claim that trials have shown close to 100% effectiveness. The news is very promising, but the big question is whether we can trust them or not. My personal opinion is that since there is no other option available, we should go with this vaccine.



Cool!  100% is good.  You are totally free to take it of course.  Weekly if you like!

With 100% effectiveness there is no reason for people who don't wish to take it to be forced because it cannot be argued that we 'anti-vaxxers' are going to endanger anyone who doesn't want to take their chances with the scary scary wirus and prefers the safety of the vaccine instead.

Everyone is happy!

legendary
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August 15, 2020, 01:26:02 PM
I have to warn that this is going to be a deeply divisive post.

Russia has started commercial production of the Sputnik V vaccine, which they claim to be the first vaccine against COVID 19. They claim that trials have shown close to 100% effectiveness. The news is very promising, but the big question is whether we can trust them or not. My personal opinion is that since there is no other option available, we should go with this vaccine.

https://cdn.kalingatv.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/Russia.jpg
https://www.deccanherald.com/sites/dh/files/articleimages/2020/08/15/download%20%2855%29-1597481510.png

Close to 100% effective? That might be easier than all get-out. Anybody might be able do that today. All they might need is a finely-particulated (dissolved), injected hydroxychloroquine/zinc solution. They could probably use a lot less than they would have to use if given orally.

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hero member
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August 15, 2020, 01:19:02 PM
As we are near the end of the summer season we are going to see new lockdowns coming to place.
It is inevitable to avoid it as we are seeing infections increasing all over the world.
Apparently they are going to increase during winter period.

Unfortunately the second wave is already hitting many countries around the world. And some scientist even say there is going to be a 3rd wave coming this year.

Another lockdown will be terrible. People are already so unhappy with all these social distancing rules. Personally, I wish my old life from last year back  Embarrassed
legendary
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August 15, 2020, 12:54:31 PM
I have to warn that this is going to be a deeply divisive post.

Russia has started commercial production of the Sputnik V vaccine, which they claim to be the first vaccine against COVID 19. They claim that trials have shown close to 100% effectiveness. The news is very promising, but the big question is whether we can trust them or not. My personal opinion is that since there is no other option available, we should go with this vaccine.

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August 15, 2020, 11:13:47 AM
As we are near the end of the summer season we are going to see new lockdowns coming to place.
It is inevitable to avoid it as we are seeing infections increasing all over the world.
Apparently they are going to increase during winter period.
legendary
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August 15, 2020, 08:36:00 AM
...

Imagine that you have a puppy. Your puppy is real. It is sitting on the livingroom floor, wagging its tail, and looking up at you lovingly.

Let's say that you name it Covid (silly name for a puppy, but something you would do). Is Covid real? Of course Covid is real. There it sits on the livingroom floor... real as day.
...

I hate to be likened to Mr. Frank-n-Beans, but I got two puppies back around April and named them 'Sars' and 'Covid'.  True story.



Sorry! I could have used anything else. Must be quantum entanglement.

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legendary
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August 15, 2020, 08:07:20 AM
...

Imagine that you have a puppy. Your puppy is real. It is sitting on the livingroom floor, wagging its tail, and looking up at you lovingly.

Let's say that you name it Covid (silly name for a puppy, but something you would do). Is Covid real? Of course Covid is real. There it sits on the livingroom floor... real as day.
...

I hate to be likened to Mr. Frank-n-Beans, but I got two puppies back around April and named them 'Sars' and 'Covid'.  True story.

legendary
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August 15, 2020, 08:00:21 AM
and that the Covid thing is fake. Best way to show it is to not wear a mask.
and now you flop back to it being fake again

seems you weirdly jump back and forth thinking somedays its real and people need to spread it. then you think its fake and there is nothing to spread. then you think its real and want people to buy stuff you advertise. then you think its fake again

can you atleast try to make up your mind in one direction and stick with it. then it will be much easier you highlight where you go wrong each time

Imagine that you have a puppy. Your puppy is real. It is sitting on the livingroom floor, wagging its tail, and looking up at you lovingly.

Let's say that you name it Covid (silly name for a puppy, but something you would do). Is Covid real? Of course Covid is real. There it sits on the livingroom floor... real as day.

Is the Covid virus real? Of course not. Viruses aren't real. They are simply extensions of the cells, doing their job of protecting themselves by tricking people into thinking that they are viruses.

Is the Covid pandemic real? Of course it's real! It's real, even though it doesn't have anything to do with stupidity called the Covid virus.

It's so fun playing, isn't it?

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legendary
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August 15, 2020, 01:04:58 AM
and that the Covid thing is fake. Best way to show it is to not wear a mask.
and now you flop back to it being fake again

seems you weirdly jump back and forth thinking somedays its real and people need to spread it. then you think its fake and there is nothing to spread. then you think its real and want people to buy stuff you advertise. then you think its fake again

can you atleast try to make up your mind in one direction and stick with it. then it will be much easier you highlight where you go wrong each time
legendary
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August 14, 2020, 04:06:34 PM
badecker
your being asked to wear a mask just while your in the shop buying stuff..
your not forced to wear it when your in your 'bubble group' of friends you trust
your not forced to wear it outdoors or at friends houses
You noticed that, too. It's a request. But wearing this mask returns the opposite of trick or treat candy.



its about no passing it on to strangers who you dont know their medical conditions or their preferences of wanting t get sick or not.
its about having some compassion/morals and effects and respect for peoples personal space that you come into contact with
I don't pass my mask on to others. I keep it for some other time. The compassion part is letting people know that they are free, and that the Covid thing is fake. Best way to show it is to not wear a mask.



i know you are upset that your male masseuse has found an excuse to say no to your demands that he pleasure you. but you cant blame government on the reason your male masseuse wont rub you down

he chose to not let you into his social bubble of people he wants in his personal space. and it seems no money is going to tempt him

Like I said in that other post, sometimes you are connected, but most of the time you aren't.

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legendary
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August 14, 2020, 03:31:24 PM
badecker
your being asked to wear a mask just while your in the shop buying stuff..
your not forced to wear it when your in your 'bubble group' of friends you trust
your not forced to wear it outdoors or at friends houses

its about no passing it on to strangers who you dont know their medical conditions or their preferences of wanting t get sick or not.
its about having some compassion/morals and effects and respect for peoples personal space that you come into contact with

i know you are upset that your male masseuse has found an excuse to say no to your demands that he pleasure you. but you cant blame government on the reason your male masseuse wont rub you down

he chose to not let you into his social bubble of people he wants in his personal space. and it seems no money is going to tempt him
legendary
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August 14, 2020, 11:29:52 AM
The positive points about masks seem to be that they work under the right conditions, if they are the right masks. But the right conditions exist only when proper masks are used by professionals who know how to use them correctly.
I have seen a lot of people in our area donot use mask properly, they actually use mask to show that they are using mask. They just want to avoid police. I have also see same types of people in online and print media. They are not aware what is the perfect way of wearing a mask.

Since this is the general case with the general public, and since the leaders in this pandemic realize things like this, what might be the biggest reason for the masks. After all, without the masks nobody sees dozens of people dying around him out on the street, or anywhere.

So, why the masks? They are being used to change the social aspect of the country. Facebook and other major media brought us together. We see the smiles and the frowns on the faces of other people, and we understand them better. Facemasks break up this understanding of other people. It's a divide and conquer activity being used by government.

What do I mean? With all the social integration around because of modern communications, government is becoming less and less important. For the last few decades, the need for the Federal and State governments has almost disappeared. They make laws just to look like they are doing something useful. Watching them work in their Senate and House meetings is like watching a football game, sort of. Useless, unnecessary, and even dangerous... but, for sure, entertaining.

We are moving away from needing anything except a local government. And that's the way it always was meant to be. Big government doesn't like this. No money in it for them. No way for them to screw the people if they are voted out of existence. And that is where we are going. Facemasks divide us socially. So, they are making us wear facemasks as much as possible, because if we socialize a little more, they will die by our hand.

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sr. member
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August 14, 2020, 10:13:03 AM
The positive points about masks seem to be that they work under the right conditions, if they are the right masks. But the right conditions exist only when proper masks are used by professionals who know how to use them correctly.
I have seen a lot of people in our area donot use mask properly, they actually use mask to show that they are using mask. They just want to avoid police. I have also see same types of people in online and print media. They are not aware what is the perfect way of wearing a mask.

The proper use is to have at least 19.5% oxygen concentration.
Most mask reduce it to about 17% which will result in unhealthy low blood ph value if worn for longer period.
Only 6% oxygen concentration is certain death, the closer and longer to the death level the bigger the resulting brain damage.
CO2 is meant to be exhaulted completely otherwise sickness "respiratory acidosis" will be the result.
Reinhaling most carbon dioxide is foolish thing to do as body fights 24/7 to get rid of it.
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Respiratory acidosis results from a build-up of carbon dioxide in the blood

Proper use, dr Fauci

hero member
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Maintain Social Distance, Stay safe.
August 14, 2020, 09:46:44 AM
The positive points about masks seem to be that they work under the right conditions, if they are the right masks. But the right conditions exist only when proper masks are used by professionals who know how to use them correctly.
I have seen a lot of people in our area donot use mask properly, they actually use mask to show that they are using mask. They just want to avoid police. I have also see same types of people in online and print media. They are not aware what is the perfect way of wearing a mask.
legendary
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August 08, 2020, 03:32:08 PM
Please put your mask on, franky1. I think my computer caught a virus from you right through the forum.

 Grin
legendary
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August 08, 2020, 07:03:46 AM
yes idiots dont wear masks properly and keep tugging and pulling at the mask. they keep moving it around and thus any virus on the mask transfers to their hand. and vice versa
and then when they take their mask off and eat a sandwich or rub their face it then gets onto their face

which is why they ask people to wash hands regularly and stop messing with their masks
.

as for badeckers quotes about the thichness of human hair and viruses size
well human hair is courser(thicker) than cotton strand
and cotton thread is actually twisted together multiple strands of thread

so ill just leave this image here to think about

image above is a 'high threat count heavy cotton fabric thats ~70% effective
as you can see each thread is not a single human hair but dozens of strands of thinner strands weaved together and then meshed in a pattern

this below is a knitted scarf that is only 20% effective

without needing to overlay colourful * to represent the virus you can see there are more oppertunities for a virus to get through


but did you also know that by keeping your distance from someone. reduces the amount of particles  which is actually more effective than face coverings.

however if you are in places where you cannot avoid distancing. then a face covering is better than nothing. so long as your using suitable material
(high quality fabric. not a knitted scarf)

..
using some basic math and just going with a number of 125 particles at a 1metre distance example
high quality fabric means only ~36 will get in
wooly scarf means ~100 will get through

but stand at 2 metres and there would only be 12 particles(no mask situation) instad of 125 meaning
high quality fabric only 3-4 will get in
woolly scarf means 10 would get in

but if you are only 6inches from someone mouth(them whispering in your ear) you will have a 2000particle

yep distance actually makes alot of difference too
so respect peoples personal space if your going to be ignorant about face coverings.
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