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legendary
Activity: 3766
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August 01, 2020, 11:40:08 PM
For a moment, please stop fighting each other and check this encouraging piece of news coming from Russia:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-53621708

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Coronavirus: Russia plans mass vaccination campaign in October

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Russian health authorities are preparing to start a mass vaccination campaign against coronavirus in October, the health minister has said. Russian media quoted Mikhail Murashko as saying that doctors and teachers would be the first to receive the vaccine. Reuters, citing anonymous sources, said Russia's first potential vaccine would be approved by regulators this month.

So it looks as if the first COVID 19 vaccine would be out in the market, within the next two months. But the most worrying thing is that the Russians may be selling the vaccine without completing all the necessary clinical trials. I have checked the status of their vaccine here:

https://www.raps.org/news-and-articles/news-articles/2020/3/covid-19-vaccine-tracker
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/science/coronavirus-vaccine-tracker.html

IMO, it looks like the Chinese vaccine (CanSino Biologics, which was approved for limited use last week) would be more safe.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 01, 2020, 07:12:09 PM
idiot continues to be an idiot

Thank you. I don't like calling anybody an idiot.     Grin
legendary
Activity: 4396
Merit: 4755
August 01, 2020, 07:10:54 PM
idiot above continues to be an idiot

he cant even describe what an exosome does or how its created or any detail
he ran out of scripts. so just repeats the stupidity that everything must be an exosome

thats like someone that is colour blind that can only see grey. they will scream forever that the world is grey. even when people inform him the world is not grey but that its his limited view on life limits his understanding of colour
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 01, 2020, 07:08:56 PM
exosomes are not viruses
atleast learn basics

if you think ebola(knotted rope) looks like a exosome your an idiot
if you think corona (spikey ball) looks like an exosome(golfball(empty) or toffee apple(with nutrient attached)) your an idiot

funny part is badecker is the type of idiot that will also say a female ova is also a exosome and then start saying lots of things are exosomes..
without even understanding what an exosome does and doesnt do

last funny part is badecker is weirdly obsessed with advertising only one type of microscope. not realising that there are many types of microscopy. many ways to identify things. but nah. badecker is having some weird brand loyalty and promoting just one. because thats what his conspiracy sites are advertising

When you look at what you call a virus, you are really looking at an exosome. There aren't any viruses.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 4396
Merit: 4755
August 01, 2020, 03:37:45 PM
exosomes are not viruses
atleast learn basics

if you think ebola(knotted rope) looks like a exosome your an idiot
if you think corona (spikey ball) looks like an exosome(golfball(empty) or toffee apple(with nutrient attached)) your an idiot

funny part is badecker is the type of idiot that will also say a female ova is also a exosome and then start saying lots of things are exosomes..
without even understanding what an exosome does and doesnt do

last funny part is badecker is weirdly obsessed with advertising only one type of microscope. not realising that there are many types of microscopy. many ways to identify things. but nah. badecker is having some weird brand loyalty and promoting just one. because thats what his conspiracy sites are advertising
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 01, 2020, 02:09:11 PM
its all been said before
the links actually show the processes and lab equipment, and methodology. they even link picture of the test specimens they tested it on afterwards

your inability to remember and your inability to click the links and check the references is your problem
and before you even start. because i know your routine already
it passed koch
it passed rivers
and to pre-empt your routine of moving goalpost
it passed bell

Then you agree that they are exosomes.     Cool
legendary
Activity: 4396
Merit: 4755
August 01, 2020, 01:44:52 PM
its all been said before
the links actually show the processes and lab equipment, and methodology. they even link picture of the test specimens they tested it on afterwards

your inability to remember and your inability to click the links and check the references is your problem
and before you even start. because i know your routine already
it passed koch
it passed rivers
and to pre-empt your routine of moving goalpost
it passed bell
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 01, 2020, 08:14:42 AM
badecker sounds like a eugenics guy
here is badeckers thought process
"avoid hospitals"
"drink bleach"
"get a gun and be prepared to fight"
"lick random people to get sickness in huge viral loads"
"drink more bleach"
"join the army and get shot"

seems badecker wants people to die

Oh, you're just jealous. You finally realized that people can out-think you, and you are simply upset with me, because I was the one who proved it to you.

Cool

well i called you an idiot that was telling people stupid things that would risk their health months ago.
your memory makes you think what i just said is new.
i called you out months ago. but atleast finally we can see you admitting your intentions

When you look back at it, you called me out on things you were unable to explain, yourself. All you had was a few links, and no way to explain what your links meant, or even why you posted some of the links. We're all still waiting for you to find something like Rivers' revision of Koch's Postulates in the cases you offered as proof.

Get with it, F-1. You are trying to remain in the old medical, rather than learning the new. Step out of your fanciful world into reality.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 4396
Merit: 4755
August 01, 2020, 08:05:14 AM
badecker sounds like a eugenics guy
here is badeckers thought process
"avoid hospitals"
"drink bleach"
"get a gun and be prepared to fight"
"lick random people to get sickness in huge viral loads"
"drink more bleach"
"join the army and get shot"

seems badecker wants people to die

Oh, you're just jealous. You finally realized that people can out-think you, and you are simply upset with me, because I was the one who proved it to you.

Cool

well i called you an idiot that was telling people stupid things that would risk their health months ago.
your memory makes you think what i just said is new.
i called you out months ago. but atleast finally we can see you admitting your intentions
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 01, 2020, 08:03:08 AM
badecker sounds like a eugenics guy
here is badeckers thought process
"avoid hospitals"
"drink bleach"
"get a gun and be prepared to fight"
"lick random people to get sickness in huge viral loads"
"drink more bleach"
"join the army and get shot"

seems badecker wants people to die

Oh, you're just jealous. You finally realized that people can out-think you, and you are simply upset with me, because I was the one who proved it to you.

Cool
legendary
Activity: 4396
Merit: 4755
August 01, 2020, 07:59:43 AM
badecker sounds like a eugenics guy
here is badeckers thought process
"avoid hospitals"
"drink bleach"
"get a gun and be prepared to fight"
"lick random people to get sickness in huge viral loads"
"drink more bleach"
"join the army and get shot"

seems badecker wants people to die
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
August 01, 2020, 06:35:14 AM
but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.
It is normal observation as it is almost 1 year passed. Now the virus is not normal but people taking it as normally and it will be took as a general flu soon. That doesn't mean that the virus is dead, it's just the thinking of people that the situation is under control.
I think the word under control is not good to say because a lot of people are still been infected with the virus. Actually, the broken system in my country got exposed because of the covid 19. The government are not giving f*ck in the medical industry before and it is the reason why many people right now in mt country are still suffering. We are now in the new normal where wearing face masks are required in public places in order to prevent the increase of infection of the covid19.

You know a little story, once upon a time it was a duty to join military fighting the "enemy", deserters where far and few, later the real heroes.
The smart always triumph the stupid, its a natural law.

Good idea, the military requirement. But the military needs to watch how it is being manipulated by politicians into non-essential wars. And often it is military leaders who like the war, so that they can be enriched by the spoils when they win.

The leaders in the CV pandemic are the politicians and military leaders who are pushing us all into being soldiers in their war, which is designed to conquer us all.

In other words, they are using us to conquer ourselves through our fears in this fake pandemic.

Cool
sr. member
Activity: 1190
Merit: 305
Pro financial, medical liberty
August 01, 2020, 01:07:47 AM
but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.
It is normal observation as it is almost 1 year passed. Now the virus is not normal but people taking it as normally and it will be took as a general flu soon. That doesn't mean that the virus is dead, it's just the thinking of people that the situation is under control.
I think the word under control is not good to say because a lot of people are still been infected with the virus. Actually, the broken system in my country got exposed because of the covid 19. The government are not giving f*ck in the medical industry before and it is the reason why many people right now in mt country are still suffering. We are now in the new normal where wearing face masks are required in public places in order to prevent the increase of infection of the covid19.

You know a little story, once upon a time it was a duty to join military fighting the "enemy", deserters where far and few, later the real heroes.
The smart always triumph the stupid, its a natural law.
sr. member
Activity: 924
Merit: 275
July 31, 2020, 09:39:13 PM
but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.
It is normal observation as it is almost 1 year passed. Now the virus is not normal but people taking it as normally and it will be took as a general flu soon. That doesn't mean that the virus is dead, it's just the thinking of people that the situation is under control.
I think the word under control is not good to say because a lot of people are still been infected with the virus. Actually, the broken system in my country got exposed because of the covid 19. The government are not giving f*ck in the medical industry before and it is the reason why many people right now in mt country are still suffering. We are now in the new normal where wearing face masks are required in public places in order to prevent the increase of infection of the covid19.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
July 31, 2020, 01:07:58 PM
but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.
It is normal observation as it is almost 1 year passed. Now the virus is not normal but people taking it as normally and it will be took as a general flu soon. That doesn't mean that the virus is dead, it's just the thinking of people that the situation is under control.

Yabut. There is an exosome that is exactly like the Covid virus... so much so that they can't tell the difference between the two.

Cool
hero member
Activity: 1456
Merit: 624
Maintain Social Distance, Stay safe.
July 31, 2020, 11:44:53 AM
but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.
It is normal observation as it is almost 1 year passed. Now the virus is not normal but people taking it as normally and it will be took as a general flu soon. That doesn't mean that the virus is dead, it's just the thinking of people that the situation is under control.
newbie
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Merit: 0
July 31, 2020, 11:30:23 AM
Not really.  I'm not saying the disease is not deadly but its definitely of less concern than something that is already highly infectious, deadly and fully spread like the flu.   Its just about sensationalism in the media and fear-mongering that appeals to xenophobic bias against China.   There are new strains of the flu every year that are much more deadly and aren't covered by the flu vaccine but they hardly get any coverage.  Like, how many of the people criticizing Chinese for eating "strange" animals are actually vegan?  How many of them know or care about the amounts of antibiotic resistant bacteria that come off of animal farms into the human population and kills thousands each year?
legendary
Activity: 4396
Merit: 4755
July 31, 2020, 04:47:48 AM
"‘The biggest fraud: Part 1 – The hocus “science” behind lockdown’"

https://blog.argonautcapital.co.uk/articles/2020/07/27/the-biggest-fraud-part-1-the-hocus-science-behind-lockdown/

the truth is actually explained in the article.. but
the writer only includes parts of these truths and avoids other true facts.. ..by not talking about certain things or makes differing opinion to then make them into lies . just so he can then set his own narative

you can tell he tries too hard in one direction and avoids the real direction of facts.
he tries to make himself from the start sound like he is smart by quoting the dictionary. and then including tipbits of facts.


EG he uses the diamond princess ~700 testing positive and uses the 6-14 deaths to suggest only 1-2%
which in of itself would be the 650k-1.3m of a 65m population
but then rambles down a hole digging narrative of saying thats because they were old
to suggest the number should be way below 500k

what this article writer does not mention. is that its not a situation of everyone is perfectly fine. and then just drop dead instantly.. only if old.
what the article writer avoids is the symptomatic people. he hints that 50% were asymptomatic. but he doesnt talk about the obvious other 50% that had symptoms
its funny how he avoided the symptomatic people.. very funny and very obvious of his avoidance tactic

emphasis again. people dont just drop dead. some few extra percent would need hospital care and would actually survive with hospital care. but wouldnt without hospital care
and the article writer avoids talking about the hospital care requiring people

the article writer just wants to present a narative that its an age thing and how the 1-2% death rate should be lower if you dilute in a more younger age range into the mix. but still not then realising that if the extra few who dont get hospital care. more would die thus bringing the numbers up
..
as for the USS roesevelt
the article writer pretends there was no isolation.. yet the ship did actually isolate its crew
infact they isolated so well that the managed to only have 20% infected. even with daily testing of all 5000 crew. they ultimately only had 1000 that got it. because they isolated


after looking at the number 60% testing positive were asymptomatic... meaning. by simple math 40% DID have symptoms
meaning that if the idiot writing the article includes the people with symptoms. and understands that without some form of care for the ones with severe symptoms. those with severe symptoms could become worse.
heck even if a quarter of those with symptoms(10% of infected) had serious symptoms and didnt get any care. the deaath rate would be higher

the actual facts about the uss roosevelt has documented evidence that those with severe symptoms were evacuated to a hospital where even just in the first week of testing had dozens taken to hospital
and the rest of the crew were separately quarantined in their barracks and slowly taken off ship to quarantine in isolation


so if we take the 1 out of 1000  that died even when evacuated even with intensive care. and then you think about the ones that went to intensive care and survived.. but put them into a scenario where they were not taken to intensive care.. guess what. they would have died too.
meaning the numbers would have been higher without hospital care for those that needed hospital care

..
the article writer then is very ignorant about the differences between the sweden vs NY studies
the article writer does not understand that the two models are different because
from january-march NY was doing repatriation flights and no avoidance measures at all.. so the spike was high and uncontrolled for 2 months
heck NY got its 50thcase/5thdeath per mill in march. sweden didnt until april
yet sweden implemented its social distancing well before april(before their 50:5 case:death per mill
yet NY didnt do crap until after their 50:5case:death per mill
so NY had an ever increasing spike for a few more weeks before people got used to the lockdown. thus had a mega problem

sweden didnt do any large scale repatiation flights. so its first known cases came later and in lower numbers. but they implemented avoidance controls before NY meaning their swedens spike was lower and slower.
they actually got their population to get used to respecting personal space faster than NY thus able to keep the numbers under control.
NY didnt so had to resort to drastic action to full lockdown to prevent the numbers climbing

i do find it funny how this article writer is ignorant of so many facts and avoids even simple maths. and ofcourse avoids any info that actually explains reality. and only uses tip-bits of stuff to then suggest something else by avoiding the whole context
legendary
Activity: 4690
Merit: 1276
July 30, 2020, 11:31:55 PM
From the prestigious British Medical Journal:  https://www.bmj.com/content/369/bmj.m1470/rr-1

Translation:  If you come up negative on the throat swab you will probably be sent to the rectal swab line.

Since 'we' (society) value our kids so much, it seems likely that kids will be scheduled for frequent rectal swabs.  A couple times per day.  Especially if they have been removed from a family by the state on advise of the WHO executive director (and former Gates employee) Dr. Michael Ryan.  Only people who are 'anti-science' would reject 'the science'.

Bend over kiddies; Dr. Feelgood need to tickle you again:



Oh ya, and of course we need a lot of dogs sniffing people all the time 'because covid'(tm).

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SeF5_bV03jA

They will keep ramping this thing up until they find out what 'we' will tolerate.

legendary
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First Exclusion Ever
July 30, 2020, 01:40:59 AM
"‘The biggest fraud: Part 1 – The hocus “science” behind lockdown’"

https://blog.argonautcapital.co.uk/articles/2020/07/27/the-biggest-fraud-part-1-the-hocus-science-behind-lockdown/
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