Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 52. (Read 29937 times)

The only reason NYC is the so-called epicenter is, Cuomo messes with everything, including statistics. You can tell by the way that he sent the so-called Covid positive old folks to nursing homes to infect other people, and then wouldn't even let nursing home staff wear PPE.

All you are doing is playing with numbers that you are trying to make everybody believe are real. Take a few steps back and look at the whole picture. There aren't any more total deaths than average for this time of year.

68% from one clinic (working class)
56% from another nearby clinic (working class)

13% from a hospital in more affluent white neighbourhood

overall a city wide test of over 300k people shown the average of cross classes was 26%
and thats in NY the epicentre of US infections
other neighbouring states would have far lower numbers than NY, midstates being the lowest

so dont be stupid all the guys linked above as quotes of quotes as being a sign that overall spread is over 60% .. where the actual number overall america is under 10%

EG even neighbouring pensylvania is 2x less than NY
and for instance kentucky is 4x less than NY

EG affluent area's of PA may only be 6-7% spread
affluent area's of kentucky may be only 3% spread

remember NY got cases in january february so their spread before the march lockdown got wild
midstates didnt get cases till feb/march meaning their spread got cut short early thus less wild spread

From day one the 'scientists' and 'public health' bureaucrats have bent over backward to NOT do statistically appropriate randomized sample studies needed to know infection rates which are the first and the easiest things which should have been done.  The result of what studies have been done have been buried.  Gee, I wonder why???

Now we see why.  A person who had the SARS-CoV-2 this years seasonal cold will have antibodies for at least a few years after they recover.  They are calling any discovery of antibodies a 'new case' no matter when they might have fought off the infection (which often happens with a person not even knowing it.)  Since so many people have had it, they can ramp up the '2nd wave' at will just by testing people at random.

They are also calling people who have antibodies, meaning they got exposed to this years common cold in the past, a 'covid-19 death' even if they died in a motorcycle accident.  Thus, they can jack the 'mortality of covid-19' to just about any number they like.

Unbelievable that they can get away with this scamery.  It blows my mind every day.  I went around for 50 years without understanding what fucking retards I was surrounded by.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4TztuIZx18

The top reasons I see for it are:
1. As you said, the Trump re-election;
2. Make money in general;
3. Overcome the free USA; the USA is really the only reason why governments haven't take all guns away from their people;
4. Find out where the peoples' state-of-faith in government is;

Worldwide corruption in and between governments and all kinds of military/law-enforcement is extremely great.

Anybody who believes the International Space Station videos where the women have springy hair that is ultra-max hair sprayed in place... can be taught to believe just about anything...ANYTHING.

They found similar findings in NY where certain communities had antibodies that reached 60 percent or more of the population they sampled.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/07/10/health/queens-antibody-testing-coronavirus/index.html

The sample they chose wasn't a randomized sample so you can't make any inferences about the population statistically speaking, but it goes to show you that way more people have had coronavirus than imagined, which is a good thing. The more people that have had it means the case fatality rate is lower than what's predicted. It also means herd immunity for local communities.

I hope not. Our health is very important that's why we have to really take care of it. Our first line of defense is our strong immune system. So whether the sickness is just brought by the change in weather or from the corona virus, our system would fight it to make us feel better and not to make us feel worse.

@BADecker this is happening in many places as hospitals are trying to monetise this pandemic, but considering that Florida is a Republican state it’s quiet possible that someone is intentionally trying to cause fear, and make sure that the state remains under lockdown and doesn’t open up soon.

In my personal opinion this is done solely to cause harm to Trump re-election bid because if more states continues to remain under lockdown then it’s become more difficult for Trump to revive the US economy, but I won’t be naming anyone yet as there’s not substantial proof to accuse anyone at this stage.

So you think that just because we made all kinds of advances, that somebody has applied Rivers' updating of Koch's postulates correctly, and come up with viruses. Lol.

You can't even show the details of one report that shows this.

funny part is that you grab data of one process in 1950's and then think that no new processes have occured in that time or after. and think that its the only thing that was ever done(facepalm)

there are many ways to identify and isolate a virus.
guess your forgetting koch,rivers,bell tests that are then used to prove it.

its weird how you think the only way things are done is by spinning a fluid in a centrifuge and then extracting the layers of different grades of fluid and trying to see which ones cause the symptomology your looking for
i guess you missed the part where it said many things were done in other experiments
sorry but no.
there is also chemical extraction, heat extraction and other methods

"One part is used to determine the size, type and composition of the nucleic acid; in a separate procedure, the other part is used to determine the amount, size and morphology of the proteins of the phages. Since the 1970s, these tests have been simple standard techniques that are learned by every biology student in their first semesters."

but your article writer doesnt talk about the 'other procedures' but instead backtracks to the 1950's centrifugal 'filtration' process and pretends thats all that is being done

as for the article writer wanting to umbrella term it as "phages" is the article writer being subtly ignorant of the known differences between what bacteria. viruses, particles, poisons, spores are
by him just claiming they are just phages is him trying to hide the fact that scientists can actually identify different characterises.

then he just does to wonderland(falls down a hole telling a story of fantasy thats nothing like reality)
he seems to be the type of person that would call a plane, train, bike as also being a car. because a car is a type of vehicle and bikes and trains are vehicles too so then he feels a bike or train must also be a car

yet modern humans with brains can easily see and know that a bike is not a car

One guy knowing all about social distancing, how to wear mask correctly

This is a forum. You actually could show how and where anybody did any work according to any process. But since you don't... okay. It's a forum.

BTW. The Microsphere Nanoscope is starting to prove a whole lot of our assumed virus process understanding to be wrong. Now we can actually watch the viruses live and move, and we are finding that they aren't exactly what we thought they were, and why they are doing the work they do.

Consider the article "Dismantling The Viral Theory" at https://www.drrobertyoung.com/post/dismantling-the-viral-theory.

they know there is a virus they identified it and found that its of the corona family and not the ebola or other family.
ive already corrected you many times in this topic. can you atleast try reading more and being ignorant less

they passed the koch, rivers and bell tests. you have been told this
they have studied it in many hospitals with different methodology with many patients. and all came with a common demominator thus ruling out errors of equipment facility, doctor
they then tested it on healthy specimens and seen multiple specimens of different types become sick because of the virus. and retested those specimens to ensure what the specimens had while sick was the same as what they injected and the same as what was in the original source people they isolated

thus ruling out any other cause
you have been told this
you have been given links that explain it and even explain all the where, how, who, what and when
mice hamsters, snakes and other animals were used. so you cant even try to meander it to sound like they problem was animal type based error

the pathologists are not doing the autopsies.
they were talking about how THEY dont know what the cause of death was because all they are handling is the samples of lung specimens

they did say that there is ways to see what damage the virus does do. but for THEM to declare the cause of death THEY would need to do the autopsy.
they mentioned how if the ICU doctor sees specific symptom onset and the test samples show particular things then the ICU doctor can very easily diagnose it as a cause of death due to covid.

i know you want to make it sound like no one knows. but the question and answer was if a tire repair guy is given a tire. he cannot tell the condition of the car. unless he himself looked at the car and examined the whole car. however other mechanics that get hands on with the whole car are better at diagnosing whats wrong with the car.

It's really about finding out if there IS a virus, or if we have been looking at exosomes all along.

you have to take many things into account.
1. yes its not about changing human DNA
2. yes its about letting the vaccine which is emulating a virus to replicate. but not at the same damaging rate as a wild virus
3. to me the -unmouse- comparison just seems like a simple math problem
if your giving a mouse 10microgram. a ferret 100microgram a monkey 400microgram.. but then a human only 100microgram
well a human should be on 4000micrograms because its obviously 10x more then a monkey..
but giving it only 100 = 2.5% then yea when a monkey shows 10,000, a human would only show a couple hundred.... simple math
so its not really showing how humans are different but that dosage vs biology shows a human wont react as much
4. its about interferon not interleukin
interferons signal many things. it signal the infected cell to die as well as signal to cause inflammation.
because a potential vaccine does not have a damaging viral part its just temporarily using a cells 'factory' to replicate enough to then make to then trigger mass antibody production and keep 'memory' antibodies

in short. instead of a wild virus that has uncontrolled replication and will eventually kill every cell it invades and swamp your body in puss and fluid and inflammation .
this vaccine will temporarily borrow a cell to make controlled speed replication slower than wild virus. to then get your body to react to deal with the virus without cell damage and without inflammation

thus no symptoms

I think it's too early to tell if anyone ever died from any form of Coronavirus. Identification of any form of CV is inconclusive, since the testing for it was never done correctly. This means that Covid might actually exist, even though it probably doesn't. So, we simply don't know if anybody ever died from Coronavirus or not... since it might not even exist.

"No One Has Died From the Coronavirus"
https://greenmedinfo.com/blog/op-ed-no-one-has-died-coronavirus

You know that a new lockdown is coming on October.
That period people will get sick due to flus that occur normally when the weather changes and governments will say that all those people are getting sick with coronavirus... Remember my words..

Friends.  Beware of wild stories about how the new so-called nucleic acid so-called vaccines 'work'.  In particular, be wary of stories about how they are going to 'change your DNA' and 'create a satanic three-strand DNA' and that sort of thing.  These are psychological operations of the Cass Sunstein variety.  The goal is to stand up straw-men which are easy to knock down.

Here's a presentation by the Imperial Collage (and assoc) variety of so-called 'self enhancing RNA' vaccines from a while ago:

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VZHBn-ilVB8

The basic theory of operation does NOT imply integration into the chromasomal DNA with something like CRISPR.  The designer genetic materiel infects one's cells and makes the cell into a virus part factory, but it does not need to integrate into the cell's DNA which resides in the nucleus.  Shouting that this is going to happen, and especially that it is going to happen to germ cells (sperm and eggs) in order to change one's children, is easily 'debunked' whether it happens to be one of the end goals of the designs or not.  So, it will not help.

That said, the presentation itself is, to me, jaw-droppingly alarming in a bunch of ways.  To name a few points:

 - They dropped a section out of the presentation and mentioned the tickling of Luciferase later on without context so it seems plausible that the censored part was associated with that concept.

 - They need to short circuit the 'inate immune system' which one can recognize in conversations about interleukin in order to get things to work _in humans_.  No conversation about why humans have such an un-mouse-like physiology and if turning it off...using MERS derived material interestingly enough...might cause any problems.  (Sharp eyed readers might recall how a lot of cancer treatments and viral issues more generally center around therapies involving interleukin-II and such,)

 - They are hijacking cells in order to get them to produce virus parts, but they have no idea how long the cells may keep cranking these parts out in humans.  That logically implies that they have no idea whether long-term production of the virus parts, or the MERS-associated parts needed to retard the innate immune system, will have negative long term effects.

Anyone who gets this 'vaccine' in the course of the next decade is by definition a trial subject.  The Science Gods at the WHO have already admitted that they have taken over the human immune system via their existing programs, lots of their assumptions have been proven wrong, and have no idea if it is even possible to carry the weight that they have already shouldered.  If anything, the current crop of Engineers seem to be even more clueless, vain, and short-sighted than the ones who've got us into a giant mess already.  I will be doing everything I can think of to be avoiding the new so-called vaccines for both myself and for my family who I am now responsible for.  The evidence is clear that a LOT of the people working on these project also feel responsible for my family...responsible to get rid of them because, you know, 'carbon footprint.'

Did anyone noticed this news:

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/city/delhi/delhis-sero-prevalence-study-finds-23-48-per-cent-people-affected-by-covid-19/articleshow/77085162.cms


A study which was conducted in the Indian capital concluded that almost one-fourth of the population was "exposed" to the Coronavirus, as evident from the prevalence of IgG antibodies. That means that somewhere between 4 and 5 million people were "exposed". As per the officials, the number of Coronavirus patients stand at ~125,000 for Delhi.

Now I am confused about these two figures. As per the authorities, 125,000 are infected and some 4-5 million are exposed.

What is the difference between these two?

Does that mean that virus entered the bodies of 4-5 million people, and out of them only 125,000 got the disease?