Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 58. (Read 29937 times)

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Here is the thing about masks, although they will slow the spread of the Wuhan Coronavirus, they will not actually stop anyone from getting the virus over the long run.

Hospitals have the ability to care for patients and the Military can provide surge hospital capacity if necessary. Currently, there are many people in this hospital who have the virus but are in the hospital because they have delayed seeking care for other health issues.

Back to my original point, if the virus spreads more quickly, the US will reach herd immunity more quickly, and the virus will no longer be a problem. If there are sharply lower numbers of cases 2-3 months before the election, the political cover to have widespread mail-in voting will be removed. Widespread mail-in voting will result in widespread voter fraud (look at what happened in NJ recently where ~20% of mailed ballots were fraudulent), and it is not possible to have a free and fair election with widespread mail-in voting.

I am not sure if we can get herd immunity in ~2 months. We probably have about 6% of the US population infected as of today, and we need somewhere between 40 and 70% of the population to be immune (via having recovered or receiving a vaccine) to outright stop the spread. Currently, mostly young people are getting the virus, who are dying at much lower rates than when NY governor Cuomo was sending infected people into nursing homes to maximize the number of vulnerable people getting infected, and are having hospital stays at around half as older people.

The resistance to finding out how many people have been infected, which is the most basic bit of data which would be useful for rational decision making, persists.  Estimates based on the information available puts the number at about 10% in the U.S..

A further percentage of the population don't seem to be able to get the virus at all.  Their bodies seem to kill it off without leaving any traces at all.  Estimates are that this is over half the population.  Seems possible that this is because having had a similar coronavirus within the last few years confers innate immunity in people with healthy immune systems (e.g., so-called 'anti-vaxxers'.)

Anyway, the science needed to make these kinds of logical policy is being actively thwarted and the data to do so is being actively corrupted.  There's certainly a reason for doing so.  With 10% or so of the population having had this common cold, the 'scientists' and the CDC can create a '2nd wave' any time they want just by testing a random selection of people for antibodies.  Or they can do RT-PCR and set whatever cycles as they need to get a positive result.  That's how you can get a positive result from a goat or a papaya.

"Still Confused About Masks? Here’s the Science Behind How Face Masks Prevent Coronavirus"

https://www.ucsf.edu/news/2020/06/417906/still-confused-about-masks-heres-science-behind-how-face-masks-prevent




https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/prevent-getting-sick/social-distancing.html#:~:text=COVID%2D19%20spreads%20mainly,noses%20of%20people%20nearby.

Well, we all stayed home for two months and "flattened the curve", and now that's over and the hospitals didn't get overwhelmed.

And now it's time for the rest of us to get a mild or moderate or severe case of that flu and we know the hospitals will not be overwhelmed.

Right?

So what's the point of continuing the masks and distancing?

corona outbreak is the virus that is sending people to hospitals sick

badecker you mean the government advised lockdown is the coup
i guess you can tell the difference

oh and now lockdown has eased the cases in your area are rising again.. hmm
i guess your still ignoring the reality of your home state and believing cultish influencers on youtube

i bet 7 years ago you believed their scare that muslim terrorists were in your streets and you had to buy some guns. yet the reality of arizona is that no muslim terrorist attacks occured

next time before auto-believing whats seen in a youtube video or cult website. check out whats happening in your own home state. FOR ONCE

"Coronavirus outbreak" is simply a term given to a government coup against the freedoms of the people.

Check out the link to see the kinds of demon creatures who are tormenting us.

If they and their ilk end up dying in a medieval fashion I cannot say that I would feel to badly about it.  Their plans for us are similar and they started it.  Their leaders have decided that it was time to try the gambit.  To 'shoot the moon' as it were.  And these demons are following them along and going all in.  They really have no leg to stand on if they make a mis-step and are forced to pay the price.

Listen to this...


IS SOCIAL DISTANCING WORKING?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M4dooalPHg0


... and this...


SOCIAL DISTANCING IS UNSCIENTIFIC

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YXqCIcCZe7Q


... and then call us back.

Social distancing works..

You may want to avoid reopened restaurants after reading this new JP Morgan report on coronavirus outbreaks

Link - Fortune.com

The Covid epicenter in Calivornia is the governor's office; same said rabies epicenter. They're taking turns biting each other in the small of the back, because they can't reach their own themselves.


LA Orders Closure Of Beaches For July 4th Weekend, Sheriff Refuses To Enforce Ban

More evidence this outbreak is about destroying and controlling the economy than protecting anyone...

"Meijer Stops Accepting Cash As Nationwide Coin Shortage Erupts"

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/meijer-supermarkets-stop-accepting-cash-nationwide-coin-shortage-erupts

Many predicted these events would be used to try to end cash transactions, this seems to be a simple backdoor way to acheive this goal by restricting coinage.

alot of people have been talking about how sweden has been a success
yet during the May 'oh lok at sweden they can play golf' cases were under 900 a day
first week of june over 1k
last week over 1.5k

swedens case are on the rise.. not falling

if people think that its all over and business as usual. sorry your in for a shock.
cases will rise and restrictions will have to be tightened

they just hope that they can slow the rise long enough to get a good amount of economy flowing for 4-8 months on small relaxations... instead of just 2-3 months on full release/no restriction

its all about trying to get the money circulating back into government treasury.
because the government treasury know if no one spends this year. then no one pays tax when the financial year ends next year. so next year will hurt them.

so they are letting a few more people get sick and ok to let hospitals fill up a bit more. as long as the money flows.
but when numbers get to near the high 90's% of hospital capacity within 2 week estimate. they will have to tighten restrictions again

..
oh and as for government blame.
yea they want to blame the next lockdown on the upcoming autumn/winter weather.
but do expect another tightening of restrictions

during this pandemic it seems that all countries are doing some innovation and seeing what other countries have done in dealing with the pandemic. trying to learn whether the actions taken by other countries are in accordance with what they want to be applied in their own country.

because each country's treatment is certainly very different and can not be done what other countries have done will certainly be able to apply to other countries. because culture and greography certainly make that difference.

like in my country never do a "lockdown" because if this is done then many people will have a direct impact which might even add to their own complexity. by not doing "lockdown" but reducing activities that are not related to general activities, must be at home.

transport activities are reduced may carry half of the available capacity, wearing masks must be done and may only buy food to take home. those dealing with the crowd are closed like malls and only the market can engage in strict protocols.

state assistance for those who have a direct impact by providing living needs and other assistance continues to be disbursed so that the distress can be helped. with no "lockdown" can also help from the excess to the needy can be done directly.

in an area that has been decreasing and decreasing the sick, then economic life may run with a very strict system applied. so people can work and receive wages so they can support their families.
all can change in view of the situation, if the health protocol does not work well;
- wearing a mask
- Always wash your hands after handling anything when outside.
-not gather and must be at least 1.5 meters apart from each other.
an evaluation and closing of activities will be held.

what i found very interesting lately is the change of attitudes of blame for the virus
(well government mostly always blamed someone else. but now they changing who should be blamed)

we all know that while china closed its flights down. UK/US/Europe stil kept their flights open and grabbed people in 'repatriation flights' thus the onus of bringing it into other countries is on the countries that done their repatriation flights. yet governments dont want to take responsibility for their actions
..
it would have been cheaper to just give the 'patriots' upto $1m each to stay in china and just wait it out.

however, the government did try to take responsibilty for the care of citizens and the healthcare systems first and let economy come later.. by doing the lockdown to curb the spread.
lockdown obviously curbed the spike by preventing the spread by not allowing people to mingle.
but that is ofcourse just temporary

now governments are switching from care to cash mindset
they want to open up border, allow flights without any quarantine policy. (health risk but economic benefit). and suddenly now governments want to remove their responsibility of caring for peoples health and make it peoples responsibility to not get sick.
EG saying its ok to get on a plane in a sealed cylinder of hundreds of people inhaling the same circulated air.
but then make it the peoples responsibility to not mingle. thus if they get on a plane. its their fault
all while telling them they need to start mingling 'for economic reasons'

i understand that people should take responsibility for their actions. i understand many aspects of this.
but whats now happening is that if you get sick and then pass that sickness to someone else. its becoming a factor that you will be blamed for that other persons sickness.
no requests for planes to retrofit new filters/fresh oxygen supply. just get people onboard and blame them for getting onboard
we have already started seeing it happen. when people just cough in the direction of a police officer or retail store worker. that simple cough is treated as a crime.
cough directly in the direction of a air stewardess and expect action at the gate when the plane lands

vacation insurance policies are now going to not cover symptoms of covid because they treat it as self inflicted and not their responsibility.
this is more about not allowing people the clause to allow for cancelling thier flights. thus kind of forcing them to take the trip and get their value spent.. or lose economically while the flight company keeps funds

seems all of a sudden the caring, responsible government wants to go back to BUSINESS as usual where they no longer care about peoples suffering, economics..
all they want is for the money to come rolling in. for the benefit of the treasuries economics

seems no lessons have been learned over the last 4 months. and its just the same old government as we seen pre-covid

its actually false negatives not false positives...

this is not new. infact it was mentioned to you ages ago and has been public policy for months.

its called the incubation period.
if you came into contact with someone..
its useless to do the test the following hour. because the virus has not really taken up home in your system to be measurable
after about 2-3 days its then possible to get a good indicator.
but the best indicator is those showing symptoms because they are really riddled with the stuff in thier system

this is why even in feb-march UK was happily and publicly telling people to only go for a test if they have symptoms
for three reasons
at the point of symptoms then the virus has incubated enough
whether having the test or not would not have stopped the virus.. the test is not treatment
(having a test 2 days earlier would not have cured it to avoid symptoms)
if someone is sick and worried if its covid or another cause for symptoms. knowing for sure whats the cause is helpful to the person and doctors later to know how serious to react to it

..
but again.
taking a test at day 1or 2 or 3 or 4 does not change if the person has it or not. does not cure it or not. it just helps to inform those involved whats causing their symptoms

The current strategy reminds me of what they did in airports after 9/11. Not only did they funnel millions of dollars to their cronies via the sale of cancer scanners, they implemented a ball fondling regime. This was not only security theater proven to be totally ineffective at preventing contraband from entering airports, it is a form of trauma based conditioning of the general population.

To force people to stand and watch as their children and family get their genitals violated by random authority figures is designed as an incremental training mechanism to teach people to submit to authority and fear unquestioningly. By making it a violation of your body and the bodies of your loved ones, and submit to it willingly, you have psychological skin in the game. If course this teaches people to submit to fear, be it real, unlikely, manufactured or otherwise.

To admit it is a fraud designed to control you is to admit you allowed yourself to be deceived, and allowed your family and yourself to be violated under those false pretenses by those perceived to be authority figures. Of course this is designed to predispose everyone to allow this again in the future, it makes it easier for it to go even further. What is happening now is people are being slowly conditioned to not only accept a decreased quality of life, but more tracking, restricted movement, violation of bodily autonomy, and increasing authoritarian control over the general population.

 Everyone has this concept in their brains that there has to be some vast conspiracy to happen, but the truth is the machine has no head, and this is simply the detritus of human civilization that forms any time our rights, autonomy, and humanity are not preciously guarded. If history ever writes about this time, it will be told as the beginning of what lead us into more suffering than has been experienced in generations. What comes next if this is not resisted is a cost greater than can be imagined. The government doesn't care about you. Corporations don't care about you. You are a crop being prepared for harvest. Look over your shoulder for the sickle.

How ridiculous. Now they are finding out that if they don't do the Covid swab tests, at just the right time, the tests will show people to be negative even though they have symptoms. Does the medical really even know what they are talking about?


Being tested for coronavirus too early may lead to false positives, warn researchers

Remember "flatten the curve?" That's over. We did that. What did "flatten the curve" mean?

To spread the infections out over an extended time period so as to not overwhelm hospital capacity.

We're now in the latter part of the game, when everyone may get the virus.

That's reality. Reality is not COVID-THEATER.

Wouldn't this come under privacy laws, and the right to travel?