Topic: Coronavirus Outbreak - page 53. (Read 29937 times)

Did he get plastic or glass shrapnel in his drink?     

How to deal with Corona Virus
https://youtu.be/FIuHRgPCeLk
Just disappeared, no more virus 

Today July 21 I am reading this topic posted last January 23. During that time it was at the investigation but now after 6 months it is alreadyl the whole world trying to beat this invisible deadly thing. The world is facing this virus. There are high number of deaths in every country. Some said it is already at their second wave like the China.

This might be a good idea depending on the school. I didn't think about something like this. I'm wondering how this would work in public schools that might be overcrowded. Most schools tend to be separated by age because the content is delivered by your grade level so keeping separate rooms might be problematic. Schools tend to be germ factories for that matter too so there might not even be midway solution of kids who have vulnerable parents. You either go to school or just stay home because mitigating risk while being at school is tough.


The UK isn't seeing evidence that these schools are acting as transmission vectors though. Nearly all European countries have their schools open and Sweden never shut down their schools. Very little evidence out there that large spikes of coronavirus are originating from schools. And these countries are small enough to where contact tracing is possible, unlike large cities in the U.S.



Like I said, there are risks associated with opening schools but there are ways to mitigate the risk. Create an asynchronous online option for children that need to do online schooling because of being in a household of vulnerable adults. Keep older teachers at home and give them the ability to skype/zoom into the classroom to deliver the material and have young teachers or mentors in the classrooms to proctor and monitor.

Look at the risks at not having schools open. You have large gaps in education which will affect minority students who live in low income households disproportionately than anyone else. You're depriving kids of social interaction. With teenagers, this leads to depression and social isolation. With young elementary aged school children, you take away their ability for social learning and this surely has an effect on social development. In addition, there are parents who need to attend work who rely on school for day care for their children. No school means some parents can't work.

You can't win either way because of risks associated on both sides of the issue. But given the fact that coronavirus isn't dangerous to kids, it's in the best interest of children to keep schools open.

In Jan/Feb/Mar timeframe the script was that 'the virus' had a mortality in the 4% to 6% range and we just needed to be careful for a few weeks in order to 'flatten the curve' so as not to temporarily swamp the medical system.

Now the reality is that the mortality is a tiny fraction of one percent, and even then only if you label a motorcycle accident death a 'covid-19' as long as the known flawed tests of the corpse which test for nothing describable come up 'positive' for 'covid-19' when you pay the lab enough money to achieve a positive result.

The 'script' is now, half a year later, that we all have to wear masks and 'social distance' until at the very least for the foreseeable future until a vaccine funded by obvious eugenicist Bill Gates' vaccine has been uptaken by his choice of percentages of the population.  And, of course, the 'great reset', as scripted the the World Economic Forum [board members of the world's largest corporations and various royal family members], will dictate the function of the future of human society.

This 'script' was not difficult to predict.  Many of us came very close.  We where hoping that it would not go so smoothly for 'them', but as they say, 'it is what it is.'  We will probably 'move forward' as two distinct classes of people with respect to understanding the aforementioned observations.  It's probably past time to decide in which catagory to be.

Beyond that, there are people in the 'understand accurately' group who are known as 'useful idiots.'  They choose a the 'dark side' accidentally because the bought all the bullshit about how these are 'necessary birth-pangs' for a better world and all that garbage.  The flip-side here would be people who understand the event as a standard faire engineered 'turning' implemented by a certain class of people for their own benefit.  The 'useful idiot' class will not see their 'utopian world' emerge because they will be lined up along the wall and shot just as Bezmenov describes and for just the reason he describes.

There is nothing new under the sun.  Every totalitarian 'revolution' works in the same basic manner.  It's just that technology changes, and with said changes so too the scope of the effort.  The only difference here is that this time it is 'global' which is just a reflection of humanity's current state of technological progress.

you and kaufmans scripts are both the same outdated stupidity
heck even kaufmans videos are months old. and based on his "research" from january

i kept telling you its now july and yet your stuck with scripts from january

they have identified what sars and covid are
for instance diagnostically they know its not similar symptomology of ebola, but similar to sars
they also used microscopes on samples from the sick patients with this same symptomology and found the common demoninator.
they know it looks like
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they have actually tested it on multiple animals and test subjects.
multiple places around the world have done it using different techniques showing that it all comes with the same results. proving there is no fault with the techniques because they were able to isolate and then infect test specimens with different techniques

they also sequenced thousands and thousands  of peoples infections and seen they all had the common denominator
they have also seen this common demoninator's sequence is of the same family as other SARS. yet nothing like ebola or chickenpox or other things


its funny how even now you are avoiding reading the reports that kaufman say dont exist/were suppressed. yet i have shown that they are public knowledge and easily available. and its actually your ignorance that is suppressing your ability to find them

i know your acting like a toddler trying to have a tantrum so that you can be spoonfed. and then only favouring the people that do spoonfeed you. but atleast try one day to be a big boy and learn to feed yourself with good stuff instead of the sloppy soup your getting spoonfed by idiots

oh that virus will benefit china's youth a lot, freeing them from pension costs of their elederly large generation
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So true. That's to tell you that their is two sides to a disaster. Their is always the side that seems to suffer a lot and the sides that converts the circumstances as an opportunity to Accumulate wealth. Though disasters remains undesirable and very discomforting, ensuring that the masses suffer less, providing and coordinating relieve funds and materials plays a vital role to better tackle the situation.
Stay safe

You are evidence of a flat earther who believes the pandemic propaganda.

Confirmed, you have cirsis and suffer.
Lets hope Bill will provide necessary cure  for you soon to end your suffering.

Now the Coronavirus outbreak have already reached every edge of the world in different nation and many countries have already struggling to control the spread of virus into the extent of what they can do. The infectious disease is really fast spreading that even with the existence of community quarantine, still many people are still getting infected making the number of cases in the world rise up continuously but we can say that it is getting slow as of the moment.

This pandemic have brought both positive and negative effects but what people can see dominantly is the negative effects which brought dead, loss of job, food shortage and other related stuffs. The only thing that can end this is the discovery of the vaccine to totally stop this. It has already been months since this have started and what we all hope is that the discovery of the vaccine with the help and coordination of the World Health Organization and many scientists and laboratories worldwide will soon to discover the vaccine to end up this crisis and suffering.

Wow! Just yesterday when I reported on the Kaufman videos; you still haven't watched them to figure out how to do research, and to see why we don't know what SARS or Covid really are, or if there is any difference between them.

I don't mind that you don't get into the detail of explaining how to do research. This is a forum, not a school. And, we have Andrew Kaufman to do the training. So, why would we need you?

wow even just yesterday i said how when you got proved wrong about koch you instantly then shifted gears and talked about rivers..
and no surprise surprise you repeated it again. even when being told how you failed last time you didnt get the hint.

maybe if you stopped looking at your conspiracy cult websites and actually done the research you will find the reports. heck i did link them last time and again just a couple this time

your blind ignorance does not mean the reports dont exist. your blind ignorance means you wont even read them even when someone links them
so why do you even ask for them when people already have. and why do you deny them.

why even ask for something you dont want.
funny part is the link i just posted both show HOW and WHERE and WHAT and WHEN
but goodluck with your ignorance
but incase you want to deny finding any links even though you quoted the links in my previous post
ill link just a couple again

https://www.immunology.ox.ac.uk/covid-19/literature-digest-old/the-pathogenicity-of-sars-cov-2-in-hace2-transgenic-mice
heres the more detailed notes incase you fear creading the first link to actually find it
https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.02.07.939389v3.full

https://academic.oup.com/cid/article/doi/10.1093/cid/ciaa325/5811871
(i know its hard to click the 'pdf' button to then have to read the full report. but you asked for the report. so go read it). heck they even have supplementary pictures and even videos of the hamsters

oh and to save you another circle should you dare research(but unlikely) modern medicine/diagnostics.. it also passes the bradford hill aswell

Somebody said that the moon was made of green cheese. You say that Koch's Postulates were observed, but you don't say that the more important Rivers' upgrading of Koch's Postulates was observed. Further, like the moon being made of green cheese, you don't show HOW and WHERE any of the reports show the Koch or Rivers process being done.

Talk is talk. The moon is made of green cheese. Koch's Postulates were observed and followed. Prove it. Pull up one of the reports and break it down for us, thereby proving that the report writers even know how to record their scientific processes properly.

Koch's Postulates weren't good enough for what science has found. Look at what Wikipedia says about upgrades to Kock's Postulates:
Notice that these modifications are still controversial. But they are way beyond Koch's Postulates. I'm not trying to say that reports or processes were done incorrectly. That would be like trying to say that the moon was made of green cheese.

What I want is for some knowledgeable person like yourself to open up even one report for us, and show us how step #1, above, was actually done. And then step #2, and the rest of the steps. Why would I ask for this? So that you are shown to not simply be saying that the moon is made of green cheese.

Break it down for us. Where does your selected report say or talk about:
1. The method the scientists used to withdraw the fluid from, say, the lungs of the patient/cadaver?
2. How much fluid was withdrawn?
3. The filtration methods in detail, to show us that they were only getting particles in the size-range of the supposed Covid virus or smaller.
4. The method whereby they separated out the various substances in the filtrate, be it by centrifuge or some other method?
5. Etc., etc... the whole thing.

When a researcher does a process, he is supposed to record the whole thing. He is supposed to write down in his notebook everything that he does. When a page in the notebook is filled, he is supposed to sign it with his signature, or at least initial the page. Pages are supposed to be in numerical order and dated, so that things can't be easily inserted later. If there is paperwork outside of the notebook, the notebook must make reference to this paperwork, and the outside paperwork should be dated, and signed or initialled by the researcher.

The final report that goes up onto the Internet doesn't necessarily have to contain actual copies of the notebook. But it had better list all the info found in the notebook, and the place to go to get copies of the actual notebook. It also should list the name(s) of the researchers that had a hand in every part of the report. But if it doesn't, it should have a source to contact to get the names... for potential clarification of the processes done, and for lawsuit summons or subpoenas.

Please be kind enough to tell us if any of your reports has any of this info. And with your experience, you should be able to go through the processes and show us where and how the postulates that were used are being shown to have been used... in at least one of the reports.



Don't feel badly if you can't do it. Proper postulates were never used, Koch's or otherwise. Coronavirus Truths: Part 2: Koch’s Postulates Not Being Used at All for COVID-19, Why? - https://frankreport.com/2020/07/03/coronavirus-truths-part-2-kochs-postulates-not-being-used-at-all-for-covid-19-why/ - tells us that Koch, himself, permanently abandoned his own #1 postulate when he discovered that asymptomatic carriers existed.

Coronavirus Truths: Part 2: Koch’s Postulates Not Being Used at All for COVID-19, Why? goes on to show links to the fact that Covid has never been identified with certainty:
Search for it. There are loads of other sites that say similar, but there are NO SITES, NOT EVEN ONE, that break down the notebook report of a researcher who used reasonable postulate process properly, to identify Coronavirus.

Or can you find us a site, and show us where the breakdown of postulate usage is therein, and explain it yourself, so that we understand, from an experienced researcher?

Oh, btw. If you can at all prove that the moon is made of green cheese, and if you can explain the proof, you are really great. But be careful. If you happen to prove that Covid hasn't really been identified, you might wind up like this:

FTFY. You were missing the vital BADecker sign-off emote!

funny part is. that you ask for report(singular) because as i said you think there is only one report thats viable..
well i have a spoiler for you. there are many reports(plural)


you got corrected months ago. and again in a topic today where your repeating the same crap i corrected you.
so here is the link as a reminder. as its getting annoying having to correct you about the same thing in multiple forum threads multile times a year about the same thing. all because your memory doesnt last long.

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54818490
summary:
kaufman is using something mentioned in january.
but in february/march many labs around the world fulfilled Koch's postulum.
i told you about it in may.
but you still want to take 1 "kaufman" outdated script. and link HIM 3 times to make it seem like he is many voices(facepalm)
yet you couldnt even be bothered to search post history or even google.

this is also why i keep mentioning your stuck on outdated scripts from january. and keep reminding you that its now july.
seems you keep forgetting debates you already started and lost.

and yes i expect by september you are again going to forget all this. and again pretend no one has shown proof of passing the koch test.
because you are that much of an idiot

going back to school "as normal" has its risks
some countries are putting the 'at risk' students which do have vulnerable parents in a separate class which get special attention and rules. where as other classes with parents that dont care and happy for kids to mingle can go to 'normal' classes

right now schools are open in places like the UK for the ones that do have parents that work and if not at school the kids would suffer/end up being babysat by random people, thus increase the spread risk. so the UK has schools open. but not 'as normal'

but trying to protest that every situation whether its work/social/education should just go back to 'normal' is just being ignorant of the risks

Parents with children that still attend grade school should be fairly young though, meaning they aren't as susceptible to the virus either. If a student lives with their grand parent or if a student's parents have pre-existing conditions that would make them more vulnerable to the virus, that student can opt in for online learning or homeschooling.

Each child's situation is unique which is why closing schools for everyone doesn't seem helpful.

You seem so certain. Where is the report about this being done? Does it include all the protocols as Rivers described them in his update of Koch's Postulates? Show us please.

Certainly there are thousands or hundreds of thousands of doctors and researchers in the world. Nobody can track them all. So, Dr. Kaufman may not have seen the ones that did the research properly. Even though he knows how to search for those published reports, he might have missed the several that did the research correctly.

Show us, and explain as well as Dr. Kaufman did, where the report is, and how the report fits the postulates correctly.

Come on! Show us something of value, okay? Even Spendy is tired of your blabber without anything to back it up, or to even clearly show what you are talking about.

[Thank you, actmyname (https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.54822409). Here it is.]

yes there was.
and thats where you fell flat last time in May when you cicled this same myth your pushing.
they did try it on healthy subjects afterwards and looked at the changes. infact they done it a few times. infact different hospitals in different countries done it thus ruling out your silly idea that it was a bad specimen
 
i know you forgot that you got corrected. but atleast try to keep up with reality.
oh and you do know your 'kaufman' reference is from a doctor hats no longer in the profession is not actually treating people in ICU and his videos are from months and months ago.

we are not living in the january era of 2020 conspiracy. we are in july 2020

Check out the links in the post above this one. There isn't any proven Covid virus, although my personal opinion is that there is such a virus.

Besides, worshiping God has its benefits. After all, God controls nature. Be happy that God is being merciful towards you for a time, so that you might repent and be saved.