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125% of expected deaths roughly matches the 13k reported COVID-19 deaths for the week of 4/11 so no, it's very unlikely to be inflated by any significant amount. More recent weeks are incomplete but trending the same way.

These stats are still inflated no matter how you cut it, because they include "with COVID" deaths as dictated by CDC reporting standards.


"It  is  important  to  remember  that  death  certificate  reporting  may  not  meet  mandatory  reporting  requirements  for  reportable  diseases;  contact  the  local  health  department regarding regulations specific to the jurisdiction.In  cases  where  a  definite  diagnosis  of  COVID–19  cannot  be  made,  but  it  is  suspected  or  likely  (e.g.,  the  circumstances  are  compelling  within  a  reasonable  degree  of  certainty),  it  is  acceptable  to  report  COVID–19  on  a  death  certificate  as  “probable” or “presumed.”"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Did you even read it? Data for the week ending 5/2 and lagging by 1-2 weeks. Other sources, like the Johns Hopkins map, had 44k deaths around April 23 so it all adds up. 10 days from now CDC will show 60k+ like currently shown by real-time (or close to it) sources.

Lol, Buzzfeed, and you have the nerve to criticize my sources.

"Total Deaths   44,016"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

But what does the proof show? Flu? Pneumonia? Heart Disease? Cancer? Diabetes? Does any of it show CV19 at all? Come on! Show some proof. All we hear from you is blabber so far.

the idot again thinks its the 1800's where doctors diagnose by sight alone
there is proof. theres tests, scans, blood tests. lots of diagnostic tools
you have been told this a dozen times

but old badecker will always be out of date with his thoughts
catch up to reality of May 2020.. stop being stuck in the past

You are so silly. Deaths from Covid and deaths from other things don't just happen that way because they are suddenly diagnosed. If that were the case, you could say that people around the world barely die, because doctors don't diagnose the cause of death of millions of people. Those people aren't really dead. No doctor said they were. They only act like they are dead, right?

Covid in January = 0
Covid in April = 8,219

Nobody know that for sure. Doctors could easily have been misdiagnosing or misreporting the numbers for either month. Get some proof already.

the last 2-3 weeks have not yet added complete data as it takes time for the CDC to collate data
what you do need to realise is that the weekly average of flu and pneumonia(other causes) did not go down. meaning that those with other flus are not pushed into the covid numbers.

take the week of the 4/4/2020. and compare it to a week in january before this whole thing started in america

-	COVID-19 Deaths	All Deaths	% of last years	Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19
2/1/2020	0	57,403	97	3,697	0	471	4,168
4/4/2020	8,219	65,140	117	8,839	3,934	436	13,345

 it shows 8k covid(lab confirmed). then lots of other amounts for other stuff which then total 13k
yet public stats like worldometer are not showing as that week having 13k deaths as covid they are showing just ~8k.. heck they are not even showing 65k (all deaths) so that disproves the whole classing all deaths as covid.
heck they are not showing 79k meaning worldometer and public stats are not just throwing random deaths as being covid.
the numbers for the week ending 4-4-2020 tally. and the number of deaths from other flu/pneumonia have not decreased from their average. so that suggests doctors are not mis-classing death causes as covid.
infact some of the just pneumonia cases have increased meaning some may have had covid, and just not tested.
again revealing doctors only class as covid if it tests positive


doctors actually run tests and do scans and diagnose. they dont just play ailment lotto and pick a random cause.

anyway numbers for 4/18/2020, 4/25/2020, 5/2/2020 are not manipulated or revised down. they are just not yet included because data is still coming into the CDC where they double check things. thats why its called provisional

OMG!! TANZANIA GETS POSITIVE VIRUS TESTS ON GOATS AND PAPAYA! ROFLMAO!!

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TpvsrCH6wtQ

Why anyone trusts the W.H.O. for anything except a few laughs is beyond me.

No.

You need to read the words.  The provisional death count of 39910 refers to the certified deaths.  It takes 1-2 weeks to certify a death, which means the number we're seeing today is lagging 1-2 weeks..

It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks.


Reported deaths is currently 68k+.  https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/cases-updates/cases-in-us.html

Stop letting the media fool you.

So less people die than the last years (95%)
39910 Covid-19 deaths and less than 6000 from flu. Good to know a cure for the flu is found, in the 2017/2018  season 80,000 flu deaths


https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/

Data as of May 5, 2020

-	COVID-19 Deaths	All Deaths	% of last years	Pneumonia Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia and COVID-19	Influenza Deaths	Deaths with Pneumonia, Influenza, or COVID-19
Total Deaths	39,910	751,953	95	67,372	17,683	5,910	94,681

Impressive
Alaska   -
Hawaii   -
Montana   -
North Carolina    0
Wyoming   -

New York City   12,178  that is 30.51% of the whole country, Impressive

"No, The CDC Did Not Revise Down The Number Of COVID-19 Deaths"
Several tweets went viral that falsely claimed the CDC had drastically revised down the number of deaths in the US from the coronavirus — but it seems some people didn't read to the end of the page.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/briannasacks/coronavirus-death-toll-cdc-misinformation

With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

I think what happened is that SARS and MERS built up the immune systems of folks. And since Covid is so similar, it was easy for the already-present-immune-antibodies to convert slightly to protect from Covid. Possibly the antibodies for SARS or MERS work directly on Covid without any conversion at all.



EDIT: I think I'll drink the last of the OJ, and pop a gram of vitamin C at the same time.

EDIT 2: Btw, it's Walmart/Chinese vitamin C, so who knows what might be in it?

https://time.com/5798168/coronavirus-mortality-rate/

i think the way forward is to try more local/regional/'hotzone' monitoring. try to control the flow of communtuing log distances to stop other towns bringing it into your town for instance. and only lockdown towns/regions if case numbers rise up quickly

this is not the fault of the virus. but of political actions to not act for weeks/months. and then move to fast too generally even for area's without large cases.

however as seen in sweden by them having a relaxed approach. it actually became an advertisment to bring people from norway an denmark into sweden . so if countries are to do more regional monitoring and react regionally they will definetly have to control the borders

as for your wifes business. what type of business is it. is there a way she can pivot the business to operate slightly differently but still function

my town has under 100 cases and 0 deaths but schools are closed and my wife isnt allowed to run her business and she got shut out from the $10,000 loan even though she was one of the first to apply.  we have to decide by june 1 if we want to renew lease for 24 months. if things dont change will probably just shut it down.

Expect a lot of franky1 blabber to fill these pages, because F-1 is trying to maintain the pandemic status quo, even though there is no reason for the pandemic. So, he will be blabbing his head off just to cover up posts with correct info.

It'll give him higher activity, even if it doesn't give him greater merit.

also. an irish flght company is using the excuse that thir planes air filtration system is not adequate to remove the small viral sized pathogens from the air.. so instead of actually changing the filtration system. they stupidly said there was no point in socially distancing passengers as they will all be breathing everyones air anyway. and started to do flights at full capacity. yep people shoulder to shoulder all because they didnt want to upgrade the filters and didnt want to fly at 30% capacity (1 person per 3 seats)

expect airports/planes to be the next hotzones

edit to reply to below
badecker thinks i give a crap about merit. i give away 50 merit to people i dislike. i dont need or want it.
im not looking to earn merit.
ive been a merit source so get merit even without trying. thats how little i care about it
badecker just angry and does not realise he is not even worthy of any

edit to reply to below without bumping
the idiot below thinks the lockdown IS the pandemic.
he thinks relaxing the lockdown is relaxing the pandemic. he does not realise the lockdown relaxed the pandemic and relaxing the lockdown strengthens the pandemic.
he has no clue and just angry that he doesnt earn merit for posting scripts

yep its a problem. but you have to look at the cause

wendy's didnt prepare its supplychain in january/february/march. it did not give extra budget to allow slaughterhouses to section off area's to allow social distancing.
so of course butchers in the slaughter house started getting sicker with slaughterhouses becoming a hotzone of viral spread.
less staff to cut and mince the meat=less minced meat to send to stores

good old america. yea there was a virus. but if you dont act and do something to prevent it spreading. you cant then blame the virus for the spread

those people will be out of action for a couple months.
lets hope america wise up and actually put some money in to retrofit factories to actually allow social distancing and fit employee's that cant socially distance with proper PPE (not just a cloth mask and gloves) so that they can avoid it rrepeating in waves
but knowing america. they wont
expect many waves of this happening