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legendary
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May 07, 2020, 04:33:01 PM
"Database Of Wuhan's 'Batwoman' Altered 48 Hours Before COVID-19 Samples Ordered Destroyed"
https://www.zerohedge.com/health/database-wuhans-batwoman-altered-48-hours-covid-19-samples-ordered-destroyed

if you do the research you find that the lab compared DATABASE samples of genome sequences
and at first it was labled 'wildlife' which was not very helpful. so they contacted the head doctor of the research for clarification of the source and she said 'bats rats and civits' so they changed the database to be more descriptive.. not less

put it this way
if they changed bats and civits to become 'wildlife' instead(the other way round).. then it would look like a cover up. but this was not the case

also later on independant labs also done tests and studies and confirms that it was bat and civid comparisons to stuff they had in their 'genebanks' (database of genomes)

oh and many idiots take the 'lab close by' and then say that lab techs had their lunch break at the wetmarket..
um no.. its 20 miles away. google maps 'close by' is not the same as a car on a road 'close by'
anything can look close by on a map if you zoom out

how do they know it was from the wetmarket. beause the PATIENTS worked and attended there.
heck even the first case in france wife worked in a fishmonger where the fish is suggested to have originated from wuhan

...

as for the whole other article techshare linked about mikovitz and fauci
firstly she was not working on HIV she was working on chronic fatigue syndrome..
secondly it wasnt even her CFS study it was another doctors. frank ruscetti.
mikovitz was asking for lots of money while ruscetti was away. saying she had his research notes and it was compelling stuff and she deserved some large grant money to continue.
they refused. they also asked her to hand over the notes as she shouldnt have them as she was not the author. she refused.
thus they didnt know the progress of the study to even award any grant extensions..
she got angry and accusatory
she was sacked and then they filed a civil case against her to get the companies property back. which later she gave back
it was later found tht the studies didnt prove anything as no one could re create the process. and then when looking at the 2 slides of the CFS study they found the source test and comparison experiment test result to actually be the very same slide just editing the patient data to make them look different

later jealous from losing her job other doctors were getting new research done and she started to claim those as hers even without actually working there no more.

since then for many years she has been profiting off of the idiots in the conspiracy theory community. selling her stories(books) to them and lending her 'doctor title' to stroke their egos by charging them to endorse their theories.
basically she is only interested in the money not the science fact/actual research
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May 07, 2020, 03:27:08 PM
Nothing will ever make sense with CV19 because its bullshit.  I still think we a have a fake virus and/or fake testing scam  perpetrated by the usual cabal..  When you start to see all the inconsistent bullshit plus the media going out of its way to support that narrative, you have to ask what is real.


We really need to get some proof besides all the media hearsay.

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May 07, 2020, 12:57:05 PM
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She refuses to submit to orders! GET HER!



"YouTube Deletes Viral Video Claiming Dr. Fauci Spewing 'Absolute Propaganda' About COVID-19"

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/youtube-deletes-viral-video-claiming-dr-fauci-spewing-absolute-propaganda-about-coronavirus



"NYC May Lose 900,000 Jobs During Lockdown, Comptroller Says"

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-05-06/nyc-may-lose-900-000-jobs-during-lockdown-comptroller-says?



"Difference in Receptor Usage between Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome (SARS) Coronavirus and SARS-Like Coronavirus of Bat Origin▿"

"Severe acute respiratory syndrome (SARS) is caused by the SARS-associated coronavirus (SARS-CoV), which uses angiotensin-converting enzyme 2 (ACE2) as its receptor for cell entry. A group of SARS-like CoVs (SL-CoVs) has been identified in horseshoe bats. SL-CoVs and SARS-CoVs share identical genome organizations and high sequence identities, with the main exception of the N terminus of the spike protein (S), known to be responsible for receptor binding in CoVs. In this study, we investigated the receptor usage of the SL-CoV S by combining a human immunodeficiency virus-based pseudovirus system with cell lines expressing the ACE2 molecules of human, civet, or horseshoe bat."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2258702/



"Database Of Wuhan's 'Batwoman' Altered 48 Hours Before COVID-19 Samples Ordered Destroyed"

https://www.zerohedge.com/health/database-wuhans-batwoman-altered-48-hours-covid-19-samples-ordered-destroyed



""Biblical" Wave Of Bankruptcies Is About To Flood The US"

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/biblical-wave-bankruptcies-about-flood-us



"Historic Eurodollar Panic: Negative Rates Now Expected As Soon As November"

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/historic-eurodollar-panic-negative-rates-now-expected-soon-november



"China Has Infiltrated US Higher Education To Impede Coronavirus Research"

https://summit.news/2020/05/05/gop-china-has-infiltrated-us-higher-education-to-impede-coronavirus-research/



"Sam Zell: Fallout From Coronavirus Will Be "Worse Than The Great Depression""

https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/sam-zell-economic-fallout-coronavirus-will-be-worse-great-depression



legendary
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May 07, 2020, 12:36:49 PM
We really need to get some proof besides all the media hearsay.

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legendary
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May 07, 2020, 12:24:31 PM
UK media is trying to push a 'trend' that black/indian people are more at risk
yet UKs statistics show

deaths due to covid in NHS England march-april
                           Deaths   Percent   
White                     14781   82.73
Mixed                     130      0.73
Indian                     560      3.13
Bangl'shi & Pa'stani   501      2.80
Chinese                  66      0.37
Black                     1022   5.72
Other ethnic group   806      4.51

sorry but BAME (black and middle eastern) are only ~11%.
media is saying BAME's are ~90% more at risk.. um no . just no
legendary
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May 07, 2020, 11:33:44 AM
To be honest, I have long forgotten that there is now some kind of epidemic. I don't read the news, I live my life and go about my business. I like to live in peace and harmony.

(In any case, I can not miss the important news on which my life depends).

This is not absolutely good.
Now that you don't read the news you are doing good to your mental health as you might have less depression. However, it is good to know what it is going on in society and be able to protect yourself if any virus comes to your relatives.

Protecting self and relatives is an easy thing up to the point where government comes after you. If government wants to shut you down for this fake pandemic, that's when you need to be prepared to protect yourself.

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That's why I started the post with " could be unrelated " .. but a news article isn't exactly fact.


Interesting article, could be unrelated but you never know. A man close to some CV research breakthrough shot in the head, presumed killer then went to his car and shot himself in the head. I'd say its a little out of the ordinary snice both are chinese and one is working on CV

Don't let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/05/06/university-of-pittsburgh-coronavirus-research-murder-suicide/

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According to police, the two victims knew each other. Investigators say they believe the male found in his car shot and killed the man in the Elm Court home before coming back to his car and taking his own life.

Ross Township Police released their findings on Wednesday, saying they believe the apparent murder-suicide was the result of a “lengthy dispute regarding an intimate partner.”


That's why suchmoon called it a conspiracy theory instead of a conspiracy law.


"Conspiracy Theory" is a term started by the CIA, to throw doubt on people who don't want to take an official story that has nothing conclusive in it to be true, so that they (the CIA) can lie to everybody, and yet keep people from seeing the truth.

The point is, everybody conspires all the time. You, me, BluePowder, and everybody else talks to others about what we think and believe, and/or the facts. These are conspiracies. Conspiracies are all around and through us all the time. Conspiracy is absolutely not a theory.

Or do you think that the government, media, doctors, and other people don't talk to each other... don't conspire... even if they don't do anything with their conspiracies. How in the world dense are you?

If Trump calls his personal secretary on the phone, if Pelosi calls her private secretary on the phone, if Trump and Pelosi talk, if any other government people talks... all of this is conspiracies!

However, you may continue to stay dense.

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May 07, 2020, 09:43:44 AM
To be honest, I have long forgotten that there is now some kind of epidemic. I don't read the news, I live my life and go about my business. I like to live in peace and harmony.

(In any case, I can not miss the important news on which my life depends).

This is not absolutely good.
Now that you don't read the news you are doing good to your mental health as you might have less depression. However, it is good to know what it is going on in society and be able to protect yourself if any virus comes to your relatives.
newbie
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May 07, 2020, 07:35:53 AM
To be honest, I have long forgotten that there is now some kind of epidemic. I don't read the news, I live my life and go about my business. I like to live in peace and harmony.

(In any case, I can not miss the important news on which my life depends).
legendary
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May 07, 2020, 04:00:38 AM
This story's circulating widely among conservative circles and hit mainstream media sources and I don't understand the outrage - https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/shelley-luther-dallas-salon-owner-jailed-trnd/index.html

i think the only outrage there should be. is that she is not poor. if starving she could sell valuables(ebay still works in lockdown). if she was starving she could show proof of $0 bank balance and foodbank deliveries. which would have helped her case.
yet.. she actually recently just received government grants.
even shelley whos a business owner could receive some funds, which she received recently
which are supposed to be used for businesses to stay closed. thus it can lead to a fraud case later too because she claimed government money she didnt deserve.. in short she cant have it both ways claim stay at home money but not stay at home

i have seen cases where shoplifter who has a large LCD screen and gold necklaces get jailtime. but another shoplifter who was using the foodbank but told only allowed 3 parcels in a season so could no longer get foodbank parcels, had no bank balance and no valuables at home. was let off.
..
however with that said. when it comes to 'constitutional' debates. the solution is very simple. instead of making it criminal(jailtime) make it civil(a large fine) that way there is no constitutional right breach
for taking someone to court for a civil issue.

which was the case. she was fined for the civil disorder(having store open).. and jailed only for contempt of court(not apologising/disregarding the judges orders)

..
but anyway if she cared about her kids the question is. who the hell was looking after the kids while she was working/in jail. i guess she didnt care much about the kids and cared more about profiting from this whole saga
legendary
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May 06, 2020, 11:23:30 PM
This story's circulating widely among conservative circles and hit mainstream media sources and I don't understand the outrage - https://www.cnn.com/2020/05/06/us/shelley-luther-dallas-salon-owner-jailed-trnd/index.html

TL;DR - Some deranged Karen disobeyed lockdown orders in Texas and prematurely re-opened her nail salon business and knowingly broke the law. When put in front of the judge, this lady directly said to the judge that she would continue to operate her business despite the lock down orders and therefore she was put in jail.

The argument the lady makes to the judge during her hearing as to why she should be able to operate her business and not wait a few more days until she can legally re-open is that the lady needs to "feed her kids" and that her employees apparently need to feed their kids.

I have not seen such utter bullshit in my entire life. This lady's kids aren't starving, she's pandering to people's emotions and knows exactly what she's doing. She put on a publicity stunt, knowing it would go viral, and now the right wing circle are throwing money at her in a gofundme which has nearly half a million dollars -- all to someone who did this debacle on purpose for public attention.

This story seems to shed light onto the bigger issue of re-opening. Governors should be the one to ease restrictions, not small business owners breaking the law by opening prematurely and then putting law enforcement officers in a shitty situation including judges that are forced to comply with the law.
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May 06, 2020, 10:39:04 PM
That's why I started the post with " could be unrelated " .. but a news article isn't exactly fact.


Interesting article, could be unrelated but you never know. A man close to some CV research breakthrough shot in the head, presumed killer then went to his car and shot himself in the head. I'd say its a little out of the ordinary snice both are chinese and one is working on CV

Don't let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/05/06/university-of-pittsburgh-coronavirus-research-murder-suicide/

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According to police, the two victims knew each other. Investigators say they believe the male found in his car shot and killed the man in the Elm Court home before coming back to his car and taking his own life.

Ross Township Police released their findings on Wednesday, saying they believe the apparent murder-suicide was the result of a “lengthy dispute regarding an intimate partner.”


That's why suchmoon called it a conspiracy theory instead of a conspiracy law.
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May 06, 2020, 10:27:38 PM
That's why I started the post with " could be unrelated " .. but a news article isn't exactly fact.


Interesting article, could be unrelated but you never know. A man close to some CV research breakthrough shot in the head, presumed killer then went to his car and shot himself in the head. I'd say its a little out of the ordinary snice both are chinese and one is working on CV

Don't let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/05/06/university-of-pittsburgh-coronavirus-research-murder-suicide/

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According to police, the two victims knew each other. Investigators say they believe the male found in his car shot and killed the man in the Elm Court home before coming back to his car and taking his own life.

Ross Township Police released their findings on Wednesday, saying they believe the apparent murder-suicide was the result of a “lengthy dispute regarding an intimate partner.”

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May 06, 2020, 09:35:50 PM
Interesting article, could be unrelated but you never know. A man close to some CV research breakthrough shot in the head, presumed killer then went to his car and shot himself in the head. I'd say its a little out of the ordinary snice both are chinese and one is working on CV

Don't let facts get in the way of your conspiracy theories.

https://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2020/05/06/university-of-pittsburgh-coronavirus-research-murder-suicide/

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According to police, the two victims knew each other. Investigators say they believe the male found in his car shot and killed the man in the Elm Court home before coming back to his car and taking his own life.

Ross Township Police released their findings on Wednesday, saying they believe the apparent murder-suicide was the result of a “lengthy dispute regarding an intimate partner.”
legendary
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May 06, 2020, 09:08:04 PM
Governor Whitmer
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Isn't Happy With Her Lockdown Backfiring



Governor Whitmer [das Fuher] Isn't Happy With Her Lockdown Backfiring

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cElOPXmRtx0



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May 06, 2020, 08:28:50 PM
With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

This did not happen.

Do you understand?

So you are arguing this CDC page is lying?

"It  is  important  to  remember  that  death  certificate  reporting  may  not  meet  mandatory  reporting  requirements  for  reportable  diseases;  contact  the  local  health  department regarding regulations specific to the jurisdiction.In  cases  where  a  definite  diagnosis  of  COVID–19  cannot  be  made,  but  it  is  suspected  or  likely  (e.g.,  the  circumstances  are  compelling  within  a  reasonable  degree  of  certainty),  it  is  acceptable  to  report  COVID–19  on  a  death  certificate  as  “probable” or “presumed.”"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm

Those aren't newly revised death rates.

You need to read the words.  The provisional death count of 44k refers to the certified deaths.  It takes 1-2 weeks to certify a death, which means the number we're seeing today is lagging 1-2 weeks..

Do you understand the difference between provisional death rates, which are lagging 1-2 weeks behind and the reported deaths?

It is important to note that it can take several weeks for death records to be submitted to National Center for Health Statistics (NCHS), processed, coded, and tabulated. Therefore, the data shown on this page may be incomplete, and will likely not include all deaths that occurred during a given time period, especially for the more recent time periods. Death counts for earlier weeks are continually revised and may increase or decrease as new and updated death certificate data are received from the states by NCHS. COVID-19 death counts shown here may differ from other published sources, as data currently are lagged by an average of 1–2 weeks.

You shouldn't put so much faith in the media.  Do your own research.
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May 06, 2020, 08:15:52 PM
With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

This did not happen.

Do you understand?

So you are arguing this CDC page is lying?

"It  is  important  to  remember  that  death  certificate  reporting  may  not  meet  mandatory  reporting  requirements  for  reportable  diseases;  contact  the  local  health  department regarding regulations specific to the jurisdiction.In  cases  where  a  definite  diagnosis  of  COVID–19  cannot  be  made,  but  it  is  suspected  or  likely  (e.g.,  the  circumstances  are  compelling  within  a  reasonable  degree  of  certainty),  it  is  acceptable  to  report  COVID–19  on  a  death  certificate  as  “probable” or “presumed.”"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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May 06, 2020, 04:13:49 PM
With the newly revised CDC death rates, the percentages are even lower than that in the US.

This did not happen.

Do you understand?
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May 06, 2020, 03:31:47 PM
Interesting article, could be unrelated but you never know. A man close to some CV research breakthrough shot in the head, presumed killer then went to his car and shot himself in the head. I'd say its a little out of the ordinary snice both are chinese and one is working on CV

Medical Researcher on “Verge of Making Very Significant” Coronavirus Breakthrough Shot to Death
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/05/medical-researcher-verge-making-significant-coronavirus-breakthrough-shot-death/


These stats are still inflated no matter how you cut it, because they include "with COVID" deaths as dictated by CDC reporting standards.

125% of expected deaths roughly matches the 13k reported COVID-19 deaths for the week of 4/11 so no, it's very unlikely to be inflated by any significant amount. More recent weeks are incomplete but trending the same way.
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May 06, 2020, 03:23:32 PM
These stats are still inflated no matter how you cut it, because they include "with COVID" deaths as dictated by CDC reporting standards.

125% of expected deaths roughly matches the 13k reported COVID-19 deaths for the week of 4/11 so no, it's very unlikely to be inflated by any significant amount. More recent weeks are incomplete but trending the same way.
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May 06, 2020, 03:06:07 PM

Did you even read it? Data for the week ending 5/2 and lagging by 1-2 weeks. Other sources, like the Johns Hopkins map, had 44k deaths around April 23 so it all adds up. 10 days from now CDC will show 60k+ like currently shown by real-time (or close to it) sources.

These stats are still inflated no matter how you cut it, because they include "with COVID" deaths as dictated by CDC reporting standards.


"It  is  important  to  remember  that  death  certificate  reporting  may  not  meet  mandatory  reporting  requirements  for  reportable  diseases;  contact  the  local  health  department regarding regulations specific to the jurisdiction.In  cases  where  a  definite  diagnosis  of  COVID–19  cannot  be  made,  but  it  is  suspected  or  likely  (e.g.,  the  circumstances  are  compelling  within  a  reasonable  degree  of  certainty),  it  is  acceptable  to  report  COVID–19  on  a  death  certificate  as  “probable” or “presumed.”"

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid19/index.htm
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