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legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
May 08, 2020, 04:45:29 PM
^^^ Three posts up.

idiot uses the word guess
reality uses witnessed symptoms, patients description of their symptoms. xrays, ct scans blood samples, mucus samples urine and fecal samples

but an idiot will be ignorant of actual tests and evidence and just think doctors are in the 1820's 'guess' era
idiot

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separetly to note
using hydrochloroquine does not destroy the virus. it just dampens the immune system
this is shown in the blood results of patients on these trial having the IL-6 levels drop when the meds are taken (its a sign of how much pro-imflamatory response is occuring). but rises again when meds discontinued

and if taken off the meds. if the meds destroyed the virus then there is no immune response increase needed.
yet the immune response ramps up again because the virus is still active and doing damage

the idiots like badecker and techshare are people advertising chemicals that hinder the natural immune response
they pretend to be all herbal natural herd immunity guys.. but then are over the top advertising and advocating chemicals that disrupt natural immune response

idiots

My bad! Not guesses. They absolutely know they were lying. Embarrassed As does franky1. Just tryin' to be a good ole boy and give them the benefit of the doubt.

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legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
May 08, 2020, 04:45:10 PM
legendary
Activity: 4270
Merit: 4534
May 08, 2020, 04:36:31 PM
idiot uses the word guess
reality uses witnessed symptoms, patients description of their symptoms. xrays, ct scans blood samples, mucus samples urine and fecal samples

but an idiot will be ignorant of actual tests and evidence and just think doctors are in the 1820's 'guess' era
idiot

...
separetly to note
using hydrochloroquine does not destroy the virus. it just dampens the immune system
this is shown in the blood results of patients on these trial having the IL-6 levels drop when the meds are taken (its a sign of how much pro-imflamatory response is occuring). but rises again when meds discontinued

and if taken off the meds. if the meds destroyed the virus then there is no immune response increase needed.
yet the immune response ramps up again because the virus is still active and doing damage

the idiots like badecker and techshare are people advertising chemicals that hinder the natural immune response
they pretend to be all herbal natural herd immunity guys.. but then are over the top advertising and advocating chemicals that disrupt natural immune response

idiots
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
May 08, 2020, 04:22:58 PM
My question still is, if you haven't done the count yourself, and if you don't absolutely know that it was Covid from testing it yourself, how do you that anybody else knew? The counts might be from anything, or compile from other counts that are made-up!

yet badecker always forgets to realise is that the tally is actually a count from many hospitals in many countries with many ways to check the sources independantly. heck even the CDC and public health and hospitals themselves check the numbers and tally them against patient data

for instance
the hospital at the end of each day send a report to public health
and weeks later once CDC get patient records containing diagnoses, scans, test results and discharge forms and death certificates. they then form their own separate results which. if you check and compare. the tallies match for the results where they have had adequate time to check

idiots like badecker try the 'one bad hospital' falsifying data.. but when actually having all hospitals with all their secondary checks done. debunks badeckers theory


You are so silly.

A little hospital guess here. A little hospital guess there. Was it Covid, or SARS, or the flu, or pneumonia, or one of a thousand other similar diseases, including pre-existing conditions.

A little hospital guess here. A little hospital guess there. Was it based on true diagnosis? Or was it based on getting more money for diagnosing Covid?

A little hospital guess here. A little hospital guess there. Was it based on knowing that it was Covid? Or was it based on orders to call it Covid no matter what it was?

Keep on dreaming. We are finding out that the whole medical is a big dream.

Science fiction movies are looking more realistic everyday. Now we are finding that medical advertising is science fiction advertising.

A little hospital guess here. A little hospital guess there. Keep on dreaming franky1. You aren't Fauci, himself, are you? Cheesy

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legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
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May 08, 2020, 04:13:56 PM
"Observational Study of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19"

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410
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In this observational study involving patients with Covid-19 who had been admitted to the hospital, hydroxychloroquine administration was not associated with either a greatly lowered or an increased risk of the composite end point of intubation or death.

 Funny, it seems they left out a very important part of the treatment. Zinc. hydroxychloroquine is supposed to be administered with zinc to be effective, also usually with a z-pak. Weird they didn't once mention zinc in your linked paper. Of course creating studies to get a desired outcome is not new, the field is rife with fraud. This has been known about hydroxychloroquine for a very long time when treating other coronaviruses....


"Chloroquine Is a Zinc Ionophore"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/266380650_Chloroquine_Is_a_Zinc_Ionophore



"Zn Inhibits Coronavirus and Arterivirus RNA Polymerase Activity In Vitro and Zinc Ionophores Block the Replication of These Viruses in Cell Culture"

https://www.researchgate.net/publication/47794995_Zn_Inhibits_Coronavirus_and_Arterivirus_RNA_Polymerase_Activity_In_Vitro_and_Zinc_Ionophores_Block_the_Replication_of_These_Viruses_in_Cell_Culture





"Study: Fraud growing in scientific research papers"

https://news.yahoo.com/study-fraud-growing-scientific-research-papers-190641079.html



"Are Your Medications Safe?The FDA buries evidence of fraud in medical trials."

https://slate.com/technology/2015/02/fda-inspections-fraud-fabrication-and-scientific-misconduct-are-hidden-from-the-public-and-doctors.html



"Lies, Damned Lies, and Medical ScienceMuch of what medical researchers conclude in their studies is misleading, exaggerated, or flat-out wrong."

https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2010/11/lies-damned-lies-and-medical-science/308269/



"Why Most Published Research Findings Are False"

https://journals.plos.org/plosmedicine/article?id=10.1371/journal.pmed.0020124


Gotta keep those fat research grants coming in am I right? What the boss wants the boss gets.
legendary
Activity: 4270
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May 08, 2020, 02:59:53 PM
My question still is, if you haven't done the count yourself, and if you don't absolutely know that it was Covid from testing it yourself, how do you that anybody else knew? The counts might be from anything, or compile from other counts that are made-up!

yet badecker always forgets to realise is that the tally is actually a count from many hospitals in many countries with many ways to check the sources independantly. heck even the CDC and public health and hospitals themselves check the numbers and tally them against patient data

for instance
the hospital at the end of each day send a report to public health
and weeks later once CDC get patient records containing diagnoses, scans, test results and discharge forms and death certificates. they then form their own separate results which. if you check and compare. the tallies match for the results where they have had adequate time to check

idiots like badecker try the 'one bad hospital' falsifying data.. but when actually having all hospitals with all their secondary checks done. debunks badeckers theory
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
May 08, 2020, 10:40:54 AM
"Observational Study of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19"

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410
Quote
In this observational study involving patients with Covid-19 who had been admitted to the hospital, hydroxychloroquine administration was not associated with either a greatly lowered or an increased risk of the composite end point of intubation or death.

but now idiots will scream that it has to be combination therapy of HCQ and some other chemical
like HCQ+zinc
then when that comes up after months of wasted time. the idiots will say HCQ+citric acid.. then HCQ+bleach then many other stupid things. just wasting time and lives.

many patients on these trials actually have hope these trial treatments will help them. so when idiots plead to their president to authorise use of foolish stuff. it actually causes more harm than help.

patients on these stupid trials are not allowed to given other treatments because it would mess up the study.
so when silly idiots demand silly trials 'for science' they dont think/care about the patients.. the silly idiots only sometimes think 'oh well atleast we know' but most idiots just want to push the next waste of time treatment
simply because they seen something on youtube and decided they needed to tell their president about it

Squawk, squawk, squawk!

Buy hydroxychloroquine.
Hydroxychloroquine
Generic Plaquenil
Hydroxycholoquine (Plaquenil) is an expensive drug used to treat rheumatoid arthritis and systemic lupus erythematosus. It is also used to treat malaria. It is more popular than comparable drugs. It is available in generic and brand versions. Generic hydroxycholoquine is covered by most Medicare and insurance plans, but some pharmacy coupons or cash prices may be lower. The lowest GoodRx price for the most common version of hydroxychloroquine is around $20.41, 88% off the average retail price of $176.91.


Generic Hydroxychloroquine is used to treat or prevent malaria, a disease caused by parasites that enter the body through the bite of a mosquito. Malaria is common in areas such as Africa, South America, and Southern Asia. Generic Hydroxychloroquine is also used to treat symptoms of rheumatoid arthritis and discoid or systemic lupus erythematosus. In 2020, after clinical trials, hydroxychloroquine (the main active ingredient) was found to be more potent than chloroquine to inhibit SARS-CoV-2 (COVID-19 disease) in vitro.


You can get zinc almost anywhere.


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legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
May 08, 2020, 10:34:26 AM



"Leading German Virologist: ‘COVID-19 Less Deadly Than We Thought’"

https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/05/05/leading-german-virologist-covid-19-is-less-deadly-than-we-thought/

To date, 269,567 (17%) of total death vs 1,284,741 (83%)  of total recovered. Roughly every fifth is in the coffin. Would be interesting  to learn  what could be deadly for that "leading virologist"?


My question still is, if you haven't done the count yourself, and if you don't absolutely know that it was Covid from testing it yourself, how do you that anybody else knew? The counts might be from anything, or compile from other counts that are made-up!

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legendary
Activity: 4270
Merit: 4534
May 08, 2020, 06:30:44 AM
"Observational Study of Hydroxychloroquine in Hospitalized Patients with Covid-19"

https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056/NEJMoa2012410
Quote
In this observational study involving patients with Covid-19 who had been admitted to the hospital, hydroxychloroquine administration was not associated with either a greatly lowered or an increased risk of the composite end point of intubation or death.

but now idiots will scream that it has to be combination therapy of HCQ and some other chemical
like HCQ+zinc
then when that comes up after months of wasted time. the idiots will say HCQ+citric acid.. then HCQ+bleach then many other stupid things. just wasting time and lives.

many patients on these trials actually have hope these trial treatments will help them. so when idiots plead to their president to authorise use of foolish stuff. it actually causes more harm than help.

patients on these stupid trials are not allowed to given other treatments because it would mess up the study.
so when silly idiots demand silly trials 'for science' they dont think/care about the patients.. the silly idiots only sometimes think 'oh well atleast we know' but most idiots just want to push the next waste of time treatment
simply because they seen something on youtube and decided they needed to tell their president about it



one thing that people keep asking is what one main non scientific jargon thing makes covid19 different to previous sars/flus.

well to simplify it
both because its new strain and because the formation of it differs from previous flu viruses. the body doesnt initially recognise it as a threat. so when entering your nose. your nose does not create mucus to excrete it. in your mouth it doesnt recognise it to create saliva. in your throat it doesnt create sputum to excrete it out.

by the time people start feeling bad its already made its way in the lungs due to no defense at the entrances. and is already damaging cells and replicating.


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legendary
Activity: 3318
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May 08, 2020, 04:48:30 AM
"Professor: Economic Impact of Lockdown Will Cause More Deaths than Coronavirus"

https://summit.news/2020/05/07/professor-economic-impact-of-lockdown-will-cause-more-deaths-than-coronavirus/



"Leading German Virologist: ‘COVID-19 Less Deadly Than We Thought’"

https://21stcenturywire.com/2020/05/05/leading-german-virologist-covid-19-is-less-deadly-than-we-thought/
legendary
Activity: 4270
Merit: 4534
May 08, 2020, 04:16:37 AM
For unknown reason no deaths in San Marino since April 26

for obvious reasons.
when you have less than 10 people getting it a day. and the death rate is under 10% simple maths tell you under 1 (zero) die a day
sr. member
Activity: 1190
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Pro financial, medical liberty
May 08, 2020, 01:58:54 AM
Virus rest on Sundays
https://youtu.be/cmIF0vZTZaA


Disaster zone updates, hope everone manages to get out to savety.


For unknown reason no deaths in San Marino since April 26
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
May 07, 2020, 09:48:02 PM
Sacked, yes. Debunked, no. No notes? Didn't you even see that they stole her notes? You continue to be our density.

?her notes?..no
HIV.. no
the study she pretended to own. was actually done by a dr frank ruscetti.
the study was CFS not HIV
the notes are actual property of the institute.
its why she was taken to court and made to hand them over

thus no theft.
you might learn this stuff if you do research instead of just watching yourtube

Now you're simply playing troll.

She comes right out and says that she wouldn't turn over Ruscetti's study to Dr. Fauci. Dr. Ruscetti did it himself after being threatened.

When she talks about her studies being stolen, she is talking about HER studies, not Ruscetti's.

All you are trying to do is confuse the issue, as usual. Why are you so against the truth that you have to lie about things that are in plain evidence sight?

But really. It's okay. As folks find out about your lies, they realize that you are lying about Covid, as well. Your credit goes down the tubes. And you actually support the conspiracy angle thereby. So, thanks for the help in getting the truth out...

Covid and the lockdown are a big, unproven hoax.

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legendary
Activity: 4270
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May 07, 2020, 09:23:42 PM
Sacked, yes. Debunked, no. No notes? Didn't you even see that they stole her notes? You continue to be our density.

?her notes?..no
HIV.. no
the study she pretended to own. was actually done by a dr frank ruscetti.
the study was CFS not HIV
the notes are actual property of the institute.
its why she was taken to court and made to hand them over

thus no theft.
you might learn this stuff if you do research instead of just watching yourtube
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
May 07, 2020, 08:57:48 PM
So your premise is this doctor was putting on a fraud since the 80's in order to bring herself fame now and plant misinformation? Who do you claim is the conspiracy theorist here?

Nothing has been debunked, you didn't even watch the interview

your problem is you ONLY watched the video. you didnt research further
firstly the video claims her work could have saved millions of HIV lives.
but she was working on chronic fatique syndrom.. not HIV

also the CFS study wasnt actually hers but another doctor that went on vacation before doing a writeup about it(well that part is actually in the video you love and actually double proves it was about CFS if you do your research)

but when you actually do research you realise she was begging for new research grants but refusing to hand over notes about current research. using the lame excuse 'its not my study'
she kicked up a storm about how she was being denied money because she was a woman and so was her co-author. blah blah blah. and many other accusatory excuses.. (but reality is they dont just hand out money for no reason, especially if it isnt her study and no notes show progress)

she jsut wanted to get paid for doing no work like previous years grants paid out to her

it was found that the CFS study was actually not showing results. but 2 scans of the same sample yet she claims that its proof she recreated it in different specimen.

she got debunked and sacked
she stole notes of other studies from the institute which was the institutes property nd refused to give them back

now if you tried to research beyond the video. you would see all this stuff

Sacked, yes. Debunked, no. No notes? Didn't you even see that they stole her notes? You continue to be our density.

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legendary
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May 07, 2020, 06:28:42 PM
So your premise is this doctor was putting on a fraud since the 80's in order to bring herself fame now and plant misinformation? Who do you claim is the conspiracy theorist here?

Nothing has been debunked, you didn't even watch the interview

your problem is you ONLY watched the video. you didnt research further
firstly the video claims her work could have saved millions of HIV lives.
but she was working on chronic fatique syndrom.. not HIV

also the CFS study wasnt actually hers but another doctor that went on vacation before doing a writeup about it(well that part is actually in the video you love and actually double proves it was about CFS if you do your research)

but when you actually do research you realise she was begging for new research grants but refusing to hand over notes about current research. using the lame excuse 'its not my study'
she kicked up a storm about how she was being denied money because she was a woman and so was her co-author. blah blah blah. and many other accusatory excuses.. (but reality is they dont just hand out money for no reason, especially if it isnt her study and no notes show progress)

she jsut wanted to get paid for doing no work like previous years grants paid out to her

it was found that the CFS study was actually not showing results. but 2 scans of the same sample yet she claims that its proof she recreated it in different specimen.

she got debunked and sacked
she stole notes of other studies from the institute which was the institutes property nd refused to give them back

now if you tried to research beyond the video. you would see all this stuff
legendary
Activity: 3318
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May 07, 2020, 06:19:28 PM
Youtube just scrubbed the Valuetainment interview with Dr. Mikovitz I linked previously today. I wonder what they are so concerned about hiding?
its been debunked
the only purpose it a paid old retired doctor is using her old title to fame up fake conspiracies by saying they are real just to cause misinformation
lot of people are not happy with lockdown and think if they can cause one of the government advisers to look bad he will release the lockdown.

it dont work like that so wasting time trying

So your premise is this doctor was putting on a fraud since the 80's in order to bring herself fame now and plant misinformation? Who do you claim is the conspiracy theorist here?

Nothing has been debunked, you didn't even watch the interview so stop pretending to be authoritative about something you know absolutely nothing about. People who need to censor opposing viewpoints have no argument to stand on, that is why they require their opposition to be silenced. If you love censorship so much, tickets to China are really cheap right now. You will love it there, all speech is vetted and censored.

Speaking of conspiracy, lets take a quick look at the CEO of Youtube, Susan Wojcicki's sisters:

"Anne, 45, is the chief executive of Silicon Valley-based 23andMe, which is valued as high as $2.5bn (£2bn), while Susan Wojcicki, 50, is the chief executive of YouTube.

Third sister Janet Wojcicki, 48, is an associate professor of epidemiology at the University of California, San Francisco, where she helps lead efforts to tackle everything from obesity to HIV."

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-46361764

I am sure Susan has no vested interest in this at all right? No, the one with vested interest is an AIDs scientist from the 80's of course.
legendary
Activity: 4270
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May 07, 2020, 06:09:00 PM
Youtube just scrubbed the Valuetainment interview with Dr. Mikovitz I linked previously today. I wonder what they are so concerned about hiding?
its been debunked
the only purpose it a paid old retired doctor is using her old title to fame up fake conspiracies by saying they are real just to cause misinformation
lot of people are not happy with lockdown and think if they can cause one of the government advisers to look bad he will release the lockdown.

it dont work like that so wasting time trying



Tanzania: goat, paw paw, jackfruit test positive for coronavirus

tansania lab technician didnt use disposable pipette tips and contaminated the chemicals.
basically they were doing tests on the cheap. he got fired. the chemicals disposed of and fresh bath delivered.

lessons learned the hard way in unprepared countries that didnt budget or plan things
meanwhile in hundreds of other countries they actually done genome studies to learn about the virus not just enzyme testing. and when they done enzyme testing. they actually regularly check the chemical mix and always change the pipette tips per sample.. because thats good science

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jr. member
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May 07, 2020, 06:07:41 PM
Tanzania: goat, paw paw, jackfruit test positive for coronavirus

https://www.africanews.com/2020/05/06/tanzania-how-can-goat-papaya-pawpaw-test-positive-to-corona-morning-call//

Still think its real ? told you guys this was a multi faceted scam.. non insolated fake virus. death certiificate fraud, fake testing.


Youtube just scrubbed the Valuetainment interview with Dr. Mikovitz I linked previously today. I wonder what they are so concerned about hiding?

"Former AIDS Scientist Exposes Dr. Fauci’s Medical Corruption"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnBldI7KPY


Watch this other related interview before it is censored too:

"Dr Buttar Accuses Fauci, Gates & The Media For Using COVID-19 To Drive Hidden Agenda"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbf9wccdxE

legendary
Activity: 3318
Merit: 2008
First Exclusion Ever
May 07, 2020, 06:02:30 PM
Youtube just scrubbed the Valuetainment interview with Dr. Mikovitz I linked previously today. I wonder what they are so concerned about hiding?

"Former AIDS Scientist Exposes Dr. Fauci’s Medical Corruption"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnBldI7KPY


Watch this other related interview before it is censored too:

"Dr Buttar Accuses Fauci, Gates & The Media For Using COVID-19 To Drive Hidden Agenda"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbf9wccdxE
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