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legendary
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May 05, 2020, 05:34:43 AM
lets just clarify things for all the "from a lab" idiots

the reason they traced it from bats is not by testing bats in december/january. and comparing RNA
but the lab studies loads of viruses over many years and collects the rna sequences and stores the DATA
emphasis DATA

the data of human infected covid patients samples. of covid. was scanned into a computer and it was set to compare it to other human virals.
it revealed no other human virals of exact match. hense it was declared 'novel'(new)
however they then compared it to similar viruses and see its in the same family as corona viruses but again for emphasis not the same as sars or mers.
basically meaning its definitely not tuberculosis or ebola as its nothing like them.
so they knew it was corona virus discovered 2019

next they compared it to all the corona based viruses found in all samples previously collected from random wild animals over the years. and spotted bats tested, from a cave many miles east of wuhan had it way before humans

the virus did not 'come from a lab' it came from bats and was just sampled in a lab
the studies reveal that the bat/human comparisons shown such close comparison to show its from the same strain they see there was some NATURAL mutation which is why they feel that it was a bat->pangolin->human cross contamination

usually if it was man made/edited certain pattern of mutation would reveal this.
there is no sign of man made editing
(EG man made editing would be to mix different viruses together. viruses known to mix well using lab techniques.. this has not been the case)
legendary
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May 05, 2020, 05:01:45 AM
[Whatabout... whatabout...whatabout...]

This is a non sequitur. The premise is China used this as a biological weapon regardless of the virus origins. Furthermore, this targeted the rest of the globe, not just the USA. You have fun playing with your whataboutisms though.

Your premise is a post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Thanks for the excessively self fellating pedantic way of saying "correlation does not equal causation". This is false by the way. Evidence of China actively covering up the scope of the outbreak to put themselves in a better financial position by weakening the ability of the rest of the world to respond is documented, not just assumed.



"DHS report: China hid virus’ severity to hoard supplies"

https://apnews.com/bf685dcf52125be54e030834ab7062a8




"Wuhan Institute of Virology (China) Sought to Patent Gilead’s Remdesivir"

"On January 21, it was reported that China’s Wuhan Institute of Virology of the Chinese Academy of Sciences filed a patent for commercial use of remdesivir in China."

https://www.trialsitenews.com/wuhan-institute-of-virology-china-sought-to-patent-gileads-remdesivir/



"Timeline of the COVID-19 pandemic in January 2020"

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timeline_of_the_COVID-19_pandemic_in_January_2020




"Why Are the Chinese Made IR Thermometers So Cold?"

https://apelbaum.wordpress.com/2020/05/04/why-are-the-chinese-made-ir-thermometers-so-cold/




"Chinese Company that Makes Forehead Thermometers ‘Jokes’ About Making Faulty Product for Sale in US in Order to Spread Disease"

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2020/03/chinese-company-that-makes-forehead-thermometers-jokes-about-making-faulty-product-for-sale-in-us-in-order-to-spread-disease/



"$20 trillion lawsuit against China! US group says coronavirus is bioweapon"

https://www.businesstoday.in/current/world/usd-20-trillion-lawsuit-against-china-us-group-says-coronavirus-bioweapon/story/399071.html







legendary
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May 05, 2020, 04:47:51 AM
Hey TECSHARE, If you don't find a way to kick your conspiracy/pseudo-science blog addiction, you're going to end up like BADecker.

 Undecided
legendary
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May 05, 2020, 04:32:47 AM
Hey, TECSHARE. Don't you just love these jokers? You can show them all day long the proof of this or that, and they turn right around and make it seem like nothing.

I just watched the video in the signature area in Tash's post. Just like the doctors who were unwilling to try something different, even in a what-do-you-have-to-lose situation.

They are a pathetic bunch, don't you think?

I'm gonna go take some vitamin C right now.

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May 05, 2020, 04:16:56 AM
[Whatabout... whatabout...whatabout...]

This is a non sequitur. The premise is China used this as a biological weapon regardless of the virus origins. Furthermore, this targeted the rest of the globe, not just the USA. You have fun playing with your whataboutisms though.

Your premise is a post hoc ergo propter hoc.
sr. member
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May 05, 2020, 04:01:48 AM
Some update on the fails, hope everyone manages to take care of the situation.
If you rely on others you are lost. Bill Gates of hell and Fauci senting millions to China is for personal gains at expense of average human.
legendary
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May 05, 2020, 03:59:45 AM
[Whatabout... whatabout...whatabout...]

This is a non sequitur. The premise is China used this as a biological weapon regardless of the virus origins. Furthermore, this targeted the rest of the globe, not just the USA. You have fun playing with your whataboutisms though.
legendary
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May 05, 2020, 03:51:34 AM
You're right, my bad.  'From the lab' doesn't necessarily mean man made.  He's already planted the seed that 'maybe china did it on purpose', so I feel like that's probably where this is going - but we aren't there yet.

They have already been proven to have hidden the scope of the outbreak while they simultaneously were buying up all the world's PPE so they could sell it back to them later. Accidental leak or not, natural or man made, it was used as a biological weapon against the rest of the world.

We can agree they definitely went out of their way to down play it early on (December/Early Jan).  But I think the most likely reason is the same reason the United States downplayed it in February - if you make a big deal about how bad it mightbe the economy would takes an instant hit guaranteed.  Act like it's no big deal and you might get lucky and be right.

Notice the dates of these 3 tweets:






What's more likely, China duped the America into thinking the virus was no big deal while we watched them lock down a city bigger than NYC and frantically build hospitals as fast as they could?  Or America did the same thing China did, play down the virus to avoid short term economic damage in hopes it would just 'go away...like a miracle'
legendary
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May 05, 2020, 03:14:01 AM
You're right, my bad.  'From the lab' doesn't necessarily mean man made.  He's already planted the seed that 'maybe china did it on purpose', so I feel like that's probably where this is going - but we aren't there yet.

They have already been proven to have hidden the scope of the outbreak while they simultaneously were buying up all the world's PPE so they could sell it back to them later. Accidental leak or not, natural or man made, it was used as a biological weapon against the rest of the world.
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May 05, 2020, 02:47:24 AM
You're right, my bad.  'From the lab' doesn't necessarily mean man made.  He's already planted the seed that 'maybe china did it on purpose', so I feel like that's probably where this is going - but we aren't there yet.
legendary
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May 05, 2020, 02:35:16 AM
Man, I feel like we may have heard the last of Fauci.  The conspiracy theories started popping up a recently about him being a fraud (thanks for those TECSHARE) and he just publicly **gasp** sided with the science community over Trump in in the 'Covid-19 was man made' "debate".  5 eyes and a bunch of world leaders also think Trump is retarded and/or full of shit.


"Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab"
In an exclusive interview, the face of America’s COVID-19 response cautions against the rush for states to reopen, and offers his tips for handling the pandemic's information deluge.
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Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday with National Geographic.

“If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species”
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/



"Five Eyes network contradicts theory Covid-19 leaked from lab"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/five-eyes-network-contradicts-theory-covid-19-leaked-from-lab



"Key U.S. Allies Skeptical of Trump’s Coronavirus Lab Leak Claims"

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-lab-leak-trump-five-eyes/



As usual, you are optimally packed full of shit. Trump, nor anyone within the administration as far as I am aware has claimed the virus was man made. They did say it came from the lab in Wuhan, which doesn't exclude accidental or intentional leaks of a naturally evolved virus. Of course being the perpetual shit slinger you are, you conflate the two concepts to try to act like you have an argument in desperation as the facts start lining up against you, as usual. Fauci has a long history of conflicts of interest and fraud, but you know better and any sources I present are "conspiracy sites" thus can be summarily be dismissed by you without any review whatsoever. Your confirmation bias however does not magically make facts disappear.






"FBI Investigation Targeted Dr. Fauci but Comey Pulled the Plug, says Whistle-blower"

https://www.fort-russ.com/2020/05/fbi-investigation-targeted-dr-fauci-but-comey-pulled-the-plug-says-whistle-blower/



"Dr Buttar Accuses Fauci, Gates & The Media For Using COVID-19 To Drive Hidden Agenda"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnbf9wccdxE



"Former AIDS Scientist Exposes Dr. Fauci’s Medical Corruption"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kgnBldI7KPY



"New Coronavirus Emerges From Bats in China, Devastates Young Swine Identified in Same Region, from Same Bats, as SARS Coronavirus"

April 4, 2018

https://www.niaid.nih.gov/news-events/new-coronavirus-emerges-bats-china-devastates-young-swine




"Dr. Fauci Backed Controversial Wuhan Lab with Millions of U.S. Dollars for Risky Coronavirus Research"

https://www.newsweek.com/dr-fauci-backed-controversial-wuhan-lab-millions-us-dollars-risky-coronavirus-research-1500741



"The Truth About Fauci—Featuring Dr. Judy Mikovits"

"Video Transcript

The Truth About Fauci, featuring Judy Mikovits, Joint PhD in Biochemistry and Molecular Biology, George Washington University; Postdoctoral Scholar in Molecular Virology National Cancer Institute; Research Director of Whittemore Peterson Institute for Neuro-Immune Disease and target of Anthony Fauci—Twice.

In Washington DC Fauci’s tactics are an open secret. Intimidation. Bullying. And reckless disregard for the health and safety of the American people.

Dr. Judy Mikovits was one of the most skilled scientists of her generation. She had a 20-year collaboration with Frank Ruscetti, a pioneer in the field of human retro virology.
The first Fauci episode:

Mikovits: I took a job at the National Cancer Institute. I was under the direction of Frank Ruscetti. I isolated HIV from blood and saliva confirming Dr. Luc Montagnier’s earlier isolation and description of HIV as a possible causative agent of AIDS. I refused to do that because it’s unethical.

And then, Anthony Fauci intervened.


Mikovits: When Frank Ruscetti was out of town, I received a call from Dr. Fauci and he demanded that I give him our manuscript on the isolation and confirmation of HIV, while it was still in press. I refused to do that because it’s unethical. These manuscripts are confidential and only authors can give him a copy.

Dr. Mikovits’ standards of ethics and moral courage are unparalleled.

Mikovits: He threatened to fire me for insubordination but still I refused. It’s unethical.

Mikovits: When Frank Ruscetti returned a few weeks later, he gave the manuscript to Dr. Fauci, and Dr. Fauci purposely delayed the publication of our manuscript in order that his crony, Dr. Robert Gallo, could copy our work and submit a competing manuscript and get it into press before ours.

On May 4, 1984, Dr. Robert Gallo famously published a series of papers demonstrating that a retrovirus he’d isolated was the cause of AIDS.

Appropriating her work wasn’t the worst of it. This delayed the development of testing and spread the HIV epidemic through the world, killing millions.

Driven by greed and cronyism, Anthony Fauci—”America’s Doctor”—is directly responsible for the further spread of HIV throughout the world."


https://childrenshealthdefense.org/news/the-truth-about-fauci-featuring-dr-judy-mikovits/




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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 10:47:07 PM
Man, I feel like we may have heard the last of Fauci.  The conspiracy theories started popping up a recently about him being a fraud (thanks for those TECSHARE) and he just publicly **gasp** sided with the science community over Trump in in the 'Covid-19 was man made' "debate".  5 eyes and a bunch of world leaders also think Trump is retarded and/or full of shit.


"Fauci: No scientific evidence the coronavirus was made in a Chinese lab"
In an exclusive interview, the face of America’s COVID-19 response cautions against the rush for states to reopen, and offers his tips for handling the pandemic's information deluge.
Quote
Fauci, the director of the U.S. National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, shot down the discussion that has been raging among politicians and pundits, calling it “a circular argument” in a conversation Monday with National Geographic.

“If you look at the evolution of the virus in bats and what's out there now, [the scientific evidence] is very, very strongly leaning toward this could not have been artificially or deliberately manipulated … Everything about the stepwise evolution over time strongly indicates that [this virus] evolved in nature and then jumped species”
https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/2020/05/anthony-fauci-no-scientific-evidence-the-coronavirus-was-made-in-a-chinese-lab-cvd/



"Five Eyes network contradicts theory Covid-19 leaked from lab"

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/may/04/five-eyes-network-contradicts-theory-covid-19-leaked-from-lab



"Key U.S. Allies Skeptical of Trump’s Coronavirus Lab Leak Claims"

https://foreignpolicy.com/2020/05/04/coronavirus-lab-leak-trump-five-eyes/
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 07:22:33 PM
badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements


F-1, you are completely insane. Why do you think that I own or even have any "kosh/rivers postulum." I don't think anybody even knows what you are talking about when you post this kind of thing.

you are the idiot that linked videos talking about kosh postulum.. yes YOU. kosh didnt link it to the forum. YOU did
YOU said it was proof that covid doesnt exist. YOU. not kosh. YOU

i corrected YOU by explaining kosh postulum and how it actually proves its real because scientists actually passed the kosh points

i know YOU then realised your failing. and i know YOU want to backtrack and pretend YOU had no clue and YOU had no idea what it is and pretend you didnt link it.
but YOU did. and YOUR ignorance cant hide it from reality even if YOU want to hide it from yourself

and thats what makes you an idiot
tying to shift the post to blame kosh. even though kosh didnt post it and kosh isnt even alive. means the only person to blame for suggesting it disproves covid is .. YOU
because YOU said it disproves covid. and you are wrong

F-1, you are soooo fun to play with. Oh, btw, you forgot to mention any videos that I linked. I mean, were you talking about the "posh kostulum" videos?  Cheesy Do you really think that some joker named "kosh" - or was it "posh" - was going to link some videos in my post? Cheesy You are so silly.

Who in the world is this "kosh/posh" you are yammering about? Or should I ask, what? Or is it "posh/kosh?" And what does "kostulum" mean?

I know I realize my failings. That's why I kinda laugh at you. You haven't a clue about my failings. And funnier, yet, you don't seem to have a clue about yours even more.

Do you remember that Nancy Drew book, "The Clue in the Old Stagecoach?" Didn't one of the printings of it say, "... Glue in the Old Stagecoach?"


Now, regarding CV rather than me, Rivers' revision of Koch's postulates is an upgrading of Koch's. They are a good enough revision that they should be used in determining if there is a virus or not.

But what is interesting is that nobody has used them. And although some have said that they have, their reports show that they haven't done anything more than talk about them.

What this means is that nobody has come close to showing proof for Coronavirus.



Hey, F-1. Have you found anybody who has listed the steps that they took in their quest for finding THE Virus, yet? Hey? You been drinking like Spendy again?

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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 07:06:25 PM
badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements


F-1, you are completely insane. Why do you think that I own or even have any "kosh/rivers postulum." I don't think anybody even knows what you are talking about when you post this kind of thing.

you are the idiot that linked videos talking about kosh postulum.. yes YOU. kosh didnt link it to the forum. YOU did
YOU said it was proof that covid doesnt exist. YOU. not kosh. YOU

trying to shift the blame to kosh. even though kosh didnt post it and kosh isnt even alive. means the only person to blame in this forum for suggesting it disproves covid is .. YOU
because YOU said it disproves covid in this forum.
and you have been proved wrong

i corrected YOU by explaining kosh postulum and how it actually proves its real because scientists actually passed the kosh points

i know YOU then realised your failing. and i know YOU want to backtrack and pretend YOU had no clue and YOU had no idea what it is and pretend you didnt link it.
but YOU did. and YOUR ignorance cant hide it from reality even if YOU want to hide it from yourself

and thats what makes you an idiot
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 06:19:00 PM
badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements


F-1, you are completely insane. Why do you think that I own or even have any "kosh/rivers postulum." I don't think anybody even knows what you are talking about when you post this kind of thing.

When you say that somebody has fulfilled any sequencing requirements, you might as well be talking about a butcher in his butcher shop.Sequencing doesn't matter when it doesn't prove anything. So, lets see the sequencing postulates these butchers of yours used to do the sequencing that you said they did.

Come on. This should be an easy thing for you, since you are right inside the medical field where it is done, right? Prove you aren't a fake. Show a record, the postulates used, and how the of the postulates proved a specific sequencing.

We want to know how anybody knows that it absolutely was and is Covid-19. After all, anybody can say, "It's Covid-19." See how easy that was? Watch this: "It's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19, it's Covid-19." But I can't prove it, easy as it was to post it.

So show us the proof.

Cool
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 04:35:08 PM
"Robert Kennedy Jr. Destroys Big Pharma, Fauci & Pro-Vaccine Movement"

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legendary
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May 04, 2020, 02:59:39 PM
badecker your insane i already debunked your kosh/rivers postulum.
they have actually fulfilled all the science requirements

you even admitted you had no clue what kosh/rivers postulum was about.
you then said kosh rivers postulum was outdated postulum and meaningless once you realise that it actually debunks your narrative

and now your here again promoting it
idiot

they studied the virus, they got samples of the virus, they incubated it in a culture, they then injected it into animals and those animals got sick. they then tested the animals and the animals had the same viral rna as the humans who were sick. which means the virus caused it

it passed kosh/rivers postulum.
you been told this already.

also many hospitals in many countries with many patients who have the same symptoms are tested and they all had the same viral rna. double proving the cause and double proving its not an isolated case

idiot..
legendary
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May 04, 2020, 01:53:05 PM
Here is the interview Pompeo did with ABC today - https://abcnews.go.com/ThisWeek/video/secretary-state-mike-pompeo-70478299
yet he debunks himself in that video.
the reporter says that the National intelliagence agency and scientists concur that it was not man made from a lab.. and pompeo then says he agrees with their statement.

He did contradict himself but that doesn't change the fact that it originated in the Wuhan lab. It could have been a naturally occurring disease that was released to the public due to irresponsible research. Alternatively, it could also have been human modified to increase virulence which ended up escaping the lab.

The thing about the virus that came from the Wuhan lab, is that it is a virus of trickery... not a standard RNA-type virus. The proof of this lies in the fact that the lab people haven't shown any proof that they did the actual experimentation that is required to show a virus. Watch the last ten minutes of, Dr Andrew Kaufman exposing the 'Covid-19' magic trick - the sleight of hand that transformed society - https://www.bitchute.com/video/TXargSbVp7E/.

The lies are the virus. The lies are called Covid-19.

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May 04, 2020, 01:28:23 PM
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sr. member
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May 04, 2020, 08:03:24 AM
Covid and pulmonary tuberculosis
https://coronacircus.com/2020/05/03/coronacircus-revisionism-chapter-three-pulmonary-tuberculosis/

Way, way scarier than the covid dis-ease is the science denying dills running around in full sunlight with the face muzzle.
Every modern dentist, doctor surgery.... has sterilizing UV light (260 nm) which is also part of the sunbeams frequency.
Imagine if that would not work, every kind of infection, bacteria, virus, fungus... from patients before now in direct contact with open wound.
When did people become this retarded?
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